Chinese Fake Antiques And Art Fraud, How To Avoid Them, Antique Collecting Tips 中国艺术赝品
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Chinese Fakes And Art Fraud, How To Avoid Them, Antique Collecting Tips 中国艺术赝品
A look at common-sense approaches for collectors and new dealers to avoid being taken by dishonest auctioneers across the US and World.
The onslaught of Chinese fakes in all categories has become an epidemic. Including porcelain, jades, bronzes, paintings, silks, stone carvings, scholars' objects, and anything else that has value in today's art market.
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We have a long time auctioneer in our town who sold an antique Chinese Temple table for under $500.00 and the buyer whom I know personally, resold the table through a bigger international auction house and got $570,000.00 so it does happen. Even the auction house she sold it through had told her that she could expect between $10,000.00 - $20,000.00 for it so they also were woefully clueless.
I also enjoyed watching modern Chinese pottery being made and marvel at the artistic abilities still alive and well today in this world of instant gratification, beautiful art.
Thanks Peter for all you have taught me. I am learning new things from you every week and I have sold $1000's dollars of antique Chinese items since discovering your videos. I was passing up Asian pottery for years at yard sales and estate sales because I believed that it was a dead market until I discovered your site. You are the gold standard.
Fakes keep me from serious collecting. Thanks for putting this video out (along with the others).
Such wisdom. I am an amateur collector, €1-2000. I rarely buy on line as I think you have to hold a ceramic object to evaluate it. Even then for me it is a big amount of guessing! I collect for fun and because I like the look of asian porcelain. Thanks Peter for another great video. Hope your well.
Very good advice! I have a few things I'm still going to have you look at. We will be using your website. Thank you so much. I've learned alot.
Thank you so much Peter to teaching us Asian art, l saw many vase and big plates in museums pictures and videos, bottom picture very dirty and orange colors and authentic, but l do learn from experts, orange and dirty foot rims are moder, l am really confused, every body talk different.but l still believe you are the correct. Thank you so much again.
Even Doyle sells fakes. Items are misdated or in the case of the last item that I bought from them, not even Asian. Every person I showed the item to including Peter, said that the item was not right. The auction houses response... the consignors mother bought the vase from a auction house near D.C. in the '80s, so it must be right. Ha. Ha.
Thanks for the advice I saw a republic piece it was a vase and had a rotating vase inside.I was excited when I seen it online but when I looked at the vase at the auction my gut instinct was it was a replica and I spoke to a Chinese dealer and they agreed so it good to see the items close up.
You also answered the question I had on the man on You tube that claims to be an expert in Chinese porcelain .
I doubted he was a fake, but as an amateur collector I couldn’t be sure. I suppose he was just trying to hard to convince people and putting to much attention on the conspiracy against him. Now at least, I am reassured. Thank you.
Chinese ceramics are such a problem for me. I don't see and handle enough of them to get the personal experience I feel you need. That being said, I find these videos super helpful, and I appreciate you. Lookin' better, by the way, bud! Rooting for your health!
Pictures can be enough for the most part, you just have to look at 10's of thousands of them and spend years coming to grips with all the characteristics you need to be able to recognise and put in place to be close to certain that something is authentic. This does depend on the type of ware and era though, some pictures are never going to be enough, it is why I tend to stay away from things like Ming blue and white. Peter is also correct with his 10 years comment, you are looking at 10 years investment before you start to get consistent in your judgements, I am 15 years in and quite satisfied and rewarded with nearly everything I buy. It is worth it if you love it, it is a great journey but you are going to have to spend a lot of time on it though.
@@petecabrina Yup. I can agree with that. But there are certain things you can't get from that. Like the weight of certain objects from certain periods. It's amazing how much the weight of two similar items can vary when made a century apart.
@@besticanaffordantiques2565 weight as a factor is a funny concept to me because of the extent I have used the internet for pretty much all of my learning and purchasing. Weight is part of the overall feel of an item though I would consider, but nearly always I rely on visual cues, the feel and look of the glaze is a huge factor and you can generally get a sense if something is modern from that alone a lot of the time. I do wish I had more opportunity to handle a lot of objects but that has just never been available, so you just work with what is available which has worked out fine. Tends to mean I focus on certain areas though, Republic ceramics is probably my favourite and for a while was affordable and you could find gems, not so much any more.
@@petecabrina I've found a few decent pieces picking locally. Mostly famille Canton, rose Medallion. And some Oatmeal Crackle glaze stuff. My Japanese collection of ceramics and cloisonné is pretty alright, I think. Haha, not to hijack on Peter, but feel free to click my name.
Agreed. Just hard to access enough of the real thing to help make comparisons.
Thank you Peter, You're doing a great service for the novice collector, and even for more experienced collectors.
Thank you for this Great video Peter. An Important lesson to keep in mind. Also the simultanious video in split screen was Amazing to watch.
Thank you for everything you cover in your fabulous vlogs. I have been going around and around on where to take and trust regarding auctioneers.
I need some tips. Yes, it is sad that people are being taken advantage of every day, but it is even sadder when people start thinking there is a conspiracy to keep them from realizing a great profit. Thank you, good one and enjoyed seeing the modern production, nice plate with two bunnies.
It's very true. There is a popular antiques expert on CZcams that I saw who did an appraisal on an Asian item. It was a Royal Satsuma marked modern piece. They called it antique and appraised it way too high.
Best place to buy Asian art is in the UK charity shops they don’t know anything about antiques from Asia I have picked. Up some beautiful pieces there
Peter, thank you for posting this, and I love the analogy to the Power Ball lottery!!! As an appraiser of Asian decorative arts, it is amazing how many of my clients have what they thought to be "an Imperial" vase or other Chinese porcelain piece. Porcelain and Jade seem to be the worst offenders. Delivering the bad new to my clients is very difficult and I only wish they had seen your video before they purchased!
Thank you for the insight. I really appreciate it. Your knowledge is boundless!
I would like to add that I've been a dealer, auction partner and appraiser for a solid 3 decades. Many people ask me what happens if they find a "Diamond in the dirt". First I remind them it's improbable. Second, I tell them once you "make the score of the lifetime" then what's next? The real problem is finding a means of selling your prize. Just because an auction house or a dealer has a a big name, that's no guarrentee you'll have an above board honest sale. Lots of unscrupulous players out there. Third do your homework, know as much as possible about your object, the circumstance in which you acquired it and the reputation of any potential seller/buyer. Last point, the internet is flooded with fakes, so buyers beware.
Thanx! for the lesson Peter. Much appreciated!
Spot on in every respect - everything here applies to all types of Chinese antiques, not just porcelain. In China, antique collectors who get burned buying fakes write off their losses as "tuition fees".
I watched your videos for a year before I even spent a penny on an Asian antique.
I see some of the duplicitousness in American and European glassware as well, but the language and culture barriers are less difficult to overcome
Truer words never said! Personally I love buying lusterware and asian stuff marked with english wording. Dragonware is my favorite types of tea sets to collect. So much wisdom in this video. Luckily I haven't had any bad online purchases with the tea service sets I have bought. It should be fun and enjoyable to collect.
Thank you for the helpful and realistic insight on fakes!
I’m a auctioneer in Wisconsin. Most of the Chinese stuff that is real or not that I’ve found was priced very low, but only because of lack of knowledge from the sellers. Most people don’t know this but almost everywhere there is no regulations on online auctions.
The first image of your opening montage looks like a Tang dynasty burial figurine with an experimental copper red glaze. If that's what it is, then you have an extremely rare and valuable piece of Chinese porcelain in your possession, Mr. Combs.
Always informative. Here endeth the lesson.
Place a “fake” in a 🎬 film, it’s value will increase as a prop and sold later through Heritage Auctions.
Thank you for making this!!!
Also the Japanese shrine sales I used to go there every week and do not cost much I don’tknow if still the same was in 1980
Everything I do know I learned from you and your awesome videos. Thanks!!
Even experts can't know 100% if many are fake or real because copies are so good today. I'm in antique carpet business and we were at auction previews trying to figure out even if a rug was machine made and expert dealers were debating about a particular piece. Provenance is always highly suspect as experts debate where a rug was from and don't know for sure as well as dating--debatable. Follow the money--auctions hype reproductions for $$$$ and no one is any the wiser in most cases. Beauty in eye of beholder.
Word...Peter! Say it loud..say it proud!!
Lord help em..buyer b ware...or wares..😎
Even Asian art curators from the museums are not real experts nowadays. They don't really know much about how to authenticate or date Asian art works. For example, a typical Kraak vase that is currently displayed at MET is identified correctly as a Wanli piece, however the Wanli vase is mistakenly dated to Qing Dynasty. A few years ago, a regional curator, a curator, and an assistant curator from a local fine art museum came to my house, and they struggled for 30 minutes to authenticate a small Nabeshima blue and white dish. I was surprised to see that they flipped a big book about Nabeshima wares back and forth in front of me but still had no clue. Quite embarrassing
Thanks as always Peter
I will savor it at once
Maurizio Vetrugno
thanks for these posts.
Peter, appreciate the insight.
How can you detect them are fakes? Because the price is cheap?
Excellent video.
Thank you, sir.
3:09 I remember that guy--he had a Song ware collection that can rival even Qianlong emperor's lol
A part of me thinks he is doing this because he likes being rejected. I remember boys behaving like that toward women when I was still in school
Thank you so much Peter, for taking the time & effort to teach people how very sleazy the marketers can be , with the known exceptions. Luckily I had parents who showed me through their actions who to trust in the 70s. As you know, with every new collector, there are many , waiting to get his money dishonestly.
For my budget, Im interested in contemporary pieces, but so many are reproductions of things that have already been done better. It's a lot to figure out even which ones have some originality
Thanks
thank you ! Peter! you are my hero !
what if i win an item on the auction but before I paid for it realized the item is a fake or reproduction not as described , what to do in that circumstance? can i just not paying it & walk away? anyone know?
I have a few items I would like to see if it’s real antique. Who do you recommend in NYC or Delaware?
I wonder why a guy in Honkong would prefer to sell chinese antiques stuff from a Hongkong collectioneur on a Catawiki sale and not to offer it to Christies in Hongkong instead! Iwould not buy it here in Holland.(Tian Xia Treasures) Do you know this firm???
if its made in china and its beautiful buy it but dont look at it as an investment...and if its a good fake then call it a replica and enjoy an artistic and cultural legacy that fortunately is still being maintained by contemporary chinese potters.
Could someone please help me identify a painting. I can't seem to find anything about it .
I had good success for some years here in Australia with a couple of auction houses who sold mostly fakes but 10% of their items would be genuine random Chinese items of different types, nearly always the great items I found were Republic though as well since they were unfamiliar to most people. I think Peter's talk here, and often seems to be the case when he is talking about fakes is far too focused on very high end and imperial items which none of us are ever going to acquire, even though yes they are probably the most copied items. A deep dive of the faking of more common items would be interesting, what is worrying is how good it seems some more common wares are being faked, like late Ming ceramics or Republic ceramics. Sadly there is probably the likelihood that some are so well done you can not tell the difference, I have heard this said about some Ming ceramics.
I agree with you in old European countries you can still buy original 19 and early 20 century porcelain and art coz for many people seams to be worth nothing, and many old people still have them in homes for life time and they remember times when it was cost almost nothing. Of course much of it is still worth almost nothing but is nice to have something original and cheap than fake stuff.
@@damnbrosky I think some Euro countries can still be gold mines for some types of wares, Japanese especially in my experience. 19th and 20th century porcelain can be highly valuable these days too, especially high quality Republic period porcelain, you just need to spend a lot of time learning to distinguish quality and authenticity but it is worth the effort if you are hunting in Europe because you will certainly find some nice things.
I feel like a handful of items sell at auction at the top of the market, but ive had success moving products from auction house to ebay pretty frequently. It just takes a little longer to sell them at the retail price.
Absolutely brilliant Peter. Myself have a love of blue and white, most of my collection is likely fake, however I'm not claiming it's nothing more than replicas. I've never paid more than a $ 100 for a piece. Is it reasonable to call out an auction house and say I'll offer you X amount for that nice copy. Too me I love it and just want it but not for a 1000.00 opening bid, like Jun ware, I saw a passed lot, they wanted a 3k starting bid, I'm thinking I'd pay 50 bucks for it, I mean it's a great replica. Or am I just stuck. I just crave having gorgeous pieces, I'm not rich so I'll never afford the real thing. Is there a solution or a place that openly sells the replicas at fair prices?
you know what my friend I do have a few piece's but that's from thirty years plus twenty years of this thing we call a hobby . RESEARCH is everything screw opinion look love and admit that I might be wrong. Singer songwriter Paul throw. I know that I am wrong about the spelling of his name. But the story is right . And if you don't like that song he has another it's called its a great day to kick somebody's ass. Anyway Peter I count on guys and gals, like you. Keep it up I don't know what I would do, without a good voice.
Thanks a lot ❗️
40% of so WOW😮
Peter, I’ve been trying to contact you via email and calling. Sorry to contact you this way but I can’t get through to get an answer. I’ve used the identification link numerous times and always got a video back in a few days. The last time I sent you 4 different items and pay pal payments went through. Yet I still haven’t gotten my identification videos sent to me. It was January 27th when I uploaded them. I’m sure it was an oversight. How can I get this resolved?
Thanks for all you do!
Will any of the fakes that is flooding the market ever acquire a value in their own right? Or are numbers of items too high and the quality too low? I ask because the Chinese have a long history of creating items that copy earlier forms and some of those ''copies'' now have a value of their own. I appreciate the situation was different as I am guessing these items was not made to cheat the buyer. I am just curious hence the question.
Only a master reproduction will have any value, and then only a fraction of the original as it’s merely a decorative piece. 99 percent of the stuff Peter is talking about are mass produced and poorly done, not worth more than 50.00.
@@joshanderson5676 Thank you for taking time to reply and explain
@Ashura Republican and earlier copies can be extremely valuable.
I was gonna ask you about that youtube guy... he's friggin hilarious!
Hope he doing well and bought another 20 pieces of imperial ru wares to his massive collection. Who knows, maybe he already opened his own gallery or museum.
He said CZcams guy and I was like, "Oh no, what'd I lie to Peter about?!" Then he said the piece was supposed to be valuable, and I knew I was safe! Hahaha
Who is the CZcams guy? I wanna watch 😂
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I think I just got taken because I wanted to believe it was real. Is there someone I can send photos of some recent “song dynasty celadon” I got in Malaysia that I suspect is fake? And how would I confront the antique shop owner about it? Thanks.
There is always a scammer to scam the scammer
I suppose too that if one found a damaged beautifully decorated jar in a charity shop about 15 years ago that is covered with a centre band of reticulated celadon clouds covered in bats and is bordered with famille rose, and has an underglazed blue Quanlong seal mark on a turquoise base, then it’s obviously a fake....
Those wishful thinking treasure hunters should watch this video．
5:35 I don't know much but I'd say that's either Japanese and Real or Chinese and Fake it's hard to say without seeing the bottom.
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Thanks, Mr. Combs. This is also what I would tell inexperienced collectors. In 1980-1990s I have encountered many correct good Chinese items on various occasions; then these items were truly unrecognized but very valuable (now fewer and fewer). Luckily enough, I have learned serious lessons and gained some experience, and also gotten some correct ones. Some are displayed at
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im gonna destroy all fakes i get