I just about to finish liner installation! The only thing left to install skimmer! I did everything without vacuum cleaner and liner seats almost perfect. During the installation i initially made some space between the liner and wall (inch or two)! When water goes in (i am using garden hose) it presses and stretches liner towards the wall and eliminates air thru the skimmer opening!
Thank you so much for this informative video! I just removed and installed our new liner today and used all the steps and it looks great. Saved us 500 dollars and waiting weeks for someone to come out and do it.
Great video, well explained. Gotta do my 21 ft above ground this weekend. I checked out estimates on install, was given an estimate of 2k. Using my liner, I am no crackhead to know better😂😂, a six pack, with my wife and I am gonna try. Will update!. Thanks
Awesome video!! You guys did a great job! I'm a 1st time pool owner and this video will be very helpful if we ever have to change the liner. Thank you 😊
Hey! I install above ground pool also and just a tip when you the lyner is installed put tape on the skimmer and put a shop vac in the return hole, this way the air will take the place of the water for the time the water raises, so impossible to have wrinkles! On a hot day you can also use your feet when the water has at least filled the surface of the pool to mimic the water weight and cut the skimmer and return earlier
What's the deal with wrinkles on the side wall? i'm replacing a liner and I feel like the previous liner was flat against the wall, but the one I see in this video has some wrinkles. do they work themselves out, or should I expect to remove some top caps and pull the liner a bit tighter in some places?
Hi Dan, the wrinkles in the side walls will usually work themselves out when the pool is filled completely. The main focus should be removing the wrinkles on the floor since those cannot be removed without draining the pool.
As the water rises, the air behind the liner and wrinkles should be pressed out. The frame of the above ground pool is not airtight, so trying to shrinkwrap the liner in that fashion is not usually doable.
For some reason I had thought you normally didn't install the top rim until later so you could pull wrinkles out of the sides..... We are having issues with the pool liner being pulled up and almost over the top and maybe not putting the ring on is why? The bottom isn't exactly level (old pool someone else installed years ago)
Thank you so much your videos came in handy! I've never install a linner before the local pool guy was charging me $1700 with the liner and Amazon had it for $400 so I did it and I had left for my honeymoon!!@
If you have drains in your above ground pool, you would treat them like the skimmer. The liner would go over the body of the main drain. Then you'd line up the main drain face plate over the liner so that the holes from the face plate and main drain body match up. Tighten the screws through the frame, liner, and into main drain housing. The liner material in the center of the frame can be removed and the cover can be installed.
I've heard that a pool will collapse AS it is drained!!--- Is this true? What precautions can we take to prevent this? Our pool is an above-ground, 33 footer! 😳
Hello Lisa - Unless the pool is severely damaged, draining it should not be the reason it collapses. Above ground pools are drained all of the time to replace liners. There is a risk of the pool collapsing if you leave it drained for a long period of time. Natural forces like wind could cause the pool wall to collapse.
Unfortunately, the owner of the pool does not remember the make and model of the pool. If you would like us to ID your pool. Please email the following pictures/information to agparts@inyopools.com: Size & approximate age of the pool Image of the pool wall. Image of the upright Image of the top rail connection to the upright. Name of the pool (if known). Again, email the pictures to agparts@inyopools.com and our A/G pools parts dept will contact you through a direct reply to your email.
They installed it wrong.. you are suppose to get the wrinkles out of the bottom and then put a shopvac through the skimmer to get all wrinkles out until the water gets about 3 to 4 inches deep
Yes, we carry a few Aqua Leader top cap variations, you can find them on our above ground pool top cap page - www.inyopools.com/Category/top-cap-selections.aspx
The weight of the water helps stretch the liner to the form of the pool. Once the pool is filled, the liner should be pressed to the wall and wrinkle-free.
FYI, think ahead of time. Where I live, thunderstorms pop up randomly. I don't have time to drain the pool and wait around for the remaining water to evaporate. And it's unbelievably hard to get all of the water out using the pump, the siphon trick, and even a wet vac. After messing with it for over half a day, I just cut the liner at the bottom, but with the coves and plastic floor in place, that water doesn't go anywhere. So then I spent another 3 hours cleaning up a mess, and the ground is saturated under the plastic flooring. It's been the biggest nightmare. Get yourself a pump that can get every bit of water out if you have a tight deadline.
I had to replace my liner 12 years ago and put in a main drain on the bottom of my pool at that time in case I ever had to drain it again. It helps circulate more with a skimmer and main drain. I'm getting ready to change my liner again next week and so glad I installed that main bottom drain last time. Should be much easier to drain this time using the pool pump.
@kathylp8459 I may do that next time round. I finally got the water clear, and high winds blew in unexpectedly that night, collapsed the wall in several places. What should have been a simple project turned into a nightmare 2 month project. I did find out after that the ground wasn't level, and they didn't put any pavers in, so I redid everything right. And the creases worked themselves out with the pool filled up, been enjoying it since. Invested in a sump pump for next time 😀
I see that this took two men I guess a couple of hours to do this. Do you feel that this is really possible or do you just call a professional in? I want to do this because I can’t get any pool company to replace my liner for me. They won’t touch it because they didn’t install it.
for how big of a company you guys are I'd imagine you guys would have had installers that knew how to put up liners.. look how loose that liner is and how many wrinkles it has.. They didn't even use a shop vac until it got about 3-4 inches deep.. Ive never seen a liner that loose around the skimmer while water is halfway up
OK. Now how do I get out of the pool once I fitted the new liner and before filling it? I'm afraid of using a stepladder for fear of putting a hole i the new liner. ;)
@@bdoubleu6 Yeh. I don't have a ladder I have steps, which I decided to use, but was wondering if anyone had success with a step ladder (without ruining the liner).
You can use a piece of plywood (rounded edges) under a step ladder to avoid pokung holes. Just have someone stabalize the step ladder- and something in the outside to step onto if there is no deck. You can atring rope thru holes drilled in the plywood to pull it up after ladder is removed.
I just had a brand new pool installed. My base was 7/8" compacted aggregate the pool company never put down no sand over top of the aggregate, nor did they use a pool cove. They put peat moss on top of the aggregate then installed the pool liner. We went into the pool and we could feel all of these dips plus sharp areas where we walked around the pool. I'm presuming our brand new pool now has to be disassembled and redone properly. I've order a ground cover and pool coving. I'm also going to order Mason sand and put it down prior to putting down the pool padding. Are you able to tell me how much sand I would need for a 18' round above ground pool? How hard is it going to be to realign the liner with the skimmer? Thanks I would appreciate any answers you can give me. I'm still waiting to see if the pool company is going to take it apart and reassemble it properly.
You can use a shop vac to suck out the air from behind the liner. You can insert the shop vac hose through the skimmer wall opening. And slide the hose down between the wall and liner. Keep the suction opening of the hose about 12" from the cove. Turn on the shop vac. You can turn off the vac and adjust the liner if you notice wrinkles.
I was given. 28 foot above ground pool. I disassembled the pool my self and now when I am.putting it back together at my house there seems to be not enough liner. It's like the liner was made for a 26 foot diameter pool not a 28 foot. Don't know what I'm doing wrong.
If it is the original liner, it may no longer stretch enough. This is common when an older pool liner is allowed to dry out. Installing the old liner on a warm sunny day may help the material stretch, but you may end up needing to replace the liner.
We drained our pool to clean leaves (our cover didn’t stay on the pool thru winter). When we starting filling the pool back the liner kept slipping out of the tracks. Had to drain and move the liner. Same thing. Our liner had shrunk because we drained out all of the water. Had to replace liner.
Like tamping the sand, like installing in a criss cross at top liner like you would a car lugnut pattern. Like Not cutting the hole for skimmer till water is 3" from it to allow stretch fully.... so many more. I hope someone watches several more and not just this video. Yes it works ( with many wrinkles and twists) but not the way to do it...
@@toddandjensadventures3005 Doing a friends pool We don't have the j-hook style liner as in the video We have the old just pull the extra over the side style... and the bottom isn't exactly level and it pulled away from the uphill side (basically about to pull over the top completely) BUT we didn't install the metal ring before filling in case adjustments were needed- was that our problem? I had thought you didn't install the metal ring until later.
@@inna1633 I have done several, but no time for videos of this content. I hope people will watch several others and find the correct way. Plenty to learn.
Thanks! Great video. Installer wanted $1,100 to replace a 15 x 30 liner. This video makes it look simple enough!!!
Hi great video but I have a question. Why didn't you use a vacuum to suck the liner closer to the pool wall?
I just about to finish liner installation! The only thing left to install skimmer! I did everything without vacuum cleaner and liner seats almost perfect. During the installation i initially made some space between the liner and wall (inch or two)! When water goes in (i am using garden hose) it presses and stretches liner towards the wall and eliminates air thru the skimmer opening!
Thank you so much for this informative video! I just removed and installed our new liner today and used all the steps and it looks great. Saved us 500 dollars and waiting weeks for someone to come out and do it.
Oooh im try to do this tomorrow 🤞😅
That's awesome! Glad it helped.
500 ?? In our area is estimated at few k ....and really wanted to know if me and hubby can do it 😊
That would be 500.00 well spent for me…
How long will this process take me? (My pool is almost empty of water.) How many sunny days in a row do I need?
very helpful
Great video. Thank you very much. Now feeling like I will tackle this on my own. Much appreciated!
Great video, well explained. Gotta do my 21 ft above ground this weekend. I checked out estimates on install, was given an estimate of 2k. Using my liner, I am no crackhead to know better😂😂, a six pack, with my wife and I am gonna try. Will update!. Thanks
Good luck! Keep us posted.
How did it go we maybe attempting this weekend
How did it go?
@@Krispi-Kat he passed away
Sounds like wife killed him
Awesome video!! You guys did a great job! I'm a 1st time pool owner and this video will be very helpful if we ever have to change the liner. Thank you 😊
Awesome! Thank you!
Hey! I install above ground pool also and just a tip when you the lyner is installed put tape on the skimmer and put a shop vac in the return hole, this way the air will take the place of the water for the time the water raises, so impossible to have wrinkles! On a hot day you can also use your feet when the water has at least filled the surface of the pool to mimic the water weight and cut the skimmer and return earlier
Use a shop vac on the outside of the pool through the rerun line to remove wrinkles?
Yes, the shop vac makes it perfect! You'll gave to cover skimmer driving with tape and really makes a clean install... no wrinkles!
Thank you so much. My area of the country is booming and pool companies will only do new pool installs, and not maintenance work.
Great video helps a lot with the insulation.
Glad it was helpful!
What's the deal with wrinkles on the side wall? i'm replacing a liner and I feel like the previous liner was flat against the wall, but the one I see in this video has some wrinkles. do they work themselves out, or should I expect to remove some top caps and pull the liner a bit tighter in some places?
Hi Dan, the wrinkles in the side walls will usually work themselves out when the pool is filled completely. The main focus should be removing the wrinkles on the floor since those cannot be removed without draining the pool.
@@Inyopools thanks, that exactly how it worked out!
I was worried about the side wrinkles, but other comments on here suggest that they work themselves out. Bottom wrinkles require draining the pool
Easy to follow instructions but is there any reasons why the air wasn't sucked out? There´s a lot of wrinkles left on the side of the liner.
As the water rises, the air behind the liner and wrinkles should be pressed out. The frame of the above ground pool is not airtight, so trying to shrinkwrap the liner in that fashion is not usually doable.
Well explained and.a really great video
dont forget the gaskets for the skimmer and the return
Great point!
the liner was twisted on the back side was it fixed?
For some reason I had thought you normally didn't install the top rim until later so you could pull wrinkles out of the sides.....
We are having issues with the pool liner being pulled up and almost over the top and maybe not putting the ring on is why?
The bottom isn't exactly level (old pool someone else installed years ago)
Thank you so much your videos came in handy! I've never install a linner before the local pool guy was charging me $1700 with the liner and Amazon had it for $400 so I did it and I had left for my honeymoon!!@
regarding liner pad floor guard...my instructions say install pad first then cove. You installed cove first. Any reason? Thanks
Installation instructions can vary according to the manufacturer. As long as the cove and pad stay in place, you did it correctly in my book. 😉
Awesome video. Thank you.
Glad you liked it!
Best video on you tube
Right to the point ! I love that. Thanks!
You're welcome. Thank you for the feedback!
How long did it take yall for this because I have to help my dad and the pool is medium sized it’s 4 ft deep but idk how wide
What do you do about drains in the bottom of your pool?
If you have drains in your above ground pool, you would treat them like the skimmer. The liner would go over the body of the main drain. Then you'd line up the main drain face plate over the liner so that the holes from the face plate and main drain body match up. Tighten the screws through the frame, liner, and into main drain housing. The liner material in the center of the frame can be removed and the cover can be installed.
Great work real pros !
I've heard that a pool will collapse AS it is drained!!--- Is this true? What precautions can we take to prevent this? Our pool is an above-ground, 33 footer! 😳
Hello Lisa - Unless the pool is severely damaged, draining it should not be the reason it collapses. Above ground pools are drained all of the time to replace liners. There is a risk of the pool collapsing if you leave it drained for a long period of time. Natural forces like wind could cause the pool wall to collapse.
@@Inyopools Thank you for your reply--We are studying the videos!!
@@grandysfitness7145 they did also say you could tape the sides up to the rails to keep from falling over. That should help as well
What happens with the slack in the liner?
Great job,
U guys rock thanx for the video
What model pool was that? I have a pool that looks exactly the same that I need some spare parts for.
Unfortunately, the owner of the pool does not remember the make and model of the pool.
If you would like us to ID your pool. Please email the following pictures/information to agparts@inyopools.com: Size & approximate age of the pool Image of the pool wall. Image of the upright Image of the top rail connection to the upright. Name of the pool (if known). Again, email the pictures to agparts@inyopools.com and our A/G pools parts dept will contact you through a direct reply to your email.
Do you put silicone on the screws when putting the s rews back in for the water return?
You do not need to add silicone to the screws. The return gasket will be enough to seal the hole.
Can you use a shop vac to get wrinkles out of walls?
Also, do I need to remove my plastic fence thats bolted to outside of pool walls?
Yes, a shop vac to remove the wrinkles. As long as the fence doesn't prevent you from removing the top rails, you should be able to leave it in place.
Why did you not pull the wrinkles out. Will the water displace them? Won’t you have what looks like seems in your pool if they aren’t pulled tight?
They installed it wrong.. you are suppose to get the wrinkles out of the bottom and then put a shopvac through the skimmer to get all wrinkles out until the water gets about 3 to 4 inches deep
That’s what we did when we installed ours! We used a shop vac
What gel/sealant did you put under the screws when you reassembled everything? I see it coming out of the holes.
Where to buy this pool
Do you guys carry aqua leader top caps?
Yes, we carry a few Aqua Leader top cap variations, you can find them on our above ground pool top cap page - www.inyopools.com/Category/top-cap-selections.aspx
Yes I have a question why does the liner looks lose and thank you for showing me how to do it
The weight of the water helps stretch the liner to the form of the pool. Once the pool is filled, the liner should be pressed to the wall and wrinkle-free.
Does this work the same way with an oval pool, with a cat walk?
FYI, think ahead of time. Where I live, thunderstorms pop up randomly. I don't have time to drain the pool and wait around for the remaining water to evaporate. And it's unbelievably hard to get all of the water out using the pump, the siphon trick, and even a wet vac. After messing with it for over half a day, I just cut the liner at the bottom, but with the coves and plastic floor in place, that water doesn't go anywhere. So then I spent another 3 hours cleaning up a mess, and the ground is saturated under the plastic flooring. It's been the biggest nightmare. Get yourself a pump that can get every bit of water out if you have a tight deadline.
I had to replace my liner 12 years ago and put in a main drain on the bottom of my pool at that time in case I ever had to drain it again. It helps circulate more with a skimmer and main drain. I'm getting ready to change my liner again next week and so glad I installed that main bottom drain last time. Should be much easier to drain this time using the pool pump.
@kathylp8459 I may do that next time round. I finally got the water clear, and high winds blew in unexpectedly that night, collapsed the wall in several places. What should have been a simple project turned into a nightmare 2 month project. I did find out after that the ground wasn't level, and they didn't put any pavers in, so I redid everything right. And the creases worked themselves out with the pool filled up, been enjoying it since. Invested in a sump pump for next time 😀
what do I need to buy? to winterize my pool so that the water levels remain high
To clarify, you want to winterize your pool but wish to keep the pool's water level the same as when it's being used?
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Nice
So no caulking around the skimmeror anything like that?
Really late to the party, but I don't think it needs anything but the butterfly gasket
I see that this took two men I guess a couple of hours to do this. Do you feel that this is really possible or do you just call a professional in? I want to do this because I can’t get any pool company to replace my liner for me. They won’t touch it because they didn’t install it.
for how big of a company you guys are I'd imagine you guys would have had installers that knew how to put up liners.. look how loose that liner is and how many wrinkles it has.. They didn't even use a shop vac until it got about 3-4 inches deep.. Ive never seen a liner that loose around the skimmer while water is halfway up
What about sucking out the air behind liner??????.....not necessary????
Sucking the air out will help avoid wrinkles.
OK. Now how do I get out of the pool once I fitted the new liner and before filling it? I'm afraid of using a stepladder for fear of putting a hole i the new liner. ;)
Use the pool ladder
@@bdoubleu6 Yeh. I don't have a ladder I have steps, which I decided to use, but was wondering if anyone had success with a step ladder (without ruining the liner).
@@jimmyjoe7705 I’ll let you know because I’ll be doing mine soon
You can use a piece of plywood (rounded edges) under a step ladder to avoid pokung holes.
Just have someone stabalize the step ladder- and something in the outside to step onto if there is no deck.
You can atring rope thru holes drilled in the plywood to pull it up after ladder is removed.
Fold an old blanket and put under step ladder legs
Why wouldn't you vacuum the wrinkles out?
I just had a brand new pool installed. My base was 7/8" compacted aggregate the pool company never put down no sand over top of the aggregate, nor did they use a pool cove. They put peat moss on top of the aggregate then installed the pool liner. We went into the pool and we could feel all of these dips plus sharp areas where we walked around the pool. I'm presuming our brand new pool now has to be disassembled and redone properly. I've order a ground cover and pool coving. I'm also going to order Mason sand and put it down prior to putting down the pool padding. Are you able to tell me how much sand I would need for a 18' round above ground pool? How hard is it going to be to realign the liner with the skimmer? Thanks I would appreciate any answers you can give me. I'm still waiting to see if the pool company is going to take it apart and reassemble it properly.
That's not good. GL
@@dappster pool company came in and corrected the mistake no mason sand was put down pool works great now
use a shopvac inserted in the skimmer hole to pull the liner in a vacuum and there is no need to jump around on the liner to pull wrinkles out.
How do you get the wrinkles out of the wall?
You can use a shop vac to suck out the air from behind the liner. You can insert the shop vac hose through the skimmer wall opening. And slide the hose down between the wall and liner. Keep the suction opening of the hose about 12" from the cove. Turn on the shop vac. You can turn off the vac and adjust the liner if you notice wrinkles.
good vid
I was given. 28 foot above ground pool. I disassembled the pool my self and now when I am.putting it back together at my house there seems to be not enough liner. It's like the liner was made for a 26 foot diameter pool not a 28 foot. Don't know what I'm doing wrong.
It's like when I work my way around the pool, the pool wall bulges out and nowhere near the liner. I have to be doing something wrong.
If it is the original liner, it may no longer stretch enough. This is common when an older pool liner is allowed to dry out. Installing the old liner on a warm sunny day may help the material stretch, but you may end up needing to replace the liner.
@@carsoneverett3287 You can't reuse a liner, once water is removed it is unuseable.
We drained our pool to clean leaves (our cover didn’t stay on the pool thru winter). When we starting filling the pool back the liner kept slipping out of the tracks. Had to drain and move the liner. Same thing. Our liner had shrunk because we drained out all of the water. Had to replace liner.
need someone to do this for us in San Diego
Are the wrinkles by the skimmer acceptable?
can you dig 8 inches in the middle? Will it stretch me thinking yes.? Thanks
Primero se pone el gorila pack y después los cove que queden arriba eso está malo
Who keep saying good job? The wall was full of wrinkles and they reused the old Gaskets. D+ for the install.
Lesson. Get an in-ground pool.
Inground pools can also have liners.
So many wrongs in this video...
Like what?
Like tamping the sand, like installing in a criss cross at top liner like you would a car lugnut pattern. Like Not cutting the hole for skimmer till water is 3" from it to allow stretch fully.... so many more. I hope someone watches several more and not just this video. Yes it works ( with many wrinkles and twists) but not the way to do it...
@@toddandjensadventures3005
Doing a friends pool
We don't have the j-hook style liner as in the video
We have the old just pull the extra over the side style... and the bottom isn't exactly level and it pulled away from the uphill side (basically about to pull over the top completely)
BUT we didn't install the metal ring before filling in case adjustments were needed- was that our problem?
I had thought you didn't install the metal ring until later.
@@toddandjensadventures3005 do one and make a video ...would be more helpfull than a comment
@@inna1633 I have done several, but no time for videos of this content. I hope people will watch several others and find the correct way. Plenty to learn.