Two ways to set up a creative logic pro template
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- Here we look at two different techniques for setting up a creative template - that I used for two tracks on my new album. Presave "Nocturne" on Spotify now! distrokid.com/hyperfollow/pau...
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Join me on my journey to release my first studio album. Is there a way to release an album in 2024 and make it financially viable? This is the fourth part to my journey - the template. Each week I'll outline every step of the process from initial ideas all the way to manufacture and setting up your shop.
My album is now on preorder - with a free sound pack! - and the physical release and mailout date is 18th April.
Thank you to the incredible musicians who played on my music and the talented engineers who helped me get it over the finish line:
Track listing:
1 - A Home From Home
2 - Ecstatic Skies
3 - Golden Hour
4 - Summer Heat
5 - Ballet Of The Snow
6 - Dreaming Of The Lights
7 - City Of Angels
8 - Into The Void
9 - Cloudburst
10 - Moonrise Dew
11 - Melancholy
12 - Nocturne
All tracks written, produced and mixed by Paul Thomson
Recorded at The Bull Pen and The Lane
Strings recorded by Isabel Gracefield at RAK Studio 1
Strings contracted by Hilary Skewes
Transcriptions by Ben Foskett
Mastered by Cicely Balston at AIR Mastering
Musicians
Tina Guo: Cello (5) Ash Soan: Drums (9) Mike Georgiades: Guitar (9) Anthony Weeden: Conductor (2,3,8,9,11) Jonathan Morton: Leader (2,3,8,9) Violin solo (11) Anna Blackmur, Magdalena Filipczak, Raja Halder, Magnus Johnston, Antonia Kesel, Eloisa-Fleur Thom: Violin (2,3,8,9,11) Laurie Anderson, Meghan Cassidy, Gary Pomeroy: Viola (2,3,8,9,11) Richard Harwood, Brian O'Kane, Jessie Ann Richardson: Cello (2,3,8,9,11) Leon Bosch, Lucy Shaw: Contrabass (2,3,8,9,11)
JOURNEYS sound pack - to keep you busy while I finish the process of prepping for release heres a fun sound pack of some of my favourite sounds that I created to use while making the record. (And a few extra!) Includes some great playable Logic Pro Sampler and Kontakt (full version) instruments of sounds including Balalaika, Psaltery Pads, Cello FX, DFAM basses, fx and drums samples, Nylon Guitar, Wine Glasses, Studio Drumkit, Flute Air FX, Clarinet texture pad, Electric guitar FX and pads, Ride Cymbal taps. over 600 MB of content across 62 patches. REQUIRES either LOGIC PRO in 'Sampler' format or FULL VERSION OF KONTAKT 5.8.1 or later. Does NOT work in free Kontakt PLAYER. Both formats included in download. Also sample content is WAV format so you can just drag audio into your sessions if you prefer.
CD DELIVERY INFORMATION - please read before ordering: we ship using ROYAL MAIL TRACKED only. Tracked shipping will provide you with a tracking number. If lost during shipping we will provide a replacement free of charge.
Sound Pack content:
Journeys - Balalaika.nki
Journeys - Breath fx sounds.nki
Journeys - Cello drone.nki
Journeys - Cello Drop fx.nki
Journeys - Clarinets pad.nki
Journeys - Cym Bell soft.nki
Journeys - Cym Edge Open soft.nki
Journeys - Cym Large soft.nki
Journeys - Cym Splash soft.nki
Journeys - DFAM Bass 1.nki
Journeys - DFAM Bass 2.nki
Journeys - DFAM Bass 3.nki
Journeys - DFAM Bass 4.nki
Journeys - DFAM Bass 5.nki
Journeys - DFAM Bass 6.nki
Journeys - DFAM Bass 7.nki
Journeys - DFAM Bass 8.nki
Journeys - DFAM Bass 9.nki
Journeys - DFAM Bass Drums.nki
Journeys - DFAM Chime 1.nki
Journeys - DFAM Chime 2.nki
Journeys - DFAM Chime 3.nki
Journeys - DFAM Chime 4.nki
Journeys - DFAM Chime 5.nki
Journeys - DFAM Doom.nki
Journeys - DFAM Drop.nki
Journeys - DFAM NoiseBlips.nki
Journeys - DFAM Snares.nki
Journeys - DFAM Toms.nki
Journeys - Gtr fx sounds.nki
Journeys - Gtrfx Blipsicle.nki
Journeys - Gtrfx Chug Monoish.nki
Journeys - Gtrfx GrillChug.nki
Journeys - Gtrfx Grind UpDown.nki
Journeys - Gtrfx Scarysoft.nki
Journeys - Gtrfx Sparkleforwards.nki
Journeys - Gtrfx Sparklereverse.nki
Journeys - Gtrfx Starrynight.nki
Journeys - Gtrfx Stereoizchug.nki
Journeys - Gtrfx Synthmetachug.nki
Journeys - Gtrpad Mysterion.nki
Journeys - Gtrpad Pothead.nki
Journeys - Gtrpad Prescient.nki
Journeys - Gtrpad Thoughtful.nki
Journeys - Huge Match strike.nki
Journeys - Kit BD and Toms.nki
Journeys - Kit BD.nki
Journeys - Kit Cyms.nki
Journeys - Kit Dub Breaks source.nki
Journeys - Kit HH.nki
Journeys - Metal Gate tone.nki
Journeys - Nylon guitar.nki
Journeys - Pen Desk taps.nki
Journeys - Perc Breath n Spit.nki
Journeys - Perc knock n slams.nki
Journeys - Piano Low Staccato mp.nki
Journeys - Psaltery Cluster hits.nki
Journeys - Psaltery Cluster MW.nki
Journeys - Psaltery pad.nki
Journeys - Roller Perc clack.nki
Journeys - Wine Glass 1.nki
Journeys - Wine Glass 2.nki - Hudba
If you have the on/off button 'off' for the stack but 'on' for any tracks you want active within the stack, that should sort your problem of everything loading! Stack still works fine even when the button is off
Very useful thanks for this!
Yep absolutely true. Your tracks won't load unless the power button is active.
Another advantage is if you activate or deactivate the summing stack power button it will reciprocate the effect to all the enclosed tracks too. If you only hade half those tracks on and the others off when you deactivated the summing stack, it will only activate the tracks that were previously on.
It actually is a very powerful way to keep big sessions organised with minimal memory/CPU footprint.
That's my trick to solve this too , works like charm.
Some great advices! I use mostly something very similar to the first template you showed here. And congrats for the album!
Thank you Davide!
In Logic you can (finally) also do subfolders into a stack. E.g. having folder stacks inside a summing stack. Or summing folders inside a summing folder.
Making it possible for even better organisation.
(Shortcut for stacks is command + shift + D)
Very interesting!! I'm going to try that tomorrow!
Good to see you exited again Paul :) Looking forward hearing the new album. As a Studio One user the workflow is of course different from Logic. Working now on incorporating SSO in my Vepro and DAW template, using Studio One's sound variations.
Thanks!! I need to look at Studio One - its one DAW I'm not familiar with. Always fun to try out new ways of working!
Excellent, as always, Paul, and many congratulations on the new release. I wish you great success!
A couple of useful comments here, too. The on/off stack thing is a good one. I based my now nearly-completed (NEVER say that) 1800+ tracks giant template on your previous YT post from last year. It was challenging and took a few attempts, mainly because I was running out of tracks. I want a fully fleshed-out, future-proof (hah!) template with pretty much everything of importance in place, ready to load. A bit like you, actually. In the end I found a good balance between Kontakt singles and multi-channel (and for Spitfire, SINE, Opus, etc.) and this yields me up to 2000 tracks. Actually, this template loads in 7 seconds (instruments off) if Logic is already launched, so it’s far from sluggish! Now all I need is a job 🙄
I still have a few unused instrument tracks, for spares, which is great. Bearing in mind that one Kontakt multi-instrument gives 16 "tracks", of course, while one instance gives, um, one. Track. I ended up not using the dedicated reverb inserts per stack, and went for sending to buses, which included some submix stuff, too. Drums, bass guitar, synth/synth bass, vox/choir; the usual thing, plus a multipurpose section, as you describe at 15'.55". Right now, it’s around 140 buses. I think that should do it.....
I really like your new FX/Subbing/Routing approach, which wasn't present on the earlier template. In my case I’m simpler and just use submixes. I’m not really an audio engineer type, but there are always ways to redirect signal paths. Aren't there? Michael Brauer, eh? Dear God.
I started all this on my dear old late-2012 iMac, 32GB RAM, knowing the template could never run on it. I was absorbed by your earlier walkthrough, and it inspired me to go for it. I recently bought a Mac Studio M2 Ultra, 192 GB RAM. Even so, I still wanted to minimise cpu strain, by removing those dedicated FX inserts. Also, I revised the longs/shorts approach and went for all articulations in one instrument, wherever possible. Controversial for some, but it’s significantly simplified things for me, and freed up many tracks. I’m a little sceptical of the longs/shorts reverb philosophy, frankly. Just my take.
I'm hoping Logic will eventually offer more tracks/auxes than 1000, as I'd like to move away from using multi-instruments. I’m not a blank template guy, and never will be: speed of access is everything, just like you.Your entertaining and informative tutorials are gold for me, thank you. Studio sounded tamed now. So sorry for my verbosity: I will out-waffle you, any day...😱
haha! interesting - and blimey thats a template..! I'm annoyed by the 1000 limit on Logic as well - why???! I'm looking at those Studio machines.. my ludicrously expensive 2019 mac pro is now less powerful than my macbook air.. we live in interesting times!
Incredible, isn't it, the pace of advancement? Well, you were the inspiration for my excesses, Sir! I've learned a lot from your walkthroughs and other tutorials, plus the expert commenters contributing. My template is built for the future, and I wouldn't be using 1800 tracks at the same time, of course. Or would I....? 😈I've done it, because... I could ;) And you are using a lot more audio and live instruments, which is rare for me, nowadays, so I decided to customise your approach to suit my situation.
I've not used the Ultra in anger yet but I'm confident in its power, which is considerable. Yes, why the limitation indeed: I'm hoping Apple / Logic will wake up to this track/aux cap. It's only 0's and 1's. Right?! I believe there are some DAWs that do exceed 1000. Cubase....?
I'm sure your Mac Pro still kicks bottom, though. What I prefer about the Pros are the connectivity slots. And, of course, more user RAM. That's what I loved about my now ancient Mac Pros, gathering dust in a locker: just shovel in the pci-e cards, etc. Wonderful! The Ultra is basically a Mac Mini with a chip on its shoulder and it went to the gym. I actually don't know if 192 GB RAM is sufficient these days, but I had to reach for a stiff drink when I saw c.185 GB of memory, just idling in the menu bar. I believe the M3 Ultras' RAM could be double that of the present Studios. Time to check into rehab, then....
The only thing I've had with the Ultra are display connectivity glitches with my two BenQ 32" displays. They sometimes randomly go black. Now I've connected them both via USB-C it's far more stable. But I wanted to free up at least one USB port on the Ultra and use its HDMI port. That's where the issue lies, though. In case anyone's interested, I now believe it's the DP to HDMI cable I bought. I should be using at least a 40gbps one, as those displays are pretty well-spec'ed. Weirdly, I also have old 23" Apple Cinema display, injected via a cheap Benfei adapter, and it's flawless. Rock solid! And the colours still look great, some 23 years on.
Thank you once again. I'll shut up now....🤐
I have a question. if I have a lead vocal, background vocals, and harmonies is it best to create separate auxes for each different vocal subgroup. for example lead vocal 8th delay, lead vocal quarter delay, lead vocal reverb. and then separate set of auxes named for example background vocal 8th delay, background vocal quarter delay, background vocal reverb and so on and so forth. because in most peoples templates I only see one aux for each effect.but I was thinking of creating separate ones for each vocal subgroup
Yes I would do that - so you can stem the vocal sections with their own fx and not have to worry about muting tracks to boucne out your stems
Thank you for the video, very interesting. On my side I've the tendency to have a simpler template. Far simpler, I don't like to have a 3 meters wide scrolling mixing console window.
But more seriously, please, Paul, don't do anything with Spotify. They steal all of us and you have to sell merch' to get little money. It's ridiculous, We Are Musicians, not tshirts and mugs sellers. 😭 So, please.
@FLH3official yeah Spotify is really bad, we need to boycott this madness !!!
@@lukaszsalomonbryla6854 I do boycott it personnaly, obviously, but we also have to explain to listeners why this is so bad for them. And the well known artists should embrace this.
I get your sentiment! That’s why I’m approaching it very cautiously. But I don’t see where the distribution is if not there. It’s what most people listen to now. Let’s see what happens anyway!
@@PaulThomsonMusic I know, these crooks (yes, they were and they are) are in a dominant position. But our position can be dominant too. No more music = no more Spotify/Tunecore/Deezer/Distrokids and all the gang of leeches. We make what they sell.
If we continue to offer them for free our creations they have absolutely no reason to pay us decently. Absolutely no reason. If we do nothing we have no reason to cry and we have to be happy to be stollen.
What is your solution then? I mean, is there a better alternative?