Blacksmithing for Beginners - Understanding Cold Chisels
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- Blacksmithing for Beginners - Understanding Cold Chisels. Here I describe the types of cold chisels I use to shape metal.
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D F I'm 72 and very handy in my DIY experience, and you showed me a lot of I've been weading chisels because I wasn't taught much. I had a woodworking and steel shop in school, and them teacher actually more like babysitter than truly trying to teach.
I believe teaching something about just keeping the parents on the jobsights and having kids not to hunt each other, yes, like babysitting and selecting a few kids who have great learning abilities to become brains to build this nation.
Wish I had such as you as a mentor and influenced me.
Thanks for the teaching
Dennis, I've used cold chisels for over 40 years and never thought about using them in this way until seeing your video. An old dog learns some new tricks. Thank you for sharing. :-)
Thank you for sharing this. There is something satifying about removing lots of metal with a cold chisel.
I recently pulled out an old 2" steel pipe fence post that someone had set in place with about 200 pounds of cement!
I used a rotary hammer to drill holes in the concrete to weakn it, and broke a ten pound sledge hammer trying to break up the concrete!
So I pulled out a 5/8" Proto cold chisel and a two pound hammer as a means of breaking up the concrete. That was still a lot of work, but with more hole drilling I broke that up into smaller pieces I can dispose of.
Other than some minor mushrooming of the head, there was no damage to the chisel, much to my surprise. That must be some very hard steel!
Having succeeded with that, I looked up Proto cold chisels, and that looks like a quality product.
From there, I went to You Tube to look for idea on how I should use a cold chisel, and your video has been an education!
Thanks for the ideas! Any comments on using a cold chisel on concrete like I did? It worked pretty effectively and did not apparent damage to the chisel, so peraps this is an acceptable use for the tool.
Again absolutely great video. When it comes to tradistional means of moving material people tend to overlook the chisel completely. Thank you for making this video, as it demonstrates very clearly how effective these tools are, and even superior for certain tasks.
I just couldn't believe, what I just saw.... Lots of thanks for sharing how to carve metal with a cold chisel.
Many thanks for the upload. Always had a fascination with cold chisels, especially the way traditional gunsmiths use them. Today the cold chisel is still often used to cut out material in ribs for claw mounts. In the old days, the cold chisel was one of the first tools you got to use when starting an apprenticeship. And was the predecessor to the milling machine. It is possible to build a whole gun with hand tools like this. Except of course the barrel that needs boring et c.
Amazing !!! just ordered some cold chisels. I’ve been doing way too much filing. Had no idea about this. Thank you so much.
holy crap this is awesome! I haven't been as excited about something like this in a while thank you!
Great exactly what the doctor ordered, never understood shearing from reading a book but your video has made it clear and simple. Thank you
i've been following your videos for a couple of years now , you are a great source of information and inspire me to get back in to the forge .I love your" DF-in the shop " channel. thank you for your excellent guidance .
Thanks for sticking around. As you know I was having a lot of problems getting videos out back then. It's a nice surprise to find out how many followed me over here.
@@df-intheshop330 thanks for the video, quick question can you use masonry cold chisels?
Thanks for sharing all your knowledge and time !
Super helpful.... Really appreciate you taking the time to share. Truly appreciated.
This was a great video.
thank you so much for this video. it's a great coincidence that just recently I've began to really enjoy using them...
They are addictive
Thanks to this video I realised I could change my mechanics chisels into single edge types with my dremel & the grinding attachments. Single edge seems best for working in tight spots
Well thank you for explaining what a cold chisel is. I actually had no idea until now.
Same here. I always thought they were for working with stone
Wow that was unreal when you started slotting at 8:00
I'd never seen that style of cold chisel before
Thanks, it's the only practical steel cutting for my case, making tools and things in an apartment
Just got a cheap box thanks for the video. Now I know some basics.
They used to make a lot of stuff like that... great video.. great topic.. learned some myself.
Thank You Thank You Thank You for posting this
Thanks Dennis!
great video!
hello sir, im studying engineering right now (just my first year) and i find this video VERY helpful!! thank you
Wow great video
love your vids sir
This is a very interesting video. It helped me visualized the cold chisel which we aren't able to try using since there are no lab classes. Thank you very much for this!
Excellent! I've done very little cold chisel work on steel, but have used wood chisels on aluminum some with good results (even tried a beat up wood plane on aluminum too).
Good demo. Thanks
Thanks
I have only used cold chisels on masonry or shearing rivets or splitting nuts. Never thought of using them in this manner. Thank-you for posting such an informative video. Cheers.
Thank you! I've learned a lot from this video though I will never do any of these. lol
thanks man!
I wish I knew you back when I was making knives. I used to drill a row of holes in the brass or nickel silver guard that the tang went through and then it took me forever to file it out square with needle filed. I could have just made a punch like you did here to get most of it!
Your videos are great! I watch every single one of them
Thanks - not to many people have
This might be my favorite video of yours
I never get tired of making them or using them
Super helpful. I have become pretty proficient in all sorts of things over the years, machinework mostly, but chisels eluded me. How amazingly useful !
How can you identify a cold chisel from a hot chisel.
And do you have a video on hot chisels?
Thanks for the great videos
I learn every time I see one
You probably had searched The wiki but just to be safe I'm going help you identify a cold from a hot chisel a cold chisel has a duller steeper bevel edge(the angle of the chisel that forms a v shape) it's for preventing the edge from breaking a hot on the other hand has a less incline bevel but must only be used when the material is at forging temperature but if you insist though it will break and nothing will happen
very informative video , i have a question can these chisels be used on 4140 steel , and other alloy steels, like en19.
Excellent video, master, what colour must I looking for, for a chisel when tempering? Thanks
People say that blacksmithing is a "lost art" or whatever but i think that cold working metal is waaaay more lost to most. i really need to make some more chisels.
Not lost art just no one wanna learn it
I found this gastropod fossil I am going to go get out of limestone, all I have is Dasco 3/4 cold chisel and a railroad spike, hope things go long journey, I learned from your vid thanks.
I will be using a 3 lb mallet, gently, hope i get it out good
sir , i would like to know which type of steel or iron is required to make cold chisels, thanking you for a brilliant video.
Do you have another video that would include information on a hot-cut chisel? Specifically the recommended angle and temper characteristics....I thought it may be a greater angle to push away material.
you are giving me more excuses to avoid using a noisy grinder. thanks
Glad to help.
It looks like you make your own chisels. Do you use mild steel and then heat treat it to harden it?
Como fazer esse tipo de ferramentas?
Hi DF,
Thanks for your video, how would you go about cutting a thin and shallow gouge (~1mm deep/wide) in stainless steel?
I'd like to cut into a blade for inlaying copper wire. Thanks again :)
Work that fine isn't done with a gouge but with a graver that has a solid cross section so you would grind the stock to the thickness you need and profile the cutting edge to the shape you need. Paul Hamler has a couple of videos on wire inlay that will probably help. czcams.com/video/AN9Yzbgepj8/video.html
denis do you have a video on making your chisels, I am interested in making the padlock that's in your videos but not sure on the chisels, thanks in advance
This is the first of 3 videos I have on forging and heat treating. It describes how I do it. czcams.com/video/ZYO06j9Lgg8/video.html
can i know what types of steel you're using? thanks
thank you for these!
I'm curious. when cold chiseling, especially with a double bezel, am I correct is the observation that the chisel will follow the angle of the bevel? so if I hold my chisel on too steep an angle it will go too deep instead of just shaving off the excess?
hope I worded that right
Yes there is always one side of the chisel ( bevel ) that is controlling the cut. The bevel that is rubbing on the work is acting like the sole of a woodworking plane and prevents to cutting edge from going to deep. So if you raise that bevel off the work than you loose that control and the chisel will tend to dig into the work. Also that is why the bevels need to be ground flat. If the bevels are rounded ( convex ) you will not be able to register the cutting edge to the work.
@@df-intheshop330 what are the limits of cold chisels and hand files you think? Like at what point would you just need a mill and lathe?
Chisels have always just been a blunt bludgeoning tool for me, very interesting to see the finesse they can be used with!
Some of your chisels look like they might have started life as coil spring material, is that correct?
Thats right I always use coil springs or old crow bars
cheers, think I might start out with trying to make some small chisels when I get my forge going.
This video was posted more than 4 years ago, but I only watched it now. I dangerously assume that this chiseling demo was done on 1018 or some similar mild steel. Any idea how this will work on normal medium or high carbon steel and really pushing the boundary on more brittle brass, bronze or copper?
The same chisels work on high carbon steel that is properly annealed.
what's your go to tool steel? for chisels thanks love the videos
I use coil springs or crowbars simply because they are the most readily available. 5160 seams to be the most commonly steel used for springs.
thanks just getting started in blacksmithing
No problem - I also have three videos on forging and heat treating carbon steel. They explain the whole process. This is the first in the series czcams.com/video/ZYO06j9Lgg8/video.html If you have any other questions fell free to email me anytime.
Is it feasible to score/fracture hardened 1095 spring steel, or stainless alloys at .035" with these?
Any cutting edge tool will only work in materials that are softer than they are. The 1095 would need to be tempered to at least a spring temper. Even then the cutting edge will dull very quickly.
where did you get that awesome grinder?? May I please have the makers name and site of sale?
That was a yard sale find. There is only part of a tag left. It looks like it says Wisconsin? I'm not aware of anybody making these anymore.
Do you anneal the piece you are working on first?
Or does that depend on the metal/project?
This is mild steel and I don't usually have any problems with it. If you run into trouble first check the chisel and make sure its right especially if it is a new chisel. If the chisel is sharpened correctly and works fine on other pieces than you will need to try annealing to see if that corrects the problem.
Is that "tool steel" that the cold chisel is made off? Are there different grades of tool steel, to ask for at the metal store?
I make all my tools out of recycled scrap steel, usually coil springs or leaf springs. The most common steel used for coil springs is 5160. Plain carbon steels are identified by a number 10 as the first two digits in a 4 digit code. The last two is the amount of carbon in the steel. 5160 would be the same carbon content as 1060 but the 51 defines it as a different alloy. 1075 or 1090 is usually used for fine cutting edge tools.
sorry how do you heat and temper. what steel do you use.
All my chisels are just made by recycling spring steel. The links for my heat treating & forging carbon steel videos are in the description for this video
Could you show or use those chisel on hot metal also
No these are to be used on cold metal only.
Would using a cold chisel on wood work well?
The process for making wood chisels is the same as for making cold chisels. Wood chisels need to be tempered around a dark straw to red brown colour and the angle of the grind is around 25 - 30 degrees.
Can it cut mild steel or annealed steel
Yes, everything I'm working on in the video is mild steel
It looks like you made most of your chisels yourself. What kind of material does one use to make a cold chisel?
I recycle everything from scrap - usually old coil springs. See my heat treating videos for more info.
do you have any brand of cold chisel you would recommend if you didnt make your own?
'm no Xpert on cold chisels. However, I just used a Proto brand chisel in breaking up about 200 pounds of concrete so I could dispose of it. Drilled holes in the concrete with a rotary hammer then used the cold chisel sort of like a wedge, which could be pounded in to break the concrete.
When I was done, I was amazed ----not a trace of damage to the chisel!
From that I conclude that Proto must make good cold chisels. They have some excellent on line catalogs, too.
Is it a requirement that you just always have dirty hands to be a blacksmith? 😅
Seriously, though - thanks for all these videos. I’m spending hours watching them all, and will probably continue to do so for many years to come. This is an amazing resource.
What kind of steel is best for cold chisels?
The chisels I'm using here are just made from coil springs. See heat treating videos. I've never worked with anything else.
Where can I buy a set of these?
You might look up Proto tools ---- they have some good on line catalogs.
have you ever tried making a file or rasp?
No but it is definitely on the list.
Sweet.
DF, check out Clickspring's channel. he's a remarkable maker. he makes files from mild steel the way the ancient greeks would have made them.
Hi. I' m likes your Movies. But i have question, is all this Material to springsteel made?
All my chisels are made from spring steel
DF - In The Shop Thanks für the answer. I greet them.
What is cross cut chisel & half round chisel???
"cross cut" and "round" describe types of files, not types of chisels
So, how many times have ya busted your thumb knuckle with the hammer? I have done it about 19 times so far in a span of 2 years.
As I get older I can beat that record any day by noon. lol
@@df-intheshop330 Dang. Oh, when are you going to work on another betty lamp? Like, one with a hinge lid? I think seeing you do that would be amazing. I myself am working on a betty lamp that is similar and I took some tips from your last video about a lamp. That one just seemed a bit.... empty
one strike one look
150 years ago masonry chisels were still often cast iron, or rought and cast iron mix (until cast steel became common) and were only used with a wooden mallet....they had a mallet (nail like) head striking end but for granite they needed tougher cast STEEL and fatter chisels....like cold chisels but one inch thick....japanese are the best at traditional chisel making for tough material....(europe is mostly limestone so wood chisels workedfine)....they fire sharpened them on the job at days end.
who sells a handcrank grinder?
I don't think anybody still makes these but they can be found at yard sales and antique shops that deal with tools.
hey df i want to send forge (if you can call my rubbish a forge at all but have lost the email could you send it to me
found it
great
Subscribe for you sir
His hands are so vainy lmao
great video!