A stock 2024 TOYOTA TACOMA completely outperforms my MODDED NISSAN FRONTIER
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*The new Tacoma is now on the same Landcruiser 300 TNGAF platform, hence the excellent articulation. Remove the Tacoma sway bars for even more amazingness offroad* 😊 *The Tacoma here also dispays a proper use of ATRAC*
Well i took the plunge. My Tacoma TRD PRO is a distant memory. Im now a massive Nissan Frontier fan boy! Wow. What better. This thing is sweet.
Good for you! You honestly can’t beat the value of a Nissan Frontier.
What year TRD Pro did you have?
@@ryanb8736 It was a 2020.
You should of waited the new 2025 Fronteir finally has some tech to it!
@@jimmycline4778 You just don't get it do you.
Tacoma's rear flex is actually really good despite being stock. Every truck looked great here
I think all 3 trucks did fine - the Taco seemed a bit more comfortable with articulation, but the other 2 also held their own!
The wheels on the Tacoma looks great 👍🏼
Thanks for sharing.
It's awesome that your guests get to talk about their rigs.
Looks like another fun day!
Yeah what a great day. Thanks for the invite. That mud hole had us all fooled. It was booger sugar 😂 The Toyota had some great flex for sure. He’s got us both beat on resale.
Haha. You got that right! That taco will have a resale of more then my MSRP 😂
Hey man love this content! Nice to watch some good 'ol wheeling footage with some simple rigs. Not a bunch of "overlanders" and "off roaders" talking about how how you need to buy all this crap for your truck that you do no need. Keep it up!
Booger Sugar. Great seeing the Taco not break and, in fact, do really well through all those obstacles. The Frontier looks good but needs some flex. Seemed odd that the Jeep had so much slip
Stock Tacoma did amazing. Very surprising.
was not stock. they do not come with those wheels and tires.
Real trucks,real driving! Thanks
Awesome video! Three great trucks, a beautiful area and three friends wheeling, cannot get any better than that! Thanks for sharing brother!
Thanks for watching buddy!
The Tacoma hands down has better articulation, but you each took two different lines in that last obstacle. Both you and the Jeep put your passenger front tires in the deepest part of the hole (in the water). The Tacoma put that same tire upslope from that hole. His passenger side front end never dipped down because the tire was upslope and so the driver side rear end didn't have to lift very far. Once again, he does have better articulation, but that last obstacle was an apples to oranges comparison.
Great trucks. Impressive taco performance. Frontier looks sick on 35s.
Homie sent it hard on that first one !!! Hell yeah 🔥🔥
Got to get those stupid sidesteps off the black Tacoma quick.
I like my engine parts on the inside of my engine LOL
😂😂😂
Get rid of those useless predator steps, never understood putting those root catchers on a 4 wheeler 😜
Tacoma great if you like broken front diffs and exploding transmissions , I will stick with my Pro4X.
All in a panic over clickbait.
Only 2 broke out of 54,000 made so far. I’m sure it’s over 100k made now with only 2 broken.
You drama boys are so funny. You cry over a .0000081 percent. 😂
Toyota will have the company redesign the parts to outlast any other brand.
Like my friend said that works at Nissan, “if they didn’t break, I wouldn’t be working overtime”. Everything breaks. No matter what brand.
In a year, everyone will forget about the two trucks that broke. Toyota will still be leader in trucks.
@@ryanb8736all of the car channels that had the new tacomas had failing differentials and overheating transmissions lol. As far as the new twin turbo v6’s on there trucks u cant even trade it in. The toyota quality isnt the same since 2015. Been a yota guy for 20 years but the frontier to me is a much better truck. The tundra is the most recalled truck rn.
Not today, your crazy if you pay $60,000 for a new tacoma. One of my coworkers here in Bakersfield had an overheating transmission lol. They cant take temperatures over 100 degrees.
I Donno. To me that jeep was making it look easy….but all did good… good vid
Wow! Just came back from an offroad trip and camp out with a group of friends here in California through Big Bear, down Rattlesnake Canyon to Johnson Valley, through the high desert and then to Cleghorn 4x4 trail. Our boy with his 24 Frontier Pro 4x was struggling BAD on these tight, exposed and endless trails and switch backs. We all found out just how bad his trucks turning radius and heavy steering is on the trails, and we had to save his truck more than once using straps and even one of our winches so he wouldn't get it stuck or die. We were so glad it wasn't heavily modified or else, who TF knows how much worse it would have been with a lift, larger tires and more weight and such. It was the only truck that we had to stop for regularly and get out and guide, just so he could make a simple switch back. 🤦🏾♂️ He's only had it for a month and after his ordeal this past long 4th of July pre weekend, he already made up his mind and is going back to a 3rd gen Tacoma lol! He literally traded his 19 Tacoma TRD pro for it and is now kicking himself for doing so. Long story short: the frontier is not trail friendly and I would recommend that you NEVER go solo on some isolated and potentially dangerous or advanced trails. I go solo on my Taco all the time with my kids and lady, but wouldn't do the same on a frontier. I guess I love my family too much. Also, he tore the F out of the back sides of the rear seat back rests folded down, since they are lined with weak cloth, after putting his fridge and some other materials that he would carry on his Tacoma for the trip lol! How TF you don't line them with hard materials like the Taco and other trucks?
thanks for watching buddy and thanks for the comment. I will say it is well known and I will 1000% agree the turning radius on any Frontier at awful, that’s for sure..
I used to drive frontiers off a cargo ship . They were always a pain in the ass because the turning radius was so bad compared to the other vehicles . The ship has very tight turns to get onto the ramps to exit . I would’ve figured the newer frontiers had a better turn radius
Those sounds that the Toyota make when the ATRAC system starts to work make me feel unease. It sounds like it’s shocks the front differential system.
Yes! Haha. I was like wtf when I first heard it.
ATRAC has been around for 20 years now... it sounds dramatic but it works! These new generations are a bit quieter
booger sugar, i like your truck u should have introduced yours truck like u did your buddy’s.
That sr5 is probably all a guy need. Great footage!
Yeah, maybe I should. I have a ton of videos on this channel of my truck so I always assume people know about my truck. So I tend to overlook that.
Impressive performance. Taco's ATRAC seems much improved.
The fact that you can get Pro-4X in my area for less $$ than an SR5 still makes the Frontier a better buy.
Use the remainder for boog sug.
That's a plan, if I ever heard one 😂
“Taco” sounds gay…but, hey, it’s a free country 😏
Pucker Factor Warning (PFW) at 8:10 mark!
Yeah she got a little spicy 😂
Nissan was more exciting to watch,but the taco did really good and gladiator also.👍
Nice video, but I must've missed the part where your Frontier gets destroyed! The Tacoma is certainly a very capable machine, but I am a Nissan truck man for life- have had six of them, and am shopping around for the right Xterra Pro-4X right now.
P.S.- there's a typo in your intro header- "waht".
its click bait nothing more
@@jonathanmiller3613 I thought that might also be the case. But- whatever works for the views, I guess!
I think it did much better than my truck. I lifted tires on almost every obstacle, and the Tacoma hardly lifted any.
It definitely did way better than my truck. I had tires 3 or 4 foot in the air in the Tacoma barely lifted a tire.
@@4wdAdventurz-LOL! You say that like it's a bad thing!
Don’t mess with the “booger sugar”. Lol
😂😂😂
I gotta say If you want better suspension performance, I would look into a titan swap. My 16 became a different truck when I did it. Turning circle gets tighter too.
Jeep made it look EASY
Hardbody karate!
Drove a new frontier for a week on vacation and thought it hadn't been updated since year 2015 or 2016
The exteriors I think look great. The interiors, however, definitely lack imagination.
Obligatory booger sugar. Also, I don't think that gladiator had his front sway bar disconnected. When I go off road, I take a 19 mm socket and 3/4" wrench with me. With my cordless Ryobi electric rachet, it takes me about 1 minute to disconnect and then zip tie those bad boys up out of the way. Gives way more flex. Hope that Taco lasts. The new ones don't seem super durable (Truck King had a clutch blow, and TFL blew their front diff). Still love the simplicity of a Frontier. Do they make long travel kits for it?
They do. A Titan Swap is a long travel kit..
Toyota will fix the issues. Every company will have them with new manufacturers on new model releases.
They will make the parts even stronger than the competition. Toyota is the largest company.
Good video, thanks. Boogers. What tire is on the Tacoma? Kenda Klevers…I paused just right on the rewatch.
Kevlar AT's
Or somthin like that lol
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More button pushers😅
Frontier pro4x has a 54:1 crawl ratio and the Tacoma trd pro has a 40:1 crawl ratio.
I honestly don’t know what that means, I have a 24 frontier 4x4 and haven’t tested it yet off road.
@@martbrown2775 it’s the ratio of torque at the wheels of your truck at your engines flywheel. This is in 4LO and in this instance it’s really when you’re crawling over an obstacle at a slow speed but getting as much torque to all the wheels as possible. This is also applied for towing. The higher the ratio the better it will perform really.
Guy in the jeep needs to disconnect his front sway bar
Im thinking the rear stabilizer bar could be preventing proper flex on the Nissan's.
That’s true. It’s still hooked up back there..
May be better off road, but the frontier is nicer/better value in every other aspect. I originally wanted a taco...until I drove the frontier
100%
The frontier doesn't do anything better than a Tacoma. Is just a better value. That's it
@@matthewserna7475 yeah I would agree with that.
My only gripe was that the Tacoma was able to fit 35 without modded lift compared to the Frontier D:
Yeah that’s some bullshit 😂😂
They are 285/70 R17 so. Really closer to a 33” tire. My 315/70 17 are 34.5.
What was that sound from the Tacoma on the first obstacle when he gunned it? Was that a tire rubbing the wheel well? Didn't sound good!
Yeah I think it was rubbing a little
Where are you guys wheeling at
Citrus WMA
Booger Sugar!
$39,000 for a base SR5??? Wow. But it didnt break like was seen in a couple other vids from other channels.
Only 2 broke out of 54,000 produced. People need to stop being so dramatic over a .00000081% failure rate.
In a year, nobody will ever talk about it. Toyota will be king again.
Nissan has their issues. GM has them. Ford has them. They all do. Especially when you take them off road. Things do break.
@ryanb8736 2 broke of the very few filned on CZcams videos.
A very HIGH %.
Do you really think none of the other 1000s on the road haven't broke?
Really?
@@whodey59 Only reports we have from corporate and dealer networks are a few transmission temperatures are running a little hot. So corporate has the team on it to replace the transmission coolers with big ones.
Everyone is blowing it way out of proportion. It happens all the time in the beginning on new models. In a year, nobody will remember it. That’s how online culture is. It’s all a fad.
Also the ones to keep complaining are the one who won’t even buy one anyway. It’s their way of having satisfaction because they can’t afford it.
One of the main reasons I wanted to make a video like this..I feel like there were getting a bad rap. Had to see it myself..
Seems like that Frontier has an issue with front end articulation. Need to disconnect the front sway bar and possibly add a larger rear sway bar to push more of the work onto the front end.
Rough country is the issue.
@@user-nt2bm9ms1c Maybe partially. IDK how their shocks are setup in the front.
@@Jay-me7gw Hundo p the issue. Basically stock travel which sucks on the Nissan front End. Really should titan swap it and it’ll be a whole new truck.
@@user-nt2bm9ms1c Woof, yeah, I just looked it up and it sounds like they only have 6" of wheel travel stock!? My GX460 had 8 stock and was around 9 with extended travel coilovers.
I think these new TNGA-F Toyota's are getting 9ish inches of front travel stock
@@Jay-me7gw lucky to get 6 out of stock Nissan/rc. Geometry sucks. Tswap changes the game and gets you up in the 9-10 pretty easily. Toyota focuses more on the offroad stuff so it wouldn’t surprise me.
Still waiting to see the Tacoma outperform the Frontier....not seeing it. They all did fine, so what's the problem?
The articulation of the suspension was far better then the Nissan's. That's it really. It didn't do anything the Nissan couldn't do, just made it look a bit easier..
@4wdAdventurz well yea, more articulation is always nice but I wouldn't call it outperforming. Still a great video though.
booger sugar? LOL
Is this richloam?
No, this is Citrus WMA
What did the Toyota driver mean when he said he installed a rear dif breather in case it gets wet? Shouldn’t that be factory. Isn’t it just a small rubber hose routed up under the hood?
The factory one is right on top of the diff. I extended it up to my rear taillight.
Yes. This also common among the frontier guys.
I hope for his sake I'm wrong but the way things are looking he should have stayed with the 3rd gen or gotten a frontier.
You might be right
@@4wdAdventurz I thought originally it was just insanity why they were offering what they were for used tacoma's compared to the 24s but now I'm thinking it's strategy to push them out as quickly as possible before 100% of the issues are common knowledge. Trust me I would have done the same thing if I had one and they offered me a crazy deal like that but not now with engines 💩 out.
@@johnnyreb1475 yeah I’m curious how these trucks are doing after 3-5yrs. What other issues come out…
Yea I've seen the manual transmission go and the front diff blow on the taco 4th gens now.
@@thedude828-ed2nnyou saw two videos… as did everyone else! Two CZcamsrs break their trucks and now every new taco is a piece of trash! Y’all need to relax. The one guy money shifted his clutch into oblivion and the TFL truck was a one off freak event (per their own disclosure). Mine’s a MT, so no terrain mode select BS to worry about on my end 😂. Truck has been awesome so far, and it cost less than my gen 3 did! The forums show no indication of mass problems whatsoever. The internet loves to collectively hyperventilate. More power, better fuel economy, and it actually sounds better than the old v6 too 😂.
Do you think the stock suspension would have had more flex than your Rough Country lift Booger Sugar?
Maybe a hair…
I have Pro4x, always hard to stomach when a Taco does something better. Not sure why I care, I love my mine, Love your content, keep it coming!
@@kallankawI got a sv with a m226 rear locked and Bilstein 5100s kit from ado with uca's and there isn't much tacos can do better than mine.
@@thedude828-ed2nn You get better flex range from the 5100? I have the ADO 2" lift with 5100s but haven't taken it out yet. FYI, In no way regretting my Frontier, just making a statement about how my brain will get trapped in the Ford vs Chevy / Taco vs Frontier etc. It doesn't matter really, but I do it anyways sometimes. Guess I just need another cup of coffee Ha!
was Gabes Tacoma 2wd or 4?
4x4
Good thing you guys weren't going through bumper high mud holes. That Taco gets stuck in bumper high water, good luck getting to the recovery hooks buried under the bumper. They're not really recovery hooks. Two square plates with a hole in the middle. It's great being a Frontier fanboy these days. 😂
Hahaha. Hasn’t been enough rain out here. Hopefully we get it buried next time 😂
Looks like a fun time for some booger sugar!
Ayeee.. 😂
Booooger suuuuuugaarrrr
I call bullshit on the 39K for a 4th gen 4wd
🤷🏼♂️ thats what dude said ..
There no way it was 39K before the trade in. Dude it straight up lying.
39K after the trade in for 9K and that was before taxes etc was probably the real story.
The dudes talking out his arse mate..
@@jc6618 hahaha🤷🏼♂️ maybe
You can get discounts on them. Plus free extended warranty.
wait yours didnt break? Hmmmmm!
😂😂😂
He took a another line down than you did booger sugar.
Yeah he definitely did..
Watch those axels and your transmission 😂. New ones are not over engineered like Toyotas in the past.
😂😂 they don’t have a great track record, do they.
Sugar daddy 😂😂😂
Boog shoog!
Holy hell, that taco tore it up better have an good stock capabilities at that price
I was shocked. Both of us had open diff and he didn’t even lift the tire. Meanwhile mine are 4ft in the air
Booger Sugar
How did he get a new Taco for 39 grand? Booger sugar
So, apparently one of his regular customers (he’s a bartender) worked at dealer and that he would hook him up with a good deal on a new taco..🤷🏼♂️
now take it against a stock canyon at4x
Well, then it would have to be a stock TRD Pro.
Your to heavy for Tacoma go get. A another like Colorado!
The Tacoma did the Best!
Booger sugar!
Booger sugar 😂
Blog sugar
Ur truck isn’t the pro4x so not a fair comparison
Why not? Open diff 4x4 to an open diff 4x4..
The Toyota TRD must have the Front Sway Bar disconnect option. No way! Here is a video of it with the disconnect vs ranger and Colorado. czcams.com/video/1hmy3ArReB4/video.html Meaning simply the Toyota cheated. You might say it's stock, but with an option. Well, it's
Not exactly stock with upgraded factory options.
Maybe. It did amazingly well if the sway bars were not connected
Boogersugar
Jokes on them, they won't have a transmission in 2 weeks :). Hopefully they don't get that problem but with the way these new Toyotas are, I would definitely keep an eye out.
booga suga
that engine sound from the Tacoma is struggling dem
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Booger sugar
The problem is tacoma are having major problems
Yeah. I’m definitely seeing more bad than good about this new gen. We’ll see how it’s doin after a year or two..I’d like to get a long term follow up video, if I can.
What major problems?
BS. You took the rage bait.
@@ejshelby5460 Dumbasses are freaking out because there have been like 5 or 6 reported cases of their transmissions blowing out. Which more than likely is due to people NOT following the 1000 mile engine break in period guidelines which is crucial for any brand new car.
What major problems?
Boogers in my oatmeal sugar.
😂😂
Sugboog
booger sugar lol
Booger sugar lol
Couldn’t give me a new Tacoma over my 24 Frontier. I don’t run my vehicles this way at this point in my life. I’d be dead and buried before I’d own a four cylinder turbo midsize truck.
If it was a v12 instead but with half the power would that be better? Don't see the issue with the engine besides gloating to your buddies "oh yeah she's a v8 hehe" if it makes the same to even more power with better metrics overall
Nobody is giving you a 4th gen Tacoma or 3rd gen. Lol. Enjoy your Nissan.
Idk why all the hate on Toyota from you when all they are doing is slowly complying with government regulations set forth for all automakers, just as other brands have already done and are still doing. All new iterations of all midsize trucks in the USA will be going to turbo 4(or other, i.e., diesels, hybrids and even EVs)due to tighter emission and fuel consumption regulations(most already are and/or are no longer V6 powered) . This includes Nissan, after they move from this current generation Frontier to the next. Just like the 3rd gen Taco and current 4runner, it will be the last of its kind, so all your sh*t talking towards the new Taco is for nothing. Most full size trucks are already following that path as well, and are discontinuing their respective v8 powerplants. This Nissan is nothing special and already pretty dated. Not a bad truck at all, just like a 3rd gen Tacoma is also not bad at all.
But it's made in Mexico, every truck owner's dream
@@chibbyylol what are you? 16? Maybe read up on these new powertrains and educate yourself before making such a moronic statement. Better yet…. YOU go buy a brand new 2024 Tacoma TRD Pro and we can sit back and laugh!
booger sugar
Lol how much toyota pay you to say that?
😯😯 hahahaha. Alot, dude..
That taco sounds horrible! Does it have an aftermarket exhaust or is that just the way they sound now?
Yeah that’s just how they sound now😳
Clicked it just to dislike😊. Front axle and transmission has left the chat.
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