I know this is a longer one, I added video chapters to get to the topics you care about. Throw down in the comments if your a die hard manual fan or love the speed of the new automatics.
I have a question, on my drive home after buying my SS1LE I noticed that a couple of times on the highway I noticed I SWITCHED drive modes because my have was resting close you that area.. Have you or anybody else ever said anything about that?
I have a MANUAL and Soo glad I decided to do this as my MID LIFE CRISIS CAR. But currently have blue balls because I'm in Houston. Bought my car on Friday from Dallas, drove it home and haven't touched it because of A SNOW STORM, POWER OUTAGES.. can't wait to rip this thing up!!
Great choice.. I test drove the automatic and didn't feel the power I finally understood what the hoopla.. was about.. now so if yiu punch it in first an a drag race or strait shot it goes... and just sit back relax you moving.. I get that.. ok! But in a manual you can drop that gear or gears and you feel that same puch an any gear with more control.. I think for that kind of driving you have to work more in the automatic..!
We are extremely fortunate souls to be able to walk into dealers showroom and purchase off the shelf manual transmission cars at it’s perfection right before they become extinct...we are at the end of an era.
Maybe? Haha I hope so too man. But the fact that your wanting a manual at your age shows there is still future demand and we need more of that. Good luck work hard man
I've actually converted like 4 of my buddies into manual drivers. One buddy bought a new 07 GT500 6spd man, he still has it. Another friend bought a 16 GT350 6spd man, the other 2 guys were twins, they both bought 2018 2SS Camaros, both M6. They were all auto guys and didn't even know how to drive a manual. At the time I had a 03 Z06 and taught all of them in that vette!
I just traded in my 6speed 1SS to a 19 2SS auto and have zero regrets. Both are great in their own way. The auto definitely feels faster but I felt more in control in the manual. This auto is something else though!
Just bought a manual SS stalled a few times on the way home but day 3 and I feel really comfortable. Definitely worth learning. I’m glad I got a manual v8 while I still could. I encourage everyone to do the same
I agree with you 100%. I just bought a 2021 v6 Camaro and I opted for a manual trans. I hadn’t driven one for over 20 years. But, it came back to me in no time and I love it. 335 HP V6, what an awesome car.
The pulls are hard and don't stop. Also once you have remote start, u don't wanna go back. Manuals can't come with remote start on the keyfob because the clutch might be engaged and the stik might be in gear.
This should be an ad for the Camaro and a public service ad for manuals in general!! It makes me sad that manuals are so hard to find lately. I've had manuals for most of my driving career and it took so long to find the right one now. Coming from mostly 4 cyl turbos, my new manual SS is the most fun car I've ever had!
My first car was a stick shift K car when I was 16. I enjoyed driving it and it made a huge difference in power to the wheels compared to other crappy 80s cars. Years later I worked as a truck driver and shifted through 13 speeds with no sync. I'm older now and enjoy the comfort of drinking a coffee while driving. This is why I paid extra for the auto in the 22 LT1.
The new manual camaros also have this gate lock for when you’re down shifting so if the gear is too low for your speed it’ll resist letting shift into that gear
@@zl1David i don’t think anyone with a manual would race a automatic mustang. If yo have a manual you deserve to only race people who actually drive their car.
I am very happy I found this video. I am ordering mine custom from Chevy, but it is not a V-8. I enjoy the V-6 for various reasons. I do believe this may be the last time we can get a manual transmission sports car. The world is changing to electric cars. Get these while you can. Do not take them for granted. I’ll give them another two years, maybe.. Thanks for supporting us manual drivers out there who truly appreciate the fun of driving. Great video!
Agreed man. No problems with the v6 I like those too and probably smarter way to go financially. Manuals are the more rare and more fun cars. Appreciate the good words 🤜🤛
@@Hot-1LE , if I were doing what you are doing in this video, I would love to drive a V8. I love that sound. However, in regular day-to-day life, the V8 will cost more with insurance, gas and taxes. It would also be more likely to get stolen. So that is why I choose a V6. I think I am only sacrificing the sound, a little. But the power is still there to have fun. I really think that the automatic makes sense, as you say, if there are some handicaps you have to deal with. Otherwise, why buy a Camaro if you are not getting a manual? There are plenty of other cars out there if you like automatic. The Camaro is designed as a manual experience. It is a true driver's car. I feel like you are cheating if you don't get a manual. Again, great video!!
Modern automatics have a lock-up clutch torque converter which provides direct drive like a manual transmission clutch,. The Camaro A10 automatic torque converter clutch can engage in any gear other than first and is almost always engaged once moving. Also, the A10 is capable of shifting without disengaging the lock-up clutch, unlike a manual where you have to clutch in to shift. Not saying one is better than the other, but the automatic in the Camaro is nothing like automatics of the past and is capable of shifting faster than a Porsche PDK.
So many pros and cons on both sides. After driving auto Camrys for many years, I retired to a rural area with no bad traffic, I had to go manual for the fun factor. Any time there was a slip up, it’s always been my driver error! Good info here; had no idea re. power delivery with a manual. Thanks for logical insight, I’m sure the debate will continue! 👍👍
People think I’m lying when I say the manual M6 makes more horsepower than the auto... I never said it was quicker but I have my own opinion on that too🤨 Great video... 💯 but I love my M6❣️
Have my C6 in manual and was worth every penny. Automatic is easier but the fun factor and driving experience just isn't there. Besides who am I racing? I personally am always trying to improve my driving skills. Good to hear your pros and cons brother! LT-1 is a great engine so hard to go wrong either way 😁
Great video. To me, an automatic transmission isn't bad at all either just because it's an automatic. It depends on the car and its character, the transmission quality and if it's needed because of physical disadvantages e.g. The only transmission I don't like in the long run is a DSG/PDK because they're going to crack sooner or later after being fun when new. Concerning a Camaro V8 or Mustang V8 I'd always prefer the manual over the automatic for quite a few reasons even though the both of them have a great modern 10-gear automatic transmission: 1) It is so freaking rare these days to get a new V8 with a manual transmission - you'll probably end up with a Camaro or Mustang. 2) A V8 with a manual is pretty soon going to be a rarity and much searched after in my opinion. Makes the car choice a choice of cult. By the way…isn’t a muscle car meant to be manual in its basic sense of existence?! 3) I love the auto revv matching function - makes shifting so much more fun and enjoyable, makes everyone think you’re a a fantastic driver, too, even when being brand new to manuals. 4) Six gears really are enough - the automatics with more gears are shifting all of the time even when it's definitely not required and this is totally annoying to me. 5) What's the point in using paddle shifts when having an automatic? - I won't get it in my whole lifetime, just get a manual then. 6) The connection between me as the driver and the car as my instrument is way more intense - and going all the way up in revvs is way more fun in a manual. 7) Makes me feel younger :). 8) I'd rather fill up my gas tank with the money I'm about to save and have driving pleasure for a lot of clicks. Well, concerning the downsides for me are a few for sure: a) "Sacrificing" the remote start feature - it wouldn't be that much of a problem to me even if it's cool having it. b) Having a bit longer shifts shouldn’t also be an issue when mostly driving on public roads. c) When getting stuck in a traffic jam that’s taking quarters or hours of stop and go would be most annoying to me with time. And when you consider taking a race ride on a track, you'll probably feel more at one with your vehicle in a manual and have much more of an intense experience than being in an automatic/DSG/PDK type of car. Only thing I really consider the best fit when driving in a manual is a manual hand brake because of personally managing brake and clutch - the Mustang has still got one (but could be more conveniently engineered - look at the German/Japanese cars), the Camaro doesn’t. In the end though, I would rather take the manual in a car like these and swallow this bitter pill rather than missing the joy of a manual V8 muscle car.
Just ordered a 2SS 1LE with a manual. Second go around with a Camaro. I had a manual 2014 5th Gen SS and loved it. Can’t wait to get my new ride. Nice video btw bud!! 👍
I have a 15’ SS Auto & I just leaned how to drive manual this past weekend. I drove my cousins manual 18’ 1ss. Let me just say I loved it, it feels a lot more enjoyable and connected with the car. You actually have to think of what you need to do 🤣 Might trade my 5th gen for a manual
Thanks Bro!, I always been a auto driver of a 2012 Camaro SS and 2014 Camaro RS but I just recently bought a manual 2016 Camaro SS and it’s loads of fun to drive everyday learning it and getting that original muscle car feel I’ve always wanted but I had small doubts about would I continue to love a manual but after watching this I think I definitely made the right choice!! Great content👍
Hell ya man! 💪 I had a really hard time going back to an auto after driving manual for years. it didnt last long about two years and I had to be in a manual going forward. Enjoy your beast man
I'm in a 2018 SS 6 speed manual, and I wouldn't have it any other way. The fun factor and the feeling of driving the car so far exceeds an automatic for me. My opinion only. The only down side to a manual for me is, when in bumper to bumper it's frustrating going from 1st to neutral, repeatedly. That aside, the pros largely outweigh the cons.
The M6 does have a creep mode, where if you are in 1st, you can gently let out the clutch and it will automatically keep the revs up and move the car forward without touching the gas. Takes some getting used to because you think it will stall, but it doesn't.
@@nigel_white that sounds like an awesome feature! So if you're in traffic you can basically just keep eating up the clutch? That takes away half the work. Thanks for the scoop brother!!
You literally make all the points I have when it comes to this car... my 2016 was my first manual. I learned how to drive it and so glad I did. Love your videos man.
I really appreciate the support bro. I respect the heck outta someone that would get a manual in this age. So many people are afraid of it or have some other excuse. To the core your an enthusiast and you got the right car bro 💪💪
Just grabbed my SS with a 6-speed manual, thank you for this video, very informative. I learned a lot thank you. Still breaking her in and wearing summer Tires so I have been taking it easy this whole time. Looking forward to what Chevy describes as some "spirited" driving this spring (with due regard of course).
I’m a huge manual fan, I drove semi’s for 30 years. Have a 2020 SS manual w/ 605 wheel hp and I also have a 2021 ZL1 auto which is pretty much bone stock with the exception of tires, for now. The ZL1 is my road course track rat car and myself and many others have proven repeatedly that it’s far quicker around the track than the manual ZL1’s. Any time you have comparable powered Camaros with auto and manual and the manual is faster, the person in the auto just can’t drive. I’ve kept my manual SS just for the fun factor, but when you want to win…. Auto!! and I don’t care if it’s drag racing or road course. As for the 20 hp loss at the wheels, that equates to about 1/1000’s of a second loss in the 1/4 mile which is all gained back and then some with the far quicker shifts of the auto. Then there’s adding hp. My manual with almost 700 hp at the flywheel required a Monster Triple disc clutch. The manual trans itself is crazy strong but the clutch is just okay-ish. The 10 spd requires nothing up to 850 hp and past that you’re looking at doing a clutch pack and turning up the line pressure. End of the day, manual just for fun ( why I kept mine) and 10 spd if you’re looking for fast. My future wants is the no lift up shift trans from the Cadillac CT5 Blackwing in my Camaro, that just might be a game changer but I highly doubt that swap is viable.
Damm good video ! Drove a stick shift for a long time, I got lazy and wanted an automatic. But your video reminded me of how much more fun a manual really is. Thank you again excellent job !!
Thanks so much. I did the auto at one time to and went back to a manual. Idk why but I feel so bored without it even in a 400hp car. Dosnt make the auto bad just didint feel the same
I've had a few manual transmissions..they are fun. But you have a daily driver you get the best of both worlds. You still get the power but save money in traffic and work commute. I agree..just get the car that's right for you and enjoy it.
Yeah I had the 17’ 1LE 6spd with two jobs. Average speed in city was like 32 mph. So annoying with that in stop go traffic. I want to buy another one and might go 10spd for city driving. I want to drive the car every day lol
It's manual all the way for me, I totally agree with you on the "no lift shift". It feels like I'm taking part in a mass parts migration, it just feels wrong. It wasn't so bad on my SS, but on the ZL1, I only did it once, and never again...
Auto doesn't feel like you're in charge. It feels like dead inside. With manual, it just feels right! You're active and aware of the surroundings. I don't know it's just me!
I have not watched this yet just started but im going to say. Automatic 10 speed. NEVER the Chevy 8 Speed. Auto 10, faster, will be better on gas, better for racing and daily, handles more power and allows for quite a bit of leg room in that regard. Overall the A10 is a significantly better trans than the M6. It also holds a better resale value. Manual is for the people that love manuals. It's a dying breed for a reason and it's people holding onto either nostalgia or just what they like. It's a matter of form + function over what makes you feel good and at the end of the day if you are looking at a Camaro pick what makes you feel good.
For me it depends where I am driving and my mood. For instance I was a car porter for Ford. We would drive from Dearborn to Flat Rock. Driving behind other manual drivers, I didn't like at all! One my own I love a manual transmission! I don't have leg, or foot problems so I am good.
Manual Manual Manual! No other options. Funniest thing to me is seeing a super bad ass Vette (Z06/ZR1) then looking inside and seeing an Auto. Makes me go Limp!
Wow! The voice-over on the racing actually was really calm and engaging as a video!!! Thank you for the great video and information also! For 2021, would you recommend a LT1 or 1SS for a base V8? If all you care is about the best driving experience, looks/aesthetics and don't care about assistance tech/interior tech packages at all?
Thanks so much for the compliments. If you don't care about any tech or interior bits then the lt1 is a great bang for the buck. It's a very raw sports car. I think the only loss here is the inability to get the magnetic ride control which you could get on a 1ss. Of course that moves the cost up a little more and if that's not in your interest then the lt1 will fit your needs. Still.handles really well, it's fast, sounds awesome and most people wouldn't even know the difference. (Not that it matters). I really appreciate the support.
@@Hot-1LE Great! Thanks so much. That is true. Just need the basics, functionality and little bit of looks, which 1SS imo has the more aesthetic grille. But it may not be worth the cost in the end if the exterior is just going to be black hehe.
When I brought my rebuilder 69camaro in 96 my 1 stipulation was it had to be a manual that got killed earlier this year i replaced it with a 2010 SS/RS and looking into them a manual was the only way to go no dod more horsepower and to be a muscle car it should be a manual.I wouldn’t wont one if i was stuck in traffic a lot which isn’t a problem here.hi from New Zealand 🇳🇿 loving manual Camaros since 96
How are manual v8 Camaros in hilly snow prone areas? A few people I’ve talked have said I should get an auto LT (v6) or an auto v8 due to snow and hills. Also what years does this video apply to?
@@CT-5736-Bladez all years. Manual is fine it actually has a ice/snow mode that adjusts throttle input and adjusts the traction control specifically for that scenario.
I get 27 miles to the gallon at 80 mpg. Combined is 23 mpg. 2023 Camaro 2SS 10 speed auto. I have no problem breaking wheels free. Auto is faster 1/4 mile times, gets better gas mileage and has paddle shift for a manual action. No missed or wrong shifts. Auto is best for all around performance.
@@Hot-1LE and for the record just bought my 2020 1ss 1LE last week and had to get the manual. Watched many of your videos before making up my mind, I found them very helpful.
Nice video as always bro. Glad to see you still have the beast. Love driving my manual GT PP2. Grew up learning to drive a manual. A lot of smack upside the head from mom, while learning though. lol
It’s not a lot of button work for the auto it’s super simple break and hold the down shift lever and the car will automatically put it into its lowest gear for the speed
Hill Start and Rev Match are wonderful features. Combined with actually using first to 4th CAGS. It's the lazy mans manual! Do it for Dale! Get the manual folks!
There is nothing in the world like dropping the clutch and punching the gas on a V8 stick shift. If I had a job that required a bumper to bumper stop and go commute every day I would buy an automatic but until then I will only be driving manuals.
Glad to hear that man thank you much. This time its mounted on the driver window which is what makes it hard for my body positioning while driving haha
Used to have a Ford Bronco II with a 5-speed. I got into the habit of using the clutch only for stopping or getting into 1st gear..I'd then "float" the rest of the gears by controlling RPMs. Probably bad for the trans. I do miss driving standard transmissions. Eyeballing the SS with that 6-speed now and may just pull that trigger this year. Great vid! Thanks.
I shifted gears for years and now these auto transmissions are so much better than any manual. What about the cost to replace clutches? No mention of that. I’m in then,arrest for my second Camaro and it’s going to be an auto. These 10 speeds are fun and I can switch to manual anytime I want so best of both worlds.
Great video and explanation. Any recommendations on a good vehicle to learn a manual on? I'm looking to buy a cheap manual car and use that to determine if my 6th gen will be an automatic or manual. I had a manual 02 Maxima SE about 15 years ago for a few months and learned some basics but never got very good.
Just go got it man get the manual. See if you have a friend that can help you learn it. Pretty easy cars to learn on. Any economy beater will give you the the idea though
I remember the first time learning how 2 drive stick shift. I had 2 trucks 🚚 with manual transmissions 💯. After them I really didn't want a car with an automatic transmission 💯. To this day I still think about a 🚗 with a manual transmission 💯. I had the opportunity 2 drive a 6 banger camaro 💯. Even if it was 8 cylinder, I would have still been turned off 💯💯. Only time I really dont want a manual transmission, is when I'm not up 2 driving physically 💯
The individual gears on the manual are very tall and 5th and 6rh are od gears. How does it feel for general acceleration? I currently drive the 10 speed auto in a Mustang GT PP1 but after 3 years I'm really missing a manual and going through the gears. How does the Tremec transmission feel? The only way to get a Tremec manual on the Mustang is either the GT350 or Mach 1. The manual in the GT is a Getreg MT82 which doesn't have a great reputation.
Despite the long gearing it accelerates hard with good low end torque. 0-53mph in first gear. The trans itself is very good, good clean shifts, handles high RPM well (unlike the mt82). The clutch could be better but that's not the transmissions fault. I totally understand the desire to go back to manual. I just get bored with autos haha.
@@Hot-1LE Thanks for the detailed reply! There are literally no 2021 Camaro's in manual where I live so I would either have to find a used one on a dealer lot to try out or order a 2022 without test driving it 🤔
Not with modern automatics with lock-up clutch torque converters. The converter in the Camaro 10 speed auto can lock up in any gear other than first, and is almost always engaged once moving. So no more fluid coupling losses like in early automatics.
Question? What is faster? Just didn't feel the torque in the automatic maby I don't know how to drove automatic? Lol since I know how to drive manual.. I guess the right driver the 10speed is or could be faster.. ?? I don't really know? 😕
These are good transmissions manual or auto and the clutch holds a ton of power. Both are great in that respect and you shouldn't expect any early repairs
I have a manual 1le and love grabbing gears, but like you mentioned I will be having a surgery on my left foot soon, so I thankfully have a DSG GTI for my daily driver
@@Hot-1LE I remember you mentioning that might be a consideration for you, in another video. That’s why I commented, truly am blessed that I have both ✔️👍
Going back to the gen4 93to02 Camaro's the manuals were much stronger in them from the factory. Just something else to look in to. Some manuals are just built better than some autos and vice versa. Something to look into for your specific car.
NLS doesn't add any more clutch wear. I talked to a GM drive train engineer last year at an event. Thats actually why the logic is in there. To make powershifts better for the drivetrain.
Sorry if I missed this, but what trim is the model you’re driving? Very nice and enjoyed the vid! I’m looking to buy a 2021 LT2 manual trans V6 in a few weeks. Appreciate it!
Yes you don't feel the punch in the automatic like a manual... and you have to double down shifts or even 3 down to chirp the tires in third gear.. that sucks. And if you don't drive a manual then forget it you don't understand lol...
I know this is a longer one, I added video chapters to get to the topics you care about. Throw down in the comments if your a die hard manual fan or love the speed of the new automatics.
I have a question, on my drive home after buying my SS1LE I noticed that a couple of times on the highway I noticed I SWITCHED drive modes because my have was resting close you that area.. Have you or anybody else ever said anything about that?
Oh ya that happens. That button isn't in a good place. You'll get better about it won't happen near as much.
I’ve changed modes a few times because I rest my hand there. Thought it was just me!
What tires are you running?
Stock good year super car 3. On my 3rd set. Mit pick michelins next
I have a MANUAL and Soo glad I decided to do this as my MID LIFE CRISIS CAR. But currently have blue balls because I'm in Houston. Bought my car on Friday from Dallas, drove it home and haven't touched it because of A SNOW STORM, POWER OUTAGES.. can't wait to rip this thing up!!
Good choice! Sorry to hear all that's going on in texas man I hope you and your fam are doing ok. Stay warm!
Great choice.. I test drove the automatic and didn't feel the power I finally understood what the hoopla.. was about.. now so if yiu punch it in first an a drag race or strait shot it goes... and just sit back relax you moving.. I get that.. ok! But in a manual you can drop that gear or gears and you feel that same puch an any gear with more control.. I think for that kind of driving you have to work more in the automatic..!
What part of Houston? And have you done anything that makes it stand out in the slight chance i see your Camaro.
@@Aviation-xl2em 290/Hwy6 area(NW Houston). It's just a white SS1LE. NOTHING special on the outside yet. Borla CBE. 1LE emblems
We are extremely fortunate souls to be able to walk into dealers showroom and purchase off the shelf manual transmission cars at it’s perfection right before they become extinct...we are at the end of an era.
A ton of people dont even known how lucky they are right in this moment. Years from now the opportunity will be gone.
Age of the Samurai.
It really is a damn shame, these damn golf carts and automatic transmissions ain't no fun
@@Hot-1LE I’m currently almost 20 and would like to get a 2018 ZL1 6 speed, hopefully the manuals still have another 10 or so years but we’ll see
Maybe? Haha I hope so too man. But the fact that your wanting a manual at your age shows there is still future demand and we need more of that. Good luck work hard man
I've actually converted like 4 of my buddies into manual drivers. One buddy bought a new 07 GT500 6spd man, he still has it. Another friend bought a 16 GT350 6spd man, the other 2 guys were twins, they both bought 2018 2SS Camaros, both M6. They were all auto guys and didn't even know how to drive a manual. At the time I had a 03 Z06 and taught all of them in that vette!
Good man! Keep spreading the wisdom man, we got to let everyone that loves cars a taste for the manuals.
I just traded in my 6speed 1SS to a 19 2SS auto and have zero regrets. Both are great in their own way. The auto definitely feels faster but I felt more in control in the manual. This auto is something else though!
Nice man! Congrats on the new car. The autos definately are good!
How is your automatic holding up ??
Just bought a manual SS stalled a few times on the way home but day 3 and I feel really comfortable. Definitely worth learning. I’m glad I got a manual v8 while I still could. I encourage everyone to do the same
Hell ya man! Congrats and awesome decisions just jumping in, that's the only way to do it. You'll be rev matching in weeks lol
I agree with you 100%. I just bought a 2021 v6 Camaro and I opted for a manual trans. I hadn’t driven one for over 20 years. But, it came back to me in no time and I love it. 335 HP V6, what an awesome car.
Not a huge fan of cylinder deactivation for long term, having it deactivated on the manual is a great peace of mind imo
Solid point. Just more stuff
Zl1s don’t have it
if you take out the actuators, it will help with keeping all cylinders at all times at least thats what happnend on my car.
I'm a die hard manual guy, but there is something very special about A10 10 speed ZL1, so I bought it
The pulls are hard and don't stop. Also once you have remote start, u don't wanna go back. Manuals can't come with remote start on the keyfob because the clutch might be engaged and the stik might be in gear.
No question about it , lightning fast shifts are to be experienced.
What?
What is so special.. ?
Great video!
That canyon run was exhilarating to watch!
Thanks for posting.
I love my 10 speed Automatic ZL1
That thing must haul some serious ass!!!
Love my10spees auto 2ss
This should be an ad for the Camaro and a public service ad for manuals in general!! It makes me sad that manuals are so hard to find lately. I've had manuals for most of my driving career and it took so long to find the right one now. Coming from mostly 4 cyl turbos, my new manual SS is the most fun car I've ever had!
Bought my manual SS 1LE about a month ago. It's my first manual and I am having a blast with it and learning it coming from a 5th gen auto RS.
Manual crew 💪💪💪
Thanks for the insight, I traded my auto 5th gen in for my 20 1LE manual. So much more fun.
Solid choice, you have seen the light aha
@@Hot-1LE honestly at times I found being in an automatic embarrassing. lol.
@@dannyh5700 haha, my Mustang GT I felt embarrassed to be in an auto. I know that feeling.
@@Hot-1LE - Hey Hot1LE, so you had a Mustang GT. What made you change to a Camaro SS?
Mustang suspensions are floaty n soft. I also had a lot of issues with the Stang so gave chevy a go
My first car was a stick shift K car when I was 16. I enjoyed driving it and it made a huge difference in power to the wheels compared to other crappy 80s cars. Years later I worked as a truck driver and shifted through 13 speeds with no sync. I'm older now and enjoy the comfort of drinking a coffee while driving. This is why I paid extra for the auto in the 22 LT1.
The new manual camaros also have this gate lock for when you’re down shifting so if the gear is too low for your speed it’ll resist letting shift into that gear
Manual is the only option! I don't care how damn fast you auto shifts!
Racing against 'stangs will have them caring.
@@zl1David i don’t think anyone with a manual would race a automatic mustang. If yo have a manual you deserve to only race people who actually drive their car.
Manual 99.9% of the time. Auto in bumper to bumper rush hour traffic
After listening to your Camaro gurgle and pop down the road, I just cannot wait for my 2022 LT1 6-speed to be delivered!
Your going to enjoy it so damn much man. Congrats on the car. My neighbor just got a lt1 and it looks awesome
Im loving my 2017 SS 1LE ! Wouldn’t sell it for anything else !
100%
I love mine two but it's an 2021 AUTO 🦾
I am very happy I found this video.
I am ordering mine custom from Chevy, but it is not a V-8. I enjoy the V-6 for various reasons. I do believe this may be the last time we can get a manual transmission sports car. The world is changing to electric cars. Get these while you can. Do not take them for granted. I’ll give them another two years, maybe..
Thanks for supporting us manual drivers out there who truly appreciate the fun of driving. Great video!
Agreed man. No problems with the v6 I like those too and probably smarter way to go financially. Manuals are the more rare and more fun cars. Appreciate the good words 🤜🤛
@@Hot-1LE , if I were doing what you are doing in this video, I would love to drive a V8. I love that sound. However, in regular day-to-day life, the V8 will cost more with insurance, gas and taxes. It would also be more likely to get stolen. So that is why I choose a V6. I think I am only sacrificing the sound, a little. But the power is still there to have fun.
I really think that the automatic makes sense, as you say, if there are some handicaps you have to deal with. Otherwise, why buy a Camaro if you are not getting a manual? There are plenty of other cars out there if you like automatic. The Camaro is designed as a manual experience. It is a true driver's car. I feel like you are cheating if you don't get a manual.
Again, great video!!
Modern automatics have a lock-up clutch torque converter which provides direct drive like a manual transmission clutch,. The Camaro A10 automatic torque converter clutch can engage in any gear other than first and is almost always engaged once moving. Also, the A10 is capable of shifting without disengaging the lock-up clutch, unlike a manual where you have to clutch in to shift. Not saying one is better than the other, but the automatic in the Camaro is nothing like automatics of the past and is capable of shifting faster than a Porsche PDK.
That's so true 👍
So many pros and cons on both sides. After driving auto Camrys for many years, I retired to a rural area with no bad traffic, I had to go manual for the fun factor. Any time there was a slip up, it’s always been my driver error! Good info here; had no idea re. power delivery with a manual. Thanks for logical insight, I’m sure the debate will continue! 👍👍
Excellent choice man, nothing like rowing those gears, even when going slow its a pleasure.
People think I’m lying when I say the manual M6 makes more horsepower than the auto...
I never said it was quicker but I have my own opinion on that too🤨
Great video... 💯 but I love my M6❣️
2017 2SS 50th 1LE manual! Love it! Don’t care about MPG just in it for the fun!
Have my C6 in manual and was worth every penny. Automatic is easier but the fun factor and driving experience just isn't there. Besides who am I racing? I personally am always trying to improve my driving skills. Good to hear your pros and cons brother! LT-1 is a great engine so hard to go wrong either way 😁
You did right man. The manuals hold their value a little better to. V8 with a manual is glorious
Great video.
To me, an automatic transmission isn't bad at all either just because it's an automatic. It depends on the car and its character, the transmission quality and if it's needed because of physical disadvantages e.g. The only transmission I don't like in the long run is a DSG/PDK because they're going to crack sooner or later after being fun when new. Concerning a Camaro V8 or Mustang V8 I'd always prefer the manual over the automatic for quite a few reasons even though the both of them have a great modern 10-gear automatic transmission:
1) It is so freaking rare these days to get a new V8 with a manual transmission - you'll probably end up with a Camaro or Mustang.
2) A V8 with a manual is pretty soon going to be a rarity and much searched after in my opinion. Makes the car choice a choice of cult. By the way…isn’t a muscle car meant to be manual in its basic sense of existence?!
3) I love the auto revv matching function - makes shifting so much more fun and enjoyable, makes everyone think you’re a a fantastic driver, too, even when being brand new to manuals.
4) Six gears really are enough - the automatics with more gears are shifting all of the time even when it's definitely not required and this is totally annoying to me.
5) What's the point in using paddle shifts when having an automatic? - I won't get it in my whole lifetime, just get a manual then.
6) The connection between me as the driver and the car as my instrument is way more intense - and going all the way up in revvs is way more fun in a manual.
7) Makes me feel younger :).
8) I'd rather fill up my gas tank with the money I'm about to save and have driving pleasure for a lot of clicks.
Well, concerning the downsides for me are a few for sure:
a) "Sacrificing" the remote start feature - it wouldn't be that much of a problem to me even if it's cool having it.
b) Having a bit longer shifts shouldn’t also be an issue when mostly driving on public roads.
c) When getting stuck in a traffic jam that’s taking quarters or hours of stop and go would be most annoying to me with time.
And when you consider taking a race ride on a track, you'll probably feel more at one with your vehicle in a manual and have much more of an intense experience than being in an automatic/DSG/PDK type of car.
Only thing I really consider the best fit when driving in a manual is a manual hand brake because of personally managing brake and clutch - the Mustang has still got one (but could be more conveniently engineered - look at the German/Japanese cars), the Camaro doesn’t. In the end though, I would rather take the manual in a car like these and swallow this bitter pill rather than missing the joy of a manual V8 muscle car.
Man thanks for that in detail comment that's awesome to read. I completely agree 👍👍
Quick question? I want to buy a transmission with 40k mileage on a camaro with 107k is that ok?
Just ordered a 2SS 1LE with a manual. Second go around with a Camaro. I had a manual 2014 5th Gen SS and loved it. Can’t wait to get my new ride. Nice video btw bud!! 👍
You got fine taste in cars bro! Videos too haha appreciate the support man. 👍
Great video, sir. Thank you for taking the time to do it!
Ay thanks man! I really do appreciate the support
I have a 15’ SS Auto & I just leaned how to drive manual this past weekend. I drove my cousins manual 18’ 1ss. Let me just say I loved it, it feels a lot more enjoyable and connected with the car. You actually have to think of what you need to do 🤣 Might trade my 5th gen for a manual
Learned *
glad you got your hands on a manual man, there's nothing quite like it!
@@jorgebelmonte6408 I knew there had to that guy
Thanks Bro!, I always been a auto driver of a 2012 Camaro SS and 2014 Camaro RS but I just recently bought a manual 2016 Camaro SS and it’s loads of fun to drive everyday learning it and getting that original muscle car feel I’ve always wanted but I had small doubts about would I continue to love a manual but after watching this I think I definitely made the right choice!! Great content👍
Hell ya man! 💪 I had a really hard time going back to an auto after driving manual for years. it didnt last long about two years and I had to be in a manual going forward. Enjoy your beast man
I'm in a 2018 SS 6 speed manual, and I wouldn't have it any other way. The fun factor and the feeling of driving the car so far exceeds an automatic for me. My opinion only.
The only down side to a manual for me is, when in bumper to bumper it's frustrating going from 1st to neutral, repeatedly. That aside, the pros largely outweigh the cons.
The M6 does have a creep mode, where if you are in 1st, you can gently let out the clutch and it will automatically keep the revs up and move the car forward without touching the gas. Takes some getting used to because you think it will stall, but it doesn't.
@@nigel_white that sounds like an awesome feature! So if you're in traffic you can basically just keep eating up the clutch? That takes away half the work. Thanks for the scoop brother!!
You literally make all the points I have when it comes to this car... my 2016 was my first manual. I learned how to drive it and so glad I did. Love your videos man.
I really appreciate the support bro. I respect the heck outta someone that would get a manual in this age. So many people are afraid of it or have some other excuse. To the core your an enthusiast and you got the right car bro 💪💪
@@Hot-1LE facts, I appreciate that man. Keep doing what you're doing bro!
Just grabbed my SS with a 6-speed manual, thank you for this video, very informative. I learned a lot thank you. Still breaking her in and wearing summer Tires so I have been taking it easy this whole time. Looking forward to what Chevy describes as some "spirited" driving this spring (with due regard of course).
Enjoy that car man! Congrats appreciate you watching
Banging gears is fun I wish my 6th was a manual. I still love driving the car. The NLS and the Rev match is 🔥🔥🔥.
Yeah can't really go wrong either way, whatever works best for the driver at this point
what’s funny is i was shifting my 1LE while listening to you.🤣 keep it up bro.
😅 that's awesome
I’m a huge manual fan, I drove semi’s for 30 years.
Have a 2020 SS manual w/ 605 wheel hp and I also have a 2021 ZL1 auto which is pretty much bone stock with the exception of tires, for now. The ZL1 is my road course track rat car and myself and many others have proven repeatedly that it’s far quicker around the track than the manual ZL1’s. Any time you have comparable powered Camaros with auto and manual and the manual is faster, the person in the auto just can’t drive.
I’ve kept my manual SS just for the fun factor, but when you want to win…. Auto!! and I don’t care if it’s drag racing or road course.
As for the 20 hp loss at the wheels, that equates to about 1/1000’s of a second loss in the 1/4 mile which is all gained back and then some with the far quicker shifts of the auto.
Then there’s adding hp. My manual with almost 700 hp at the flywheel required a Monster Triple disc clutch. The manual trans itself is crazy strong but the clutch is just okay-ish. The 10 spd requires nothing up to 850 hp and past that you’re looking at doing a clutch pack and turning up the line pressure.
End of the day, manual just for fun ( why I kept mine) and 10 spd if you’re looking for fast.
My future wants is the no lift up shift trans from the Cadillac CT5 Blackwing in my Camaro, that just might be a game changer but I highly doubt that swap is viable.
yes been waiting for new videos man, wooooooo! Manual for sure !!!!
Great content man!
Please don't sell your red beauty. You gotta keep what truly makes you happy
Gots to be a manual for me. 17' Super Sport Camaro 6 on the flo'.
Just a tip when driving. Try not to rest your hand on the shifter especially when driving at high revs. It can wear out the forks overtime 👍🏻
Didn’t know that. Good info.
Damm good video ! Drove a stick shift for a long time, I got lazy and wanted an automatic. But your video reminded me of how much more fun a manual really is.
Thank you again excellent job !!
Thanks so much. I did the auto at one time to and went back to a manual. Idk why but I feel so bored without it even in a 400hp car. Dosnt make the auto bad just didint feel the same
I've had a few manual transmissions..they are fun. But you have a daily driver you get the best of both worlds. You still get the power but save money in traffic and work commute. I agree..just get the car that's right for you and enjoy it.
Yeah I had the 17’ 1LE 6spd with two jobs. Average speed in city was like 32 mph. So annoying with that in stop go traffic. I want to buy another one and might go 10spd for city driving. I want to drive the car every day lol
It's manual all the way for me, I totally agree with you on the "no lift shift". It feels like I'm taking part in a mass parts migration, it just feels wrong. It wasn't so bad on my SS, but on
the ZL1, I only did it once, and never again...
Haha ya the NLS just feels so wrong.
I love my manual challenger. In a year or two I plan to get a 2022 1LE 2SS
Auto doesn't feel like you're in charge. It feels like dead inside. With manual, it just feels right! You're active and aware of the surroundings. I don't know it's just me!
Got to have a manual when get my Lt1
Good man
I have not watched this yet just started but im going to say. Automatic 10 speed. NEVER the Chevy 8 Speed.
Auto 10, faster, will be better on gas, better for racing and daily, handles more power and allows for quite a bit of leg room in that regard. Overall the A10 is a significantly better trans than the M6. It also holds a better resale value.
Manual is for the people that love manuals. It's a dying breed for a reason and it's people holding onto either nostalgia or just what they like. It's a matter of form + function over what makes you feel good and at the end of the day if you are looking at a Camaro pick what makes you feel good.
For me it depends where I am driving and my mood. For instance I was a car porter for Ford. We would drive from Dearborn to Flat Rock. Driving behind other manual drivers, I didn't like at all! One my own I love a manual transmission! I don't have leg, or foot problems so I am good.
Manual Manual Manual!
No other options.
Funniest thing to me is seeing a super bad ass Vette (Z06/ZR1) then looking inside and seeing an Auto. Makes me go Limp!
Lol I feel the same way
Wow! The voice-over on the racing actually was really calm and engaging as a video!!! Thank you for the great video and information also!
For 2021, would you recommend a LT1 or 1SS for a base V8? If all you care is about the best driving experience, looks/aesthetics and don't care about assistance tech/interior tech packages at all?
Thanks so much for the compliments. If you don't care about any tech or interior bits then the lt1 is a great bang for the buck. It's a very raw sports car. I think the only loss here is the inability to get the magnetic ride control which you could get on a 1ss. Of course that moves the cost up a little more and if that's not in your interest then the lt1 will fit your needs. Still.handles really well, it's fast, sounds awesome and most people wouldn't even know the difference. (Not that it matters). I really appreciate the support.
@@Hot-1LE Great! Thanks so much. That is true. Just need the basics, functionality and little bit of looks, which 1SS imo has the more aesthetic grille. But it may not be worth the cost in the end if the exterior is just going to be black hehe.
So wonderful video, I'm loving it. especially drive with nice V8 sounds.
Thank you much!
get the a10 if you wanna go faster, get the manual if you want to have fun.
When I brought my rebuilder 69camaro in 96 my 1 stipulation was it had to be a manual that got killed earlier this year i replaced it with a 2010 SS/RS and looking into them a manual was the only way to go no dod more horsepower and to be a muscle car it should be a manual.I wouldn’t wont one if i was stuck in traffic a lot which isn’t a problem here.hi from New Zealand 🇳🇿 loving manual Camaros since 96
How are manual v8 Camaros in hilly snow prone areas? A few people I’ve talked have said I should get an auto LT (v6) or an auto v8 due to snow and hills.
Also what years does this video apply to?
@@CT-5736-Bladez all years. Manual is fine it actually has a ice/snow mode that adjusts throttle input and adjusts the traction control specifically for that scenario.
im saving up for a camero but im still in the middle of not knowing to get a manual or automatic 🤷🏽♂️
fax , 10spd or 6sp i’ve also never drove a manual but they seem so fun to have
I get 27 miles to the gallon at 80 mpg. Combined is 23 mpg. 2023 Camaro 2SS 10 speed auto. I have no problem breaking wheels free. Auto is faster 1/4 mile times, gets better gas mileage and has paddle shift for a manual action. No missed or wrong shifts. Auto is best for all around performance.
Well done amigo, I enjoyed the video. You had some good insight for those who are curious about which transmission to choose. 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks man, hoping people make the right choice hahah
@@Hot-1LE and for the record just bought my 2020 1ss 1LE last week and had to get the manual. Watched many of your videos before making up my mind, I found them very helpful.
Ay glad to hear that! Manuals the way to go with a 1le.
Loved the video bro. Very informative and explanatory. Keep em coming 👍
Appreciate it bro 💪
I had an automatic 2019 C7. Hated it.
Love my 21 M6 SS 1LE
It’s really just about what kind of experience your looking for.
Yup accurately said. Love my manuals 👍
But overall including the down side of a manual transmission I love it, as long as I have my health 😀
Great point
Nice video as always bro. Glad to see you still have the beast. Love driving my manual GT PP2. Grew up learning to drive a manual. A lot of smack upside the head from mom, while learning though. lol
Haha man the memories we make learning to drive manual is half the fun 😅
Awesome video. I just ordered a new LT1 convertible. I was going back and forth but ended with going with the manual.
You sir made the right decision. Appreciate the support!
Love the video, great work.
Gracias man 💪
It’s not a lot of button work for the auto it’s super simple break and hold the down shift lever and the car will automatically put it into its lowest gear for the speed
Ive driven them in auto cross environments and its too many gears. You dont always want to go to the very lowest gear itll upset the balance.
Can you do a how to drive manual video. Ik how to drive a manual but can you show how to get the car going in first faster? Love your videos bro 💪🏽
This is fantastic, to narrate while doing a run🤙
Thanks man!
Hill Start and Rev Match are wonderful features. Combined with actually using first to 4th CAGS. It's the lazy mans manual! Do it for Dale! Get the manual folks!
Do it for Dale! 😅
There is nothing in the world like dropping the clutch and punching the gas on a V8 stick shift. If I had a job that required a bumper to bumper stop and go commute every day I would buy an automatic but until then I will only be driving manuals.
The full truth right here man. 👍👍
As always great video! You've inspired me to start making videos of my 1le. Where is your camera mounted? I like that angle.
Glad to hear that man thank you much. This time its mounted on the driver window which is what makes it hard for my body positioning while driving haha
Used to have a Ford Bronco II with a 5-speed. I got into the habit of using the clutch only for stopping or getting into 1st gear..I'd then "float" the rest of the gears by controlling RPMs. Probably bad for the trans. I do miss driving standard transmissions. Eyeballing the SS with that 6-speed now and may just pull that trigger this year. Great vid! Thanks.
I really do miss 5 speeds. The camaros 6 speed is great, and fits the car really well. Good luck on your purchase!
Great video man ! Definitely good solid points 🤙🏽
Appreciate it bro
Amazing advice that shouldnt be free.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I'm happy to charge 😅
I shifted gears for years and now these auto transmissions are so much better than any manual. What about the cost to replace clutches? No mention of that. I’m in then,arrest for my second Camaro and it’s going to be an auto. These 10 speeds are fun and I can switch to manual anytime I want so best of both worlds.
Auto all ya gotta do is hold the button it’ll drop to the proper gear ⚙️ with the speed you’re going
Great Video sir. May I ask if the Camaro SS You were driving was stock exhaust?
Or any upgrades to engine? Thanks
Thank you! Borla atak cat back and a rotofab intake.
Manual is the best transmission, man.
Manuals can last longer than automatics.
And so many other reasons also.
I love driving a manual, but Atlanta traffic mandates an automatic.
Can totally understand that man.
Same St. Augustine,Fl...
Too much B to B traffic....
Since I live in a city where it’s constant traffic all the time in Honolulu and I want something to use as a daily too. I’m getting an automatic.
The answer is manual. If you're a manual guy, and you're on the fence (for any reason), get the manual. Don't make the same mistakes as me.
I made that same mistake bro. Facts.
Great video! Thanks!
Great video and explanation. Any recommendations on a good vehicle to learn a manual on? I'm looking to buy a cheap manual car and use that to determine if my 6th gen will be an automatic or manual. I had a manual 02 Maxima SE about 15 years ago for a few months and learned some basics but never got very good.
Just go got it man get the manual. See if you have a friend that can help you learn it. Pretty easy cars to learn on. Any economy beater will give you the the idea though
I remember the first time learning how 2 drive stick shift. I had 2 trucks 🚚 with manual transmissions 💯. After them I really didn't want a car with an automatic transmission 💯. To this day I still think about a 🚗 with a manual transmission 💯. I had the opportunity 2 drive a 6 banger camaro 💯. Even if it was 8 cylinder, I would have still been turned off 💯💯. Only time I really dont want a manual transmission, is when I'm not up 2 driving physically 💯
Haha my first manual was a ford ranger. Since then it's hard to drive a car without one
@@Hot-1LE That was one of my 🚚 💯
The individual gears on the manual are very tall and 5th and 6rh are od gears. How does it feel for general acceleration? I currently drive the 10 speed auto in a Mustang GT PP1 but after 3 years I'm really missing a manual and going through the gears. How does the Tremec transmission feel? The only way to get a Tremec manual on the Mustang is either the GT350 or Mach 1. The manual in the GT is a Getreg MT82 which doesn't have a great reputation.
Despite the long gearing it accelerates hard with good low end torque. 0-53mph in first gear. The trans itself is very good, good clean shifts, handles high RPM well (unlike the mt82). The clutch could be better but that's not the transmissions fault. I totally understand the desire to go back to manual. I just get bored with autos haha.
@@Hot-1LE Thanks for the detailed reply! There are literally no 2021 Camaro's in manual where I live so I would either have to find a used one on a dealer lot to try out or order a 2022 without test driving it 🤔
Test drive a used one, order a new one unless you get some great price on the used one. Or just order it. You won't be dissapointed.
nice video man, thanks for the information
For sure man thanks for watching
You also lose 15-22% of power with an automatic, torque converter..etc..
Wow......that is a significant loss in power.
Not with modern automatics with lock-up clutch torque converters. The converter in the Camaro 10 speed auto can lock up in any gear other than first, and is almost always engaged once moving. So no more fluid coupling losses like in early automatics.
Camaro 2SS and GT 5.0 wich one more better?
I prefer the torque band of the 6.2 on the Camaro over the 5.0.
Question? What is faster? Just didn't feel the torque in the automatic maby I don't know how to drove automatic? Lol since I know how to drive manual.. I guess the right driver the 10speed is or could be faster.. ?? I don't really know? 😕
I mean , which transmission last longer on Average with out repairs .
Clutch replacement, or transmission rebuild?
Just curious .
These are good transmissions manual or auto and the clutch holds a ton of power. Both are great in that respect and you shouldn't expect any early repairs
I have a manual 1le and love grabbing gears, but like you mentioned I will be having a surgery on my left foot soon, so I thankfully have a DSG GTI for my daily driver
Hey that's a cool replacement though!
@@Hot-1LE I remember you mentioning that might be a consideration for you, in another video. That’s why I commented, truly am blessed that I have both ✔️👍
Going back to the gen4 93to02 Camaro's the manuals were much stronger in them from the factory. Just something else to look in to. Some manuals are just built better than some autos and vice versa. Something to look into for your specific car.
I'm getting a 2SS 2020 and I was debating with myself because I had knee surgery a lot from football great advice most definitely getting a auto✌🏿
Good luck man! Yeah if it's going to cause any pain not worth it. You'll love the auto!
@@Hot-1LE thx bro my kids are out of school graduating and off to college it's time for pop's to get a toy 😆
Hahaha I love it dude!
Your exhaust sounds great, is it stock?
Thanks! Borla Atak
Love watching your channel awesome content bro
Ay real cool man ty 🤜🤛
That is one nice car you got there
appreciate it!
I know this is old but where are you guys driving here? what state/city?
Angeles Forest CA
NLS doesn't add any more clutch wear. I talked to a GM drive train engineer last year at an event. Thats actually why the logic is in there. To make powershifts better for the drivetrain.
Sorry if I missed this, but what trim is the model you’re driving? Very nice and enjoyed the vid! I’m looking to buy a 2021 LT2 manual trans V6 in a few weeks. Appreciate it!
Thank you for the support! A manual trans 😍. This is a 1ss 1le. Driving the v6 was what led me to this car. I love the 6s I think you'll def enjoy it
@@Hot-1LE appreciate if! I’m looking forward to it!
Yes you don't feel the punch in the automatic like a manual... and you have to double down shifts or even 3 down to chirp the tires in third gear.. that sucks. And if you don't drive a manual then forget it you don't understand lol...
Yessir 💯💯