@@lokimadmax9227 Oddly enough, the Master and the Joker are so alike. Not wanting to see their archenemies die by the hand of someone else and along the way, cause unimaginable destruction.
🤣 I'll put Delgado first every time, but Ainley will always be a close second, and the Comic Relief Master has got to be way up there. The funniest thing is that all the 'New Who' Masters seem to behave like the Comic Relief one!!
I agree. Well, maybe except for the War Master's. ;) Also, way better than the one in S12, where it's just a random flat with a console. Worst design ever.
I couldn't work out why after all the bother to paint the roundals black, and the columns and the scanner, why use the scanner and the wall by the door to act as a corridor, when it is so clearly not. You would have thought someone would have pointed out during the filming or when they watched it during the editing, but probably someone will try and tell us it was 'cos of time and lack of money and a very short scene, and few would notice during the broadcast. With no worries about repeated viewing. One very interesting thing, from that point on, we saw less and less interior Tardis scenes, so maybe the walls warped after the repainting?
No, let's do, actually. People love to come to classic clips and bitch about the revival out of nowhere, so people coming here to praise it for a change is fair game.
They showed how close that could happen in The End of Time, but the constant drums playing in the Master's head that the Time Lords put there played so much havoc that he couldn't trust anyone. Not even his childhood friend. You are right, though. Those two did have so much potential at working together. It's not meant to be, sadly.
Honestly that's part of the reason why I feel Moffat killed Missy off before we saw this come to fruition. I think people really don't realize that she had become the most dangerous Incarnation of the Master. Not only was she the most experienced and knowledgable (capable of anything previous Incarnations accomplished), but she had started to breakaway from their literal character flaws that had been holding them back. Though I hate we never got to see the character development through and Missy fully stand side by side with the Doctor, I can also see how that would have been a writers nightmare. The Doctor and his only near equal back to back on the same side. They'd make a joke out of any threat. Also, we've seen how close to jumping off the deep end the Doctor gets when he spends too much time alone, what about when he spends too much time with someone almost exactly like him (they've always been too sides of the same coin). Mortal and "down to earth" companions (human or otherwise) keep him grounded, the Master/Mistress would probably have the opposite effect. Still, I do wish we had kept that character development and just had the Master get his own TARDIS again and go off on their own adventures. Anything but the pure idiocy and character degradation in series 12.
@@samsonguy10k Also in the 4th Doctor's last story for the most part (until they end), they worked together and quickly saved the universe from destruction (after the Master set its destruction in motion by refusing to listen).
@@vullord666 that's why if the Doctor's story ever comes to a close, there should also be a side movie or mini-series of the Master finding redemption and peace
@steve galehe was joking about the drugs... He also used drugs as a reference because of the weird and psychedelic theme of the sixth doctor... Can you not understand?
Colin Baker, Anthony Ainley, and Tony Selby - you can't ask for a better combination. I would have loved to have seen a series with the three of them as an ensemble in comedy skits.
Ainley was a great Master - and often forgotten. Ainley, God rest his soul, hammed the Master up. I went to university with a 'friend' uncannily like Ainley's Master. Frighteningly so. I've always adored Ainley's 'campish' incarnation of the Master. Roger Delgado was splendid. Perfection. So too was the brilliant Michelle Gomez as 'Missy'. I'd love 'Missy' back. Redeemed? Who knows? Imagine a whole season of just 12 and Missy? It might even save what's left of my once favourite television show. I particularly loved the Sim Master. He was insane and driven towards madness as a child. Finally, some character development for the Master! His hatred of the Doctor has always been overblown. Why such malevolence? What did the Doctor do in their pasts to earn such hatred and scorn from the Master? I could understand why this brilliant, totally insane incarnation of the Master loathed the Time Lords so much. They screwed with his mind as a child. I'd loathe them too...
I don't think it's a simple matter that the Valeyard would be too much of an enemy for the Master to face, or that someone would deny him the victory that he desires over the Doctor, it's that the Valeyard is without a concept of beauty, delight, or enjoyment. Even the Master has admiration for some things, but the Valeyard, being the amalgamation of all that is evil in the Doctor would include no respect for the universe, he considers the simple pleasures to be folly. He would see it all destroyed - good, evil, and everything in between, and feel nothing for it.
0:15 the bbc with a cheap budget decided to put the doctors tardis console inside the masters tardis,but in the early eighties he has his own and same with the seventies master tardis
It doesn't have to be. A TARDIS is a weapon in and of itself if used for a destructive purpose. It can project a gravity beam powerful enough to tow a terrestrial planet. That same gravitational forcefield could be used to shred a planet by tidal force, just a matter of adjusting the power level and the induced angular momentum upon the target world. No starship could withstand that kind of force projection, and a TARDIS could tear through a fleet in minutes. Of course, presumably the chameleon circuit could be programmed to change the TARDIS exterior into any kind of warship from any culture you could imagine and it would be fully functional as well. So really, a TARDIS doesn't have to be weaponised at all.
Most tardises are made for research and exploration missions rather than military based ones though there were battle and war tardises made they were few in number and not as reliable
You should have seen the one that Roger Delgado's Master had in Colony in Space, that had a lot of odd bits and bobs, and way better than the one in The Time Monster which was a mix of...well bowls.
I miss this kind of master, it was calm and somewhat serious sometimes but surely evil, the new ones all act crazy and hyperactive, and thats fine. Its also good. Bj
You know the Anthony Ainley incarnation of the Master was a bit of a loser being the "mastermind" behind each and every tiger scheme and always being defeated but he still claims that he has had an upper hand against the doctor. If he thinks he has been relatively close to the doctor all these years what was his defeat by The Valeyard like? What the hell did The Valeyard do to him that makes the usual arrogant Master thinks he's better? How many times has he lost against him? We need stuff like this answered in Big Finish.
King Crimson it’s more just the mere idea of the Valeyard that the Master is worried about. He’s wanting to kill him before he gets anywhere near killing the Doctor
It’s a bit of both you can mentally enter the matrix or you can physically enter it though in that case I’d imagine it’s more of one’s physical form being broken down into data
The master feels like he is the one sleepwalking through most of his scenes here....did he accidentally flick the lgbt switch on his own tardis before he rescued the doctor and put himself into a trance?
Tardis physics is a consequence of general relativity and would be difficult even with artificial intelligence, Theoretically it may not even be possible .I'm sure anyone that witnesses a U.F.O. turn on it's cloaking device quickly questions even the validity of some of the greatest postulations of the astrophysics community, as speed of light without warp drive or wormholes is forbidden and cloaking devices make the real visitors to our timeline and planet, invisible to detection with 21 st century human technology, these devices fail ( they may on purposefully expose themselves and not fail) and American military personal you could see zoom to the area (if you were there)of their huge mother ship, they are shy (they protect themselves from a potentially terrorist planet by not sharing technology) and if they can make it so sometimes you will not remember ( they will change history from the future or wipe out your memories especially if the send you into the past for a few hours or so ). don't be surprised that there is no big cover up with all those con artists ,speaking of extraterrestrial existence anyways. This is not science fiction and N.A.S.A. isn't lying when they say no contact has been made they don't necessary know ,the science community mostly really doesn't. That's why some are taking up their lives trying out foolish grand unified field theories (they cant test theories that will either make them time space travelers or disregard all theories that put a limit on light speed and time travel, because they cant regard any witness to these events as legitimate ) they believe physics most cherished theories are better than Mr Newtons 17th century ones. S.E.T.I. looks at radio waves to find alien technology that's slower than light speed,You really believe they took forever to get here and there? If you create quantum sentient artificial intelligence with brain machine consciousness interfaces, and test general relativity and quantum mechanics your species will become as time lords but your machine may not be larger on the inside, this is not Gallifray this is the realty of all advanced civilizations, that can create multiple histories, here is my update on this comment , appearing to jump from one spot in space time to another is not so strange to appear in more than one place at a time and in contradictory states at once and take on the characteristics, that have henceforth been attributed to quanta and not macro objects in computational non digital analysis . Remember huge populations can be abducted memory erased and their own time lines altered from the future to cloak alien presence, civilizations can perish but the occurrence can be reversed from the future, Cloaking technology can fool all 21st century earth detection devices, we have been labeled as potentially a trouble-making terrorist planet, and will ecologically respect and survive tell we become travelers of space and time from our own technology , not to destroy ourselves with technology we don't have jet by world conquest and making trouble for other worlds were humanoids are not the most intelligent species . Foo fighters followed craft in world war two we don't really know if the Nazis won the first time around and we were exterminated because of this, or if a foolish alien decides to share technology with the con questing soviet union,or the capitalistic piggishness, of maximization of profit at the expense of other species, to wreak havoc on the galaxy and create a unnecessary interstellar event of inter-species hostility . Whatever alternative timeline there are it will always be denied by your local scientist even when it becomes nothing but pseudo science to do so, by the overwhelming amount of independent witnesses that couldn't collaborate with each other to perpetuate a hoax through coordinated communications . Of course I've lost time into the past, and seen three vehicles in the sky that were obviously not of 21st century earth, and of course i'm not on anti psychotic medication of any any sense of form schizophrenic of insane . Why would anyone just write something like this just to lie? Biological sampling or are there real time-lords out there that have no memory of their behavior, and have nothing to do with this show , something deemed it necessary or important to abduct someone and erase their memory they had some fulfilled agenda .
You know I've seen baffling Doctor Who episodes galore but this one was just an outright freaking mess! As underwhelming as Colin Baker was, I feel bad for him because I know he loves the show and wanted to be better than he was. I really should listen to some of his Big Finish stuff.
Too much going on behind the scenes. The writer Robert Holmes died and due to rights issues the second half had to be written with virtually no notice by Pip and Jane Baker. Also script editor Eric Saward also quit at this time. It's surprising it was as good as it was.
Master: I always have the advantage.
Doctor: HA YEAH OKAY BITCH.
The Master's way of saying "No one kills the Doctor but me."
and the BBC's way of broadcasting MK-ULTRA themes
@@rickdeckard1075 something the Joker has said about Batman
@@lokimadmax9227 Oddly enough, the Master and the Joker are so alike. Not wanting to see their archenemies die by the hand of someone else and along the way, cause unimaginable destruction.
The Master is a great friend, hes preventing his friend from committing suicide.
"My dear Doctor, after our many centuries of conflict, naturally I wished you to know that your certain death is now...Certain!"
Say hello to the sofa of reasonable comfort.
I'll explain later.
you may conquer the universe but you'll have to share it with the beard and the bosoms over there
🤣 I'll put Delgado first every time, but Ainley will always be a close second, and the Comic Relief Master has got to be way up there. The funniest thing is that all the 'New Who' Masters seem to behave like the Comic Relief one!!
@@peterward2275 Personally I find the New Who Doctor's to be far more entertaining.
The master was always very... enthusiastic about his archenemy XD
I love this version of The Master’s TARDIS interior
I agree. Well, maybe except for the War Master's. ;) Also, way better than the one in S12, where it's just a random flat with a console. Worst design ever.
I couldn't work out why after all the bother to paint the roundals black, and the columns and the scanner, why use the scanner and the wall by the door to act as a corridor, when it is so clearly not. You would have thought someone would have pointed out during the filming or when they watched it during the editing, but probably someone will try and tell us it was 'cos of time and lack of money and a very short scene, and few would notice during the broadcast. With no worries about repeated viewing. One very interesting thing, from that point on, we saw less and less interior Tardis scenes, so maybe the walls warped after the repainting?
The TARDIS Dark Mode
@@EddJones25 The version I would have
I'm surprised it didn't backfire, with the Master's TARDIS going cataleptic from the violent sensory assault of The Doctor's technicolor vomit coat.
The Master probably said, "'The Ultimate Foe'? This must be a story about me!...Wait, what? It's not?! OH HELL NO!"
Makes sense, seeing as The Master didn't like Davros getting bumped up to arch nemesis.
Hartzilla2007 Yup she Wanted to scratch his eyes out, no idea if she actually did though
She poked him. Surprised she didnt turn the gunstick on him, but I guess she needed to act sympathetic for her next scheme.
Can we please not talk about the shit-heap that is Missy on a classic series video?
No, let's do, actually. People love to come to classic clips and bitch about the revival out of nowhere, so people coming here to praise it for a change is fair game.
I love it when these two team up. The Doctor and the Master together would be utterly unstoppable if they could settle their differences.
They showed how close that could happen in The End of Time, but the constant drums playing in the Master's head that the Time Lords put there played so much havoc that he couldn't trust anyone. Not even his childhood friend.
You are right, though. Those two did have so much potential at working together. It's not meant to be, sadly.
Honestly that's part of the reason why I feel Moffat killed Missy off before we saw this come to fruition. I think people really don't realize that she had become the most dangerous Incarnation of the Master. Not only was she the most experienced and knowledgable (capable of anything previous Incarnations accomplished), but she had started to breakaway from their literal character flaws that had been holding them back. Though I hate we never got to see the character development through and Missy fully stand side by side with the Doctor, I can also see how that would have been a writers nightmare. The Doctor and his only near equal back to back on the same side. They'd make a joke out of any threat. Also, we've seen how close to jumping off the deep end the Doctor gets when he spends too much time alone, what about when he spends too much time with someone almost exactly like him (they've always been too sides of the same coin). Mortal and "down to earth" companions (human or otherwise) keep him grounded, the Master/Mistress would probably have the opposite effect. Still, I do wish we had kept that character development and just had the Master get his own TARDIS again and go off on their own adventures. Anything but the pure idiocy and character degradation in series 12.
@@samsonguy10k Also in the 4th Doctor's last story for the most part (until they end), they worked together and quickly saved the universe from destruction (after the Master set its destruction in motion by refusing to listen).
@@vullord666 that's why if the Doctor's story ever comes to a close, there should also be a side movie or mini-series of the Master finding redemption and peace
1:11
"Look Doctor! Look at the effect you cause with that coat! Feel what you have forced upon others!"
he was soo good he saw 4 doctors
Don't forget about The Five Doctors :P
Josh221 ah well william hartnell wasnt in that one
In the PC game "Destiny of the Doctors" he had all the 7 first Doctors lol
Can you believe Anthony Ainly was in his fifties when he played The Master
1:13 when the drugs kick in
@steve gale Imagine being this tilted that someone made a joke about drugs on something as hilariously psychedelic as the Sixth Doctor era.
@steve galehe was joking about the drugs... He also used drugs as a reference because of the weird and psychedelic theme of the sixth doctor... Can you not understand?
Colin Baker, Anthony Ainley, and Tony Selby - you can't ask for a better combination. I would have loved to have seen a series with the three of them as an ensemble in comedy skits.
Ainley was a great Master - and often forgotten. Ainley, God rest his soul, hammed the Master up. I went to university with a 'friend' uncannily like Ainley's Master. Frighteningly so.
I've always adored Ainley's 'campish' incarnation of the Master. Roger Delgado was splendid. Perfection. So too was the brilliant Michelle Gomez as 'Missy'. I'd love 'Missy' back. Redeemed? Who knows? Imagine a whole season of just 12 and Missy? It might even save what's left of my once favourite television show.
I particularly loved the Sim Master. He was insane and driven towards madness as a child. Finally, some character development for the Master! His hatred of the Doctor has always been overblown. Why such malevolence? What did the Doctor do in their pasts to earn such hatred and scorn from the Master? I could understand why this brilliant, totally insane incarnation of the Master loathed the Time Lords so much. They screwed with his mind as a child. I'd loathe them too...
0:26 did you just INSULT the Sixth Doctor?!
You want to regenerate today, don’t you?
Same
I love how the subtitles try to pronounce the weird, mind-altering sounds also XD
RIP Tony Selby
The Master's new Tardis is a hut.
I don't think it's a simple matter that the Valeyard would be too much of an enemy for the Master to face, or that someone would deny him the victory that he desires over the Doctor, it's that the Valeyard is without a concept of beauty, delight, or enjoyment. Even the Master has admiration for some things, but the Valeyard, being the amalgamation of all that is evil in the Doctor would include no respect for the universe, he considers the simple pleasures to be folly. He would see it all destroyed - good, evil, and everything in between, and feel nothing for it.
0:15 the bbc with a cheap budget decided to put the doctors tardis console inside the masters tardis,but in the early eighties he has his own and same with the seventies master tardis
My favourite version of the master second to missy
Do all renegade Timelords share the same interior decorator?
i love how you had the exact same thought 3 years apart
still bugging you, huh?
I keep expecting Mulberry and Miss Farnaby to show up.
Isn't it odd? 5 says he updated his console, and The Master comes up with the exact same design!
The master also had 3s console once. I think he may be stalking the doctor.
I met the master (Anthony ainley) at the Jarvis Piccadilly hotel Manchester brilliant 😍 he was the best master
End of part 1 (doc who theme)
Huh......I expect the Master's TARDIS to be a bit more........weaponized....
It doesn't have to be. A TARDIS is a weapon in and of itself if used for a destructive purpose. It can project a gravity beam powerful enough to tow a terrestrial planet. That same gravitational forcefield could be used to shred a planet by tidal force, just a matter of adjusting the power level and the induced angular momentum upon the target world. No starship could withstand that kind of force projection, and a TARDIS could tear through a fleet in minutes. Of course, presumably the chameleon circuit could be programmed to change the TARDIS exterior into any kind of warship from any culture you could imagine and it would be fully functional as well. So really, a TARDIS doesn't have to be weaponised at all.
Has the power of a black hole,,,that's all you have to say.....
Most tardises are made for research and exploration missions rather than military based ones though there were battle and war tardises made they were few in number and not as reliable
You should have seen the one that Roger Delgado's Master had in Colony in Space, that had a lot of odd bits and bobs, and way better than the one in The Time Monster which was a mix of...well bowls.
It looks like they're getting revenge on JNT
Admit it
You understand the title
But you have no idea
The sixth doctor sounds a bit like Tom Baker if you lower the pitch.
I know
They are related
@@rippertheindoraptor1098 actually no they just have the same surname
@@kris13 r/wooooosh
@@rippertheindoraptor1098 are you really woooshing me?
@@kris13 Yes
At least Colin can relax, he's not the most hated Doctor anymore.
I miss this kind of master, it was calm and somewhat serious sometimes but surely evil, the new ones all act crazy and hyperactive, and thats fine. Its also good. Bj
The Sixth Doctor got THICC
HE DID THO
Apparently Patrick Troughton who played the 2nd doctor used to call Colin, Miss Piggy
...Did he say "And you gits shall help me to collect?"😳
No the characters name is Glitz
You know the Anthony Ainley incarnation of the Master was a bit of a loser being the "mastermind" behind each and every tiger scheme and always being defeated but he still claims that he has had an upper hand against the doctor. If he thinks he has been relatively close to the doctor all these years what was his defeat by The Valeyard like? What the hell did The Valeyard do to him that makes the usual arrogant Master thinks he's better? How many times has he lost against him? We need stuff like this answered in Big Finish.
King Crimson it’s more just the mere idea of the Valeyard that the Master is worried about. He’s wanting to kill him before he gets anywhere near killing the Doctor
Colin Baker did get very big very quickly
18 months of hiatus will do that to you.
Im very confused about the Matrix in this. Is it now a Physical place where the TARDIS can go?
It’s a bit of both you can mentally enter the matrix or you can physically enter it though in that case I’d imagine it’s more of one’s physical form being broken down into data
I know it's convenient set re-dressing, BUT, do all Timelords share the same interior designer for their Tardis???
chewie211171 they all have the default white console, unless you manually change it. like master has done
Or the Rani in the 80's, she'd customized her TARDIS a bunch too!
@@AubreySciFi I think she just has a more advanced model than either
Adagio îs helped by Sunset
so is there a valyard version of the master
Yes but he's a culmination of every positive and light thought the master ever had. He'd be overbearingly nice and happy! Truly terrifying
Without glitz this would be good
The master feels like he is the one sleepwalking through most of his scenes here....did he accidentally flick the lgbt switch on his own tardis before he rescued the doctor and put himself into a trance?
The Master was always Mega Gay for the Doctor. ALWAYS.
Well he had to test if it would work right?
Cm ...
Tardis physics is a consequence of general relativity and would be difficult even with artificial intelligence, Theoretically it may not even be possible .I'm sure anyone that witnesses a U.F.O. turn on it's cloaking device quickly questions even the validity of some of the greatest postulations of the astrophysics community, as speed of light without warp drive or wormholes is forbidden and cloaking devices make the real visitors to our timeline and planet, invisible to detection with 21 st century human technology, these devices fail ( they may on purposefully expose themselves and not fail) and American military personal you could see zoom to the area (if you were there)of their huge mother ship, they are shy (they protect themselves from a potentially terrorist planet by not sharing technology) and if they can make it so sometimes you will not remember ( they will change history from the future or wipe out your memories especially if the send you into the past for a few hours or so ). don't be surprised that there is no big cover up with all those con artists ,speaking of extraterrestrial existence anyways. This is not science fiction and N.A.S.A. isn't lying when they say no contact has been made they don't necessary know ,the science community mostly really doesn't. That's why some are taking up their lives trying out foolish grand unified field theories (they cant test theories that will either make them time space travelers or disregard all theories that put a limit on light speed and time travel, because they cant regard any witness to these events as legitimate ) they believe physics most cherished theories are better than Mr Newtons 17th century ones. S.E.T.I. looks at radio waves to find alien technology that's slower than light speed,You really believe they took forever to get here and there? If you create quantum sentient artificial intelligence with brain machine consciousness interfaces, and test general relativity and quantum mechanics your species will become as time lords but your machine may not be larger on the inside, this is not Gallifray this is the realty of all advanced civilizations, that can create multiple histories, here is my update on this comment , appearing to jump from one spot in space time to another is not so strange to appear in more than one place at a time and in contradictory states at once and take on the characteristics, that have henceforth been attributed to quanta and not macro objects in computational non digital analysis . Remember huge populations can be abducted memory erased and their own time lines altered from the future to cloak alien presence, civilizations can perish but the occurrence can be reversed from the future, Cloaking technology can fool all 21st century earth detection devices, we have been labeled as potentially a trouble-making terrorist planet, and will ecologically respect and survive tell we become travelers of space and time from our own technology , not to destroy ourselves with technology we don't have jet by world conquest and making trouble for other worlds were humanoids are not the most intelligent species . Foo fighters followed craft in world war two we don't really know if the Nazis won the first time around and we were exterminated because of this, or if a foolish alien decides to share technology with the con questing soviet union,or the capitalistic piggishness, of maximization of profit at the expense of other species, to wreak havoc on the galaxy and create a unnecessary interstellar event of inter-species hostility . Whatever alternative timeline there are it will always be denied by your local scientist even when it becomes nothing but pseudo science to do so, by the overwhelming amount of independent witnesses that couldn't collaborate with each other to perpetuate a hoax through coordinated communications . Of course I've lost time into the past, and seen three vehicles in the sky that were obviously not of 21st century earth, and of course i'm not on anti psychotic medication of any any sense of form schizophrenic of insane . Why would anyone just write something like this just to lie? Biological sampling or are there real time-lords out there that have no memory of their behavior, and have nothing to do with this show , something deemed it necessary or important to abduct someone and erase their memory they had some fulfilled agenda .
Get a life you sad fool
Pardon me, but are you insane?
Wayne Self what the hell are you on about?
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You know I've seen baffling Doctor Who episodes galore but this one was just an outright freaking mess! As underwhelming as Colin Baker was, I feel bad for him because I know he loves the show and wanted to be better than he was. I really should listen to some of his Big Finish stuff.
Too much going on behind the scenes. The writer Robert Holmes died and due to rights issues the second half had to be written with virtually no notice by Pip and Jane Baker. Also script editor Eric Saward also quit at this time. It's surprising it was as good as it was.