I just got got my first cyber job and this video is spot on. You really do want to be well rounded when entering this space. You have to treat yourself as a product and make yourself the best product you can be in this market. I have my sec+ and a decent IT background but my knowledge of cloud made me look even more appealing to my employer. I’ve never had a cloud job or anything but the fact I can prove I’ve studied it and have done many labs helped me land the job
This is across the board for entry level IT. If you’re reading this, don’t let content like this get you discouraged. Be curious and keep learning. Someone will give you an opportunity.
I recently started my first cybersecurity job as a SOC analyst. I got lucky. I worked as a sys admin for 5 months, then one of the guys in the SOC left and the SOC manager asked if I'd join the SOC. The SOC manager already knew I had Security + and the Google Cybersecurity Certificate, so I was just in the right place at the right time to finally move into the cyber security industry. I remember applying to hundreds of cyber security jobs before landing an IT job and just hearing nothing. It was extremely discouraging.
Any tips bro...Currently interning with a foreign betting company for the role of an IT Network Administrator...I have 5 professional certificates from Cisco, A Google Cybersecurity Cert. Am writing my CompTIA sec+ in a few months. I have hands on experience as a SOC analyst...Any help would be greatly appreciated
@@nelosbossI'm midway through two CS courses, looking at doing networking and cloud as well. I hear the application process is a grind, I'm rooting for you bro! 💪 Are you on linkedin? Are you beefing that up? Reach out to companies, follow them, follow some managers / hr reps. Send them messages. You'll get there ! I'm planning on setting up my linked in account this weekend and reach out to people (granted I'm looking at tier 1 HD positions, to just get my foot through the door). All the best!
They should also have to justify the certifications they require. Not sure why I need to be the one to pay thousands of dollars on certifications for their benefit.
While I agree the certificate market is saturated. Most people won’t get past HR filters unless they have certain certs, for me CISSP did it. The algorithm is looking for it.
The algorithm is not looking for qualified, intelligent, problem solvers. Average IT professional makes $90,000 a year plus benefits and works 3-5 years at a company. A good one can save a company millions. The algorithm makes sure that 99% of good ones get screened out.
@@MaxAbramson3If that’s actually true, why don’t you start a consulting agency to help companies not miss good applicants? A 100x increase in qualified applicants would be huge.
Spot on. I’m in cybersecurity. Been working as Information Security Analyst for 1 year. Applying for remote jobs currently. I’ve applied for 103 this year. I have Net+, Sec+, BTL1, have previous IT experience, and still no calls.
@@ghostmkc4045 I have photos and PNPT all paid off. Training and cert. just need to start. I’ll start next month I’ll take both this year. OSCP is next in line next year. Then OSEP and OSED. I will be an ethical hacker. The only reason why I don’t want management roll is because I want to stay in action, actually performing.
@@ghostmkc4045As someone with the OSCP I can say this will not help. 500+ applies and still no call backs but I do work part time as a pentester (got the position by who I know and not what) but no full time opportunities yet.
I think part of it is, everyone wants to work remotely right. So now you’re competing with the world essentially. What I found to be successful is applying for positions that are local. On linked in you’ll see remote positions with 100+ applicants. Then you’ll see on site positions with less than 10 applicants. You have a better chance of getting an interview with on site for the time being.
The thing is, some may say on-site but you work for a month and prove yourself and gain their confidence and they may be happy to let you do remote. So I say unless if you really have an issue travelling, consider the on-site because of what the role has to offer rather than just because it's remote or not.
First thing I need to hammer here… *you are not competing with the world* you are competing with the nationals of the country you are located and anyone else legal to work. That being said, do not be afraid to submit your application… at the end of the day, the HR or their firm’s ATS will filter the all applicants and focus on eligible ones. e.g. if you see 1000 applicants, don’t be surprised if only 100 will be eventually looked.
I've been in IT for about 14 years. I'm a Senior Desktop Engineer. The only time I've seen where an Engineer is dedicated to Security is if they're working for an MSP. PAX8 etc...Other than that you're gonna work with a close knit Team and we all support everything together. I think it's better that way. Why limit yourself. Also, for anyone new to the IT Field. Alot of Applications have a Developer, trial or Sandbox version of their Software. Like MS Entra or OKTA. God bless all that read this and Good luck to all. Companies need you. Just not for 1 role😀💯✌
Thank you for giving us a realistic outlook on the job market within this industry! At least i can say that i am still always willing to learn and understand any new material. Appreciate all that you do, sir!
I have a bachelors in cybersecurity, security+, a secret clearance, and 6 years of IT experience in the military and I can not get a call back from any jobs that I’ve applied to. Update: I have decided to cut my losses and pursue nursing, which is what I was interested in before joining the military.
This is really discouraging. I got sold into believing IT security was gonna be on demand, and employers were getting desperate, and yada yada yada 🙄 I'm really starting to regret spending all of this time and energy training for a field that turned out to be more hype than anything.
@@itsmethebigg9568 AI is the biggest hype. Cyber Security is better than SE and AI. It's true that Cyber Security takes more time to give you a living, But job security is higher
Hey, wanted to maybe give you some encouragement. I finished a 2-year degree in Network Security and Computer Forensics. Then stayed on for another year and received an advanced certificate in Network Security. Ended up transferring to a 4 year to grab my bachelor's but have not finished yet. However, while I was in the state university, I decided to apply for a position as an Associate Cybersecurity Analyst for a large company. The position was for pentesting and a junior role, so requirement was familiarity with the pentest process and tools. Now keep in mind I was very active on HTB, THM, NCL, and other platforms also building out virtual labs. They hired me and I have been with the company for almost 2 years and just received a promotion. I did not have any certifications other than the Sec+ at the time. I now have 3 different hacking certs. But if I can do it so, can you and anyone else. But you cannot (and not saying you do lol) think that finishing a college degree only doing the course work will get you there. It will not. I could have skipped the entire school process if I had been disciplined enough to self-study but I needed the structure. My point is anyone can get a job in Cyber specifically hacking or pentesting (not red teaming, this takes experience which comes from on the job and higher-level certs and tons of practice) if they want it and that means grinding every day immersing yourself in your trade going hands on doing maybe a few coding projects. Making sure if it is hacking but same would apply for blue team that you are putting hands on and yes labs count as well as platforms. You can easily demonstrate this on a resume then more importantly if you get an interview that is where you can show your ability, knowledge, and skills. I also was a non-traditional student so I was pretty old and honestly was convinced that I would not be able to start out with zero experience or background in IT in a pentesting role. But it is possible you just got to want it and willing to put in long hours when everyone else is off doing whatever. It is absolutely fulfilling and the best job I have ever had. So, you can do this!
I have a bachelors in cybersecurity, security+, a secret clearance, and 6 years of IT experience in the military and I can not get a call back from any jobs that I’ve applied to.
Ok, thanks for the clarification. I found it to be an absolute game changer for my career in security and certainly an asset even though it was oriented towards Cisco as a vendor Networking is and will always be essential but having an all around foundation like you said in your videos was totally right. Such as being a programmer, systems admin, network admin; etc
Great channel! I just discovered it and subbed. I can't wait to see more. I have 24 years of experience as a Sysadmin and I've been doing the Cybersecurity (blue team) at my job and I'm looking to move into the Cybersecurity full time.
Yea over saturated is my experience. Too many news articles about shortages of talent, but really it’s not a shortage of desire now, it’s a shortage of employers willing to invest in the roles. It’s a cost and they won’t hire you unless you are already experienced and skilled. Even experienced pros are applying for more entry level roles now, that’s how bad it is.
I have a challenge when it comes speaking at length because I stutter so I tend to speak slowly and I feel that could be a hindrance during interviews. Kindly advise and many thanks for your wonderful videos!
Just be straight up before the interview and let them know you may not get your point across quickly. The important thing is that you show up and give it your best
Got let go from my IT Support Specialist job October. Finished two Cybersec certs one from MS, one Edurkea and finishing another one with Ontario Tech. Hope I get a new job soon.
Hello. First time viewer here. Glad to have found your channel. I'm currently a 2nd line network engineer working for a big telecommunications company. I've been in this field for 4 years ever since graduating college. Half of my job is more of a sysadmin, while the rest of it has me working with all these different protocols and levels of the OSI model. I've been studying for about 7-8 months the red team part of cybersecurity and so far the learning curve has been ok, most of the stuff that I learn relies on knowledge I've already built in my domain. Got my eJPT and half-way there with HTB's CPTS course, hoping to get my certificate in roughly a month or two. Skipping the OSCP as I don't want to pay that amount of money from my own pocket. What are my chances, realistically speaking, to land a job as an ethical hacker, preferably not a junior level position, and what advise would you have for someone in my position?
Honestly its just a cost center so yeah its gonna be downgraded. Cybersecurity and software support are the cost of doing business but they do not generate revenue. So those areas of a company are always going to be be trimmed as much as possible.
great video! do you think cybersecurity will stay relevant and a thriving market for coming years even with AI and does companies have problem if i haven't renewed my cert but got experience lol
This is good to know, I'm pivoting to a cyber career, but I'm currently in the BI/ data engineering space. The plan is to end up transitioning to an internal role with the company I'm employed with and get some solid experience before looking in the market. My mentor is a director in the cyber world, and that has been key for navigating the space.
I believe what you are saying is in this video, but I thought it was quite different, at least here in my area near Jacksonville, Florida. An IT manager I know in this area said they posted for a cyber security person and had THREE applicants total. They hired one of the three and are happy with who they hired. But three applicants total doesn't sound saturated to me.
I've not been able to find work for 3 years due to the lack of knowledge of needing the certs. Then going to a school that didn't fully prep me for the Security + cert test (failed it). Now I'm stuck at a job that has no growth potential. I'm thinking of going back to school for project management bc these cyber jobs want you to have experience, yet whose gonna hire you if all you have is just a cert and no work history to show for it? Would like your feedback if you got anything. And ty for the video. You hit the nail on the head for me. I'm over it! 😢😫
go to wgu if youre going back to college with no certs. you earn up to a bachelors while obtaining comptia and other keyword certs at the same time. i suggest you look into it.
certs are an industry on themselves, elixir has a cert for the language, it is 3500 every 3 yrs, why do i need to be certified for a language that i have helped to create.
OKay the 1st job you reviewed they are basically looking for junior attorney i.e counsel. They absolutely make 120K -150K coming out of law school in an expensive city like San Francisco.
Some of the job postings for the mid level have gotten crazy. There was a system admin job i was looking at and they had the regular sec+ cert requirement, the 3-5 years IT exp. Cool, then they wanna talk about oh you gotta have a PHD. Mind you the price range was only about 85-90k. The HR need to be more educated in the various fields they are hiring for, it’s ridiculous to see that while there is a filter to find the best experienced for the job, you also need to know what you looking for
Finally someone saying the truth about getting into cybersecurity. its far too overrated everyone, companies are just not hiring. Cert are now even 10 days exam!! haha even Dr dont have a 10 day exam from HTB
My resume is not that all out for cyber role although i have vast IT experiences..but i have applied one or 2 cyber engineer but come out as nothing, not selected n no reasonings behind it. Its just kept silenced, a few mentioned over qualified but cant i be selected, beginnning to see my expectation too high, so what is the best expectation for an experienced guy like myself and at times client would inform me this budget, cannot exceed that range., thus ending up not getting that role altogether...that is the few problems i am having right till today.
I teach my folks that IT is the category of the Field. Information Technology (IT) within there are different pathways. Network, Cyber, Cloud etc... Now these people that post jobs, they mix everything up. 🤦🏽♂️ Great video. Keep it up! ✌🏽😎
You’re soo spot on! I have a masters of science in cybersecurity and they expect me to have 4-5 years of experience. Most of my experience is hands on project work during my Masters program. No one wants to give a woman a chance! It’s soo draining applying this these positions and getting the same depressing response.
@@ultravioletiris6241 Don’t come for me with that crap! I will never play a race card! Show your face so I could see what you are! It’s about credentials period!
Hi sir I need your help I am currently working as full stack engineer/ software engineer and have been professionally working for two years after teaching myself coding. I want to go into cyber security specifically hacking , or malware analysis or pen testing. What is recommendation based o your experience? Thanks
I'm heavily considering noping out of IT. Too many companies think they can shirk security and cheapskate protecting customer data, others would outsource for pennies and get terrible support in return. DoD seems to be steady, but you're gatekept by clearance which means people who served and have active clearance gets first pick, even if they lack experience. Feels like what looked like a promising career is now starting to have lower wages, 24/7 on call, and stress upon stress. Doesn't seem worth it. I crawled my way to L2 with some firewall, networking, server, security experience and it's a drop in the bucket compared to what they want just for "entry level SOC". Also been wanting to change states, since tech jobs in AZ, NV are pretty awful. CA I'm already priced out, so I'm looking at OR, WA, or even TX, CO if the north west is too expensive.
I am actually shocked to hear that cyber security is saturated. I figured if anything in IT this would be the thing in the highest demand. The 2 biggest things I hear more than anything else in I.T. is Cyber Security and A.I.
Every cyber job I look at on linkedin has 100+ people applying to it. It almost better to find an IT job that has an internal security team and just make a move at some point
I think there is a massive disconnect with Hiring Managers/HR and Job Seekers. The latter is primarily looking for Unicorns that can do Everything and unwilling to train new or transitional professionals. An agree that the certifications are extremely overrated in the industry.
Thank you! I'm starting school soon to get my BS in Cys at a school that provides 15 certs with the degree and have an associates Business admin, this video really helped me feel a lot better about my situation. Do you have any advice for me? I'm 24 atm and already working in tech, I'm working in UAT so I'm mainly the bridge between our client and our dev/data/architecture/visionary teams, working closely with qa and the client to make sure everything works as expected. I'm very pleased at my current situation but I'm struggling a little bit understanding how to leverage all my current experience with what I'm learning at school to eventually make the transition into a more cys focused role in a year or so.. I know being in the tech industry already and specially my role will make it a bit easier but I'm still trying to piece it together, I've been looking into information assurance/security .. that seems like would make more sense to transition into once I graduate (?)
The slashes have never stopped -- been here since before I started in Hollywood in the 90's. There it was writer/producer/actor or director/writer/producer. Now it's the alphabet soup slashes of IT. OMGurrr!
Great Video!!! Tons of information. I have been wondering the same thing about the IT job market in 2024. Im putting feelers out there for a Network Engineer or Network Technician role. Either way, it looks like its going to be hard to find a tech job in 2024. Its going to come down to your location and how flooded that market is with talent.
I have recently finished my masters course in cyber security. I am in the UK so I literally worried about my career, I don't know how to become an employee in the cyber security field.. assist me , I am stuck badly now ..
currently have a bachelors in marketing and a data analytics cert with the intention of getting more, I've been considering pursuing a masters in CIS with a concentration in cybersecurity but am trying to see if that is worth it compared to joining Isaca and still racking up more certifications?
@@CyberHAC100k certain jobs have wanted unicorns for scamming purposes for decades, that didn’t just start now. Some jobs wanted unicorns because of a saturated market. Some jobs don’t know how to read and understand requirements and just copy pasta what their next competitor did. Point is there isn’t a singular reason or logic behind companies, jobs and talent being in a stalemate often. Best thing to do is accept that you need to apply. Applying will not be fair or fun. You may need to put in 50 to 250 applications. But I would suggest not being discouraged by the lack of professionalism some HR and talent recruiters have.
I have my OSCP, SEC+, and a Cyber Engineering degree with 1 year experience as a pentester and still can't get back any call back's. I think you left out an important part about finding a job; most of the time it is who you know and not what. Networking with people is important and the more networking someone can do the greater chances they will have to land a job. Any job opportunity I have ever had was from someone I know. @@CyberHAC100k
So basically it’s not worth going into cybersecurity now? Cuz I’m deciding if I should learn it & switch careers. I’m currently a civil engineer for the government & it’s stable
@@OiVinn-eq1ml worth is how much you will value the change. It will be hard to say since it’s different for each person. I understand govt jobs and know how stable ….but very dull it can get
IT support person= cost unit. So people, do it for the love of the industry and don't get hung up on it so you'll either be miserable or better move to something else. (Edit: I know, you should try to look to grow, improve, make better wages and benefits, blah blah blah, but at the end of the day, it's a cost unit.)
Can you advice Cyber Security for works . I do garden and landscape and getting tired and old . I want spent little money to learn cyber security for works
Look up online what you can do and do your research for the specific things you're looking for. Keep in mind that if you want an easy way out, then that's not how reality works unless your parents are straight up CEO of a big company and they just throw you a position to learn. If you want something in life, you're going to have to work hard for it. They are all out there for you to grab. The question is what do you want to do to achieve those? Most companies want young people that are up to date with their inventions and coding and all of those. If you're an older person, you have to ask yourself what do you have to offer to this field that companies will choose you over other younger people? You need to develop an useful skill that can sell yourself as a product that most other people can't do. That's the key here. Otherwise, you're just a liability to the companies and they don't want liability or dead weight.
After listening to your video, which was very helpful. My situation is that I’m getting my masters in cyber security. so what should be my expected outcome? 😮
Do as many labs and or industry software depending on which route you’re planning to take. Red or Blue team. Master degree alone won’t speak volume without some practical knowledge of current tools
I have 35yrs of tech exp from help desk, thru admin, thru AD, thru virtualization, thru engineering & wifi. Im currently on disability, which sucks. Im taking Azure training towards cloud sec. After cloud sec, I plan to get Sec+, then CISSP. I will do labs to acquire skills along the way so that employers will readily see my value. Thoughts?
What is a realistic entry level starting salary, I'm in the army soon to start getting my bachelor's in cyber security and eventually follow that path, what is a realistic view of the pay in this field?
Just stay in the army and use that as a leverage to find IT jobs because they'll pay for you to get trained. You're not going to get that kind of benefits outside in civilian world. In regard to your expectation of salary, it depends on what kind of position you're trying to go into. My best advice is that you should look up the average salary online for the job you're looking for. Cyber security is a very broad term. There are specifications that falls under that. That's why you should do your own research. There's always a low to high end of that job, so try to hit that bulk point because company will try to lower you salary of what you're expecting.
You should take advantage of the numerous handouts given to vets. There are a bajillion free certs, mentorships, scholarships for SANS, and tons of companies do Skillbridge internships or whatever its called. You don’t have to be nearly as competitive to land a Skillbridge vs corporate internships. These opportunities are often a boys club tho, so don’t piss off your coworkers or superiors
I've been considering getting my BA in Cyber Security. It's a 3-year program would you still recommend it? Conversely, what is a better alternative to study in IT?
After watching your video, it’s seems like landing a job at a financial institution wouldn’t be a terrible idea. I’m currently studying cybersecurity at Purdue
I switched my major and decided to switch to IT. I will finish school in December, and I feel IT is very broad. I don't know what jobs to start applying for. It seems like I will still need to choose a path to get more experience. I am debating whether I should focus on the cybersecurity certifications or just get the CCNA. Any advice?
Hey CyberHAC, thanks for this video. Was needing to hear this, i have one question to you for helping me in my situation. I live in Argentina, here there are a few cyber jobs. Whats your point of view about the greatest way to get a job in the US, i have god skills (preparing the CISSP exam) but little experience. Thanks for your context videos
Cybersecurity is important in any country, so more awareness and better protection is in the corporate and public interest. Have you spoken to companies that provide cybersecurity services in your country? It’s in their interest to raise public awareness and sell their products and services. Contact other non-IT business related companies that operate in Argentina and tell them you can help them be compliant with the Argentinian data protection legislation. What have you got to lose? Maybe you will even start a beneficial movement, who knows? Good luck.
i gave up because of the recruiters/hr as a software developer of 37 years, the market is gone. corperate has mass hired entry level 1-5 yr devs, it took me 7000 hrs erlang/elixir exp to be qualified to get a call back from my last job, which after 1 yr an employees 18 yr old kid graduated hs and i was laid off. after you get older you will realize its not about skill its about who is in charge, mommy hr devalues senior engineers so her entitled child can have a try, thats why it is so hard, engineers get tired of being devalued for children and interns, i was trying to raise a family, but an 18 yr old had more value, i hate this industry. im not paying 40 bands in income tax like i did last year because i have no income thanx hr mommy.
cyber is getting hard to switch jobs, the requirements are going crazy and very varied! and there are way tooo many certifications, and most of it is not required, practical knowledge is imp not certs. how many freakong certs can/should one get? its insane! eff the certs!
Maybe we should only apply for jobs if we don't need them. Let's become millionaires first and then apply for jobs. We will be able to walk in the interview and show the hiring managers that 1) we have most of the qualifications required including certs, 2) we don't have the unrealistic amount of experience they're expecting (remember it is an entry-level position), and 3) we are there not for the money but because we could be a valuable asset to them.
I have been in Cybersecurity for about 5 years, I just got laid off in February and now it is April and May is coming up and I have been submitting my Resume, constantly and keep up to date, studying and on top I have 20 years in the IT industry but so far!!!! nothing; I have never before seen such a saturation, no calls, no email replies, just dead!
I just got got my first cyber job and this video is spot on. You really do want to be well rounded when entering this space. You have to treat yourself as a product and make yourself the best product you can be in this market. I have my sec+ and a decent IT background but my knowledge of cloud made me look even more appealing to my employer. I’ve never had a cloud job or anything but the fact I can prove I’ve studied it and have done many labs helped me land the job
That is amazing and congrats!!!
I'm sooooo frickin happy fuh you dude. I feel like i landed that damn Job 😂.
Congrats! How long had you been applying before you landed the cyber position?
@@CyberHAC100k thanks
@@eia2704 hahaha thanks
This is across the board for entry level IT. If you’re reading this, don’t let content like this get you discouraged. Be curious and keep learning. Someone will give you an opportunity.
Thx. I’m studying for ethical hacking. If anything I could just land on cyber analyst.
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Agreed! Keep it up! Life is about Growth. I recently got my CySA+ and working on PentTest+ right now.
LFG! ✌🏽😎
Definitely not true. Everyone I graduated with ended up in retail, movie theaters, or selling laptops.
@@MaxAbramson3 how long ago did you graduate?
I recently started my first cybersecurity job as a SOC analyst. I got lucky. I worked as a sys admin for 5 months, then one of the guys in the SOC left and the SOC manager asked if I'd join the SOC. The SOC manager already knew I had Security + and the Google Cybersecurity Certificate, so I was just in the right place at the right time to finally move into the cyber security industry. I remember applying to hundreds of cyber security jobs before landing an IT job and just hearing nothing. It was extremely discouraging.
Any tips bro...Currently interning with a foreign betting company for the role of an IT Network Administrator...I have 5 professional certificates from Cisco, A Google Cybersecurity Cert. Am writing my CompTIA sec+ in a few months. I have hands on experience as a SOC analyst...Any help would be greatly appreciated
@@nelosbossI'm midway through two CS courses, looking at doing networking and cloud as well. I hear the application process is a grind, I'm rooting for you bro! 💪 Are you on linkedin? Are you beefing that up? Reach out to companies, follow them, follow some managers / hr reps. Send them messages. You'll get there !
I'm planning on setting up my linked in account this weekend and reach out to people (granted I'm looking at tier 1 HD positions, to just get my foot through the door). All the best!
Hey man congrats. I’m trying to obtain my security+ and I have my Google cybersecurity cert. Did you go the traditional route of help desk first?
Man I'm really happy for you ! It's good to see people in this industry get what they deserve! 👊🏽
Can you tell me what I should expect as a starting salary for a level one soc analyst position in Chicago? Previously System admin for 9 years.
All jobs in every field should be explictly required to say how much they pay specifically upfront
Totally agree
They should also have to justify the certifications they require. Not sure why I need to be the one to pay thousands of dollars on certifications for their benefit.
Good question, why is it ok for them to lie to us, but if we lie on the resume we get fired? Hilarious.
@@shawnmendrek3544 Because at will employment means "at the company's will" employment.
Then move to totalitarian state
While I agree the certificate market is saturated. Most people won’t get past HR filters unless they have certain certs, for me CISSP did it. The algorithm is looking for it.
I think you're right
Yup, they are sure looking for those.
CISSP, CISM and CISA are a few that get attention.
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The algorithm is not looking for qualified, intelligent, problem solvers. Average IT professional makes $90,000 a year plus benefits and works 3-5 years at a company. A good one can save a company millions. The algorithm makes sure that 99% of good ones get screened out.
@@MaxAbramson3If that’s actually true, why don’t you start a consulting agency to help companies not miss good applicants? A 100x increase in qualified applicants would be huge.
@martinlutherkingjr.5582 Most HR depts don't realize that the problem is them.
Even in software it’s over saturated
People take a few CZcams courses and call themselves professional
The bootcamp epidimy
@@SantiagoSarmiento1 Lol everyone has to start from somewhere or else no one would be given that chance
@@Rells26 yes let everybody that watches a youtube video weld the subframe of your car.
🤣🤣 FR FR..
@@invalidaccount2315hey you can learn a lot from CZcams
This is so vital. My weakness is interviews for sure.
In interviews I shine. Ive had a few internships but haven't fully broke into the space to learn and absorb. I'll get there though.
Spot on. I’m in cybersecurity. Been working as Information Security Analyst for 1 year. Applying for remote jobs currently. I’ve applied for 103 this year. I have Net+, Sec+, BTL1, have previous IT experience, and still no calls.
In your position id look into getting a pnpt, oscp cert and think bout moving into manager roles with cissp, just my opinion.
@@ghostmkc4045 I have photos and PNPT all paid off. Training and cert. just need to start. I’ll start next month I’ll take both this year. OSCP is next in line next year. Then OSEP and OSED. I will be an ethical hacker. The only reason why I don’t want management roll is because I want to stay in action, actually performing.
@@ghostmkc4045As someone with the OSCP I can say this will not help. 500+ applies and still no call backs but I do work part time as a pentester (got the position by who I know and not what) but no full time opportunities yet.
I think part of it is, everyone wants to work remotely right. So now you’re competing with the world essentially. What I found to be successful is applying for positions that are local. On linked in you’ll see remote positions with 100+ applicants. Then you’ll see on site positions with less than 10 applicants. You have a better chance of getting an interview with on site for the time being.
The thing is, some may say on-site but you work for a month and prove yourself and gain their confidence and they may be happy to let you do remote. So I say unless if you really have an issue travelling, consider the on-site because of what the role has to offer rather than just because it's remote or not.
First thing I need to hammer here… *you are not competing with the world* you are competing with the nationals of the country you are located and anyone else legal to work.
That being said, do not be afraid to submit your application… at the end of the day, the HR or their firm’s ATS will filter the all applicants and focus on eligible ones.
e.g. if you see 1000 applicants, don’t be surprised if only 100 will be eventually looked.
lol
I've been in IT for about 14 years. I'm a Senior Desktop Engineer. The only time I've seen where an Engineer is dedicated to Security is if they're working for an MSP. PAX8 etc...Other than that you're gonna work with a close knit Team and we all support everything together. I think it's better that way. Why limit yourself. Also, for anyone new to the IT Field. Alot of Applications have a Developer, trial or Sandbox version of their Software. Like MS Entra or OKTA. God bless all that read this and Good luck to all. Companies need you. Just not for 1 role😀💯✌
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Thank you for giving us a realistic outlook on the job market within this industry! At least i can say that i am still always willing to learn and understand any new material. Appreciate all that you do, sir!
I have a bachelors in cybersecurity, security+, a secret clearance, and 6 years of IT experience in the military and I can not get a call back from any jobs that I’ve applied to.
Update: I have decided to cut my losses and pursue nursing, which is what I was interested in before joining the military.
This is really discouraging. I got sold into believing IT security was gonna be on demand, and employers were getting desperate, and yada yada yada 🙄
I'm really starting to regret spending all of this time and energy training for a field that turned out to be more hype than anything.
@@itsmethebigg9568 AI is the biggest hype. Cyber Security is better than SE and AI. It's true that Cyber Security takes more time to give you a living, But job security is higher
These tech field are so saturated that in no way are they worth the amount of work you put in.
Great info I went through this trying to get a job period in 2008 due to the crash. Gotta keep moving forward and be able to demonstrate your skills.
Isn’t it interesting that the market is behaving like it did in the 2008 post crisis era?
Got my associates in applied science for cybersecurity. Been applying and it’s been rough.
Nooo dont day that, I'm currently trying to get in myself after going for my SEC+ 😅
Get a bachelors or all your certifications or both
Hey, wanted to maybe give you some encouragement. I finished a 2-year degree in Network Security and Computer Forensics. Then stayed on for another year and received an advanced certificate in Network Security. Ended up transferring to a 4 year to grab my bachelor's but have not finished yet. However, while I was in the state university, I decided to apply for a position as an Associate Cybersecurity Analyst for a large company. The position was for pentesting and a junior role, so requirement was familiarity with the pentest process and tools. Now keep in mind I was very active on HTB, THM, NCL, and other platforms also building out virtual labs. They hired me and I have been with the company for almost 2 years and just received a promotion. I did not have any certifications other than the Sec+ at the time. I now have 3 different hacking certs. But if I can do it so, can you and anyone else. But you cannot (and not saying you do lol) think that finishing a college degree only doing the course work will get you there. It will not. I could have skipped the entire school process if I had been disciplined enough to self-study but I needed the structure. My point is anyone can get a job in Cyber specifically hacking or pentesting (not red teaming, this takes experience which comes from on the job and higher-level certs and tons of practice) if they want it and that means grinding every day immersing yourself in your trade going hands on doing maybe a few coding projects. Making sure if it is hacking but same would apply for blue team that you are putting hands on and yes labs count as well as platforms. You can easily demonstrate this on a resume then more importantly if you get an interview that is where you can show your ability, knowledge, and skills. I also was a non-traditional student so I was pretty old and honestly was convinced that I would not be able to start out with zero experience or background in IT in a pentesting role. But it is possible you just got to want it and willing to put in long hours when everyone else is off doing whatever. It is absolutely fulfilling and the best job I have ever had. So, you can do this!
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Which certs? Theres so many of them
I have a bachelors in cybersecurity, security+, a secret clearance, and 6 years of IT experience in the military and I can not get a call back from any jobs that I’ve applied to.
CCNA was way more than just ‘how to long in with your password’ 🤣🤣🤣 networking is essential for cybersecurity
It is but not when it was first released
Ok, thanks for the clarification. I found it to be an absolute game changer for my career in security and certainly an asset even though it was oriented towards Cisco as a vendor
Networking is and will always be essential but having an all around foundation like you said in your videos was totally right. Such as being a programmer, systems admin, network admin; etc
Gonna start with Information Technology and work up. Have to start somewhere.
Great channel! I just discovered it and subbed. I can't wait to see more.
I have 24 years of experience as a Sysadmin and I've been doing the Cybersecurity (blue team) at my job and I'm looking to move into the Cybersecurity full time.
Yea over saturated is my experience. Too many news articles about shortages of talent, but really it’s not a shortage of desire now, it’s a shortage of employers willing to invest in the roles. It’s a cost and they won’t hire you unless you are already experienced and skilled. Even experienced pros are applying for more entry level roles now, that’s how bad it is.
I was in a Security Analyst role recently before being let go. Currently on the market and looking at these job posting is frustrating.
Why were you let go?
True bro but no only for security is all market
Have to say, just randomly stumbled upon your channel. your video was super easy to watch. Great content delivery. Subscribed, keep it up :)
Really appreciate that
I have a challenge when it comes speaking at length because I stutter so I tend to speak slowly and I feel that could be a hindrance during interviews. Kindly advise and many thanks for your wonderful videos!
Just be straight up before the interview and let them know you may not get your point across quickly. The important thing is that you show up and give it your best
Got let go from my IT Support Specialist job October. Finished two Cybersec certs one from MS, one Edurkea and finishing another one with Ontario Tech. Hope I get a new job soon.
Only certain certs are valuable. Get cissp if you don't have it
@@benjamindavis2475 what about hack the box
Hello. First time viewer here. Glad to have found your channel. I'm currently a 2nd line network engineer working for a big telecommunications company. I've been in this field for 4 years ever since graduating college. Half of my job is more of a sysadmin, while the rest of it has me working with all these different protocols and levels of the OSI model. I've been studying for about 7-8 months the red team part of cybersecurity and so far the learning curve has been ok, most of the stuff that I learn relies on knowledge I've already built in my domain. Got my eJPT and half-way there with HTB's CPTS course, hoping to get my certificate in roughly a month or two. Skipping the OSCP as I don't want to pay that amount of money from my own pocket. What are my chances, realistically speaking, to land a job as an ethical hacker, preferably not a junior level position, and what advise would you have for someone in my position?
Honestly its just a cost center so yeah its gonna be downgraded. Cybersecurity and software support are the cost of doing business but they do not generate revenue. So those areas of a company are always going to be be trimmed as much as possible.
Hundreds of applicants for every decent tech job out there. Who makes the big money here? Those who sell useless bootcamps and courses.
great video! do you think cybersecurity will stay relevant and a thriving market for coming years even with AI and does companies have problem if i haven't renewed my cert but got experience lol
This is good to know, I'm pivoting to a cyber career, but I'm currently in the BI/ data engineering space. The plan is to end up transitioning to an internal role with the company I'm employed with and get some solid experience before looking in the market. My mentor is a director in the cyber world, and that has been key for navigating the space.
...you're going to do well! as the war escalates security consciousness will increase,
Thank you so much for this!!!
I believe what you are saying is in this video, but I thought it was quite different, at least here in my area near Jacksonville, Florida. An IT manager I know in this area said they posted for a cyber security person and had THREE applicants total. They hired one of the three and are happy with who they hired. But three applicants total doesn't sound saturated to me.
Just 3??!? Where was the job posted and what level? I’m pretty shocked unless you have some ai filtering the jobs applicants
@@ultravioletiris6241Or it couldn’t been a senior level or the require qualifications were super high
Almost every single remote IT job has over 100 applicant on Linkedin - the dream is over fellas - the whole industry is super saturated
"Entry level software developer" has had 300+ applicants for years. Now this terror is coming to the rest of IT.
I've not been able to find work for 3 years due to the lack of knowledge of needing the certs. Then going to a school that didn't fully prep me for the Security + cert test (failed it). Now I'm stuck at a job that has no growth potential. I'm thinking of going back to school for project management bc these cyber jobs want you to have experience, yet whose gonna hire you if all you have is just a cert and no work history to show for it? Would like your feedback if you got anything. And ty for the video. You hit the nail on the head for me. I'm over it! 😢😫
go to wgu if youre going back to college with no certs. you earn up to a bachelors while obtaining comptia and other keyword certs at the same time. i suggest you look into it.
You nailed it. They require cert like CISSP, but you can’t get the CISSP with 5 year’s experience first. Classic Catch 22.
certs are an industry on themselves, elixir has a cert for the language, it is 3500 every 3 yrs, why do i need to be certified for a language that i have helped to create.
OKay the 1st job you reviewed they are basically looking for junior attorney i.e counsel. They absolutely make 120K -150K coming out of law school in an expensive city like San Francisco.
A cs degree is really useless now a days
That really depends on what you're trying to do. In controls automation you'll get hired on fast as a controls programmer.
CS computer science or CS cyber security?
Some of the job postings for the mid level have gotten crazy. There was a system admin job i was looking at and they had the regular sec+ cert requirement, the 3-5 years IT exp. Cool, then they wanna talk about oh you gotta have a PHD. Mind you the price range was only about 85-90k. The HR need to be more educated in the various fields they are hiring for, it’s ridiculous to see that while there is a filter to find the best experienced for the job, you also need to know what you looking for
HR might not even be involved now that it’s so simple
Finally someone saying the truth about getting into cybersecurity. its far too overrated everyone, companies are just not hiring. Cert are now even 10 days exam!! haha even Dr dont have a 10 day exam from HTB
What is the 10-day exam, please? Thanks
@@claudiamanta1943same question lol
Currently taking a Google certification and after watching this I’m dropping from going on. Thanks
My resume is not that all out for cyber role although i have vast IT experiences..but i have applied one or 2 cyber engineer but come out as nothing, not selected n no reasonings behind it. Its just kept silenced, a few mentioned over qualified but cant i be selected, beginnning to see my expectation too high, so what is the best expectation for an experienced guy like myself and at times client would inform me this budget, cannot exceed that range., thus ending up not getting that role altogether...that is the few problems i am having right till today.
I teach my folks that IT is the category of the Field. Information Technology (IT) within there are different pathways. Network, Cyber, Cloud etc... Now these people that post jobs, they mix everything up. 🤦🏽♂️
Great video. Keep it up! ✌🏽😎
You’re soo spot on! I have a masters of science in cybersecurity and they expect me to have 4-5 years of experience. Most of my experience is hands on project work during my
Masters program. No one wants to give a woman a chance! It’s soo draining applying this these positions and getting the same depressing response.
It’s not about woman, these days many companies promoting women in tech and shockingly, men are treated unfairly now
@@admannas123 at least she didnt play the other card lmfao
@@ultravioletiris6241 Don’t come for me with that crap! I will never play a race card! Show your face so I could see what you are! It’s about credentials period!
in Europe is still not satured...
Hi sir
I need your help
I am currently working as full stack engineer/ software engineer and have been professionally working for two years after teaching myself coding.
I want to go into cyber security specifically hacking , or malware analysis or pen testing.
What is recommendation based o your experience?
Thanks
I'm heavily considering noping out of IT. Too many companies think they can shirk security and cheapskate protecting customer data, others would outsource for pennies and get terrible support in return. DoD seems to be steady, but you're gatekept by clearance which means people who served and have active clearance gets first pick, even if they lack experience.
Feels like what looked like a promising career is now starting to have lower wages, 24/7 on call, and stress upon stress. Doesn't seem worth it. I crawled my way to L2 with some firewall, networking, server, security experience and it's a drop in the bucket compared to what they want just for "entry level SOC". Also been wanting to change states, since tech jobs in AZ, NV are pretty awful. CA I'm already priced out, so I'm looking at OR, WA, or even TX, CO if the north west is too expensive.
I am actually shocked to hear that cyber security is saturated. I figured if anything in IT this would be the thing in the highest demand. The 2 biggest things I hear more than anything else in I.T. is Cyber Security and A.I.
It is the highest and plenty more graduating straight out of college holding cyber degrees
it and cyber sec are the new fast food jobs.
I think the pivot is to AI.
Big facts . I’m an email developer and can relate to everything you said . 💯 💯💯
Every cyber job I look at on linkedin has 100+ people applying to it. It almost better to find an IT job that has an internal security team and just make a move at some point
I think there is a massive disconnect with Hiring Managers/HR and Job Seekers. The latter is primarily looking for Unicorns that can do Everything and unwilling to train new or transitional professionals. An agree that the certifications are extremely overrated in the industry.
I kept checking the video settings to see if I left the playback speed to 1.25x
There are not many entry level jobs in Cyber Security. Most of them require you to already have experience. Unless you have good connections.
It’s getting to that point . You are not wrong
Thank you! I'm starting school soon to get my BS in Cys at a school that provides 15 certs with the degree and have an associates Business admin, this video really helped me feel a lot better about my situation.
Do you have any advice for me? I'm 24 atm and already working in tech, I'm working in UAT so I'm mainly the bridge between our client and our dev/data/architecture/visionary teams, working closely with qa and the client to make sure everything works as expected. I'm very pleased at my current situation but I'm struggling a little bit understanding how to leverage all my current experience with what I'm learning at school to eventually make the transition into a more cys focused role in a year or so.. I know being in the tech industry already and specially my role will make it a bit easier but I'm still trying to piece it together, I've been looking into information assurance/security .. that seems like would make more sense to transition into once I graduate (?)
Thank you for this video. Helpful and informative.
You should add BOA to the list of companies...letting IT or cyber security leave..
Good video. Thanks.
The slashes have never stopped -- been here since before I started in Hollywood in the 90's. There it was writer/producer/actor or director/writer/producer. Now it's the alphabet soup slashes of IT. OMGurrr!
Great video, man. I'm looking to get into cybersecurity. Do you provide mentorship?
Great Video!!! Tons of information. I have been wondering the same thing about the IT job market in 2024. Im putting feelers out there for a Network Engineer or Network Technician role. Either way, it looks like its going to be hard to find a tech job in 2024. Its going to come down to your location and how flooded that market is with talent.
Appreciate you being here!
I have recently finished my masters course in cyber security. I am in the UK so I literally worried about my career, I don't know how to become an employee in the cyber security field..
assist me , I am stuck badly now ..
currently have a bachelors in marketing and a data analytics cert with the intention of getting more, I've been considering pursuing a masters in CIS with a concentration in cybersecurity but am trying to see if that is worth it compared to joining Isaca and still racking up more certifications?
2-3 million jobs not filled how is it saturated?! 😂
Check the amount of comment and forums on who is still looking. And actually landing a job. Jobs not filled is because companies want a unicorn
@@CyberHAC100k true but to say it’s saturated is a misnomer. The best talent are at FAANG and then your average Fortune 500.
@@CyberHAC100ksounds like dating market. Women complain they are single but reject most guys hahaha
@@CyberHAC100k certain jobs have wanted unicorns for scamming purposes for decades, that didn’t just start now. Some jobs wanted unicorns because of a saturated market. Some jobs don’t know how to read and understand requirements and just copy pasta what their next competitor did.
Point is there isn’t a singular reason or logic behind companies, jobs and talent being in a stalemate often. Best thing to do is accept that you need to apply. Applying will not be fair or fun. You may need to put in 50 to 250 applications.
But I would suggest not being discouraged by the lack of professionalism some HR and talent recruiters have.
I have my OSCP, SEC+, and a Cyber Engineering degree with 1 year experience as a pentester and still can't get back any call back's. I think you left out an important part about finding a job; most of the time it is who you know and not what. Networking with people is important and the more networking someone can do the greater chances they will have to land a job. Any job opportunity I have ever had was from someone I know. @@CyberHAC100k
GREAT CHANNEL AS WELL!!!
So basically it’s not worth going into cybersecurity now? Cuz I’m deciding if I should learn it & switch careers. I’m currently a civil engineer for the government & it’s stable
@@OiVinn-eq1ml worth is how much you will value the change. It will be hard to say since it’s different for each person. I understand govt jobs and know how stable ….but very dull it can get
@@CyberHAC100k I don't mind change I guess. I just want a more active job where I don't fall asleep like in my current role lol
@@CyberHAC100k Agree 😅
I like how real this video is. Appreciate the information
IT support person= cost unit. So people, do it for the love of the industry and don't get hung up on it so you'll either be miserable or better move to something else. (Edit: I know, you should try to look to grow, improve, make better wages and benefits, blah blah blah, but at the end of the day, it's a cost unit.)
I like this gentleman....He is good.
Thank you
companies always run 'fake' ads...
My number one add is to learn Cyber Security
Hi
Could I ask you what about cdsa or ccd which one is better?
It was so good to listen to you. I think I can do this all day!
😊 thanks
hello, to those who use laptops than a desktop for convenience or probably preference purposes, do you use mac or which type of laptop do you have
Can you advice Cyber Security for works .
I do garden and landscape and getting tired and old .
I want spent little money to learn cyber security for works
Look up online what you can do and do your research for the specific things you're looking for. Keep in mind that if you want an easy way out, then that's not how reality works unless your parents are straight up CEO of a big company and they just throw you a position to learn. If you want something in life, you're going to have to work hard for it. They are all out there for you to grab. The question is what do you want to do to achieve those? Most companies want young people that are up to date with their inventions and coding and all of those. If you're an older person, you have to ask yourself what do you have to offer to this field that companies will choose you over other younger people?
You need to develop an useful skill that can sell yourself as a product that most other people can't do. That's the key here. Otherwise, you're just a liability to the companies and they don't want liability or dead weight.
After listening to your video, which was very helpful. My situation is that I’m getting my masters in cyber security. so what should be my expected outcome? 😮
Do as many labs and or industry software depending on which route you’re planning to take. Red or Blue team. Master degree alone won’t speak volume without some practical knowledge of current tools
I have 35yrs of tech exp from help desk, thru admin, thru AD, thru virtualization, thru engineering & wifi.
Im currently on disability, which sucks. Im taking Azure training towards cloud sec. After cloud sec, I plan to get Sec+, then CISSP. I will do labs to acquire skills along the way so that employers will readily see my value. Thoughts?
Sounds like a good plan! Wish all the best!
I had a CCNA a Palo Alto and two AWS certs. I had no idea there was a fee. I just let it expire
What is a realistic entry level starting salary, I'm in the army soon to start getting my bachelor's in cyber security and eventually follow that path, what is a realistic view of the pay in this field?
Just stay in the army and use that as a leverage to find IT jobs because they'll pay for you to get trained. You're not going to get that kind of benefits outside in civilian world. In regard to your expectation of salary, it depends on what kind of position you're trying to go into. My best advice is that you should look up the average salary online for the job you're looking for. Cyber security is a very broad term. There are specifications that falls under that. That's why you should do your own research. There's always a low to high end of that job, so try to hit that bulk point because company will try to lower you salary of what you're expecting.
You should take advantage of the numerous handouts given to vets. There are a bajillion free certs, mentorships, scholarships for SANS, and tons of companies do Skillbridge internships or whatever its called. You don’t have to be nearly as competitive to land a Skillbridge vs corporate internships. These opportunities are often a boys club tho, so don’t piss off your coworkers or superiors
The job market is too saturated
I've been considering getting my BA in Cyber Security. It's a 3-year program would you still recommend it? Conversely, what is a better alternative to study in IT?
Depends on the finances. A lot can be learned for free and hands on.
After watching your video, it’s seems like landing a job at a financial institution wouldn’t be a terrible idea. I’m currently studying cybersecurity at Purdue
Can never go wrong with that
I switched my major and decided to switch to IT. I will finish school in December, and I feel IT is very broad. I don't know what jobs to start applying for. It seems like I will still need to choose a path to get more experience. I am debating whether I should focus on the cybersecurity certifications or just get the CCNA. Any advice?
Ccna have networking that other certificates only focus in cybersecurity
Hey CyberHAC, thanks for this video. Was needing to hear this, i have one question to you for helping me in my situation. I live in Argentina, here there are a few cyber jobs. Whats your point of view about the greatest way to get a job in the US, i have god skills (preparing the CISSP exam) but little experience. Thanks for your context videos
Cybersecurity is important in any country, so more awareness and better protection is in the corporate and public interest.
Have you spoken to companies that provide cybersecurity services in your country? It’s in their interest to raise public awareness and sell their products and services. Contact other non-IT business related companies that operate in Argentina and tell them you can help them be compliant with the Argentinian data protection legislation. What have you got to lose? Maybe you will even start a beneficial movement, who knows?
Good luck.
I can't even find a job.
I've been looking and doing udemy for hands on training.
Just keep at it!
@@CyberHAC100k I'm I doing the right thing to learn more on udemy
Maybe I can ransomware a company. Decent benefits and competitive salary will get their files decrypted.
😂
This video did very well for you no still growing
Thankyou
This is so true
Hey bro can u make some stuff for freshers or junior developers
i gave up because of the recruiters/hr as a software developer of 37 years, the market is gone. corperate has mass hired entry level 1-5 yr devs, it took me 7000 hrs erlang/elixir exp to be qualified to get a call back from my last job, which after 1 yr an employees 18 yr old kid graduated hs and i was laid off. after you get older you will realize its not about skill its about who is in charge, mommy hr devalues senior engineers so her entitled child can have a try, thats why it is so hard, engineers get tired of being devalued for children and interns, i was trying to raise a family, but an 18 yr old had more value, i hate this industry. im not paying 40 bands in income tax like i did last year because i have no income thanx hr mommy.
Jezz man, i just saw the HTB promotion and i saw this 🤣
projects help you stand out, certs are to get past ai filters
Should I go to school for cyber security or should I just build up certs or both ?
it really depends on your finances. But it I had to choose, I would build my skills with experiences and certs.
@@CyberHAC100k thank you very much
AWS vs Azure? Which is the best?
Haha though one. Personally AWS only because I use it now ;)
That’s why I’m getting out and moving to AI/ML
Not a bad move
cyber is getting hard to switch jobs, the requirements are going crazy and very varied! and there are way tooo many certifications, and most of it is not required, practical knowledge is imp not certs. how many freakong certs can/should one get? its insane! eff the certs!
Maybe we should only apply for jobs if we don't need them. Let's become millionaires first and then apply for jobs. We will be able to walk in the interview and show the hiring managers that 1) we have most of the qualifications required including certs, 2) we don't have the unrealistic amount of experience they're expecting (remember it is an entry-level position), and 3) we are there not for the money but because we could be a valuable asset to them.
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Its always a good day when CyberHAC uploads
Is there any way I could do a 1 on 1 call with you?
Let’s work something out for next week. Email me
Did you find a new role yet?
I did start a new position in the last 6 month. 😊
I have been in Cybersecurity for about 5 years, I just got laid off in February and now it is April and May is coming up and I have been submitting my Resume, constantly and keep up to date, studying and on top I have 20 years in the IT industry but so far!!!! nothing; I have never before seen such a saturation, no calls, no email replies, just dead!
Poor guy. Sorry for your experience. Economy is part of it. Keep on grinding.
These certifications are garbage.
This field is something the AI could really do well.
not really
@@ventsislavyuzekchiev8304 yes really