B.A. Ambedkar and the fight over India’s name | If You're Listening | ABC News
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- India has two names. It has had two names since its independence in 1947. The architect of the constitution designed it that way. But his story parallels that of the country, grappling with a colonial links and mired by social class.
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B.R Ambedkar rose from the lowest caste to a celebrated hero. Now he has become a cultural flashpoint and the result could push India's ruling party to change the name of the country forever.
00:00 A curious G20 invitation
02:16 Writing India's constitution
04:00 India's caste system
05:02 B.R Ambedkar's early life and education
07:31 Partition
11:00 Naming a new country
12:22 The mythical origians of Bharat
14:20 Narendra Modi's BJP
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I am Australian and lived in India for 6 years in the late 80s, early 90s: before the BJP was in power. I have ALWAYS heard India called by two other names by normal Indians themselves: Bharat and Hindustan. If you understand and read Indian languages, you will find Bharat prevelant. Truck drivers (who may not even be hindus) often write Mahan Bharat - Great India on their trucks. It is part of popular culture. India as a name is historically linked to what foreign visitors/invaders called it, linked to the Indus river and then further popularised during colonisation. Even Hindustan stems from the Persians/Arabs: The place of Hindus. Bharat may well be the only name that truly comes from the Indians themselves. I find it so hypocritical. India is the actual birthplace of hindusim and the culture is strongly linked to this (like Westerner's Judo-Christian bias) . Why on earth would it be a problem to name India something closer to it's roots - and a name already enshrined in their constitution? False debate.
"Hindu" originates from the Sanskrit word "Sindhu", so even though the -IA and -STAN have foreign origins the core of the word is local
I am Indian
In my mother tongue we call India Bharat (Bharat Desham)
Most Indian languages do
Modi himself is a lower caste guy
Infact major bjp leaders are not from. ,upper caste😂😂😂
U just made a copy of al Jazeera propoganda
Narendra Modi is modi from Modh Ghanchi sub caste of Modh Baniya caste which makes him Vaisya by varna system but BC by caste system
The reason he was given Prime ministership by BJP was Because the upper caste communities care about varna system and they vote for him.
The lower caste people vote for him thinking he is from BC.
Hindutva brigade will vote for him being thankful for his role in 2002.
He is the holy trifecta of psudo-nationalist, self proclaimed establishers and protectors of hindu rashtra(hindu nation) in India.
Well India is the Greek name for the land around the Indus, so I can see why Indians would want to change the name to reflect an internal culture and history.
Do you think that the many non-Hindu Indians and the many Hindu Indians who opposes the BJP Hindu nationalism want to see their country given a name associated with Hindu nationalism?
My friend from Germany really feels that everyone should call his country Deutschland.
I've heard a lot of native English speakers talking about this recently. None of them seem to be able to pronounce the name Bharat correctly.
They can’t pronounce any Indian name correctly period
You brought up caste system
Out front as hell stereotypical music
Will you mention MODI is LOWER CASTE
I like how each conversation about India starts from the lens of casteism. which is not even Indian.
I have a simple argument to make. India is an immensely diverse country so why do you see all of that through the lens of casteism. Why do you assume that people were oppressed everywhere?
why do you think some people were not allowed to read holy texts everywhere?
You have carefully crafted this video. Choose Ambedkar to focus on. conveniently separating all of the people into different groups even though Sikhs, untouchables and Hindus are the same. completely ignoring the fact that Victor writes the history.
Why do you consider what the British wrote as the history of India is credible?
Bharat is a name that every Indian wants. it is about connecting back with the thousands of years of continuous civilization. This is the last ditch effort of the western block to undermine India.
Not all indians want "Bharat" to be the only name. Most are ok with both the names being used, just like they are currently. And no, they are not "anti-India".
India holding as a single country is an achievement in itself
Smt. Indira Gandhi always addressed the nation as BHARAT -- even our national anthem calls the country BHARAT.
I request you pls. conduct thorough research on this topic.
Linking the ancient Indian civilization's name with untouchability and some unfortunate isolated incidents during the current govt. regime seems like a twisted logic.
Being a British Colony they called Bharat as "India" Simply for their Convenience. Ambedkar kept the name India because that was the name recognized by West . We were also not strong enough so Name was not even the highest priority India was left to rot with hunger now India is 5th largest Economy so take pride in our original name.
i think both you and they are missing the point. the name of the place isn't india, that's just what it's called in english. this whole thing is as silly as changing the name for pineapple to ananas - it has nothing to do with the name and everything to do with the language you're speaking. the official name can be whatever they like, but when we're speaking about it in english it's referred to as india, in japanese it's indo, in czech it's indie, in arabic it's alhind, etc.
Thank you
Anybody who has visited India knows it goes by the name Bharat - and has officially for a long time - what's new here??
BRUH
You know Netherlands and Hollander are synonymous don’t you? You know they are Dutch?
This isn’t a new name for india it is its native name. You can still refer to it as India and Indians
Where have you learnt the indian history? You need to do your research properly
You are mispronouncing Bharat, horribly. By conflating Bharat with casteism and Hindu Nationalism you’re just pissing on Bharat’s long history and literary traditions. India is a western colonial name carrying the baggage of the worst aspects of colonialism. Instead of India, Hindustan should have been used. This is the name used by the former mogul empire and the lslamic world. Originally Hindus were simply people living in Hindustan regardless of religion. Thanks to the British, it came to denote a religious marker that people in Bharat have adopted
Melbourne - > Mumbai Sounds good too...
what a bunch of bs
Sooo ill informed i mean look at the producers and writers no indain among them what more to expect typical west😂🤦♂️
Your complaint is that a western channel is not employing Indian workers? What will it take to stop Indians from using the "victim card" everywhere? 🙄
i just finished this video and now i feel more disgusted with this viewpoint. extremely misleading.
Nihon is more common than Nippon in Japan…I think Nippon is seen to have a lot of historical baggage………
I asked a Hindu coworker several years ago and completely from my interest in etymology: Is there a name for her country other than India and Bharat? India is what the Europeans called it and Bharat while being a name originating in her country, may not be embraced by the non-Hindu minority. Her answer she whispered…Hind. It is my understanding that Hind is purely geographical as it is older than the religion, and Hinduism means faith of the people of Hind. I gathered that this however might be disputed given my coworker’s hushed tone. As the descendant of Europeans and aboriginal peoples of the USA, these things are…complicated.
That was wildly interesting.
Exciting times for ItiB ☺ good report, thanks
A bit disappointing how you repeatedly refer to them as “untouchables” instead of their preferred name. I mean once is ok as a “also known as” to demonstraste the discrimination they faced, but over and over again was a bit cringey, especially in a video that’s discussing correct name usage.
Radcliffe’s accent caught me off guard hahaha
Edit:
Bharat isn’t just used by Hindus in India. A lot of other religious minorities use it as well. I get what’s being said here but India as a name also represents ongoing “colonialism”, a name given by oppressors.
The caste system was attempted to be abolished by the current gov and previous ones but it seems to have just gotten worse. I don’t agree with it. Most don’t agree with it. It’s a small minority that exists in every nation on different issues that seem to perpetuate it. Because India is a large nation in population, you’ll obviously see more examples of it.
Rahul ghandi is an opportunistic politician that is part of the family that caused the Sikh genocide in 1984. So this guy talking about unity is hilarious to me. He is the epitome of division. He isn’t fit to be PM. If the opposition actually held up a decent opposition leader they may have a chance. I don’t like modi too much either but the corruption is rampant on that side as it has always been. It’s time for nepotism to end in the Congress party. It’s not healthy for one gov to have too much time in government. It emboldens them too much.
Another baseless biased opinion
I’m not at all interested in the politics of the country…not into politics at all but what intrigues me is the history of the name and it’s people…The name India is originally from Sindhu Sanskrit (classic language )……the Indus River….the word Bra-hat (Bharata….romanised… is ancient Hindu Puranas..Hindustan,)…India depends on the context and language of the locations….I was married to a cast member of an Indian from Gujarat..so this is nothing new because I helped my daughter trace her family tree…she discovered she has Persian, Bangladeshi, Sinhalese and Ceylonese (Sri Lanka)..it is one of the oldest civilisations to exist.
Wow, this video is truly fascinating! I always enjoy watching these in the night shift from Germany and really savor them. Greetings from Germany to Australia! 🌍🇩🇪🇦🇺 Keep up the great work! 👍
Why don't you be honest and say "as a Hindu Nationalist and adherent of Modism this video is biased" as that is really where your complaint comes from isn't it. Your suggestion that you speak for all Indians is laughable.
Wow, what a combination! A fan of Hindu fascism who also like radical woke ideology. My family is Hindu. But we also believe in tolerance of other religions and cultures. Any good future for India lies in these values rather than in Hindu fascism.
@@Jun_kidthe majority is a history of India which is understandable from context. Most of us watching do not presume the past is the present...
@@Jun_kidyou're coming across as very defensive and precious. No one is attacking you or present day India. Calm down mate ❤
@@Guaguanco11guy in videos sad modi is promoting attacks against Dalits & Buddhists. Pure bs. Quite the contrary.
The Tibetan Buddhist hugely like modi
Ironically Modi is a lower cast guy
As soon as it comes to BJP and Modi, the lack of research or the bias of the white skin shines, Mod himself is from backward caste and so his most of his ministers, 1st Prez a Dalit/Harijan 2nd Tribal, and lol most Dalits still vote for Modi in general elections. India is complicated, you cannot become overnight expert, keep your opinions within margin of error or everybody will know you are a racist.
Narendra Modi is modi from Modh Ghanchi sub caste of Modh Baniya caste which makes him Vaisya by varna system but BC by caste system
The reason he was given Prime ministership by BJP was Because the upper caste communities care about varna system and they vote for him.
The lower caste people vote for him thinking he is from BC.
Hindutva brigade will vote for him being thankful for his role in 2002.
He is the holy trifecta of psudo-nationalist, self proclaimed establishers and protectors of hindu rashtra(hindu nation) in India.
@@Guaguanco11 - 1)you may want to define OBC by your terms, but neither central list nor state list or discrimination in vilages will reduce due to your agreement. Also Trader (Baniya) caste is in OBC list in Bihar, Tamil Nadu and even Karnataka.
2) Most of the social welfare schemes benifits the lower caste people. If schemes run efficiently, more people will vote. Home, gas, water, or even electricity schemes underwhelmingly benifits UCs. Hindutva brigade also voted for Vajpaye, but thats not enough to win.
I can go on, but you need to read more.
Great video.
audio information given on video was correct and thanks for that but... the map of india has been displayed distorted change it or else everyone report...
Map is as per international standards.
Discrimination amongst different varnas(Castes) was a social problem not religious one, I couldn't find a single religious text which says to discriminate against different people.
You can not say Caste system was wrong, it was discrimination amongst caste system. Immediately after independence, representatives from all social castes decided to fight against this discrimination, it was not only BR Ambedkar (as he wasn't a dictator) & multiple steps were taken to tackle this including reservation system, free scholarship, free financial support to start business, early promotion in government jobs, all called as positive discrimination measures. today because of these reasons these so called lower caste are more successful than so called upper caste.
Debate is more on the side of excessive benefits being given to so called lower caste people that too from past many generation, which itself doesn't follow "RIGHT TO EQUALITY"
thank you for another great video… as always! 👍🏻
Mate, not sure why are you linking Bharat name with untouchability. I didnt find this discussed in either Ambedkar's writings or Constitution assembly debates.
I sincerely apologise that Indians used to call their land Bharat in around 500 BC, I now know its a Hindu name. We should have consulted Christians and Muslims on a secular name.
Use of Sanskrit as a factor is equivalent to you blaming English for atrocities on Aboriginal
You cant even hide your racism, can you?
india’s constitution contains almost 150,000 words and is the world’s longest…. talk about being long winded hahaha
Whichever govt stays in power in INDIA, it's western media's agenda to keep criticizing it for nothing, distort stories about India to paint it in bad picture.
Racism in the west is still 10X bigger problem in the west than Caste system in INDIA, India started taking steps against discrimination against caste system immediately after independence by taking positive discrimination measures but West has not taken any measures to fight against Racism.
You must be a teenage to say stuff like that!
@@zxasdfx No, when I was a teenager, I blindly used to trust any media report, articles from west. But after observing 1000s of giant western media articles, I found myself eligible to make that assessment.
West hide some critical points, highlight unnecessarily few points to shape the narratives which I consider a very different subject.
West control global media narratives, countries of global south don't have a voice at all.
Its funny english doesn't have correct proununciation of alphabelts "भ" & "त"😂
Despicable ! How would u feel if we call Christ and all his stories as mythical ? How dare you called our history as ‘mythical’ ? Also, what’s with the map ? Is this video sponsored by ISI ? Your channel should be banned in Bharat for such a gross and blatant misrepresentation of facts about Bharat’s map ! Shameful !
Whether a story is mythical has nothing to do with a what people call modern nation.
4:16 factual error there this nothing such as outside of four varnas ( group roughly translated) caste i sword comes from portuguese word casta not bharatiya word. all our revered is fluid and changes based on word you do not rigid by birth as so on as mentioned in video
BHarat is name common among general public here in india ....... but our visionary leader nehru ji white man under brown skin have some other plans that's why we end up stuck with this name. which means nothing, btw if name changes happens it will reflect peoples aspiration and will of common people
You follow the standard Hindu Nationalist trick of conflating "x is popular among Hindu nationalists" with "x is popular among the people of India". Shame on you!
Step out of your right-wing bubble. Both India and Bharat is common among general public in India. And no, those people are not "anti-India".
@@zxasdfx feel free to think doesn't change ground reality
Good luck with it all.
Bharat is derived from bhrata a Sanskrit word and means brother same as in some Indo-European languages. When they mean brotherhood it's the brotherhood of lineage, with the division of castes and languages present in the country we all are never used to the religious or political camaraderie that is present in other parts of the world. Instead of putting the country forward by negating the past divisions it's being regressed to the unnecessary past.
Nice try on the pronunciations.
Abe sahi se bol to le
印度改名婆罗多，巴基斯坦改名印度，大家都很高兴，不是？
All lies in this video
I am from Bharat that is India and proud migrant in Australia.
Narendra Modi is the best leader in the history of the nation and he is best in the world today among other leaders.
Our country is recognising how the bloody British tried to disrupt our education systems, our heritage and culture.
We are Bharat 🇮🇳
This makes the response of India to the recent allegations from Canada even more worrying
Why?
So many reductionisms i had to double take, terrible video 😊