Can we point out that compared to a lot of TV dads, both Cartoon and live, Oscar actually loves his family and isn't a jerkass, manchild, or a psychopath or constantly whining about how awful his family is?
but his love for his family isn’t justified. He’s a loser and everybody close to him is constantly reminding him of it. I really feel constantly torn between whether to feel sympathy for him or feel like he deserves everything that happens to him. Chicken or the egg, really. Was he villified for being a jerk or did he become a jerk for being neglected as a son?
>Isn't a jerkass... There was literally a scene in an episode where he went flat out sexist and told Trudy that she was the woman and he was the man, and demanded that she cooked dinner. >...manchild There have been many occasions where he started whining like a child and cried out to his mom for help. Can't really say anything for psychopath and whining about his family, but he is definitely the first two examples. Still my favorite character though.
@@joelblake5310 jerkass-- while He's not as outright malicious as peter griffin for example but he will abuse and/or take advantage of anyone who tries to help him if he thinks he can make a buck because he's largely fueled by his failures and insecurities which can override his judgement. (Especially in the new series) he's very condescending to women and children whom he feels he out ranks in society.. i'd say these qualities make him a jerkass. He definitely a Manchild He whines about his mother's treatment of him, how she favors Bobby, and how his family doesn't listen to him or respect him. I dont think he's a psychopath
@@theluigifan1 True. His charisma is probably how he did get a commercial and a promotional offer on a big TV show. He clearly has some good knowledge as an entrepreneur. Now that I think about it, isn't it weird how the show never really answers how the Prouds are well off despite Proud Snax being in the toilet? I know it was said that Trudy pays the bills, but if that's the case, the Proud house doesn't look like it would be cheap to pay for. Add on to that Oscar owning a factory, paying for promotional material, and still having money for allowance. Is Oscar Proud guilty of money laundering on top of possibly multiple homicides? And if he is, is he aware? It's probably not a stretch to think Proud Snax have the potential to be deadly.
Idk if idiot is the right word, but I hate how they maximize on his ignorance sometimes and have Suga Mama just verbally and physically abuse him all the time. The writers made him so pathetic.
It's true that Oscar was overprotective of Penny, especially when it comes to boys and dating, but the show made it pretty clear that it was out of love and concern for her wellbeing and not just a sitcom cliche of the father not wanting a child to date/be romantic/ect. Yes he gets carried away, but he means well in the end. Same between him and his wife. Trudy doesn't disrespect him (though he sometimes sees it that way) but usually she knows when to come rein him in before it gets out of hand.
Sugar Mama was pretty abusive to Oscar but there were some episodes that showed that she really loved him. Oscar loves his mother, he only jokes around but then Sugar Mama takes it too personally.
Louder and Prouder is airing right now and I'm happy to say they did not screw it up. Oscar is still a bit hard headed but they did not make him dumb. Still a good father and husband.
Kind of did make him like an idiot. Since he stole an idea from someone for snack land, trying to up the Wizard and not opened for many things like in Father Figures he forbid Penny being friends with Maya and KG cause they have two dads on account of he never met them or even get to know them since he's what he is. Not to mention he even won't admit he is wrong or can't except most things like when Bebe was diagnosed with Autism. He maybe a good father at times, but most times all he cares about trying to make his nasty snacks well known to the public like in Snackland episode where he fired Penny and the others for Lizzo and even ruined Penny's Get In business when he made a fake driver's license for Mr. Chips for a EPA inspection since he uses monkeys to eat his awful snacks and one to work in his factory and if that doesn't scream 'health inspector' then Oscar needs to find a job he can really do
I personally like to think the whole cheap skate thing comes from the fact he knows Trudy makes more money then him so he doesn’t feel right spending her money. I also like to think that while animal abuse is very wrong but Bebe and Cece give puff the business because of how often Puff gives Oscar the business.
@@Reviewer2016 Also, Bebe and Cece are babies with a lack of conscious. Sure, the show points out that they're kinda intelligent and care about their family, but it's not like they have a perfect understanding of what's right or wrong since, you know, they're babies that can't talk for the most part? I think that's why Puff's Magical Adventures was written in the first place, to show that there's a difference when the twins mistreat Puff as opposed to every other family member, who, might I add, are people that should know better.
Tbh I think we got the house husband pov with Oscar and Trudy. Truly being the breadwinner as a Vet and Oscar being the house figure while running proud snax. House never looks bad and the kids are growing up fine. Also Trudy still sees Oscar as a man even in this difference in position. One thing I did just notice about the proud family.
@@kingkai_3954 I wouldn't mind being a house husband not having to work just cleaning the house making dinner and taking care of the children and if you're really good you don't have to clean the house every week if you deep clean twice a month
Oscar isn’t greatest dad but he’s better than other terrible dads like Peter Griffin, Bob Pataki, Mr. Turner, Mr. Krabs, Martin, Sterling, Rusty Venture, Stan and Jake Smith, Levar Brown, Randy Marsh and other South park dads Rand Ridley, don’t get me started on Ozai.
Rusty does care for his kids he’s just not the best but he is a million times better then his dad who was revealed to be a monster final season. Plus he clones his sons when they die when he could not bother
wait how is Mr krabs a terrible dad? Like don't get me wrong he's a horrible _person_ but from what I recall he's mostly just meh at worst usually when it comes to parenting
@@dooplon5083 i feel like it's flat out impossible to judge a character on spongebob. you have to specify where and when to be accurate, because every character has great and terrible episodes. in good episodes, if a character is acting unlikable, you are never meant to like how the character is acting. you could say he does a good enough job if his daughter affectionately helps him with his medications, or a terrible job if you pick an episode where he only cares about money and nothing else. he's also concerned like any other parent should be in some situations.
"No dating, until after you're married." That always sounded stupid to me. Don't you need to do one in order to fulfill the other? That's like the old saying "You can't get experience without a job, and you can't get a job without experience."
That's kind of the point. He's afraid of Penny growing up and no longer being his "little girl". Though at the end of that particular episode when discussing dating, he did relent and tell Penny she can start doing so when she turns 16 (the writers forgot that detail in the reboot).
I actually have a theory about Suga Mama. The reason why he treats Bobby as her favorite is because she knows his music can only go so far and had no choice but to baby him since he has no skills to stand on his own 2 feet. Meanwhile, Oscar DID develop those skills and that's why he can afford a house(guessing in full and no mortgage), education for his three kids, having a loving wife, and trying and failing his own business. I think subconsciously he DOESN'T want to be his mom's favorite cause that means he'll be living with her for the rest of his life mooching off of her just like Bobby is. AND the fact that Suga Mama always has Oscar's back one way or another proves that she really loves her son. Don't know if you saw louder and prouder yet but it turns out that Suga Mama's childhood was almost more abusive than what she's doing all because she's a girl and she's trying hard not to repeat it. Is she failing at that? In some points yes but I can already tell she a WAY better parent than her own daddy.
Sugar Mama is terrible mother and Trudy is not really a good wife (Oscar ain't perfect but he's 100% loyal unlike her) and sometimes tries too hard to be the "Cool Mom" which is irresponsible.
I think one of the main reasons Oscar has bad luck is because he has no respect for anyone else. For example he is making money selling his snacks with penny playing football, but when she gets hurts and doctor pain says that she might have a broken leg the only thing Oscar says is we need a actual real doctor to look at her. In other words he goes against people if the don’t go his way.
you nailed my beef with Sugar Mama, Bobby still lives with his mom and living a dream that doesn't pay but Oscar made his own job, yes his snakes were garbage but he made the entire enterprise himself, his a solid marriage, kids and a house. at the end of the day Oscar was the successful child and Bobby dead beat.
I always felt bad for Oscar. He always tries and fails, and though he can get pretty big headed when he has a success, given how often people put him down, both his parents included, you can’t really blame him. You actually feel for him. I know it’ll probably never happen, but I hope Oscar one day gets a grandiose win that no one could take away from him, especially Wizard Kelly. Well, a grandiose win that isn’t his family. Now that is a success you can never rob Oscar of.
It has been FOREVER since I have seen The Proud Family, but even now when I think of Oscar I remember that he was a good father and husband. ... although the thing that sticks out the most in my memory was just how horrendously he got bullied in the show despite what a good dude he was deep down. Not just by Sugar Momma, but everyone in general. Poor guy...
I think Oscar Proud is the reason why I love this show; he's such an entertaining character. Plus, the voice acting, while not perfect, is amazing for this guy. Tommy Davidson really did a great job voicing him. The only issue I have with him is that he sometimes talks way too fast that it's hard to understand what he's saying.
I have to disagree about Oscar taking Sugar Mama's insults too personally. She's his mum for heaven's sake. I really don't like the way you turn constant verbal abuse by a parent into even partially the kid's problem, even if Oscar isn't a child anymore. She's pretty well always treated him like that.
Oscar proud was a great father and husband. It's nice to see him getting acknowledged for being more than a moron. On a side note, the running gag about Mike Lou and Ogg is getting a bit stale. No disrespect, but perhaps it's time to let that one go.
8:48. It's also worth pointing out that Suga Mama sang a song to Oscar telling him that he should believe in himself more, instead of looking himself down. The problem is that Oscar never really picks this up; what he just interpreted from the song was that Suga Mama sang something so heartwarming to him. He didn't really understand the true message as to what she wants him to pick up on. He only rejected the offer from Wizard Kelly because he was in a very emotional state as well as thinking that's what Suga Mama wanted him to do. Literally after the whole foot fiasco, Oscar still wanted to make snacks similar to Suga Mamas since, even if the secret behind them is kinda messed up and everyone knows about it at that point, they were still very successful snacks. True, while he stated that "snack making is in his blood," making it seem like he's believing in himself, in reality, he's really not. He's just doing what was already successful instead of doing something else that might've gotten him another form of success. And the fact that everyone knows that Proud Snack's reputation is already ruined further because of the foot fiasco, and yet he still wants to do what Suga Mama did, just proves this further. This episode really aged well. Also, people need to realize that a "dumb or foolish dad" being so prevalent has a reason for being so prevelant. The purpose is to give these guys a character and make them more interesting. Granted, media should do more than just make most fathers idiots or buffoons, but the purpose is there. Imagine if these parents didn't have any personality, and instead they're just the nice and perfect dads. That's not good entertainment; that makes the parents super forgettable and boring. Plus, a dumb dad or a silly dad can work really well. There's a reason why Jimmy Neutron and Proud Family fan's usual favorite characters are Hugh and Oscar since they're memorable and funny, even if they do have some problems being effective parents. Meanwhile, Kim's father from Kim Possible is what I'd consider to be an almost idealistic father. Sure, he makes dad jokes and can be a bit overprotective, but he's an overall nice dad. But most Kim Possible fans probably wouldn't even put him in a favorites list since there are other more interesting characters in that show.
I just feel plain terrible for him, your mother treating you like crap ( since you was a kid as well ), your wife and kids being disappointed in you. I’m pretty sure that would drive anyone crazy
@@Dark-xv9iz There are times where I feel bad for him, but Trudy and Penny being disappointed in him is justified, because Oscar has genuinely done a lot of terrible things.
I mean, Hugh Neutron was another case of a dumb dad done right, at least he was supportive of his son even though he didn't know half the crap Jimmy was talking about and very loving and loyal towards his wife. At least he was better as a parent then Timmy Turner's dad, TT's dad straight up neglected his kid and stated many a time Timmy was a mistake.
I think Hank Hill might be one of the best dad and husband I've seen in a show. He might be conservative in his ways but you have to admit he gets results at the end of the day.
Agreed. I think so many shows try to do the "dumb dad" done right approach but most of them often fail at it for varying reasons, or they just make them out to be just the dumb dad, with little to no redeeming qualities outside of them just being "funny." I think Oscar is the right blend of a dumb dad being played up for laughs with his shenanigans, but he's redeemable enough to where you know his heart is often in the right place, which makes him easy to root for. I think another great example of the dumb dad done right is Tim Allen's character from "Home Improvement", as well. He was an idiot too, but he always knew when to do the right thing, and when to ask for help when needed.
I noticed you didn’t mention Oscar, in terms of his qualities as a husband, would sometimes look at other women which bothered Trudy. Usually causing her to lash out at him.
The episode where Oscar tried to buy a suit from Andrew Johnson, but Johnson got drunk and took away his voting rights will always be my favourite episode.
Watched the show through and through--and surprise--would still place Oscar Proud in the category between Earl Sinclair and Big Bob Pataki. He is that much trouble that the whole world suffers the consequences.
I wonder if his mom prefers his brother because she feels he "needs" it more. Oscar has a wife, kids, his own business (even if it's not very successful), a nice house. But what does his brother have? He can sing? She might assume Oscar will be fine because he has a family that loves him, while his brother, not so much.
We need to critique the Overprotective Dad trope (sometimes it's projecting their own history with women on their daughters) and I have my disorganized thoughts on Trudy.
Woah, that background music is awesome, what’s the source? It definitely sounded like a Genesis game but I am not sure which, I’m thinking maybe Verytex, Midnight Resistance, or Thunder Force
I like this vid of your on Oscar showing more to him than what the show give him. I watch the show when I was younger and I Get what he was doing, and his goofy-ness. He's Not the brights but he not Mean Neather... I just a Shame what there doing to him in the New show... I hope you do Another Character Detail vid on the New show too. I just Hope they Don't screw Over Oscar.
Timmy's dad is very inconsistent: sometimes he's risking his life to save timmy like when he thought he was in the trunk of a car when in reality he was the car in the episode "engine blocked" or when him and timmys mom look all over dimmsdale to get timmy back and hijack a radio station to tell timmy they love him and want him to come home in channel chasers, even some later episodes in like season 7 show he cares for timmy to alot of other times where its just a dumb joke he dosent care about timmy. Mr turner isnt 100% a monster just extremely inconsistent thanks to the writers flip flopping his likeablity to fit the story or the jokes they wanna tell instead of being making jokes and writing around a consistent personality like u should do.
Timmy’s dad is a a-hole. He hates his nice neighbor out of envy. He becomes an evil dictator due to not getting a award in an alternate reality. He admits to Timmy that his hopes and dreams died when Timmy was born to me. I know those moments are portrayed in a comedic way it doesn’t change the fact he is a selfish jerk.
It would have been interesting if they were portrayed to really love their son, they’re just terrible at conveying that. But you’re absolutely right; they are inconsistent
Dunno. It's probably whatever Oscar put INTO the Snacks that made them so bad. I've never seen Oscar cook except one time he BURNED hotdogs, so I can only assume he's horrible at cooking! Plus, he's probably never tried eating his own recipies to test, but maskes them, packages them and TRIES to sell them!
@@kaytlinjustis5643 I'd accept that theory, My personal headcanon is that Oscar just threw every single flavor he could think of in there without regard to how they would all interact with eachother which is why they are taste awful.
9:47-9:50. In hindsight, this entire show's reception of its characters can be summed up with that one line: "Oh, Suga Mama's is a mother that picks favorites, so she's a bad character; oh Oscar is a bad dad because he's overprotective; oh Penny's friends are horrible, and they always treat her like crap (even if there are episodes where they all do help her on occasions, INCLUDING FUCKING DIJONAY, and Lacienega isn't supposed to be judged for being a bad friend when the show made it clear that she and Penny are not really friends, so it's expected of her not to treat her nicely." Like seriously, watch the fucking show deeply and then make these statements please. Also, sorry for making too many comments. I just really love The Proud Family a lot. I have so much to say about it.
I will be honest like I don’t think Oscar is like a bad dad compared to like other people to other dads and cartoons like Timmy turner’s dad is bad like bad bad even peter griffin you can say the same for Homer but like Stan Smith like to be honest he may not be like the best dad in the world or the smartest dad in the world but at least like he’s there that’s something that for me that like I like about Oscar mean I never have a dad he’s always in and out of my life
I think the reason why people hate Oscar is because the trope of an "overprotective dad" is kinda a hard sell nowadays, where society is encouraging people to be more independent and free-minded. Granted, people are right in the fact that Oscar does sometimes go a bit too far being overprotective to Penny (plus he is a bit unreasonable at times), but I think the show makes it clear that he does genuinely care about Penny and just wants her to be raised well (you know, like a typical good parent wants for their kid?). Also, you have to understand that Suga Mama has basically neglected him in favor of Bobby, so this is an example of him not trying to repeat her past mistakes. Plus, a lot of the things he's overprotective about are true (like he has a point where he doesn't know how the boys that Penny's interested in have been raised, so how can he truly trust Penny if he can't trust her potential partners). Furthermore, I do like how he a very believable parent that has his own goals and aspirations that, while yes does rub off on Penny unfortunately, makes him feel more human instead of just being "the generic parent" (One in a Million and Spelling Bee are very good examples of this, and I love how those episodes characterize him). He feels like the most realized parent of Disney Channel in my opinion, to the point where the other animated parents after him really feel like sanitized versions of him. I can understand why some people might like them more than Oscar, but Oscar has way more going for him.
I’d like to mention that people are bitching about the gay dads on the reboot while Oscar is a dead beat. Trudy is the soul provider and Oscar has no control in the household. It’s like it’s mirroring certain aspects.
Trudy is as guilty with flirting with other men, but that's only when things are like platonic between her and the other men (specifically the episode with Dave or her dance instructors). Plus, when she does actually get excited around men, its usually because they're celebrities, so you would except someone to act like her in those cases.
@@2crisp63What I meant is that she usually gets more excited with famous men than regular ones. She may play around with them for a while, but at the end of the day, she wouldn't leave Oscar for them ( in the episodes with Lou Rouls and Smokey Robinson, she was fangirling over them only for her to pretend they didn't exist later in those episodes).
In real life with all the mysogny, mental abuse, failed business ventures and overall childishness, Oscar would've been a single man for the rest of his life. Don't get me wrong he had his moments but they were so far and few it was hard to justify; of course bad inconsistent writing will do that
Oscar was a great family man with few mistakes but he’s damn sure Better then Mr Turner , Homer and Peter he ain’t perfect but his heart was always in the right place.
I honestly don't get why he feels the need to have a business. I mean Trudy Proud is a veterinarian and I think they'd be financially set if he lost his business.
My dad was exactly like Oscar. A skinny black man who tried and failed to make it in the business world. Miss him every day.
Sorry for your loss
God bless him and his proud snacks
Sorry for your loss 🙏❤️ rip to him
R.I.P Real Life Oscar Proud(He was Too cool For The World)
Not a dumb dad. But a Bumbling dad who may be crazy and over the top wacky. But usually tries to do the right thing and is mainly well-intentioned
But goes to far and screws up
And he doesn’t fail the mission
Also, Suga Mama treating Oscar like crap takes on a harsher meaning when you learn that Tommy Davidson was abandoned when he was a baby.
Yeesh that’s a yikes
No way!!! You think so?
Who
@@TheoandAugust Oscars voice actor
Can we point out that compared to a lot of TV dads, both Cartoon and live, Oscar actually loves his family and isn't a jerkass, manchild, or a psychopath or constantly whining about how awful his family is?
but his love for his family isn’t justified. He’s a loser and everybody close to him is constantly reminding him of it. I really feel constantly torn between whether to feel sympathy for him or feel like he deserves everything that happens to him. Chicken or the egg, really. Was he villified for being a jerk or did he become a jerk for being neglected as a son?
>Isn't a jerkass...
There was literally a scene in an episode where he went flat out sexist and told Trudy that she was the woman and he was the man, and demanded that she cooked dinner.
>...manchild
There have been many occasions where he started whining like a child and cried out to his mom for help.
Can't really say anything for psychopath and whining about his family, but he is definitely the first two examples.
Still my favorite character though.
True!
@@joelblake5310 jerkass-- while He's not as outright malicious as peter griffin for example but he will abuse and/or take advantage of anyone who tries to help him if he thinks he can make a buck because he's largely fueled by his failures and insecurities which can override his judgement. (Especially in the new series) he's very condescending to women and children whom he feels he out ranks in society.. i'd say these qualities make him a jerkass.
He definitely a Manchild
He whines about his mother's treatment of him, how she favors Bobby, and how his family doesn't listen to him or respect him.
I dont think he's a psychopath
@@phlpcockrell I was just giving an example of how he can be a jerkass.
Oscar is never an idiot. He's pretty competent at his job as a parent, with some exceptions of course.
I think he's incompetent as a business man, but definitely makes up for it as a parent.
@@TeamFriendship8600 If he redirected his focus from snack-making to marketing, he’d be far more successful. His slogans are awesome.
@@theluigifan1 True. His charisma is probably how he did get a commercial and a promotional offer on a big TV show. He clearly has some good knowledge as an entrepreneur.
Now that I think about it, isn't it weird how the show never really answers how the Prouds are well off despite Proud Snax being in the toilet? I know it was said that Trudy pays the bills, but if that's the case, the Proud house doesn't look like it would be cheap to pay for. Add on to that Oscar owning a factory, paying for promotional material, and still having money for allowance. Is Oscar Proud guilty of money laundering on top of possibly multiple homicides? And if he is, is he aware? It's probably not a stretch to think Proud Snax have the potential to be deadly.
Idk if idiot is the right word, but I hate how they maximize on his ignorance sometimes and have Suga Mama just verbally and physically abuse him all the time. The writers made him so pathetic.
@@TeamFriendship8600 well in the first episode, Felix does say he uses his snacks as landfill.
It's true that Oscar was overprotective of Penny, especially when it comes to boys and dating, but the show made it pretty clear that it was out of love and concern for her wellbeing and not just a sitcom cliche of the father not wanting a child to date/be romantic/ect. Yes he gets carried away, but he means well in the end.
Same between him and his wife. Trudy doesn't disrespect him (though he sometimes sees it that way) but usually she knows when to come rein him in before it gets out of hand.
Yeah but he goes to far and some times seems just him wanting what will make him happy
Sugar Mama was pretty abusive to Oscar but there were some episodes that showed that she really loved him. Oscar loves his mother, he only jokes around but then Sugar Mama takes it too personally.
Louder and Prouder is airing right now and I'm happy to say they did not screw it up. Oscar is still a bit hard headed but they did not make him dumb. Still a good father and husband.
Which in todays society is a blessing. Today everyone tries to depict sitcom dads as total assholes.
Kind of did make him like an idiot. Since he stole an idea from someone for snack land, trying to up the Wizard and not opened for many things like in Father Figures he forbid Penny being friends with Maya and KG cause they have two dads on account of he never met them or even get to know them since he's what he is. Not to mention he even won't admit he is wrong or can't except most things like when Bebe was diagnosed with Autism. He maybe a good father at times, but most times all he cares about trying to make his nasty snacks well known to the public like in Snackland episode where he fired Penny and the others for Lizzo and even ruined Penny's Get In business when he made a fake driver's license for Mr. Chips for a EPA inspection since he uses monkeys to eat his awful snacks and one to work in his factory and if that doesn't scream 'health inspector' then Oscar needs to find a job he can really do
I personally like to think the whole cheap skate thing comes from the fact he knows Trudy makes more money then him so he doesn’t feel right spending her money.
I also like to think that while animal abuse is very wrong but Bebe and Cece give puff the business because of how often Puff gives Oscar the business.
@Will N I don’t know just saying puff likes to mess with Oscar and one episode had Bebe and Cece strapping puff to a rocket.
@@Reviewer2016 Also, Bebe and Cece are babies with a lack of conscious. Sure, the show points out that they're kinda intelligent and care about their family, but it's not like they have a perfect understanding of what's right or wrong since, you know, they're babies that can't talk for the most part? I think that's why Puff's Magical Adventures was written in the first place, to show that there's a difference when the twins mistreat Puff as opposed to every other family member, who, might I add, are people that should know better.
@@alexkumaratunga2834 fair enough but still.
Tbh I think we got the house husband pov with Oscar and Trudy. Truly being the breadwinner as a Vet and Oscar being the house figure while running proud snax. House never looks bad and the kids are growing up fine. Also Trudy still sees Oscar as a man even in this difference in position. One thing I did just notice about the proud family.
180K per year for a veterinarian The average is about 80,000 per year
@@byronrush9802 I can't tell you how fast I'd become Mr. Clean white jeans and all if my girl made that much lol
@@kingkai_3954 I wouldn't mind being a house husband not having to work just cleaning the house making dinner and taking care of the children and if you're really good you don't have to clean the house every week if you deep clean twice a month
To be fair, justifying Proud Snax is very difficult
Don’t slander Proud Snax!
I don't like how he's the punching bag for the prouder and louder serious. Even my girl picked up on how bad he has it this serious.
I hate that
Even if your dad isn't perfect, you should be thankful if he tries his best to be a good dad, because some people don't even have that.
Oscar isn’t greatest dad but he’s better than other terrible dads like Peter Griffin, Bob Pataki, Mr. Turner, Mr. Krabs, Martin, Sterling, Rusty Venture, Stan and Jake Smith, Levar Brown, Randy Marsh and other South park dads Rand Ridley, don’t get me started on Ozai.
I’m with you there
Rusty does care for his kids he’s just not the best but he is a million times better then his dad who was revealed to be a monster final season.
Plus he clones his sons when they die when he could not bother
wait how is Mr krabs a terrible dad? Like don't get me wrong he's a horrible _person_ but from what I recall he's mostly just meh at worst usually when it comes to parenting
@@dooplon5083 i feel like it's flat out impossible to judge a character on spongebob. you have to specify where and when to be accurate, because every character has great and terrible episodes. in good episodes, if a character is acting unlikable, you are never meant to like how the character is acting. you could say he does a good enough job if his daughter affectionately helps him with his medications, or a terrible job if you pick an episode where he only cares about money and nothing else. he's also concerned like any other parent should be in some situations.
"No dating, until after you're married."
That always sounded stupid to me. Don't you need to do one in order to fulfill the other? That's like the old saying "You can't get experience without a job, and you can't get a job without experience."
That's kind of the point. He's afraid of Penny growing up and no longer being his "little girl". Though at the end of that particular episode when discussing dating, he did relent and tell Penny she can start doing so when she turns 16 (the writers forgot that detail in the reboot).
@@SamuraiGirl02 only to immediately renege when she actually turned 16 in the proud Family movie but he learns to let go finally after all these years
I actually have a theory about Suga Mama. The reason why he treats Bobby as her favorite is because she knows his music can only go so far and had no choice but to baby him since he has no skills to stand on his own 2 feet. Meanwhile, Oscar DID develop those skills and that's why he can afford a house(guessing in full and no mortgage), education for his three kids, having a loving wife, and trying and failing his own business. I think subconsciously he DOESN'T want to be his mom's favorite cause that means he'll be living with her for the rest of his life mooching off of her just like Bobby is. AND the fact that Suga Mama always has Oscar's back one way or another proves that she really loves her son. Don't know if you saw louder and prouder yet but it turns out that Suga Mama's childhood was almost more abusive than what she's doing all because she's a girl and she's trying hard not to repeat it. Is she failing at that? In some points yes but I can already tell she a WAY better parent than her own daddy.
His wife Trudy affords the house it’s been established she makes way more
@@skeletonwarrior1546 I was just making an educated guess. It's been a long time since I last saw the Proud Family.
@@skeletonwarrior1546 180K a year to be precise and Oscars the one who paid for the house that was already established in the old series
Sugar Mama is terrible mother and Trudy is not really a good wife (Oscar ain't perfect but he's 100% loyal unlike her) and sometimes tries too hard to be the "Cool Mom" which is irresponsible.
I think one of the main reasons Oscar has bad luck is because he has no respect for anyone else.
For example he is making money selling his snacks with penny playing football, but when she gets hurts and doctor pain says that she might have a broken leg the only thing Oscar says is we need a actual real doctor to look at her. In other words he goes against people if the don’t go his way.
And suffers for it all cause he stubborn and dumb
you nailed my beef with Sugar Mama, Bobby still lives with his mom and living a dream that doesn't pay but Oscar made his own job, yes his snakes were garbage but he made the entire enterprise himself, his a solid marriage, kids and a house. at the end of the day Oscar was the successful child and Bobby dead beat.
I never really thought of Oscar as the dumb dad like homer Simpson peter griffin mr turner
Same here
They really did screw up Suga Mama and Oscars relationship even more in the new series.
The fact that Proud Snax is still solvent despite their horribleness, is impressive in and if himself.
thats mostly due to people finding other things for it like landfill
The Proud family could give The Simpsons a run for their money as America’s favorite dysfunctional family
I always felt bad for Oscar. He always tries and fails, and though he can get pretty big headed when he has a success, given how often people put him down, both his parents included, you can’t really blame him. You actually feel for him. I know it’ll probably never happen, but I hope Oscar one day gets a grandiose win that no one could take away from him, especially Wizard Kelly.
Well, a grandiose win that isn’t his family. Now that is a success you can never rob Oscar of.
It has been FOREVER since I have seen The Proud Family, but even now when I think of Oscar I remember that he was a good father and husband.
... although the thing that sticks out the most in my memory was just how horrendously he got bullied in the show despite what a good dude he was deep down. Not just by Sugar Momma, but everyone in general. Poor guy...
I think Oscar Proud is the reason why I love this show; he's such an entertaining character. Plus, the voice acting, while not perfect, is amazing for this guy. Tommy Davidson really did a great job voicing him. The only issue I have with him is that he sometimes talks way too fast that it's hard to understand what he's saying.
I have to disagree about Oscar taking Sugar Mama's insults too personally. She's his mum for heaven's sake. I really don't like the way you turn constant verbal abuse by a parent into even partially the kid's problem, even if Oscar isn't a child anymore. She's pretty well always treated him like that.
DUDE!!! As someone who worked on the Show, I'd love to hear your thoughts on Louder and Prouder. Great Job!
What was your role in working on the show?
@@shannonjohnson1099 I animated on several episodes for Wildbrain studios.
Oscar proud was a great father and husband. It's nice to see him getting acknowledged for being more than a moron. On a side note, the running gag about Mike Lou and Ogg is getting a bit stale. No disrespect, but perhaps it's time to let that one go.
8:48. It's also worth pointing out that Suga Mama sang a song to Oscar telling him that he should believe in himself more, instead of looking himself down. The problem is that Oscar never really picks this up; what he just interpreted from the song was that Suga Mama sang something so heartwarming to him. He didn't really understand the true message as to what she wants him to pick up on. He only rejected the offer from Wizard Kelly because he was in a very emotional state as well as thinking that's what Suga Mama wanted him to do. Literally after the whole foot fiasco, Oscar still wanted to make snacks similar to Suga Mamas since, even if the secret behind them is kinda messed up and everyone knows about it at that point, they were still very successful snacks. True, while he stated that "snack making is in his blood," making it seem like he's believing in himself, in reality, he's really not. He's just doing what was already successful instead of doing something else that might've gotten him another form of success. And the fact that everyone knows that Proud Snack's reputation is already ruined further because of the foot fiasco, and yet he still wants to do what Suga Mama did, just proves this further. This episode really aged well.
Also, people need to realize that a "dumb or foolish dad" being so prevalent has a reason for being so prevelant. The purpose is to give these guys a character and make them more interesting. Granted, media should do more than just make most fathers idiots or buffoons, but the purpose is there. Imagine if these parents didn't have any personality, and instead they're just the nice and perfect dads. That's not good entertainment; that makes the parents super forgettable and boring. Plus, a dumb dad or a silly dad can work really well. There's a reason why Jimmy Neutron and Proud Family fan's usual favorite characters are Hugh and Oscar since they're memorable and funny, even if they do have some problems being effective parents. Meanwhile, Kim's father from Kim Possible is what I'd consider to be an almost idealistic father. Sure, he makes dad jokes and can be a bit overprotective, but he's an overall nice dad. But most Kim Possible fans probably wouldn't even put him in a favorites list since there are other more interesting characters in that show.
Really felt bad for oscar at times even his mother dont respect him
I just feel plain terrible for him, your mother treating you like crap ( since you was a kid as well ), your wife and kids being disappointed in you. I’m pretty sure that would drive anyone crazy
@@Dark-xv9iz There are times where I feel bad for him, but Trudy and Penny being disappointed in him is justified, because Oscar has genuinely done a lot of terrible things.
@@joelblake5310 so has everyone else on the show but they don’t get any consequences
@@Dark-xv9iz True, but his actions are arguably worse than what everyone, including Penny's """""friends""""", have done.
@@joelblake5310 not necessarily
The Thingy episode was really funny
you forget the episode where the aunt of oscar comes and she sugar mama admits tha she sometines likes oscar but will always love him
I mean, Hugh Neutron was another case of a dumb dad done right, at least he was supportive of his son even though he didn't know half the crap Jimmy was talking about and very loving and loyal towards his wife.
At least he was better as a parent then Timmy Turner's dad, TT's dad straight up neglected his kid and stated many a time Timmy was a mistake.
Mr.Turner:"My dreams shattered years ago..."
Timmy:"How long ago?"
Mr.Turner"How old are you?"
Yeah, pretty much.
"I will not fail the mission!"
I have to watch this show again.
I think Hank Hill might be one of the best dad and husband I've seen in a show. He might be conservative in his ways but you have to admit he gets results at the end of the day.
And knows what he doing as cartoon dads go Hank at the top with others
You better make a new video on this cuz it seems like in the new series he's been reduced to the level of Jerry Smith from Rick and morty
Man this just makes me love the family dynamic
I know what you mean
*pounding the table* louder with prouder reveiw...!!!!!!!!
excellent video!!
Agreed. I think so many shows try to do the "dumb dad" done right approach but most of them often fail at it for varying reasons, or they just make them out to be just the dumb dad, with little to no redeeming qualities outside of them just being "funny." I think Oscar is the right blend of a dumb dad being played up for laughs with his shenanigans, but he's redeemable enough to where you know his heart is often in the right place, which makes him easy to root for. I think another great example of the dumb dad done right is Tim Allen's character from "Home Improvement", as well. He was an idiot too, but he always knew when to do the right thing, and when to ask for help when needed.
I noticed you didn’t mention Oscar, in terms of his qualities as a husband, would sometimes look at other women which bothered Trudy. Usually causing her to lash out at him.
The episode where Oscar tried to buy a suit from Andrew Johnson, but Johnson got drunk and took away his voting rights will always be my favourite episode.
Love ❤️ this TV 📺 review!
they made oscar into a punching bag
Yeah sadly
Love this video and TV Show!👍📺
Watched the show through and through--and surprise--would still place Oscar Proud in the category between Earl Sinclair and Big Bob Pataki. He is that much trouble that the whole world suffers the consequences.
PENNY!
Hal from Malcolm in The Middle is the best, the number 1 and quintessential Dumb Dad ever
"No dating until after you're married."
Oscar, how in Sam Hill does that make any sense?!
Well to be fair, Oscar and Suga Mama arguing makes good television.
That's why their bickering is frequent.
Love ❤️ the Oscar and Sugar Mamma jokes lol!lol 😂
If it helps it looks like the reboot is gonna be solid
Its really disappointing how they portray him in the revival series. They just made him stupid and annoying
They sometimes did him right but those moments are so little it’s just flanderization
@@rach3092 plus when you think he learned he back to being. A asss
I wonder if his mom prefers his brother because she feels he "needs" it more. Oscar has a wife, kids, his own business (even if it's not very successful), a nice house. But what does his brother have? He can sing? She might assume Oscar will be fine because he has a family that loves him, while his brother, not so much.
As Suger Mama once said to Oscar:
"I'll like you once in while, but I'll always love you."
(Oscar Proud reacts to the video)
Oscar: Am i really that dumb? What kind of father am i?
personal insults are personal!
Oscar actually isnt dumb... he was never dumb until the sequel.
I feel like atleast 1 person have the exact dad like oscar
We need to critique the Overprotective Dad trope (sometimes it's projecting their own history with women on their daughters) and I have my disorganized thoughts on Trudy.
I always called Oscar out for his wacky antics but I always knew he had his family on top every single moment
Oscar rimeds me Devi’s mum from never have I ever
4:19 Homer still loves his wife! Whenever there was a woman who lusted after him, he refused. That’s how much he loves her
I love that Oscar is a good dad and husband just has an ego
10 out of 10 doctors may recommend throwing away Proud Snacks but don’t forget he still manages to start his own snack company.
😂 😂 Parents have their favorites just like every human does. Y'all feelings will never change or control that
Woah, that background music is awesome, what’s the source? It definitely sounded like a Genesis game but I am not sure which, I’m thinking maybe Verytex, Midnight Resistance, or Thunder Force
I like this vid of your on Oscar showing more to him than what the show give him. I watch the show when I was younger and I Get what he was doing, and his goofy-ness. He's Not the brights but he not Mean Neather... I just a Shame what there doing to him in the New show... I hope you do Another Character Detail vid on the New show too. I just Hope they Don't screw Over Oscar.
Timmy's dad is very inconsistent: sometimes he's risking his life to save timmy like when he thought he was in the trunk of a car when in reality he was the car in the episode "engine blocked" or when him and timmys mom look all over dimmsdale to get timmy back and hijack a radio station to tell timmy they love him and want him to come home in channel chasers, even some later episodes in like season 7 show he cares for timmy to alot of other times where its just a dumb joke he dosent care about timmy.
Mr turner isnt 100% a monster just extremely inconsistent thanks to the writers flip flopping his likeablity to fit the story or the jokes they wanna tell instead of being making jokes and writing around a consistent personality like u should do.
Timmy’s dad is a a-hole. He hates his nice neighbor out of envy. He becomes an evil dictator due to not getting a award in an alternate reality. He admits to Timmy that his hopes and dreams died when Timmy was born to me.
I know those moments are portrayed in a comedic way it doesn’t change the fact he is a selfish jerk.
It would have been interesting if they were portrayed to really love their son, they’re just terrible at conveying that. But you’re absolutely right; they are inconsistent
Good ole Prune Snacks lol!
I didn't like some of Oscar's scenes where he was always the cartoonish butt of the joke. But he did have some great heart felt moments.
you know, for the longest time I've always wondered why Proud Snax taste so awful.
Dunno. It's probably whatever Oscar put INTO the Snacks that made them so bad. I've never seen Oscar cook except one time he BURNED hotdogs, so I can only assume he's horrible at cooking! Plus, he's probably never tried eating his own recipies to test, but maskes them, packages them and TRIES to sell them!
@@kaytlinjustis5643 I'd accept that theory, My personal headcanon is that Oscar just threw every single flavor he could think of in there without regard to how they would all interact with eachother which is why they are taste awful.
Love the Sugga Mamma and Oscar! Lol 📺❤️👍😂
Even suga mama called him dumb in the new series
I’ve heard that Tommy Davison doesn’t voice the dad in the new series
Oscar Proud is a great man/father/husband. There is nothing that can convince me otherwise.
Trudy makes far more then Oscar she pays the bills
I love Oscar
Poor sap just sorta solved any potential food crisis at one point, but couldn't sell the product because it made the food taste bad.
9:47-9:50. In hindsight, this entire show's reception of its characters can be summed up with that one line:
"Oh, Suga Mama's is a mother that picks favorites, so she's a bad character; oh Oscar is a bad dad because he's overprotective; oh Penny's friends are horrible, and they always treat her like crap (even if there are episodes where they all do help her on occasions, INCLUDING FUCKING DIJONAY, and Lacienega isn't supposed to be judged for being a bad friend when the show made it clear that she and Penny are not really friends, so it's expected of her not to treat her nicely." Like seriously, watch the fucking show deeply and then make these statements please.
Also, sorry for making too many comments. I just really love The Proud Family a lot. I have so much to say about it.
I'm commenting to remind myself that I already watched this video.
And also his wife will see his mom hurt and not even say nothing
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This vid was made the day jayrip rah gzz died
I will be honest like I don’t think Oscar is like a bad dad compared to like other people to other dads and cartoons like Timmy turner’s dad is bad like bad bad even peter griffin you can say the same for Homer but like Stan Smith like to be honest he may not be like the best dad in the world or the smartest dad in the world but at least like he’s there that’s something that for me that like I like about Oscar mean I never have a dad he’s always in and out of my life
Oscar proud
Oscar is still good
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I think the reason why people hate Oscar is because the trope of an "overprotective dad" is kinda a hard sell nowadays, where society is encouraging people to be more independent and free-minded. Granted, people are right in the fact that Oscar does sometimes go a bit too far being overprotective to Penny (plus he is a bit unreasonable at times), but I think the show makes it clear that he does genuinely care about Penny and just wants her to be raised well (you know, like a typical good parent wants for their kid?). Also, you have to understand that Suga Mama has basically neglected him in favor of Bobby, so this is an example of him not trying to repeat her past mistakes. Plus, a lot of the things he's overprotective about are true (like he has a point where he doesn't know how the boys that Penny's interested in have been raised, so how can he truly trust Penny if he can't trust her potential partners). Furthermore, I do like how he a very believable parent that has his own goals and aspirations that, while yes does rub off on Penny unfortunately, makes him feel more human instead of just being "the generic parent" (One in a Million and Spelling Bee are very good examples of this, and I love how those episodes characterize him). He feels like the most realized parent of Disney Channel in my opinion, to the point where the other animated parents after him really feel like sanitized versions of him. I can understand why some people might like them more than Oscar, but Oscar has way more going for him.
I’d like to mention that people are bitching about the gay dads on the reboot while Oscar is a dead beat. Trudy is the soul provider and Oscar has no control in the household. It’s like it’s mirroring certain aspects.
Sole
They do him like that in the reboot?
I hate how he constantly hits on any attractive woman he sees. Trudy does it sometimes with men, but I think it's just to get back at Oscar.
Trudy is as guilty with flirting with other men, but that's only when things are like platonic between her and the other men (specifically the episode with Dave or her dance instructors). Plus, when she does actually get excited around men, its usually because they're celebrities, so you would except someone to act like her in those cases.
@@alexkumaratunga2834 in a marriage? hitting on celebs shouldnt be expected
@@2crisp63What I meant is that she usually gets more excited with famous men than regular ones. She may play around with them for a while, but at the end of the day, she wouldn't leave Oscar for them ( in the episodes with Lou Rouls and Smokey Robinson, she was fangirling over them only for her to pretend they didn't exist later in those episodes).
@@alexkumaratunga2834 fangirling is different to hitting on imo but yea I agree with you
@@2crisp63 True, but you know, it's a sitcom.
Tired of the Dumb Dad Trope. He's more neurotic thanks to how his parents raised him or lack thereof.
the "dad protecting daughter from dating people" thing is so fucking creepy man
They're literally in middle school. It'd be way worse if he just ignored her dating life completely.
How? With how many boys she's been with she would probably be pregnant by now
In real life with all the mysogny, mental abuse, failed business ventures and overall childishness, Oscar would've been a single man for the rest of his life.
Don't get me wrong he had his moments but they were so far and few it was hard to justify; of course bad inconsistent writing will do that
Oscar was a great family man with few mistakes but he’s damn sure Better then Mr Turner , Homer and Peter he ain’t perfect but his heart was always in the right place.
Loyal Oscar hits on hot women when ever he gets the chance he flirts and seems like he might even given and got hang with and date them
"Consistently Loyal"
Im pretty sure Oscar has flirted with several random women over the series 🤔
I try to skip that Beebe and ceece tween episode
I honestly don't get why he feels the need to have a business. I mean Trudy Proud is a veterinarian and I think they'd be financially set if he lost his business.
He to,stubborn to stop and listen among other things there are reason his mom dose not respect him
You know, Funny thing about that, in the most recent Season of Louder and Prouder, he actually does get his factory closed down.
How did Oscar make any money if his products are apparently so awful? Does he have second business?
Trudy is a veterinarian.
Trudy makes the money not him lol