Let's Talk About Kitchen Flooring for a Change.
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In this live show, we talk about all things kitchen flooring.
Which to install first, the cabinets or the flooring?
What is the best kitchen floor?
What are the different options available? - Zábava
We put vinyl sheet flooring in our kitchen and one of our bathrooms. We love it: warm, soft and forgiving if you drop things, and it's easy to clean. The sheet flooring also has less seams for liquid to breach through to your subfloor and it is cheap enough that you can replace it in a few years if you don't like it. We did go to a flooring store and got a higher grade of flooring than you can get at the big box stores. We have tile in the other bathroom and hate it. It's cold and if you drop something on it not only will the item break but the tile will chip. Keeping the grout clean is a pain in the knees...literally. We have wood floors in the rest of our house but for the bathrooms and kitchen our vote is for vinyl sheet flooring
Which kind of vinyl did you use
Tell me about it I just got white tile installed 😢 can’t keep it clean to save my life and first week drop some random small stuff like a spoon and literally now I have chips everywhere, now am looking at laminate floors lol
Too bad Linoleum is so hard to find. Yes, tile seems to be a pain.
Forbo Marmoleum? Great colors. So many to choose from. Not all are marbled.
Great replay Mark👍we have a concrete floor in the kitchen and put ceramic tile on top 20 years ago - easy to clean but lethal for anything you drop 🙄 it is definitely good when you have a leak - dishwasher in our case - spoilt the wood support at the end of the countertop but floor was 💯
Thanks for the input! I really love the look of concrete the more I see it!
luxury vinyl is an oxymoron. I would never put vinyl anything in my home, other than the PVC plumbing that gets buried under the finished surfaces. for bathrooms/kitchens specifically I would only want tile or polished concrete. Love the extra large format tile (2ft x 4ft) or even better, the porcelain slabs that you can get in huge sizes like 5ft x 10ft. Really minimizes the grout lines.
The flooring should go in first - if it’s tiles or a floor that’s thicker about 5 or 6 millimetres. My friend got a new kitchen last year, when the room was empty the tiler came in and tiled the entire floor wall to wall. When the kitchen fitters came in they had all the base cabinets installed in no time as the floor was perfectly level. It turned out great.
Yeah, for tile, I think this is the best option.
1) Cork slippers = Birkenstocks. 2) I have hickory plank flooring in our entire house, including in our kitchen. Our house was built as a spec house by our kind of lovable builder. Kitchen island was too wide and two people couldn’t pass each other comfortable on either end of the open kitchen and, as well, the builder did the 6 inch push out of the kitchen sink under the kitchen window which made it impossible for anyone to pass in front of the sink, dishwasher and beverage fridge…so I thought I’d “fix” the issue by making the island all one height and remove 3 inches from each side of the island while also getting rid of the sink “push-out.” I discovered that the hickory planks didn’t go fully under the entire kitchen island and also the fully under earth the cabinets. Our house was only 8 years old when I “fixed” the kitchen cabinets and traffic flow, but I had to “patch” the hickory wood plank flooring and do some “temporary finishing” of the wood floor. (We have to remove everything from the entire house and vacate for 10 days to have the floors fully refinished. This may or may not happen in my remaining lifetime.) Point is that if the hickory plank flooring had been fully installed in the entire kitchen, including underneath the island and main run of kitchen cabinets along the windows when the house was built wouldn’t have left me with the not quite properly finished floor.
Finally, in your lower level unfinished basement, I installed, over the poured concrete floor, an engineered wood product that looks nice, but is has a layer of rubber underlayment, then cork, then the engineered wood. It’s great to walk on and can get wet and won’t be damaged by water as long as it’s not left for days with lots of water on it. I have my sound studio/Zoom conference room in the lower level and the sound deadening of the floor helps a great deal.
Great channel with lots of helpful info. Thanks!
thanks. We have tile , laminate and wood in our house. The tile looks amazing but I dont like it in the kitchen. Its hard on the feet it can crack with weather changes and not great for young kids who run and fall.
I put in wood look ceramic tile in my kitchen. It looks great and I'm happy with it.
I have that wood effect ceramic tile in my current house and they are great. I am buying a house in France later in the year and plan to do the whole ground floor with a similar tile (a lighter shade this time) as I like the look and there will be less waste. I am buying extra in case any need replacing later. They are really easy to maintain too. Only the bathroom is getting a different tile, possibly a marble style.
My home is built using concrete slab on grade construction. So that affects flooring choices. I have ceramic tile which is very popular where I live in Arizona.
Another awesome discussion. Thank you.
Personally, I love solid timber flooring (Australian hardwood, as I’m in Australia, though European and American species are gaining popularity here). I always run it under the kitchen, because you’d redo the kitchen before you rip up that floor. The plan for my next build (which I hope to be my last for a long time), is to run solid Spotted Gum under the kitchen. Then when I next want to remodel (15+ years), I can either refresh the kitchen and refinish the floors around it, or I can completely take out the kitchen and rework it if I want, and won’t need to patch the floor.
Thanks so much for watching! Great point too. You’re likely going to update your cabinets before the floor. Spotted Gum? I’ll have to look that up. Sounds nice!
My house (in Atlanta, GA, USA) was built sometime between 1932 and 1940, and I have beautiful hardwood "red oak" floors. We had them refinished in 1997-1998 in a general remodel (didn't do the kitchen then).
My remodel plans include Home Depot's Lifeproof brand LVP kitchen and breakfast room, a wood-look pattern called Biscayne Oak for a herringbone look. My kitchen is fairly small and the breakfast room includes the laundry nook and a pantry (all subject to revision, but I'm stuck with the ten-foot nine by seven-foot-nine galley with doors in the end walls.
There will be a contrast between the LVP oak look and the dining room and master bedroom real wood, but it doesn't jar the senses.
I also have a middling-big dog (soon getting a second one) and the Lifeproof has a lifetime warranty.
By the way, I had a huge tree limb fall on my house during a heavy rain in the middle of the night, and a lot of the real hardwood got wet in about half the house. The insurance company wanted us to move out and have all the floors in the house refinished, but we didn't have it done and you can't tell the difference between the rooms that got flooded and the ones that didn't.
@@5610winston my parents and I have had LVP before and loved it. Very practical floor and the new ones now look really great. Personally, I can tell the difference between man-made materials and natural versions and, whilst I like them, I don’t love them. I also have no issue with scratches and patina on natural surfaces. I’ve lived with all the various options, but nowadays I go with what makes my heart happy. I think it also helps that I don’t have dogs and my children are getting older 😄
Your house sounds so lovely. I have a real affinity for houses built in that era.
@@Pandorash8 The internet says my house was built in 1944, but certain overseas events of that period make me doubt that, those events and the fact that I have the papers where the house was connected to the city sanitary sewer system in 1940 and I have met one of the sons of the couple my parents bought the house from. He was born in 1941 (Pearl Harbor Day) and he remembers growing up here until he was eighteen.
Anyhow, I looked at the LVP again today (my Norwegian Elkhound loves Home Depot, and this was his socializing outing for the day).
Baldurdash has dug all the way through the sheet rock by the back door, so I'm looking to the most durable possible flooring but I want the warmer feel of LVP.
Glue down cork is highly water proof. That's why it's used for wine bottles! The problem with click-lock or snap together types is that they usually have an mdf or other material middle layer that is not waterproof. In a bathroom cork should be glue down, and probably in a kitchen too.
Awesome! Thanks for the info!
20:00 I am reminded here of the great British comedian, raconteur, bass-baritone (and, as he remarked of his stage comedy partner, Donald Swann) "also contains lanolin", remarking on their tour of Australia that the seasons were the other way around is complete nonsense, that Australia has its winter in July, just the same as in England....
I am considering a new kitchen ( galley) and have hardwood flooring in dining area and will probably need vinyl flooring as I can't put hardwood.
Is there anything about vinyl flooring that is better than Linoleum, besides the price?? Why is Linoleum so hard to find? Linoleum is non-toxic and durable. Vinyl off-gasses and scratches easily. Marmoleum sounds interesting too. Does that scratch easily? It seems soft and warm and quiet.
Thank you! I am currently planning a complete kitchen renovation and the flooring choices were making me completely confused.
Well, hopefully I didn't make it more confusing with this live stream lol.
@@MTKDofficial Nah, I’m pretty set on LVT, just figuring out if I want a wood- or stone- look as I will have natural rift sawn oak cabinets. This video was helpful, thanks.
we have tile and its cold underfoot. slightly oddly there is a zone closer to the sink that is colder underfoot - maybe its getting some outside temperature soak? I think we have a concrete subfloor though so not sure how much we could mitigate the temperature with a wood floor.
Yeah, I think either way, the floor is going to be cold, but it seams as if wood floors transfer heat differently. They always seem warmer to me.
I have sheet vinyl ( top quality) and people admire my tile flooring as it looks real. The guys laying the flooring said it went down like butter.
Would you mind sharing which flooring you used?
In the U.K, our washing machines are placed in the kitchen.
I've heard many stories of washing machines malfunctioning and the water leaking out, or in my case the flood water came in through the outside vent!
As such the wooden boards (floor of kitchen, not flooring) gets damaged.
Therefore would it be better to lay lino under the sink/ washing machine cabinets for extra protection so the wood floor does not rot easily?.
So, in your opinion would it look odd, if I put lino near sink and washing machine, then other flooring for the rest of the kitchen?
Would there be a way to only lay the lino under those areas? Or does it have to be visible? My best advice in this case would be to install the cabinets on adjustable legs. This way the cabinets are always protected.
@@MTKDofficial thanks. The cabinets are fine.
We need to fix the floor boards ds though. I'm thinking of putting lino under the cabinets and sealing the edges so water can't get to the floor boards .
And I've blocked the vent.
I am surprised you didn’t mention commercial LVP it’s as thick as ceramic tile and super durable but extremely expensive. Beautiful though. Also comes in squares that mimics tile, stone or even cement.
Hello Mark, sorry I missed this yesterday. Just wanted to put my 2 cents in. I'm getting LVP installed all the way through and it's being glued down, the cabinets will be installed on top. My kitchen manufacturer said some companies won't warranty their flooring if it's installed under the cabinets. I guess it just depends.
Very true. Just curious, who is the kitchen manufacturer?
@@MTKDofficial We're using Five Star Kitchens out of Fredericton.
@@MTKDofficial I got that pitch with Home Depot's _Lifeproof_
I like the "Biscayne Oak" finish with a herringbone installation pattern flowing from the galley into the breakfast room/laundry cubby. The rest of the house (except the tile bathrooms) has red oak full thickness hardwood floors.
I would like to remodel but am not sure the neighborhood would support the price of doing it. Some have suggested I just “refresh” the kitchen with paint, new counter and new flooring. The problem is I hate the layout and would like to remodel eventually. I have laminate counters that could just have new laminate sheets installed over them, but I’m unsure about doing flooring and having to redo it in a few years if I do remodel. The current flooring is orange carpet🤮the previous owners installed. Should I save my money to remodel and wait till then to replace flooring or replace with a cheap sheet vinyl flooring in the meantime?
It's hard when you need to change everything. But orange carpet should probably be addressed lol
If you put kitchen island in before your flooring and you are using floor tiles, start your tile patterns at the island so you don’t have wonky-sized tiles next to your island cabinets.
Good idea!
Ugh i hate my grey viynl planks in my kitchen, if they were installed better it probably wouldn't be as upsetting, but they didn't bother to continue the flooring under the stove,and theres a trip risk because they put a trim piece that they didn't glue down in between the kitchen floor and bamboo flooring. Theres also loose board on the top basement step. I really want to continue the bamboo laminate in the kitchen and put the floor actually under the oven.
Wondering if the weight of an island will damage the interlock of the LVP?
Marmoleum (the natural kind with cork) is supposed to be a healthy choice for allergies. Repels dust I think 🤔
Marmoleum is linoleum. Made from linseed oil and wood flour, all natural and sustainable materials. Cost effective, soft under foot. Intriguing.
@@ps4402 Right, ok 👍🏻 Marmoleum must be the brand name of linoleum. Some really nice colors, and patterns can be designed. Maybe go with the full sheet for a smoother finish. Thanks. I didn’t want it to get confused with what they put down on floors now and sometimes called linoleum.
I'll have to check this out. Sounds interesting. Thanks for sharing!
@@MTKDofficial Thanks for the response. It’s old fashioned and the stuff you find five layers down under all the renovations but it is still a viable, healthy and interesting option for today’s homeowner.
I'm hoping to use marmoleum. Not cheap but sounds well worth it.
Considering epoxy flooring as it is used in commercial kitchens.
I worked on a project that had epoxy sealant on a concrete floor.
The design engineer had specified admixtures and properties in the concrete that the epoxy maker had clearly stated would not be compatible with the coating. Water bled out of the hardened and finished concrete and accumulated in blisters under the coating.
Side note...sorry forgot to mention. All of my building experience has been on slab. Only about 30% were 2 story
Your kitchen measurement guide link is not working. How do I get/view the guide?
My apologies. All fixed. Thanks for letting me know.
Sorry I missed the live stream. The heat made me do it!
Ha!!!
haha. You're excused!!
What is your opinion on epoxy/resin floorings on kitchen or living room?
Haven't had much experience with resin floors, so I really couldn't give a very good opinion.
Another reason to not floor underneath your cabinets is it’s easier to change if you get water damage in. My buddies do insurance adjusting and that’s always a concern.
100%. Probably the best reason and hopefully one that never happens.
I got ceramic tile, regret it. Doing a reno soon, LVP will be going down
Thanks for the input Marc. That seems to be one of the best options.
I dislike ceramic tile because it is cold underfoot.
I have to admit, though, it does have the advantage that it breaks if you happen to drop your cast iron skillet.
Very true
Sad that I just did my flooring with porcelain tiles without considering the drop factor. Gotta be super careful now…
Terrazzo?
I don't "think the floating floor can move with a stone island on it. ?? Not if it's large. Having said that, the portion that is at the other end of the room has some room to swell. The floor won't move as a whole...but some.
Any ideas on poured epoxy?
I'm certainly not an expert on flooring, and I didn't even know you could do an epoxy poured floor. Seems like you'd need one heck of a lot of epoxy. I would imagine it would stand up fairly well, but again, no idea.
Can’t say I find appeal in floating floors. It doesn’t have the same quality or durability over a long period as tile or hardwood. Hardwood obtains character with age. I also use epoxy grout. Be sure to study up on how to apply it though. It’s unforgiving
Grout seems gross. I have even seen some countertops with tile and grout. Hard, cold, echo-y, it is not appealing.
The first 20 minutes are a waste of time
Thanks for the input. I've been learning with live streams to get into the content sooner so the replay experience is much better. My recent lives jump right into the content. You should rethink how you comment to people though. Pretty rude.
@@MTKDofficial nice comment
20 minutes into video and 1 very simple concept has been explained (takes 3 min to cover that concept). Rest of time spent rewording/restating the same things over and over.
Go create your own content and stop watching mine.
@MTKDofficial naa man i get it, really need to pad out that run time to earn those ad cents. Hustle your fans time to make a dime. Work that grind my friend.