“Own Up to It!!” - Rich Eisen on Greg Norman and the LIV Golf Tour Shanking Its Opening PR Drive
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- Rich Eisen reacts to Greg Norman and the LIV Tour’s big misstep right out of the gate when they removed golf journalist Alan Shipnuck from Phil Mickelson’s press conference at the organization’s first ever event.
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I agree Rich. Now let’s talk about the NBA cozying up to and chasing the money in China, and ignoring their human rights abuses.
Amen brother!!
Yeah, but it still does not make going to play for LIV right...
Absolutely 5 billion upfront and 1.5 billion annually for broadcast rights. Not to mention, the US government has been doing business/ trade with the Saudi’s since Nixon was in office. The hypocrisy is outrageous. SMH
What human rights in China? The young victims of the endless mass shootings? Just to name a few....
@@gibson3lespaul you would do it if you had a chance
Phil didn't want Alan in the press conference. Simple as that. Alan pretty much blew Phil up some months back by reporting comments Phil made to Alan that he thought were off the record. Alan screwed him
When I see Rich Eisen talk about Nike, China, and the NBA I will take this kind of commentary more seriously.
eah, hes a woke corporate tool
We can take both seriously, as both China and Saudi Arabia relationships are problematic.
Just a reminder of Saudi Arabia recent history:
- 15 of 19 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia.
- consistent Human Rights violators.
- mistreat women as third class citizens.
- murdered an American journalist for being a dissident.
- bribed American political family with $2B while they were in office.
It’s clear-Saudi Arabia is not an ally and is using LIV Golf to whitewash and launder their finances.
@@fredwright5954 y’all seriously don’t even know what woke means.
Only people with no products that are made in China have any credibility to criticize
@@jamisonju we seriously do, thats what yall cant stand. youre outted,
To your point, Phil has been the only one being honest…which is what everyone loves about him. As opposed to Jack Nicklaus, who is currently working with the same Saudi group to build a golf course in Saudi Arabia, being paid by Saudi money. And in his presser, instead of being honest about the Saudis, he showers them with praise and then expresses how honored he is to be chosen to do this project…when are people going to make headlines about that? He IS the biggest name in golf (along with Tiger), but no one wants to go up against him…
No only that but many of Tours biggest sponsors such as Citi Group, Netjets, Wells Fargo, Morgan Stanley, American Express and many others trip all themselves to get a piece of that Saudis money!
@@petebigner151 My favorite was UPS pulling their sponsorship from Lee Westwood, yet UPS delivers all over Saudi Arabia!!
@@cougar2013 We’re not. We’re pointing out the hypocrisy of the PGA tour….they apparently have a problem with it…
@@petegalindez9961 I think I might have misread your comment. Sorry about that!
Phil wasn’t honest he’s just chasing millions. He was fine with the tour when he was really good 😂
Has Rich ever criticized the NBA’s love affair of the Chinese government?
No, he needs the relationship.
What love affair ???
No, because he wouldn't have a job without them...
No, he’s a hypocrite
Very true
What don’t you talk about the NBA’s relationship with China?
Among many other things
Dang right 👍 A bunch of hypocrites! Where does most of the oil come from to fill their cars and planes???
@@johnmartin4332 The US…but that’s not the point you were hoping for…
Forget about the NBA, that's bad enough. Think about every time you see Tiger, Scottie, and countless others PGA members with that NIKE swoosh...
Because China is invested in NBC and he works for NBC. Its ridiculous how many U.S. companies China is invested in.
Rich calls out the Saudis, but refuses to call out China in the NBA...
He has fool. Please. Make some moronic comment by watching a few minutes.
Don’t own any made in China, then criticize.
ALL DEMOCRATS DO THAT.
@@tryingtobefairandobjective3480 No he hasn't. He has not nearly made such a big deal with the NBA. This whole segment is idiotic.
Or the Biden crime family.
I don’t get how people are mad at golfers really. The same money got invested into the pga tour last year. The NBA sends players to China, the US does tons of business with them. Colin cowherd laid it out really well.
the families of the victims of 9/11 have a different opinion but your right Cowherd so brilliant we should all listen to him
@@mattdavid716 The CCP has committed every bit as much of atrocities and human rights violations to this day as the Saudi's maybe more. But it's ok to do business with the CCP but the Saudi's no noooooo. Common now.
Do the families of 9/11 victims care about the Saudi gas you put in your car every day? I feel like that 9/11 BS is a cheap cop out and a hypocritical argument Americans reap the benefits of Saudi backed money daily, but nobody cares.
@@mattdavid716 u don't care about Muslims in concentration camps? Cool way to virtue signal and try and get the moral high ground backfired
@@mattdavid716 say u voted Biden without saying. Lol, clown slap urself, cuz God knows u people are to cowardly to own ur crap vote in public
Just imagine how short Happy Gilmore would have been. He woulda had Grandma’s house before Chubbs got killed.
why is it okay for the US government to sell Saudis billions of dollars of weapons, but Phil Mickelson should refuse to play in their golf league, just silly.
Because this is more popular to be mad at , we sale arms to SA and buy oil from SA but ppl are upset with golf lol
don't forget, we are now begging the Saudi government for oil. That's ok right?
Amen
Because otherwise China would. Strategic geological interests cannot be compared with sports leagues.
Is it possible that people can also have an issue with western governments selling arms to the Saudis and the golfers (and the Biebers who sing there?) or do you agree with every policy decision your government makes?
Heh, professional sports and integrity, never the twain shall meet.
That ship sailed decades ago 🐉
What's 'integrity'......?
@@davidowens5898 The opposite of the current administration.
The only thing I’m going to say is if we are going to take the moral high ground we should apply it across the board. Let’s look into some of the organizations that pay for the pga tour sponsorships and go through their past. That means no more DP World Tour events in several countries in the Middle East and Europe and Asia. I’m not condoning the Saudis but if we aren’t going to do events because of a Country’s prior bad acts, no sport would be played in the US.
Except the only one killing people for opposing them is the Saudi Govt
@@johnhud2536 Epstein, Native Americans, Kennedy(allegedly) The Saudis are just less discrete about it.
@@STAN_THE_DAYZ_SNIPER the PGA had nothing to do with Epstein and Kennedy though
@@johnhud2536 you brought up the differences about Saudi Arabia and the US as Countries. That was the rebuttal. You can’t just say something, delete it and then act like you don’t know what I’m talking about.
@@STAN_THE_DAYZ_SNIPER what did I delete? And why are you defending Saudi Arabia with “whataboutism”?
Having "Press Credentials" does not give you special rights in other countries UNLESS that country or entity gives those permissions to the member of the press corps.
You know who actually paying these liv players. The U.S. and Europe buying there oil. I don’t see anyone bit*hing about that
Amen, brother! Each time we fill our tanks we add to the Saudi monarchies wealth. Thus, we're all guilty of supporting the regime and what they stand for.
I love God because he in his infinite wisdom also creates idiots.
If the do-gooders actually cared about reducing Saudi influence, they'd be calling out Brandon for killing Keystone and other O&G production. But "journalists" are some of the least intelligent people in our society.
That's why I'm all for a Manhattan Project for energy. Then nobody can be a hypocrite.
This is a very sad situation. The filthy rich being taken advantage of by the filthy, filthy rich. My condolences. This is so sad.
*Sad & Funny because it's true.* 🙃
“Taken advantage of”…. I presume your being sarcastic !
Sounds like corporations and Congress in the US.
Everyone is good here. Nobody being taken advantage of
@@costahammer48 Fairly dripping with Sarcasm... ;-)
If Jamal Kashoggi had been a civil engineer who had been killed by the Prince of Darkness, and the Post had never heard of him, would we be having this conversation about the money? I'm not defending the Saudi government, just asking how much concern would there be in the media if this man had been a nobody.
Mr. Eisen I would love to hear your thoughts about the NBA's relationship with China and particularly LeBron James financial gains through that relationship
What are you implying about Rich Eisen?
You don't care 😂
In the 1930s Charles Lindbergh who was the most popular figure in the world at that time was the lead PR man for the third Reich in Germany. He supported them, he admired their Air Force, he admired the third Reich and let the United States know it. He paid for that the rest of his life and these golfers are doing the same thing. Enjoy the money but in the long run it will be small compensation for what you really sold.
Yeah, it sure destroyed Ali.
True dat...........
The names are not all that incredible. The Canadian Open has a much stronger field. There are a few big names and mostly old, past their prime guys with some name value.
Just wait. 😎
Don't blink 😆
You might miss it!
Kinda makes sense since this literally a brand new Golf tour, but if the money is at this level then it’ll be a lot more
@@iamgoated8158 *there
Yeah I wear Nike and use an iphone. I'd have ZERO problem taking Saudi money.
I get your point, but that’s false equivalence.
@@JamilSmith no it isn’t
"Forty years ago, it was considered by some a risky move for the guys who play professional golf to break away from the group created for golf professionals." This was about the PGA Tour splitting from The PGA of America in 1969.
"The golf breakup occurred largely because of the influx of money that television had started to pump into the game. The top players (Jack Nicklaus and Arnold Palmer among them) wanted to use the additional TV money to pump up the purses."
"The PGA of America wanted to put the money in the general fund. That's when the compromise was reached, with the golf professionals and the professional golfers going their separate ways."
Sounds a bit like today...
The PGA tour categorized itself as a non profit so it could avoid hundreds of millions in tax revenue. That decision is now haunting them since it also means they can't hand out guaranteed money contracts like other professional sports.The LIV tour is doing exactly that so it's not surprising top level golfers want guaranteed money. If someone loses their PGA tour card they're gone with very little support. I don't see how you can treat people as independent contractors and then complain when they go elsewhere.
The PGA doesn't kill gay people. There's a difference and people that can't see it amaze me.
Very well said.
They are in full desperation mode. R.I.P. PGA
@@neilhuddleston8294 I disagree! LIV golf may be in trouble. The world golf ranking require tournaments to be 72 holes. 54 hole events are not sanctioned by the PGA tour to receive points! Without the points many won’t qualify for the majors eventually! Also, Mike Shan said these players qualified for the 2022 tour and will be allowed to play in the US Open!
No complaints,they just can’t play in the PGA. They have only one player in top 20,most have beens,plus it’s boring,boring!!
Let another sports network offer Rich a a hefty contract and watch him jump ship
They waited for Arnie to pass before they tried the new league
Apparently Mr. Eisen is unfamiliar with the fact that in March '22 the LPGA held an event called the 'Saudi Ladies International' which was won by Georgia Hall. The check was presented to Ms. Hall by an Arab gentleman in full dress regalia, in plain view, and attended by PGA officials.
This is why I keep referring to it as the "Greg Norman Ego Trip" League. He's been known as a bitter jerk for 40 years, and this current enterprise is just his latest display of it.
Absolutely right, he's been angry since he claimed the PGA Tour stole his idea for the wold golf tour.
There is no question now why Chrissie Evert left him asap.
100% I’ve been saying that about him for years. Well said
lol you are kinda sounding bitter bro
ok, Karen
This is like the USFL competing with the NFL in the 80's only with unlimited resources
Or world hockey league in hockey or just about every other league that treats it's players like the PGA has
Steve Young turned out fine! Not even close comparison! LIV Golf deep pockets!
For now.... how long until they get bored with it?
Decades
Hey Rich, question! Have you ever wondered how much the PGA really makes? It reminds me of the NCAA and thier greed leading them to thier today's obscurity. ex ute jeff
It’s a “non-profit” - LOL
Our own Government is in business with the Saudis. No room to criticize these players
One wrong doesn’t absolve another.
@@Aries73 please tell us more, oh paragon of morality!
@@Aries73 uhh that’s a self own. If you get to do business with the Saudis everyone gets to
It's not really the same thing.... The American government allying with the Saudi government for vital geo-political reasons is a far cry from individual golfers cashing in a big payday to help sports wash SA's image.
@@buckdraper303 not really
Doing business with companies that do business in a country or with businesses in a country is different than getting paid directly from the government of a country.
I’ve seen a lot of ways to launch a professional sports league. Removing a journalist from a press conference of your league’s face is a brand new move to be sure
Idk....its sport... its a private event....they are allowed to say who stays
@@user-dc1dr9kr8x yea. Feels more like a private fundraiser party for rich athletes to enjoy themselves get richer by playing less stressful golf. Does players even feel the need to compete in this thing? 😂
Journalists are the scum of the earth. Shipnuck doesn't get access where he wants, too bad.
Yeah, to compete for even more money…
@@anthonyholder7629 you are already paid 200 million. U would try ur best to get extra 4mil?
Rich Eisen and Shipnuck are kindred souls, two peas in a pod. How about a conversation of Shipnuck betrayal of Phil's trust and doing all he could to destroy the man? For what, book sales? I'm a Tiger guy but Phil second best of last 25 years, where 3rd place is a mile or so behind. Norman did the right thing in having him removed. Shipnuck earned it.
But most of those guys were already filthy rich. How much money will it take to make these men feel whole?
LIV tour sounds like athletes who do not like real competition and want easy money from pockets that have been historically dirty.
Where do I sign up? If it sets my family and I up for life then sure.
@@dennisligma4958 sounds about right. good luck with that attitude.
@@dennisligma4958 my thing is that these players aren't admitting to it for the money. We all know its for the money. Anyone regular Joe would take the cash but just admit it. They are lying through their teeth.
@@xmohawkx985 Who hasn't said it is for the money? The players in multiple different ways have stated that. Do you even listen to their pressers?
And somewhere out there Jack Nicklaus is shouting "WHO'S THE HYPOCRITE NOW!?"
Lol bro American companies do the same thing don't just say Saudi and assume it's bad........ALL MONEY HAS BLOOD
Rich is owned by an American company and sponsors. A corporate sports pundit. He knows that though. It's all a circus lol
Never seen someone is rattled about golf in this way like Rich, Dan Patrick was or was just becouse new tour is Saudi backed? But they are afraid to talk how their own government is in bed with that same Saudi and how Sauid invest soo much money in America in different way. Hypocrisy
Actually Dan acknowledged the US does business with them but he’s kinda like “oh that’s different” but I get what your saying
The biggest star LIV Golf bagged is Dustin Johnson. Prior to his defection from the PGA Tour Johnson missed 3 cuts out of 9 starts this year and has only had one Top 10 finish (ironically, 9th at the Player's Championship). The other big star, Bryson DeChambeau missed 5 cuts out of 7 starts this year (with no Top 10 finishes) and is still recovering from hand surgery. Phil Mickelson (51 years old) entered 4 PGA Tour events this year and missed the cut twice, with no Top 10 finishes. The highest-ranked PGA Tour defector is Kevin Na who missed 3 cuts out of 11 starts, with one Top 10 finish.
LIVs sniping top amateurs which is where they’re really going hurt the PGA Tour over the next few years.
No question that DJ and BD are huge losses. DJ and BD, if the can play the majors, the won’t miss PGA Tour either OR The Wells Fargo (the model citizen bank) Tournament. Now, these freelance athletes, have another option to play golf and take care of their families. Good for them!
@@markushayes so what??? Does it matter? Even if Joe blow shmo starts cleaning out and winning tournaments at tigers level do you really think people are going to legitimize him??? Noppe
Weak arguments. Good for them
John B except a lot of those guys aren’t “Joe schmo Blow” once this thing gets to Portland. Simple research before commenting helps.
How do we know that Phil isn't the reason he was removed? He was the one who wrote the book about him and leaked the gambling debt
Reporters aren't saints, they don't get an all inclusive pass to play damsel in distress
I remember what happened when indy car racing had their big breakup between CART and the IRL, and they still haven't recovered from that.
Exactly. Years after merging and it’s still nowhere near where CART was in the 90’s. It’s sad what needlessly happened.
Phil’s presser was cringe. Shipnuck is a hero. Norman is a disgrace.
OK Rich and company , how much money would it take for you all to cover the LIV tour and ignore what the owners have done ?
Does Rich Drive EVs??
If not, he’s in collusion with the Saudis and the US OIL companies.
This sounds a lot like the CART-IRL split from 1996-2008 that decimated IndyCar Racing.
my advice to golf. FIX THE ISSUE NOW BEFORE IT GETS WORSE.
I remember what a disaster that was. Irl is just now recovering.
Only Major Difference is that the IRL Didn't have $$$$$
@@antoniosaxon8605 They had the Indy 500, which was and still is the largest single day sporting event in the world. It makes money every year, so much that the rest of the season can be run at a loss, and they will still make a profit. The Hulman-George Family also owned Clabber Girl, a large baking company, and that helped them buy the speedway in 1945. They were old money
one way alan can look at it: they stopped me from asking a question that could have got me killed. glass half full kind of view.
I'm not about to listen to PGA tour players who take money from all kinds of nefarious sources (cough Nike cough) lecture about who should be taking money from who.
"OWN UP TO IT!"
@@brumfiba Fix you caps…
Acting like big corporate America is so clean. And would never kill some one.
Rich, love your show. You definitely have a right to slam the LIV golf league and slam Greg Norman, going at the Saudi's who have definite human rights issues. Free game. So, why have you not, in your interest to be fair, gone after the PGA with their ties to the CCP? Could you please do a follow up just to make things fair.
Comment sent from a CCP produced phone.
Your request will sadly go unanswered. This was never about morality, as you and I, and anyone using their brain can see.
Comment sent from a CCP produced phone.
China is involved with sportwashing?
@@sayhey5323 no, ONLY Saudi is doing it haha. China is more evil in almost every way.
Really? Some guy you don’t know is leading? Charl Schwartzel…clearly showing how little you know about golf…only a Masters champion..
this video is so bad i can’t believe rich thinks this was actually it 🤣🤣🤣
So freaking dumb. ESPN never should be allowed near golf.
@@neuuser7071 It’s almost as bad as ESPN doing the NHL now…LOL
Golf is too much a niche sport to make it with 2 premier leagues . No disrespect to guys who took the $ ; it is too life changing for some to say no to
They where talking about a guy who was in last place. He won 5 events in his country and won 2k in total. He won a minimum of 120k
100% agree it is in no way a direct parallel to any major sports league. The only thing I could equate this to is the Saudi backed European sports league where major corporations and PE firms were backing it. These golfers are essentially 1-man shows. You would be fucking stupid to not join LIV..
@@answeris4217 You talking bout the guy that shot 24 over par?? Yea... he's a keeper...😅
"hey wheres my check?, Well be mailing them out next week sir, oh no no no I want mine now, I don't have any checks to give, well that guy got one right, gimme one of them big ones i don't care" Signed Happy Gilmore
Alan Shipnuck has said there were some 'very personal' items he didn't include in his 'Phil' book. Well, lets just wait for Billy Walters book to be released. To be continued.
I'm reading this book. It's pretty boring to be honest.
And remember folks while we have our own issues here, Its the Saudis that refuse to raise OPEC production levels.
Why should they? We can pump our own oil
CAN WAIT TILL OIL industry is toast!
SO WILL THE SAUDI'S!
@@tomstevens7452 BINGO.
Their oil they can do what they want. Its the current POTUS fault we have oil price issues by shutting down pipelines and closing drilling sites.
@@jaysantos536 That has never been true. Turn off your AM radio.
7 minutes and 14 seconds I'll never get back.
There are only two reasons I even watch golf. I love the game and appreciate the pro's skill level but the main reason I watch is it was one of only two professional sports left (Tennis) where the athletes compete to get paid. The ultimate winner took top prize and I loved that part the most. I am so sick of guaranteed contracts to pro athletes and that is exactly what the LIV tour has done. I personally will never watch anything associated with this league for that reason not to mention the whole Saudi thing.
Good story Rich, now I'm waiting for the how NBA players taking money from China is blood money story. Bet we won't venture into those waters though
It's a joke
He is talking about golf. If there was a “clean” league to the NBA in the country then you would have a point. Otherwise your comparison does not make sense.
@@guspdm PGA isn't clean. They kept in place segregation rules before the Civil Rights Act. You can't play this game because trust me, when it comes down to the come down no one is clean
@@guspdm Pga also has ties to China as well as a China mini tour, some of their top tourney sponsors have business deals with Saudi Arabia. I wouldn't exactly call that a clean league
@@prestonsmith7004 the difference is that the PGA Tour does not exist as a sport washing entity for Saudi or China.
Four days for 1 million or three days for 4 million, no brainer! And yes, I could look in the mirror and take their money!
I love the hypocrisy, as if every athlete and sports reporter isn't getting paid or endorsements from an evil entity
Once LIV replaces the current tours and its all over the telly... people will still watch... Look what happened with Sky and the premier league, test cricket etc. RIP PGA.
Not many household names in the Canadian Open
The Masters Champion and the PGA Champion are at the Canadian Open. That is where the competition is. The "household" names you are referring to, are has-beens, and aging players who can't get it done at the highest level anymore.
It’s always about the coin. Who can blame the players? PGA is finally getting an awakening to free enterprise.
Apparently, Shipnuck was lucky he didn't get dismembered and discarded.
YET
I love seeing people shill for giant corporations. Long LIV Golf screw the PGA machine
They are mercenary golfers,
"NOT" our role models, 😎
"stay poor my friend" role models but the bottle down nba china?
They’re taking care of the caddies, that’s something the PGA could learn from this endeavor
Other golfers have taken money from companies , who in the hell knows where the money comes from?
Isn't it a pinch stinky that this is all happening when gas prices and profits are uncharacteristically high??? Will their commercials show you how to cut a body in pieces??
The United States is just as guilty if not more of commuting crimes across the world. And the PGA is fine with that too. The PGA welcomes Chinese players without a thought. PGA is just mad that they are going to have competition now
Exactly!
And every year PGA tour has the HSBC tournament of champions in Shanghai China and have no issue with that and collecting that revenue.
3:21 - What beautiful timing..."The only thing they have to live with is...THE MAN in the mirror!" (And then dude walks into the "mirror" behind Eisen..)
The CEOs of Lockheed, Boeing, and Raytheon have no problem taking money from MBS.
What about endorsement deals? LIV has much larger purses BUT…will advertisers support those in the LIV Tour?
Nailed it Rich. Can't believe the Shark was my favorite as a youth.
Meanwhile Rich has an iPhone and probably wears Nike. Fucking hypocrite
Eat the rich.
Good for him. The PGA is a monopoly.
It broke my heart seeing him blow a 6 shot lead at The Masters against Faldo. Greg did in fact choke, but I felt for him. Now, I only see Faldo's greatness in shooting that brilliant 67. Faldo has turned into my hero.
@@rh81454
PGA might look like a monopoly, but they aren't murderers.
Rich Eisen is the Brian Stelter of sports
Except there are some people that listen to Stelter.
Absolutely
Brilliant
When I watch golf I don’t even think about who or what is behind it.
Blood Money Tour where you don't need a conscious to play
I watched Lee Westwood in a recent press conference with Poulter. Fair play, that man just oozes a high level of vomit inducing arrogance which is quite impressive.
It seems that most golfers are like that.
I used to play Golf. It was nothing but going to a Snobfest. I never looked back.
@@boogitybear2283 sounds like you played with assholes. My goal is to have fun, drink beer, and never keep my score!
Westwood is absolutely hilarious and completely humble. Watch his game with Rick Shiels.
Shipnuck can kick rocks. "Luckily for you guys I kept my cool". Who does he think he is? Journalist think too highly of themselves.
Agreed. The golfers are the talent. The journalists are parasites making a living off of them.
I like golf. I don't care who is the organization behind the tournament. Period.
I wish every single person in media who mentions the LIV Tour would explain, in detail, exactly how Jamal Khashoggi was murdered as well saying, by name, who directly ordered it. Everyone needs to hear hear the horror of the torture, no matter how horrifying, and let that stench hang over the tour forever.
Very happy to see 2 of the LIV tournaments will be played at Trump courses. Nice dig at the PGA.
Yes!! I didn’t know that. That’s probably tying into the way over the top outrage. If the PGA start to act like assholes, well then to hell with them. Golf doesn’t need them. Make Golf Great Again!!!
When the PGA Tour defectors signed up with LIV golf, they indeed have commitments they'll have to live up to. I'm sure there are "required appearances" at Saudi-backed non-golf events like political events, parties, the Prince's birthday, his son's birthday, where the players will be paraded around like lap dogs. And they can't say no.
Don’t kid yourself. PGA players have appearances required too.
These guys got paid WELL and if you think that the PGA and The Masters don’t have a sordid history, you’re completely ignorant of their record.
@@davidc2838 Did the PGA house, train and fund 14 of the 9/11 terrorists, including Osama Bin Laden that killed over 2,000 Americans?? Asking for a friend👍
If they say no… they, or one of their loved ones, may end up like Kashoggi
You’re not wrong Rich. What about the tremendous bias in journalism. Unfortunately, now days it’s become an arrogant profession.
The PGA is a profit center that provides nothing but elevated costs to the average golfer.
Why should Greg Norman have to own up to it.
You have a point. Assh****s don’t admit to anything, they show you who they are (cowards, trying to hide from their stink)!
Because he's a lying pos
Norman's response to Shipnuck was sarcasm. Ever heard of that???
I just wasted 10 minutes of my life that I'm not going to get back
F1 is doing the same thing at the cost of traditional race tracks in Europe. We Race As One, indeed.
$125 million reportedly for Dustin Johnson, $100 million for Mickelson. I mean, the Saudis are doing this everywhere, so it shouldn't be a surprise. This is chump change for them. They've been given a pass by most countries for their actions, so blaming these golfers for doing what everyone else is, rings a bit hollow.
Saudi's are investing in sports across the board... insane amounts of money
trying to "sports wash" their image and legacy of murderous atrocities.
The line about how these guys know where they are taking the money from and would have to live with that is interesting, I wonder does it apply to the Deshaun Watson accusers?
LIV Golf Tournament = European Super League for golf
this is the craziest situation, it just means more golf for me though
To be honest, I feel like there's gonna be a massive backdraft from all of this.
To hell with the PGA tour and their sanctions; it's more of the fact there's some things that wasn't explained for this upcoming golf league......
Things gonna happen that's gonna ruin that league. Journalists jailed, what if there's a gay golfer who kisses their partner while in the middle east. There are gonna be scandals.
Does the pga allow its players to play overseas threwout the year? If so are they also doing the same?
Unfortunately Portland, OR is taking a part in this tour. I wonder how many protesters will show up at this end of the month for the stop here. I hope it's a lot.
Exactly. Their signs should say “Jamal Khashoggi Memorial Golf Classic.”
Why? Do you have that little of a life that you want people to protest a fucking golf match? Seriously, can you tell me and whoever reads this what’s wrong with your mind?
@@leannebullington6382 why? Oh I get it, someone told you to be outraged, and like a moron, you just follow along. That’s adorable.
I find it hilarious that “LIV” is 54 in Roman Numerals, that their events are 54 holes, its star player has blown several 54 hole leads in majors, several of its other stars have done the same, and its commissioner was the absolute king of choking away 54 hole leads. Everything about this is for the underachiever looking for the easy way out.
In addition to the chokers you mentioned like Norman, Phil, DJ...the field is loaded with underachievers like Westwood, Oostie, Poulter, Sergio, etc.
Pretty sure you have never achieved a PGA Tour Win.
Pretty sure they have.
Also pretty sure they would tell you to STHU.
Pretty sure you’re not playing for $4 Million purse for a reason
@Alec R - of course!
@@davidc2838 Okay, and? Does that change anything I said, or they did?
@@DRM-nb1fg Obviously you and Will (above) have never played competitive golf.
Rings a bit hollow hearing anyone talk about "accepting Saudi money." As opposed to taking the good money from the good PGA Tour and all of the definitely very good multinational corporate sponsors and their track records all over the world. I see who the Saudi's are and what they're doing with this, but spare me any pearl clutching about where the money is coming from.
AMEN BROTHER - WHAT about all of the "private" country clubs that won't accept minority members of Jewish members. These are the biggest white elitists in the world.
Please watch the Eisen-Reilly segment. Epic
You can't expect golfers to be policemen about regimes. It's not like ours hasn't done a lot over the course of years.
I gotta say, I feel more inclined to watch liv over PGA simply for the better treatment of athletes
LOL ... like you think LIV gives two sh!ts about golfers... they'd dismember every one of their golfers if they thought it would get them a political or public relations advantage.
All players going to the LIV tour should loose all their sponsorship period !
That's a lot of money the Saudis are tossing around but that is some dirty money.
The man in the mirror is the one who has to earn a living and take care of their families. Take the money 💰
ESPN is in China's pocket ,they don't dare criticize them .I agree not to do business with Saudi Arabia ,but we definitely don't need to be bed with China either !!