How the Pyramids of Egypt were really built Addendum - Multiple Locks
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2012
- The weight of water dictates that the water shaft/lift (seen in the theory video) has multiple gated locks at 50 foot intervals, which keeps the pressure to within 2 bar pressure, within each segment.
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When construction project manager Chris Massey set off on a surprise trip to Egypt it seemed he was in for a relaxing time - a cruise down the Nile, a hot air balloon ride over the Valley of the Kings, sunbathing by the Red Sea and guided tours of the most spectacular ancient structures in the world...
But wherever he looked, he saw problems with the perceived wisdom on how the pyramids, temples and tombs of the pharaohs were built:
If limestone blocks were dragged up a mud brick ramp to be placed at the top of the Great Pyramid, where is the evidence of this huge ramp? How could materials such as wooden rollers and mud bricks take the strain put on them by tons of stone? Thousands of men are supposed to have dragged the building blocks across the desert in the searing heat - how did the ancient project managers keep morale up amongst the dusty and tired workforce?
Surely there must have been an easier way? Massey looked around him and saw the greatest resource available to the Egyptians - the waters of the mighty Nile.
This engaging account is the result of Massey's pool-side ponderings, in which he gives a detailed alternative theory of how the ancient Egyptians could have used water to their advantage to make pyramid building much easier. - Věda a technologie
As an engineer I can say the following:
1. The masonry walls of the shaft will burst under the pressure of the water column.
2. How are these locks supposed to be waterproof.
3. Filling the shaft with water and keeping that water inside would be a bigger challenge than building the pyramid itself.
4. The flotation device would need to be much bigger than shown in this animation. And thus the shaft would have to be wider which makes problems 1,2 and 3 even worse.
5. The buoyancy force acts in a vertical direction, not a diagonal one. The blocks would be dragging on the celling of the shaft possibly getting stuck.
I can go on but I think you get my point.
I recently heard that any water elevator theory is not that credible. They don't have a lot of support in academia. Yet, these videos are all over and you keep hearing people say "did you know that the egyptians used those water elevators"
@@spacemonkey7951 Usually when someone says "no offence" it is because they are a total wanker.
Very important points which do not seem to be dealt with that I have seen.
Attach the blocks with a rope on the bottom to a loop of rope and guide it up like a conveyor belt. And is the water pressure really enough to move blocks weighing a ton? let alone if they had 2 or three layers to reinforce it? easier to do that then the massive ramp idea. And when I calculated how many gallons you need to displace to get it neutrally buoyant if you use the top and all 4 sides, each face only needs to displace 116.9 gallons of water Roughly a little more then a bathtub per side, would need to be displaced. And granted if all you need is neutral buoyancy or slightly negative buoyancy, then the pulley system could drag them up the side and they wouldn't touch the roof of the tunnel. or just have the two positively buoyant and one slightly negative to balance out. And with multiple gates and locks the water pressure on a individual section can be reduced, yeah if you opened every gate at the same time then it would blast open the base, but what is it more likely to do, break the gate wood at the bottom, and all flow out or exert sideways pressure enough to move 1 or 2 interlocked 2.5 ton bricks? and all the friction force that would entail, it's not just a brick wall, it would act more as a solid stone wall in effect. And again what is easier, or occoms raizer this. Floot stuff around requiring relatively little man hours and need to pay people, or much fewer slaves etc. which as pharaoh means more money kept for you. Or do it the harder more costly way, and who is to say it isn't a combination of both methods. I know I for one don't even care if it's harder this way or more complex geting to work standing in cool river water all day or at least near it, due to it's micro climate of the cooler sourouinding area, would be way worth it. I used to work landscaping and I would wrap a cloth around my head and dip it in water, and that is SOOO much nicer then being out in the sun with no hat no cover, no shade, and working near water is SSSOOO SOOO much nicer. Go and work a week hauling around heavy equipment in the hot sun and you will do anything to keep cool, ice water, walk through the sprinklers, etc. Getting to be wet at my landscaping job are the easiert nicest hours to work. I spent over 3,000 hours in that job so I know what workign out in the sun is like, and hauling heavy crap around is like. I would not care if this method is more complex if it is at least possible, I as a worker would find it 10X 20X times easier to work on a pyramid like this than, your method. in fact I would rather work in the cool water of the pyramid like this, then out in the fields, or as a warrior, and who is to say they didn't do a lot off this work in their time not at war, keeping all your military strong and fit, while also making a monument saying don't F*** with us. If we can build something liek this we'll F** you up, so pay your homage. And don't start any trouble. And also having a line of people passing water buckets, is somthing even relaticly old and disabled people can do, and is much nicer work being around water in the hot sun then, your alternative of MOVE HUGE BLOCK RRRAAA!!! So cheaper easier, and like I've said befor the methods could have been done on small scale and other pyramids first while working out the methodology, and the kinks, how many gates do we need. Oh crap boss the gate at the lower lock broke again , the water seems to keep breaking it once we try to add more hight or water. "well add more" months later, it did it again... :/ add more then. etc etc. trial and error can get you to the point where you know what to do. and starting small and learning the concept, can get you much of this knowledge. Trial and error is essentially a crude form of the scientific method. so even if it is more complex, if easier, and cost and labor saving, anyone would rather do it this way. assuming it can be done. And granted I accept it may not be able to have done this way or maybe it could have been done this way but never was. Still I know if I was a worker, or grunt. this would be so much easier work.
@@LegoSwordViedos In this system, the workers still have to lift massive stones up the side of the pyramid, in order to make an elevator shaft out of them. An elevator with walls two or three stones deep, in order to withstand the water pressure.
Therefore, the elevator idea merely leaves the builders with the same dry lifting problems, plus the extra issues and labour and time to build, operate and maintain the water elevator.
Query :
How would they get that much water up there in the first place?
How would they move that much water every time they complete each level?
How thick would each gate be to be able to suppose that amount of pressure?
How would they have made water proof junctions around each gate?
How would they know each rock had moved up far enough to close the gate behind them?
How thick would these water tunnels need to be to stop the water pressure breaking it apart?
Wouldn't these water tunnels still be there if they were so solidly built?
hey good questions!
1.) By bucket, By pump or the same way its proposed that they moved millions of tonnes of blocks. Although I would suggest some form of rudimentary pumping mechanism. Even if it was powered by say men or beasts of burden walking around a wheel. This would allow a relatively large amount of water to be moved. It could be achieved by creating a secondary channel next to the main elevator, a miniture version, and pumping that water.
2.) They probably would have had a secondary access system, i.e. scaffolding, or an earthern rampart or something running along the sides, after all moving people in this water elevator is unpractical as people need oxygen, and also two way traffic would reduce throughput
3.) No idea, the gates at the panama canal aren't that big though, They could have even been internal stone valves.
4.) Not an engineer just supposition, ancient egyptians used bitumen to in boat building and in the mummification process, I would assume they would use something like that to assist iin waterproofing.
5.) I assume they would have a timer of some kind, the egyptians had glass around the time of the alleged construction, a glass piece filled with sand would be easy to construct and operate through experimentation, the time keeper could then bang a gong or ring a bell or something to signal the gate operators to open and shut them.
6.) Probably quiet thick tapering outward at the base, keep in mind the pyramid is millions of tonnes made out of ~2mn blocks, I am sure a few more wouldn't have been such a large challenge
7.) No, here is a thought exercise, how many houses or other buildings in your country are constructed/painted/maintained with scaffolding, after this is completed is the scaffolding left? Even some castles in europe have holes where logs can be inserted to protrude out of the walls at a right angle, and then support scafolding. Once construction is finished the scaffolding is removed.
chris massey said that the water tunnels still exist under the facade, but to proof that they have to destroy parts of the pyramid/s.
And what happens if a block gets stuck. Disassemble everything to figure out where the problem is?
@@junuvojam8453 Maybe the locks weren't external, the pyramid access tunnels and chambers were themselves used as siphons or clearly the egyptians had the technology to cast sandstones. And were cast on the spot.
Many former readers mentioned the reasons why it will not work.
I think there is one missing point.
As the height of water column increase, the pressure will be higher, the volumn of air in the animal stomach will be reduced, thus the buoyant force will be reduced.
The author demonstrated how it works in the part 2, but it will not work in actual scale.
The pool at the top is hilarious, each layer would have to have been heavily waterproofed and we know that isn't the case because much of the inside is badly fitting rubble. Plus there are all the internal chambers and tunnels to consider.
It's obvious. They put the blocks into the lower lock and then turned the pyramid on it's head, so that they will sink to the 'bottom', i.e. top, therefore doing away with flotation devices.
After gluing them into place upside down, they'd tip the whole pyramid over again and arrange it back into position.
Job done!
This wouldn't work because of the enormous amount of pressure to open each one, then you're dealing with water running out because there is no way the ancients could attain such a tight seal, which if they could would further increase the impossible pressure on the "gates".
Watch the video again. With the use of gates, the pressure is MUCH lower, and the gates are moved perpendicular to the pressure also.
The best moment is when blocks stop before the water lock and wait for it to open :)
Jean Pierre Houdin has the best theory ever as how the pyramids were built. Outer ramp for the first half height of construct Then internal ramp for the top upper half of construct all built with Stone,Wood, Rope,logs, Rollers.
1)wonder how they filled so much water on top and through the diagnal channel without leakage in that time.
2)did you find any evidence of pool workshop as mentioned in earlier video that blocks were shaped in water
I'm glad you went to the effort of putting this into animation and sharing it on CZcams, that is exactly what youtube should be for. In practice this method would be nightmare to engineer but i dont think many people would have approached the subject like this so well done.
yeah it's really amazing but it is indeed how they were built.
@@spacemonkey7951 No probably not.
@@spacemonkey7951 Even the narration stated that this is only conjecture, so beware of your overconfident certainty. If you lock yourself into this theory, you will be closed off to later, better ideas.
How is this a positive for CZcams? It's not educational, it's not accurate, it's basically on the level of the demented Flat Earth idiots.
the construction of such a structure is as difficult as building the pyramids themselves...
Not even close
We can't even build the pyramids with today's technology....
@@SavedbyHim Never see Big Benny? ^^
Impossible in fact. This idiot doesn't understand hydraulics.
And he knows even less about stones.
@@SavedbyHim In fact, we could build a pyramid 100 times more accurately than the one we now see. It is a total lie to say we could not build it. Of course we could. But there is no point in doing so, because we invented architecture and engineering in order to create buildings with large internal spaces.
The only point would be to show you how ignorant you are - but the billions of dollars required to build it is a pretty expensive way to demonstrate people's stupidity and ignorance.
There is nothing the ancients have done which we cannot do 1000 times faster and more easily today, and with 1000 times fewer workers.
Your ignorance truly knows no bounds.
A constant supply of water along with tonnes of Sand passed up to the top then wetted in a box used as counter weights to lift ,along with 100s of ox's lots and lots of hemp rope 100s of men, lots of woods , and a bloody good site forman is what was used.
How about *lime stone cement ?* Instead of moving blocks.
Cement does become stone over time, if it can soak up the CO2 and minerals form the surrounding area.
I think that would make the process harder. Moving up bags of cement, and pouring on site in moulds would just make the process of construction more complicated and impose more constraints on the speed of construction.
We built houses in mexico just with cement bags...
Locks or no, the water column is functionally continuous. Take a water column. Place three cross-sectional dividing barriers along the length of it. They can be thin films, or steel plates, doesn't matter. The pressure is the same in each segment before and after the cylinder is sectioned. You can't get those locks to "lift up" the water above them.
Sooo ...you are not lifting water my friend ... It is Buoyancy that lifts the stones.... The water is lifted into place by men to initally fill the tunnels and reservoirs above river level... Much easier to lift water in buckets than stone...
Every Time a gate opens you lose water. Not to mention the loss from leakage. Not one mention of a pump or even a bucket system to replace all that loss
it was in another video by the same guy. buckets
@@Fellowtellurian I think there is thing called a water pump. We have them today.
REM44MAG that much water weighs a ton. And for DIRT walls to be able to hold it up and push it to the top is really ridiculous.
@@fortunehorse2745 Who said they used dirt walls? The great pyramid itself was a hydraulic pulse generator water pump. Constructed from stones weighing 2-30 tons. The great pyramid itself can easily hold an enormous amount of water.
REM44MAG okay it’s stupid tho. What did they use to make the pouches air tight seal and the blocks float? Makes 0 sense. Where they get all the water from
But then what did they do with the canals? deconstruct it? Build over it? How did they get the final piece in place? How did they get the granite casing on top of the limestone?
Makes that all sound so super easy! I'd like to see a real world demonstration of this. Even opening locks like you show, dramatically increases water pressure, especially on the lock below the one being opened. It seems like to have presented a plausible, yet infeasible answer. I just can't see those blocks being quarried, transported, and placed in such a way that is efficient and doesn't create additional problems of flooding inside of the pyramid with such vast quantities of water being utilized.
Unfortunately the concept above ain't "water tight". So better don't have high hopes to ever see it in action as displayed above 🙃
From a physics perspective, I'm on board with some of it - the floatation, using water as a leveling system for carving shape-perfect blocks, the lot - except for the doors and maintaining a water- and air-tight seal in the column. With 50 feet (parallel to the face of the pyramid) between doors, that's a vertical distance of about 30 feet. This means that doors have to withstand the water pressure that comes from a 30-foot vertical column of water. (This is a very poor engineering assumption. In reality, the bottom door will have to carry the entire vertical column at all times, but I'll ignore that here.)
The first problem with the doors is that of being able to withstand the pressure of the water column above it. When the bottom door is closed and the next door up is open (to allow blocks to float past) that bottom door has to carry the water column of both doors - or 60 vertical feet of pressure. That's nearly 30 pounds per square inch. Given the 4x4x2-foot dimensions of a block, we can assume that a door would have to be at least 6x6-foot to allow a block with all of its floats to pass. This is a very conservative estimate.
A 6x6 foot door is 72x72 inches, or 5184 square inches. Multiplied by 30 psi, that's a wooden door that has to carry a load of at least 15,000 pounds of static load. That is, load while it is not in motion. We're talking about a massive door here.
Since we can assume that a door is only being opened when the door above it is closed, it would be carrying half of of 15,000 pounds in dynamic load. This still means that this door has to open and close with 7,500 pounds of pressure on it. This isn't the age of ball bearings we're talking about here.
Furthermore, how do you keep a tight seal between a moving, wooden door, and its pane? While under pressure, wood deforms - in this case, downward. This compresses the wood and deforms it away from its pane on the uphill side, opening a considerable gap. Keeping this from leaking at a tremendous rate isn't even an engineering reality in 2017, much less 2580 B.C. Even the toughest wet woods will deform by .01 inch under that kind of pressure. For the top of a 6 foot door, this leaves a leak with a cross section of .72 square inches. At 60psi, that comes to a leak rate of 45 liters per hour, per door.
From an engineering perspective, there's too much that could go wrong for anyone to put this into production. If a door near the top fails, you get a cascade failure of all doors and the collapsing column of water puts the foundation at risk. Years of high-pressure water at the bottom of the structure also puts the foundation at risk. If a block gets stuck in the column, humans have to go in to free it, but they'd be unable to manipulate the block once the column was drained to let the people in.
I say I like everything but the doors. I would almost be prepared to believe locks, except that in order to raise a floating object with a lock, you have to allow a larger amount of water to go downstream. (In a perfect lock, the mass is 1-to-1, but this cannot be achieved unless your lifted object fits the lock exactly and you suffer no evaporation.)
For the record, at 146m tall, the pyramid would have been placing a pressure of 207 psi on the lower door - for a total pressure of 1.07 million pounds.
And, rather foolishly, I omitted the fact that a 30+ -foot column of water, supported by vacuum pressure, is 1) as tall as you can possibly get and 2) near to 0psi at the top, which would rupture any animal skins filled with air. (The dependency on vacuum supporting the column of water is called out in the original video, but not addressed in this one.)
man , u really know some hard stuff.
Not to mention all the labor of having to lift up fresh water continually to fill the ever increasing height of the building itself as well as to stay ahead of the leaks. You are right, the doors would have bound and been impossible to open, which would have left the only solution, to refill the shaft from almost empty for every lift. Not practical or doable.
yeah ummm... what he said
Every time a block and floats go in those locks it displaces an equal amount of water down and out of the locks. As the blocks go up into each lock that amount of water is displaced downward into the lower lock. When the block reaches the top the water that was displaced from the locks is replaced by that amount of water from the top pool. So in effect you are trading water for stone, but you had to get that water up there in the first place plus extra for evaporation.
presumably it is easier to bring water up in smaller quantities than the blocks?
and how do they get the tons of water to the site of the stone installation? How do tey raise the top reservoir? How do they get the stones out of the top reservoir and into position?
One other thing I haven't seen covered is the amount of water needing transport to the top to replace displaced volume. So with the stone having roughly 3 tonnes per m3, minimum required to float a 1 tonne stone, will be roughly 2m3 of air, making each package 3m3 volume. Every time to remove package at top of system, you will need to hand carry 3 tonnes of water and pour it in the top = 3 m3 (even more if leaks, and positive buoyancy needed) , not impossible just another hurdle. I love the thought process, but along will other problems I see mentioned, I still say busted.
How did they get the water to the top ? and if they could get water to the top you wouldn't float the blocks up. You would use the weight of the water on top to pull the blocks in a container up one side as the same type container filled with water went down the other . the containers could be interchangeable for blocks or water . the rope between the 2 containers would be a problem though. 1000 ft long
What if something got stuck, or damaged? How do you get it back down if it is junk? In addition, what about them crashing into each other. I think there would be more padding on them just in case....
If I were to built it today I would use an internal ramp. It doesn't produce any waste and provides healthy shade.
I have two words that bring in to question this theory. 1. Rocks 2. Float. Now unless the weight of rock has changed massively since the building of the great pyramids I doubt this would work. Even water in large amounts is heavy
man, you really cracked the case, please share the stuff you smoke......
richard martinez
hahahahhahahahahahhahaha
No kidding I have nothing that good.
This is my theory:
How the pyramids of Egypt were possibly and most likely built:
The stones were shaped at or near the quarry and transported to the Pyramid site in this method :
An assortment of encasements from spherical to cylindrical, encased the block and interlocked into place around each block stone allowing the stone to roll. Certain attachments around the encasement would allow either fulcrums or rope attachments to ease movement and allow for tight corner turning with the least amount of men. Once the stone reached the top, the interlocking encasement was disassembled and the stone was leaned over and slid into place.
This technique would have eliminated the need for lifting devices or a massive ramp.
My theory is that most likely it would have been a spherical encasement allowing for tight cornering. This would be the most logical way to transport a large stone using the pyramid itself as the ramp.
So in essence the stones were rolled up the pyramid in a spherical encasement that was removed once the stone reached its destination and leaned and slid into place once atop the pyramid. This process was repeated all the way to the top.
I have not decided yet if the encasements were made of a metal alloy or limestone etc. If bronze was used it would have been melted down for chisel making and as such there would be no evidence of the spherical encasements.
If limestone was used it may have then been discarded and reused for other construction.
In conclusion the only way to deliver a square to the top of a Pyramid is to encase it in a Spherical interlocking encasement.
olan levan
Hey buddy, I would like to see the 200 ton blocks roll uphill too, but it ain't happening.
Look up sonic levitation. And also check out the cymatics experiments done inside the Red Pyramid.
there is Any pump used to send water to the top,pls tell that also??
What about mechanisms and energy needed to manipulate the locks?
Inventive! This makes me wonder if the blocks could be lifted or floated by hot air balloons instead of water? How big would such balloons need to be?
The balloons would have to be massive, like much bigger than a standard hot air balloon. If you think about how much the basket weighs compared to a granite block.
THIS WILL NOT WORK. Here's why. The gates will be under enormousness weight. It will not move without enormous leaks. Wet wood against stone produces a lot of tackiness. What works is an internal ramp recently discovered.
I think the same
I agree.
Yep agreed
Agreed, but not about the ramp. Some of the granite blocks in the kings chamber are 80 tonnes - what is the maximum gradient an 80 tonne block could be dragged/pushed up and once you’ve figured that out tell me how long the ramp would need to be to achieve raising these blocks to over 350ft in the air. No chance.
Interesting theory, though it seems unlikely to me that you would use the outside of a pyramid as the place to raise something via water, it seems to me the center of the pyramid would be a much more sensible place for that, giving you the cumulative weight of the blocks from the outside to the center to hold up to the ever increasing water column weight.
May i ask what the music is you are using? Name?
How would they be able to open the locks???
How did the water flow up ward with the locks
Maybe when pyramid was done and completed, the outside of pyramid reflected sun heat energy to top of pyramid cap. This might create heat pressure exchange like Stirling engine 🤔. The pyramid tunnels pressure might of been constantly contracting and expanding on the inside???
How are you gonna get all the water up there
Could this be done using a fluidized bed?
The first thing I thought of when I saw the lift was the amount of pressure that must be on the base. This goes some way to explain how to relieve it. The gates are not vertical though. They would need guides, seals and a way to pull them in and out.
The amount of effort to pull the gates up and building four shafts..overall is that less effort than lifting the stones the A-frame way?
I like how clean the animations look. Water is a great solution. Stick with it!
I just love all these theories. My main question on this one is: If the stone weighed 4,000lbs and the only flotation devices they had was Goat skins filled with air, how many goat skins does it take to float 4,000lbs. Also been established they would have to cut, move, and place a block every 2 or 3 minutes 12 hours a day for 20 years. Sure would have to open and close those gates really fast. It's all Hog Wash.
The Cathedral in Prague took 300 years to complete and I studied this location. WHO in the hell said 20 years to do this Pyramide project? Professors in England who are Jesuits and thier tour guides with a hidden agenda. This twenty year estimate is preposterous to any engineer or contractor even if a railroad carried the stones and cranes installed the blocks. You sir are brain dead.
Acidemia should have just said ten year because the Pharaoh was impatient and because he was rich he could have his own way be just putting more slaves on the project.
Chaz Buck. The lighthouse at Alexandria took 20 years to build..So how could it take the same amount of time to build a pyramid when they're so much bigger!?
Egyptian pyramids
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The earliest known Egyptian pyramids are found at Saqqara, northwest of Memphis. The earliest among these is the Pyramid of Djoser (constructed 2630 BC-2611 BC) which was built during the third dynasty. This pyramid and its surrounding complex were designed by the architect Imhotep, and are generally considered to be the world's oldest monumental structures constructed of dressed masonry.[6]
It is believed the pyramid was built as a tomb for Fourth Dynasty Egyptian pharaoh Khufu (often Hellenicised as "Cheops") and was constructed over a 20-year period. Khufu's vizier, Hemon, or Hemiunu, is believed by some to be the architect of the Great Pyramid.[2] It is thought that, at construction, the Great Pyramid was originally 280 Egyptian cubits tall (146.5 metres (480.6 ft)), but with erosion and absence of its pyramidion, its present height is 138.8 metres (455.4 ft). Each base side was 440 cubits, 230.4 metres (755.9 ft) long. The mass of the pyramid is estimated at 5.9 million tonnes.
"It is believed"... it is not a fact.
yeah but how does the water/blocks move up against gravity?
loving the background music 😊
What is the music used in this video?
Initially, how do you get the water up to the pool /canal at the top?
Greatest theory I have ever seen now let me smoke a join!
How did they finished?
I would like to see an example of someone floating a 70 ton block with some logs!! Shit do a 3 ton block!!
Use some kind of inflated goats or elephants bladders and Im sure it would work if you had enough 'air bladders' tied together?
Please tell me what kind of brand you drink????
THE OTHER ONE WITH TOTO,HAVE YOU HERD ABOUT?
I don't think that'd be possible since it requires waterproof walls and draling with lots of water pressure. but what if it was an open top system with multiple locks like in some UK canals. The problem would then be how they filled the water. The filling of the water couldve been done with archimedeis screw which would push back its invention date back a fair bit.
It would require so much strength to remove the top lock if the top of the three blocks is pushing upwards I would think.
I personally think they would put the water shaft in the center of the pyramid. The shape of the pyramid would scale with the reinforcement needed to retain the pressure of the water. In addition the bottom of the shaft would only need one strong bulkhead to keep the water in. In practice a stone would be moved on rollers down a long hallway leading to the center of the pyramid. The stone would be loaded onto the shaft. The bulk head would be securely closed and then reinforced By backfilling the hallway with material. Water would slowly be added into the shaft. As the water level rises the stone would be floated to the top. Once the stone reaches the top the shaft can be drained and used for the next stone.
Very cool, great theory... plausible.
What kind of "floats" are being used?
Fireman Tim goatskins or plastic bottles, I'm not sure
+criztu Helium balloons
♒ the idea is acceptable but the video is missing the elementary nature of water is always stay horizontal so how realy the shafts works maybe was water allways in middle of pyramide and so another lift system
I really wonder if this could actually work! Seems feasible!
You don't need those floaties if you just do 1 boat at a time. Just tie one or a few blocks to a boat, maybe use an internal shaft to avoid the pressure issues. Tie the stone to the bottom of a boat, drain water from the top slowly into the shaft and let it fill around the sides of the boat. Someone can be riding the boat and make sure it doesn't get stuck. Once the pyramid is to a certain height (about the height that the internal shafts go to) it's easier to just use the water as a counter weight to pull the stones up from the other side.
If you allow for the idea that each section was drained slowly into the previous section, then you could also use a similar mechanism to what you describe here without relying on the floaties.... rather than the blocks floating up to the next lock, there is always an empty section. so the boat starts at the bottom. Lock 0 is closed behind it. Section 0 is mostly full. Lock 1 is open and the section is empty. water is slowly drained from lock 2 to the side, around the boat until the boat floats above the height of lock 1. Section 2 is now empty, and section 1 is almost full. Lock 1 is shut behind, then water is slowly drained from lock 3 until the boat & block reaches the height of lock 2, lock 2 is shut with section 2 above it almost full. Section 3 is now empty, etc. etc. someone could even still ride the boat if they trusted the locks and the people working them 😅. And I guess with this method you could have more than 1 boat going up at a time
but how the reach to this great height
They actually used a zeppelin made of goat hides to lift the blocks. The workers would suck out the helium through long straws and load up the blocks and re-inflate. The job took longer than anticipated though because everyone sounded like Donald Duck and instructions were typically misunderstood..
...period!
Legit. I was there, so can confirm.
Your definitely making some headway on this. Did the experiments in my lab “basement of my grandmas house” after one chemical explosion and 2 fires. We making progress.
That theory is complete shait! What they did is they built a 150 meter high wall around the entire work area -including quarry -, about 50 square miles. Then they filled it with water to form a lake, in which they then freedived with bamboo straws and the aid of tame whales to fit the blocks together. This also solves the problem with heat stroke while working in the desert.
+Lene Karlsvik Brosché i support you.
It's leaking. Fix the roof quickly!
Right but how does the water stay in place?, how are the slots opened?, how are they opening them with these floating stones pressing against them?, how are they floating these extremely heavy stones with small simple floats?. I want this to be true by the way. Just seems way easier explain than to actually attempt.
amazing theory.
Works day after day in the Panama Canal. Does it not? -6219
How where when did they got the water 🚿
The Nile.
how they brought the water to the top ?
Daze broughts dem up dare wid buckets my brother! Aint you done watched dem other videooos ?
We are talking of 2,5 to 3 tons each block weighs, so floating upwards they would damage the gates by floating against them !
And the locks magically open as the blocks flow up? It's going to be pretty hard to lift them with all of the water pressure... And they are on an angle...
The stones to heavy the Stone's would not float?
I think they simply used large wooden pulley cranes that were dissembled and moved up a level as the pyramid grew.
Impossible.
@@josenildoferreiraassuncao8963 It was an ancient civilization that came here from Mars after the Earth underwent the end of the last Ice Age, when the glaciers finally
retreated. The stone blocks themselves would have been moved by using certain sonic frequencies capable of floating them several feet off the ground.
This technology is being safely guarded by certain criminals who believe that they are the heirs to this ancient order of magi. They've uncovered
all manner of wisdom from records that were found in the Sphinx and certain other tombs of dead pharaohs.
water pressure is about 1 atmosphere per 10 m.
if the gate is closed 10 m up and bottom gate is open, the pressure at the gate 10 m up would be 0 atmospheres, but water would boil before that,
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_point
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressure
float the blocks to the site "but" pull them up to the top with a leather bucket filled with smaller weights used as a counterweight
Brilliant!
Some of the blocks that were used in pyramid are heavy than 20 tonnes. So it is nearly impossible to transport them to a great height.
Excellent vedio really very smart
It's an interesting idea, but in addition to the other issues people have brought up, here are a couple more:
1. The big issue I see is blocks getting stuck. If one of them got caught somewhere in the water tunnel, there would be nothing that anyone could do to get it unstuck.
2. No column of water can hang suspended by its own suction any higher than about 10 meters, because past that point the pressure at the top gets so low that the water will boil at room temps. This is especially true for warm nile water. That doesn't negate this theory, but it's something to take into account.
Whhhaaa?? No way really ??
Such reasonable ideas
how they water stay up on pyramid
密閉性を確保できるか
水をその高さまで運ぶこと自体が大変な労力
板をスムーズに開閉できるか
石に浮力を与える方法はどうするか。
狭い水路を移動する時、フロートの磨耗はないのか
水路の途中で石が引っかかった場合、
石を取り除くことができるか
素人のおれにも技術的な課題が思いつく。
i wonder about he seals of the moving pressure gates, which is a tricky issue even in today's standards....
The first thing is that to move that much water up that high takes a massive undertaking just to get the water up let alone the blocks. Unless the theory is the water level was up that high already. Ridiculous.
Cool contraption, i am not trying to be rude like i know some can be. But there is actually pictures or hieroglyphs from inside the pyramid showing them using water on top of the sand.& ski like sleds. If u wet the sand to just the right wetness u can slide even the heaviest objects across its surface. As for how they went up the pyramid, well i havent the slightest. I do believe that we are seriously over thinking it tho.
This is an exciting and clever idea, but it’s more likely that the enormously heavy blocks were like poured concrete “in vitro.” In other words, the builders used internal structures to haul wet limestone up the pyramid, poured the wet material into wooden forms, then removed the forms when the wet limestone dried. It likely dried pretty fast in hot Egypt.
Maybe a inside channel was used. In the middle of the base , not from outside.
I bet there a lot of water on the desert 🐫 lol
Okay let's say this is true, how you would get that last few pieces on top???? Especially the last piece on the very top and then come down from there??? Did they just slide down the pyramid??? Because supposedly it was smooth with ivory, how did they make it all smooth from tip to floor???
What if...
Instead of an external shaft on the outside, the grand gallery is the water shaft and the subterranean chamber was used as a ram pump to move the Nile water up instead of workers bringing up a million buckets of water.
It's an entertaining theory!
Is that pumic stone
I have a theory about the so called 'relieving chambers' of the Kings chamber. 1st they're not relieving chambers as the Queens chamber would also require them too, if not more so as it is under a much greater load being lower in the pyramid.
2nd, The beams of the kings relieving chamber are all smooth on the underside & rough on the top sides.
If the pyramid builders wanted to make the kings chamber bigger for some reason (maybe to tune the resonance?), then all they would have to do is cut the ceiling beams out from underneath. And as the beams are already smooth on the underside, they now have a perfectly flat ceiling again that is now a few feet higher. They could continue to do this if they wanted, all the way up till they reached the gabled roof (which is like the Queens chamber).
Alien space ships with sky hooks is a more plausible explanation.
it's good to see and lurn for you tube
Dangit! Every single time I think I can have an original idea, someone's already thought of it! Well, my thoughts are this, except that the water shafts were internal and that the shaft system we know of that exist was to control the water and air pressure
how did they pull the locks out?...idk man
Good question, and an even better question would be how did they push the gates IN against water pressure? The animation of them lifting the gates by pulling on ropes then letting them DROP easily back into place is a joke.. absurd lack of real-world mechanical/hydraulic practicability.
water pressure in step stone "pipe" would be very high. Riveted cast iron bight be better solution .... ;)
My theory is they built the pyramid upside down. First they dug a huge hole like in the shape of a pyramid and just filled it in with huge granite blocks. Then, when it was finished all they had to do was apply the anti gravity gismo and flip it over. QED
Seems more likely that the entire pyramid would be submerged in a man made lake, up to the level currently being constructed. Lots of room for basically standard canal locks between the quarry and the project.
How do ya get all that water up that high and keep it up there its not going to be perfectly sealed and evaporation problems would be a big problem You would have to have a massive pump When ya open the first gate to float the boulders up how do ya get the boulder to move forward so they can float up Its sealed off?? the floats cant be on top the will drag against the ceiling Sure you can use rope but that would have to be one long rope on rollers and it would have to be twice as long so it could be used like a conveyor belt When the boulders float up they are going to hit against the gates unless they are tied to this rope For this to work you have gotta add a lot more details to your theory I just dont see men with sticks moving those big boulders around even with mud They are so heavy the mud will just squirt out and you will still have a lot of friction to try to slide them I set up mobile homes for sevral years I know how hard it is to move heavy things LOL Ive seen steel rollers get fattened I've seen steel cables snap like thread They had none of these things Its mind blowing for sure ✌️
This doesn't take into account the 70+ ton granite blocks used for the kings chamber. You cant float 70 tons in water with a bundle of wooden logs
Lots of folks can bash on this theory, yet they don't offer their own brilliant theories. I, too, am convinced that water, water locks, flotation, barges, and barge cranes were used to transport and place the blocks. It's easy to bash and dismiss another's theory, but don't do it unless you can offer a better theory.
brabanthallen 2bars of water pressure is 20m (66ft) of water column height. If the locks are spaced at 50ft, when each lock is opened the bottom of the column would see 100ft of water column. Therefore water pressure would be slightly more than 3bars. Also, as each successive lock is opened, the pressure would not decrease as the above lock is closed. Only if there were a way to drain off water from the bottom of each lock, after the above lock is closed, would the water pressure decrease. Making it necessary to add water at the top level every time a block were lifted. This would not need to be a large volume of water, just enough to compensate for the expansion and bulge of the lift tubes.
I like this explanation of how the pyramids were built, It makes the most sense. However, This part of his theory needs a little work.
Jordan Snowhook It has been a long time since I studied barometric pressure and water properties, so i will take your word for it. I understand that the Egyptians were master hydrologists, and the fact that they discovered Khufu's "crane boat" buried in a pit near the great pyramid is a pretty telling evidence that water was utilized in the building process. What amazes me is the condition of the boat. It is said that it is the best preserved ancient boat ever found. I will have to study up on water pressures and locks to become familiarized with what you stated. It makes a lot of sense that this was a likely method of building the pyramids. So far, IMO, this is the most logical explanation I have heard.
+brabanthallen pullies and cast limestone concrete
+brabanthallen that is not good evidence the pyramids were built with water, it is like burying a guy with his fishing boat; doesn't mean he built his house with a boat, just a hobby that meant a lot to him. There were heiroglyphs showing sleds used to move the blocks on the sand. That is real evidence.
NatureHacker Do you have a link for your source?
For those people who still think the pyramids are tombs then why did they go to such great lengths to hide the tombs in the 'Valley of the Kings' so that no one could find and rob or disturb them in the afterlife, only to build a massive pyramid which is like a massive stone sign telling grave robbers exactly where the Pharo is buried?
Ridiculous, how were the heavy locks doors operated to pull them out at an angle at such a steep incline with a huge tonnage weight of water. This water tower is more complex than the pyramids itself.
Absolutely crazy
Plausible they did have rubber and copper back then runner from. A sap of surtain tree volcanisation