Stop using div in React (+ Fragment, Semantic Tags)

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    ⏱️ Timestamps:
    0:00 Intro
    0:08 div problems
    1:13 React Fragment
    1:39 Second example: long vs short
    2:58 Semantic Tags
    3:20 html, head, body
    4:52 main
    5:19 header
    5:53 nav, ul, li, a, Link, img
    7:12 footer
    8:12 section
    9:06 h1, h2, h3
    9:20 p
    9:26 aside
    9:35 article
    10:27 button vs a
    10:46 input vs textarea
    10:52 b, strong, i, em vs span
    11:59 Stripe website
    13:50 MDN website
    14:36 Web apps
    15:32 Important
    #webdevelopment #programming #coding

Komentáře • 127

  • @tnktaliaba2994
    @tnktaliaba2994 Před 9 měsíci +82

    It’s really nice to review the basics of semantics directly with reactjs and not in an html file. Thanks!

    • @ByteGrad
      @ByteGrad  Před 9 měsíci +6

      Thanks, that was indeed the goal

  • @Waxaranai
    @Waxaranai Před 9 měsíci +25

    sometimes people forgot to learn the basics, great content!

  • @samuelsamson690
    @samuelsamson690 Před 8 měsíci +9

    I love how you go straight to the point cover little things in a very huge way I really appreciate.

  • @developedbythet
    @developedbythet Před 8 měsíci +4

    Another educator that use semantic tags properly and it feels satisfied. In a world of modern component based era, people are misusing 'div' everywhere. Thank you.

  • @trusht
    @trusht Před 9 měsíci +7

    I'm now inspired to replace unnecessary div elements throughout my app with more semantic tags. Thanks for the insights!🙏

  • @Adenafun
    @Adenafun Před 9 měsíci +2

    Wow, that was great especially since I liked how fast and straight you talk about everything not jumping around the subject. Thanks a lot ❤

  • @boneykingofsomewhere
    @boneykingofsomewhere Před 9 měsíci +2

    What a fantastic video! This really taught me much more about the meaning and value of semantics and layouts, you got a subscriber buddy :D

  • @abderrahmanemya6602
    @abderrahmanemya6602 Před 9 měsíci +1

    your videos suite my short attention span lol. you talk fast but calmly, and you get straight to the point, i learn a lot in a small amount of time. i would love to connect with you on linkedin

  • @blackpurple9163
    @blackpurple9163 Před 9 měsíci +1

    This cleared up a lot of underlying doubts, great information, thanks for making it so easy

  • @wizard.of.moz.472
    @wizard.of.moz.472 Před 7 měsíci +1

    This video was AMAZING! As soon as I started following your advice everything started to click! Please make one explaining forms, etc!

  • @ROL4NDFPV
    @ROL4NDFPV Před 9 měsíci +1

    Nice video good information, one side note a is the same as a unless when you add an title, aria-label or aria-labelledby on the .
    Here's some more info on it
    ---
    A landmark containing content that is relevant to a specific, author-specified purpose and sufficiently important that users will likely want to be able to navigate to the section easily and to have it listed in a summary of the page. Such a page summary could be generated dynamically by a user agent or assistive technology.
    Authors SHOULD limit use of the region role to sections containing content with a purpose that is not accurately described by one of the other landmark roles, such as main, complementary, or navigation.
    Authors MUST give each element with role region a brief label that describes the purpose of the content in the region. Authors SHOULD reference a visible label with aria-labelledby if a visible label is present. Authors SHOULD include the label inside of a heading whenever possible. The heading MAY be an instance of the standard host language heading element or an instance of an element with role heading.
    Assistive technologies SHOULD enable users to quickly navigate to elements with role region. Mainstream user agents MAY enable users to quickly navigate to elements with role region.
    ---
    As found on www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria/#region

  • @core-developers
    @core-developers Před 9 měsíci +4

    I didn't consider the importance of semantic tags until I started using them in schema structures. They make a significant difference in SEO

  • @tomich20
    @tomich20 Před 4 měsíci +1

    thanks, so many years, and now i understand the diff between article and section 🙌

  • @BladyCzlowiek
    @BladyCzlowiek Před 9 měsíci +4

    this really is the best channel on youtube. The amount of knowledge I gained from this channel. I am looking forward to the nextjs course

    • @ByteGrad
      @ByteGrad  Před 9 měsíci

      Thanks, appreciate it

  • @diogosaraiva17
    @diogosaraiva17 Před 9 měsíci +7

    As a junior developer I can affirm that this video is gold. Thanks a lot dude + subscribed

    • @pianistanton1
      @pianistanton1 Před 9 měsíci

      how long have you been learning front end to get your first job? Is it still possible to get a job as a junior frontend? or everyone just need mid/senior?

    • @diogosaraiva17
      @diogosaraiva17 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @pianistanton1 I would say that it's hard to get a job as a junior developer but if you're consistent with your daily code you'll get a job sooner or later. Also, try to create/fix github repos, recruiters often ask for it, at least in europe.

  • @LynxBaretta
    @LynxBaretta Před 9 měsíci +1

    I really really like the content of this video a los of things that I was not paying attention and I was still doing like sometimes using divs instead of fragments and correct use of HTML semantics I that I was not aware of their correct meaning. Thanks!

  • @cmdxen
    @cmdxen Před 9 měsíci +1

    another hidden gem channel 💯, sleek explanation

  • @zush2305
    @zush2305 Před 9 měsíci +1

    That's really nice way of covering this topic.
    I had the same idea of diving in into HTML semantics, are there any good resources to read about this that you'd recommend?

  • @manpreetjord1885
    @manpreetjord1885 Před 9 měsíci +1

    great work. Covered some really good topics which people generally ignore because it still works for them. Just one thing, I thought I was watching the video on 1.25x but when I checked and it was normal speed.

  • @takeshikriang
    @takeshikriang Před 9 měsíci +1

    Great video. Clear and concise, thanks

  • @ElliottTheUnicorn
    @ElliottTheUnicorn Před 8 měsíci +1

    learned a lot, subbed

  • @Alex-bc3xe
    @Alex-bc3xe Před měsícem +1

    You are really good teacher.

  • @tszhong0411
    @tszhong0411 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Thanks! I learned new things today.

  • @joantsyn7578
    @joantsyn7578 Před 24 dny +1

    Great contents!👍

  • @jonzer3028
    @jonzer3028 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Learned a lot, thanks.

  • @tomasburian6550
    @tomasburian6550 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the good stuff, learned something new 👍

  • @AlexMercadoGo
    @AlexMercadoGo Před 9 měsíci +4

    I wish I wasn’t leaving a Svelte team for a React team

  • @sivadhanushuppalapati4041
    @sivadhanushuppalapati4041 Před 8 měsíci +2

    This video and the content is too good.

  • @ganesha3559
    @ganesha3559 Před 9 měsíci +2

    what an exceptional video! Trust me, this is one of a kind.
    Your semantic tag explanation with a real world popular website as a review -- this content cannot be found anywhere in the web
    for this alone you need a Subscribe + Bell icon hit.
    bravo....

    • @ByteGrad
      @ByteGrad  Před 9 měsíci

      Thanks, appreciate it

  • @gotosleepqueen7959
    @gotosleepqueen7959 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I learned a lot from this video!

  • @user-ru8hn9hb5c
    @user-ru8hn9hb5c Před 8 měsíci +1

    They didn't teach this in college, lol. Thanks!

  • @MrPlaiedes
    @MrPlaiedes Před 8 měsíci +3

    As a lead dev, semantics are important for accessibility but eventually you'll likely be building components that are abstracted away from the actual web page. It's still important to minimize div soup.

  • @tvujtatata
    @tvujtatata Před 6 měsíci

    Good stuff most people dont talk about. Personally, I am more interested in writing semantically correct markup although I am a bit confused when it comes to details. Nav without a Header if there is nothing but navigation in the header. Section in Main, if there is only 1 table and 1 button on the whole page.

  • @yuvalbra
    @yuvalbra Před 9 měsíci +2

    what extensions you used with react and nextjs ?

  • @2gbeh
    @2gbeh Před 9 měsíci +1

    You said it all. I always encourage my studs to use HTML5 with strict XML guidelines 😎👍

  • @AWaterKnight
    @AWaterKnight Před 9 měsíci

    You can also return an array of elements, though I do not prefer that, either. I guess being able to pull out articles means that the structural content is meaningful, it does not have the environmental styling or accompanied behavior normally if you just pull out HTML code between opening and closing article tag. A lot of divs are spawned to use them for layouting as said in the video. This way, you can separate the concerns rather than passing the styling information to the contained element and making it their responsibility to correctly apply it.

  • @AndrewAkaHrun
    @AndrewAkaHrun Před 9 měsíci +1

    Amazing tutorial!

  • @Diego_Cabrera
    @Diego_Cabrera Před 9 měsíci +4

    You should make a video on the folder structure best practices.

    • @ByteGrad
      @ByteGrad  Před 9 měsíci +1

      It’s on the todo-list, thanks 👍

  • @gurvirbaraich2028
    @gurvirbaraich2028 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Great, you learned from the comment on your yesterday's video, but it would be nice if you could speak a bit more loud.

  • @touratica
    @touratica Před 9 měsíci +17

    I really like how informative your videos are, but it sure would be a lot easier to understand you if the sound were a bit louder. That said, keep up with the great content

    • @ByteGrad
      @ByteGrad  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Sorry about that, will increase volume

    • @fugduhhh
      @fugduhhh Před 9 měsíci +5

      It's loud enough. Just hit the volume increase button a few times 😒

    • @purshotambohra2131
      @purshotambohra2131 Před 8 měsíci

      @@fugduhhh correct

    • @tvujtatata
      @tvujtatata Před 6 měsíci

      @@fugduhhh When you need to do this for every audio content, it becomes annoying. I dont think such a small recommendation hurts anyone. Dont forget about accessibility that the video is also partly about.

  • @ryostyles9904
    @ryostyles9904 Před 9 měsíci

    Is it same as using the empty fragment? (
    Items
    )

  • @Ogos-End
    @Ogos-End Před měsícem +1

    Your vid has good semantic meaning..

  • @philipepics
    @philipepics Před 9 měsíci +1

    is recommended using section with a heading tag, without causes warning

  • @JaGaNezhil
    @JaGaNezhil Před 9 měsíci +1

    Great work❤

  • @luisllaboj
    @luisllaboj Před 9 měsíci

    What is the keyboard shortcut to import components? Like for "Link" and "Footer" you click on something and they're instantly imported. How can I do that without having to click on the little lightbulb that imports it for me?

  • @holyjack5215
    @holyjack5215 Před 8 měsíci

    Here it goes refactoring… Thanks for a great video!

  • @VadimCherepnin
    @VadimCherepnin Před 9 měsíci

    Which Visual Studio Code theme do you use?

  • @fdkgamer3631
    @fdkgamer3631 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Istg overwhelmed by everyone..Some people is saying div is everything..Some is saying don't start with the div..need a complete video on when to use div

  • @taborgreat
    @taborgreat Před 9 měsíci

    good video. if you let your jaw relax (drop all biting force deep in your molars and cheeks) and use your jaw more while you talk (let it slide side to side and front to back loosely and with energy with each word), it'll really help with your pronunciation.

  • @abishekbaiju1705
    @abishekbaiju1705 Před měsícem +1

    Thanks a lot

  • @manmittiwade
    @manmittiwade Před 9 měsíci +1

    Please make tutorial on big project
    your portfolio website is amazing

  • @thedelanyo
    @thedelanyo Před 9 měsíci +1

    I guess they called this dividities. And the way first versions of reactjs was it feels natural to wrap everything with div

  • @marcowassink3803
    @marcowassink3803 Před 8 měsíci

    How do you get these code suggestions?

  • @_abuk
    @_abuk Před 9 měsíci

    Couldnt you also use display:contents?

  • @jaycodes8790
    @jaycodes8790 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Hey amazing content,
    Could you please make a video on "Modal based routing" in nextjs.
    How one can implement that on a large project. So that i can share a link of a modal directly.

    • @ByteGrad
      @ByteGrad  Před 9 měsíci

      Thanks. I actually have that on the todo-list haha, stay tuned

  • @404-not-found-service
    @404-not-found-service Před 2 měsíci +1

    woow Thanks

  • @maheshadusumilli7833
    @maheshadusumilli7833 Před 9 měsíci

    Hey Bytegrad.
    I tried searching your course in Udemy for CSS. But it is not appearing there while searching. Only with the link it is working. I am able to see only Javascript course. Can you help on how to find your CSS course from Udemy website?

  • @gwesa2921
    @gwesa2921 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Just a tip. Do not use index from an array method as the unique key identifier, it can cause problems when the list is dynamic, meaning that items can be deleted or added. Some of the problems are: Re-rendering, State preservation and animation problems. Better to use an ID, a slug or a hash.

  • @ahmednabil4456
    @ahmednabil4456 Před 10 dny +1

    thanks

  • @prashlovessamosa
    @prashlovessamosa Před 9 měsíci +1

    Hello brother when will you release react course on udemy still waiting already completed JS.

    • @ByteGrad
      @ByteGrad  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Soon. It won’t be released on Udemy. Make sure you’re on the email list :)

  • @kamrulislam3841
    @kamrulislam3841 Před 9 měsíci

    very impressive teaching but try to sound louder please

  • @okkaraung9512
    @okkaraung9512 Před 9 měsíci +1

    waiting for your React, Nodejs and MERN stack courses on Udemy. Big fan.

    • @ByteGrad
      @ByteGrad  Před 9 měsíci

      Thanks, make sure you’re on the email list :)

  • @harpo187bling
    @harpo187bling Před 9 měsíci +1

    Professional React & Next.js

    • @ByteGrad
      @ByteGrad  Před 9 měsíci

      I’m finishing up the details. Make sure you’re on the email list for early-bird pricing 😉

  • @eistache3182
    @eistache3182 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Ok I didn't know that React Fragments can have a key property, I wish I knew this 3 hours ago, literally.

  • @lel0uchfr199
    @lel0uchfr199 Před 9 měsíci

    7:00 for the Link tag you should use to="/" instead of href="/"

    • @jeetgangwar1614
      @jeetgangwar1614 Před 9 měsíci +1

      In the react-router-dom's component, the attribute to="/" is used. However, when using the component in Next.js, the attribute href="/" is used instead.

    • @lel0uchfr199
      @lel0uchfr199 Před 9 měsíci

      @@jeetgangwar1614 oh never thought about it, thanks for correcting me and understand something I didn’t knew < 3

  • @CottidaeSEA
    @CottidaeSEA Před 9 měsíci +1

    This is really not an isolated issue in React. It's everywhere in the frontend world. I've seen many cases where multiple nested divs have been used for simple styling, instead of just putting the classes on the first div.

    • @wchorski
      @wchorski Před 9 měsíci +1

      i'd assume a lot of that is coming from no/low code page builders or CSS frameworks that prioritize modularity over markdown simplicity.

    • @CottidaeSEA
      @CottidaeSEA Před 9 měsíci

      @@wchorski Partially, but a lot of it is just lack of thought, copy-paste, etc.

  • @jinx.love.you.
    @jinx.love.you. Před 3 měsíci +1

    And I am that Junior Developer...

  • @sujonpramanik1151
    @sujonpramanik1151 Před 9 měsíci +1

    It was awesome

  • @complikatd
    @complikatd Před 9 měsíci

    Your mic sounds grainy for some reason. It seems you're even using a Shure mic too.

  • @pomawewka
    @pomawewka Před 8 měsíci

    Subheding for SEO as always H tag

  • @jayakumar9976
    @jayakumar9976 Před 9 měsíci +1

    This great.

  • @ck-dl4to
    @ck-dl4to Před 9 měsíci +1

    section + div everywhere

  • @Tin9102
    @Tin9102 Před 9 měsíci

    according to React docs, you should avoid using index as a key tho.

  • @jerryalmeida
    @jerryalmeida Před 9 měsíci

    Stop using && in React Conditional Rendering, use the ternary operator instead

  • @abhishekkadam2999
    @abhishekkadam2999 Před 9 měsíci

    is division/subdivision for section, etc.
    I don't think it's just for styling.

    • @Burrijw
      @Burrijw Před 9 měsíci

      It serves no semantic purpose and is mostly ignored by screen readers and other assistive tech. The only purpose of a div is to contain other elements for styling, and in some cases, to represent a visual element that cannot otherwise be created with a more semantic element.

  • @Ogos-End
    @Ogos-End Před měsícem +1

    This video has good.. semantic meaning...

  • @shariqueansari9439
    @shariqueansari9439 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Awesome

  • @nabeelali6753
    @nabeelali6753 Před 9 měsíci

    All of these are just good-to-know. At work and in production, the hierarchy of importance is:
    1) Functionality
    2) Optimization
    3) Design
    4) "Best" practices aka nerdsht preferences such as these which are actually negligible

  • @tomfancode
    @tomfancode Před 9 měsíci

    Div is good😅
    Sometimes, over engineering

  • @maxterrain
    @maxterrain Před 8 měsíci

    Thank God I'm using Vue. It looks so complex, while vue is just html on steroids.

  • @MageLink
    @MageLink Před 9 měsíci

    I'm going to use many divs as I want

  • @user-ni9tf5yr6m
    @user-ni9tf5yr6m Před 9 měsíci

    = ?

  • @robertbutcher222
    @robertbutcher222 Před 9 měsíci

    About the button layout example, why do you even need a fragment? Couldn’t you just straight away map over the buttons inside the section?

    • @ByteGrad
      @ByteGrad  Před 9 měsíci

      Fragment is still necessary because there will be a span as well for the first one (always need to return 1 React node)

  • @adventureswithpasa
    @adventureswithpasa Před 9 měsíci

    Stop using section, article always use div.

  • @TheNarstonerz
    @TheNarstonerz Před 8 měsíci

    No !

  • @user-dh9rh3js3u
    @user-dh9rh3js3u Před 9 měsíci +1

    Are you a robot | alien ?

    • @ByteGrad
      @ByteGrad  Před 9 měsíci

      🤣

    • @user-dh9rh3js3u
      @user-dh9rh3js3u Před 9 měsíci

      @@ByteGrad Yes Sir, I really struggled to find out a single expression on your face. seems like you are just reading news like an anchor person

  • @francismori7
    @francismori7 Před 9 měsíci +1

    HTML cluttering is not an argument. The rendered code is for the browser, not for the developer.

    • @ByteGrad
      @ByteGrad  Před 9 měsíci

      We often want to inspect HTML in the inspector tool

  • @metaxx5253
    @metaxx5253 Před 9 měsíci

    Div or die

  • @Code_express
    @Code_express Před 9 měsíci +1

    speak slowly and speak loudly so we can understand what are you saying

  • @mac.ignacio
    @mac.ignacio Před 9 měsíci

    I say just stops using React and use other framework that has better DX.

  • @mikeonthebox
    @mikeonthebox Před 9 měsíci

    I love how React developers always blame this on "Junior" Developers. How about using a better framework that doesn't force you to return just 1 node leading to this "mistakes"
    And talking about mistakes, aren't you doing a mistake by using index as a key value? I believe React doesn't recommend that at all, and even mentions it can lead to weird behaviors.

  • @acegodas7852
    @acegodas7852 Před 9 měsíci

    i dont know are you just for real or just joking?

  • @OpenDeepLearning
    @OpenDeepLearning Před 9 měsíci

    You stopped just when your channel started booming. Why is that?

  • @flamme8587
    @flamme8587 Před 9 měsíci

    Excuse me but, why you didn't show the empty element that works perfectly fine to wrap elements in a empty body instead of React.Fragment " "

  • @MatthewKennedyUK
    @MatthewKennedyUK Před 9 měsíci

    Better idea… stop using react.

  • @yogeshkadu5453
    @yogeshkadu5453 Před 9 měsíci +1

  • @randerins
    @randerins Před 9 měsíci +1

    k, I'll start using instead