Super Mario Sunshine is... Weird (And I Love It)
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- čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
- In this video, I explore my relationship with one of the more contentious Mario games, and how I've come to love everything about it - including how strange it tends to be.
Chapters
0:00 Intro
2:56 The Goodness
20:39 The Weirdness
47:13 The Rushed...ness
58:40 Conclusion
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A massive thank you to tcrf.net, mariopartylegacy.com and mariowiki.com, which were fantastic resources in creating this video.
Sources
Shigeru Miyamoto Interview on Super Mario Sunshine - Published by Nintendo in 2002 www.gamecubicle.com/interview...
Koizumi: Super Mario Sunshine would have been a disaster recovery mission-style game nintendoeverything.com/ninten...
Super Mario Sunshine Development Staff Interview www.nintendo.co.jp/nom/0208/s...
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This was the generation of tropical islands for Nintendo. Wind Waker, Mario Sunshine, Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire, and the Metroid Prime beach OVA.
Excuse me, Metroid Prime beach OVA? I've never heard of this.
@@willpoweramv same
The console was codenamed dolphin, a sea animals
Pikmin 1 & 2 as well
My man, are *trying* to get people to run face first into rule 34?
I have a favorite bad memory of this game. I was doing the 100 coins mission in Bianco hills and reached 99. I found 1 last paint plant enemy, and sprayed him into a wall to kill him and get that last coin. Except that instead of properly dying and letting me end things, he just stuck to the wall pulsating and playing his death sound over and over. Taunting me. Refusing to die or despawn no matter how far away I roam. Laughing through his eternal torment stuck between the boundaries of life and death as Mario wandered around forever spraying random trees and windmills just trying to find that last coin.
beautiful sir, its like poetry
Oh yeah that's happened to me before, I'm glad I'm not the only one
This is honestly hilarious. I love it
This sounds like the end of a horror book
🤣 Poor guy. Hope you eventually got it but that had to be terrible.
A childhood classic, full of pain and suffering.
Haha, this game came out my first year of college. I still have great memories of it but from a very different vantage point.
:cue the GameGrumps clip of Arin screaming at the Pachinko level:
@@leeartlee915 Haha same, I grabbed this at my local EB Games during freshman orientation week, and me and my roomies spent the following weeks trying to 100% the game, it wasn't easy!
One of my very first video game memories as a child (and one of my first run-ins with glitches) came from exploring Bianco Hills and goofing around the big waterwheel between the village and the lake. One of the waterwheel's blades suddenly pushed me underground into a blue abyss far below the level and killed me. I was terrified of that waterwheel for years afterwards. Ah... good times, good times.
@@CrowTRobot Arin: “Don’t tell me that s-t is for real! That is BULL S-T!”
Dan: “Barry keep this in”
lol
Fun fact: Pinna Park was originally intended to be part of the hub world. It has a cannon on the beach with unused functionality to return you to Delfino Plaza, it has portals to Pianta Village and Noki Bay in the files (the Pianta Village one is located on the mouth of the big Pianta head), and Mario's animation for returning from a level portal is present in the files like in the plaza. This also explains the level's greater significance to the story, with the Mecha Bowser event occurring there and a Pinna Park mission being required to unlock Yoshi.
No one asked bruh
@@kalin1786 I asked
I am also glad to know this.
@@kalin1786
I'm no one.
@@kalin1786 I'd suggest getting a personality
Sunshine’s tropical environment is one of the most calming and visually appealing maps ive ever seen to this day
Until you get to the first Secret level. Lol.
The sky boxes in the secret areas were visually Mario like though.
@@RangerMcFriendlyI mean lol ur right. But do u like bagels…we only win, but one way in this life.
Agreed. I want a modern sequel.
Absolutely agreed. I LOVE the atmosphere of Mario Sunshine.
I was absolutely not let down by the thorough breakdown of the Mario universe's judicial system. Thank you Liam.
20 hours ago 😧
My mind was just fucked so hard by the timestamp on this comment
Truly Isle Delfino is an allegory for dystopias
It’s funny because until now, I never really thought about it lmao. Liam is totally right though!
To be fair, for the "What, no jury?" point, Japanese legal systems don't have juries. At least, they didn't. I think _very_ recently they might've started using them. But for basically ever, the judge was the sole person who decided everything in a trial. Hence why most of the Ace Attorney games (except the one that takes place in Britain) don't have juries.
I once heard a reviewer say they theorize Nintendo was so impressed with how good they could make water look on the Gamecube that they made an entire game around it😁it's nothing short of incredible how the water still holds up from a 2002 game.
Yeah it sure is beautiful water and I always thought it was really cool how you could spray water and see Mario’s reflection in it
Other parts have impressive reflections as seen in later titles like MGS3, such as the pond in the first level.
Some people: “Sunshine is a wash.”
Liam Triforce: “lol get hosed”
The jank and imperfections that we rarely see in a Mario game are part of why I kind of love this game.
It’s like Sonic 06 levels of jankyness.
@@traviscunningham7062 no? Not even close
@FlyMario91(Hogwarts Legacy Hype) As an 06 enjoyer, no, not even remotely.
@@traviscunningham7062 absolutely not wtf
@@traviscunningham7062 you’re just full of bad takes aren’t you? 😂
One thing that I can praise Mario Sunshine for in hindsight is its willingness to just...be different. The theming, as you say, is really on point. It's tropical island themed. Pretty much every Mario game since has emulated Mario 64's approach of throwing every environment imaginable at the plumber, and while that's cool...Mario Sunshine's levels stand out. Everything feels purposeful and varied within the theme so that every area fits together nicely. There's no other Mario game since that has tried to feel like that, and that brings with it a nice level of worldbuilding and lore that makes Isle Delfino so awesome.
This is also true of the gameplay. No game after this gave Mario something that altered his entire moveset like FLUDD did. Like yeah they had power ups and other gimmicks but FLUDD is so consistent and the new moves it gives you are always part of the level design and always a consideration in how you approach problems. It, again, makes this game unique among the "safer" variations on 3D Mario that would come after.
Also as an aside, I really wish there were more missions about cleaning up goop because you're right...that's so satisfying. To be able to visibly make that progress, feel like you're helping...it's really really nice.
For me it probably also had the additional draw of feeling familiar. I'm (partly) from the south of Italy and while the place is hardly tropical, places like the white stone tiled Delfino Plaza, the rocky cove of Nooki Bay and Ricco Harbor feel familiar. Like a cooler, more fantastic version of a place from your childhood that actually IS like how your little child mind pictured it.
Thisss, I honestly love how the devs gave themselves the limitation of the levels having to be connected to each other and have similar theming because it led to them finding more creative ways to make levels distinct from each other that aren't just "put some lava and make this a lava level, put some snow on this one and make it a snow level*
About your intro... Japan has a conviction rate of over 99% so Mario being guilty in the trial is fitting.
it ain't japan, it's isle delfino though
@@amacsizbirkisi the culture you live in influences the way you think about things, if all you're really familiar with is the japanese judicial system, then any judicial system you write is going to be using that as a foundation.
not that it isn't a silly little court scene in a mario game but still
I read somewhere that the high conviction rate is actually because of limited prosecution resources, so they only try slam-dunk cases. If that's true it's actually easier to get away with crimes in Japan.
@@orca042 they also don't do as many crimes, so
@@kingcrimson4133 Never downplay court scenes in Mario.
One of my best memories as a kid was waking up on my birthday to open up a copy of Sunshine. I’ve never stopped loving the game any less since that day
This game and Luigi's Mansion were some of my first games ever.
I'm gonna rate them extremely high from that attachment.
The first game I solely had an idea to buy myself for. From picking it out from the shelf to walking to the register and making the transaction, by myself. Huge thing for a 6 yo.
Luigi’s mansion was just so 👌🏼🤯
Luigi's mansion was the first game I owned :)
Downloaded both games onto my phone last night! Going to be a fun day lol
same these were the two first games i have memories of playing. my mom has shown me pictures of me like 4 years old playing sunshine
Pro tip for the watermelon mission:
If you don't wanna deal with the cataquacks, you can lure them to a dune bud and permanently kill them by launching them in the air with the bud. It's a tad tricky, but you can even lure down the ones on the ledge.
I remember discovering this trick long after completing that watermelon mission lol!
You can also take the watermelon to the left path down to the water and along the edge of the beach, it's infinitely easier
That's what I did first. Completed it without one destroyed melon.
Wow! I'm gonna give you the succ, this is so HELPFUL!!! 🤙
another tip: once you get the watermelon to the bridge that leads to the juicer, you can use fludd to lightly push the watermelon, i feel its a lil more accurate & safe than mario’s sometimes sporadic movements
This is probably the best way to describe this game.
It's really frustrating, really confusing, but at the end of the day, it's still a good game.
It's not confusing per-say. I think it's all part of the quirk & charm of it. I still much prefer it to many of today's games, even Mario ones like Odyssey which seem 'too Perfect', too ''squeaky clean polished well designed''.
The supposed 'rough edges' make many missions feel 'natural' in how you to explore around & collect.
It’s not that confusing
@@netweed09 I have to disagree. Mario is kind of game that feels best when it's polished. Horror games like Silent Hill benefit from "rough edges".
I replay it like every two years, but I never find it frustrating. Maybe I'm just good at it, but I never 100% it. I just collect the shines in each level, then beat the game. It's a great time. All the people who find it frustrating are probably the same people who're trying to find every single blue coin and so on.
For those struggling on the Chuckster star, the angle they throw you is based on the angle you talk to them from, so line them up directly between you and the next platform. It's pretty easy once you know that!
Also grabbing that early 1-up in there is incredibly helpful.
There still is a bit of rng involved 😭
@@SquidSushi_ that's why you grab the one up every run lol
@@SquidSushi_ no? The behavior is entirely consistent, but people get it it their heads that it has something to do with the direction Mario is facing before talking, when it's really only drawing a line between Mario and the chuckster, and using that as the forward vector.
@@SquidSushi_ I LOST THE MISSION TO RNG!.
I'd never finished sunshine before, just until 3D All stars. Man, what a game it was. I would say this is the most relaxing Mario game and at the same time the most challenging one. Pretty unique with the inclusion of FLUD, they make you feel naked when they put you on those secret platforming levels. But I don't plan on collecting every blue coin, that's just insane
It's interesting how most of its flaws disappear if you're not going for the 100% - it's still not perfect, but there's a lot less to be frustrated about and it's mostly a relaxing experience with some added optional difficulty
When the ferris wheel in Pinna Park is spinning faster in Episode 5, it doesn't have any collision, so instead of having to climb through that jungle gym puzzle to get to that turtle thing, you can just hover to it straight through the wheel
This is what I did for years, not really knowing what the intended way was
I just did that yesterday thinking it’s how it was supposed to be completed. Lol.
I was so thankful to experience this gem in 3D All-Stars.
I love all the enigmatic nonsense they put in this game. You mentioned the book and that’s definitely a big one for me, but even some of the intentionally developed stuff is so weird. Like the weird footprint slab on the top of the lighthouse that only appears like one other time I think. Or when you have to spray a specific spot of the beach in the hub to make a shine sprite sticker appear, but only after you’ve completed some amount of the game. All the ruins in Noki bay are so deeply fascinating to me and I’m constantly trying to recreate the feeling of observing and exploring them. All these little things built up to this sense of wonder and curiosity, and it really felt like anything was possible. Sunshine had such a huge effect on what interests me in games now, and I do really love it for that.
Let's not forget the wacky stuff like spraying the sun to reveal a shine sprite, or the gold bird in Noki Bay. So many little oddities.
For the goopy inferno I used to swim along the river and do a sideflip from inside the river. This causes splashing and dripping water from Marios body, that can clean up the goop to create a path to the center. What a masterpiece ❤
I did this too! It took me forever to make that path, but it worked.
Yeah, I learned that one right from the FAQs
Literally my favorite mario game of all time. Love the music and atmosphere of the game
the movement in this game has always been really special to me. things like the side flip and spin jump are just so fun to use and very handy
Yeah I love how you can do the spin move and also spray water at the same time
Oh my god I never realized that the first 4 worlds of Sunshine all shared the same melody with their themes nice detail
This game will always hold a special place in my heart. The day I got it, my mom and siblings went out of town so my dad and I went to town, picked this up, got a pizza and played this all weekend. I'll forever treasure that memory
That sounds like a good time to me!
I remember the manta ray shadow scaring the utter hell out of me as a little kid, to the point I never even completed that boss fight until I revisited the game in my teens. I remember thinking "Wow, how much stuff does this game have in it?" after getting over 100 shine sprites and still not seeing an ending back then.
Now your a furry with a suggestive character pfp, and a fan of Liam triforce, but nice to know of your childhood when you didn’t know about worse horrors of the internet no insult.
I was really scared of it too, but found that if I rushed to climb a palm tree, the mantas couldn't get me. From there, I did most of the fight completely safe, but towards the end, I had to descend to refill my water. Wasn't a lot left at that point, so I could handle it from there
My favorite 3D Mario! Happy more and more people are either coming out of the woodwork and saying "It's wonderful" or people discovering this gem from All-Stars or however.
The book behind the door in Noki Bay's bottle level was something that really captured my imagination when I was a kid too, well before I had ever even played the game. I remember it being Sunshine's version of L is Real, but not as big a phenomenon.
Sunshine is definitely the most... unique Mario game. Probably one of my favorites because of it.
Agreed
*the most unique main Mario game
@@paulgilbert5278 yeah, can’t forget the Mario rpgs. They’re even more insane than this somehow
I love this era of Nintendo (the first half of the Gamecube's life.) They were really going for creative, whacky, and unpredictable games. Pikmin, Luigi's Mansion, Wind Waker, Sunshine, etc. After this era was over the designs and styles of games became more homogenized. Nintendo makes great games still but rarely puts all their effort into a left-field type of project.
I really like the unique early 3D/CG artstyle that sunshine and the rest of the GameCube Mario games have
Something I want to let you know about incase you didn’t know, there’s a mod of SMS called Super Mario Sunburn! It streamlines the game to make the hub world interconnected with loading zones to go to every area at any point and also makes every blue coin accessible at any point in time! I played it last summer and I highly recommend it! It also includes a version that makes it so you need 70 stars minimum to go to Bowser just like 64.
I love that hack but tbh I'm not a huge fan of the open world nature of it, I wish it was possible to just have a hack with the blue coin fix and the final boss requirements.
I was a little surprised you didn’t mention the speedrun aspect of the game cause it definitely is one of the best speedrun games to spectate while also having relatively easy tricks you can use in your playthroughs (like being able to clip through the top grinder instead of pushing the watermelon all the way)
Yes but speedrunning is still a pretty Niche venture and one of those things developers generally prefer concealed in terms of constructing a game. Also since many involve a 'shortcut' that clips or soft-glitches through actual structures in the game.
yeah the movement in this game makes watching speedruns of it so good. I used to only watch sunshine speedruns for a bit
I wish there was an endless supply of your videos - your videos on GameCube games specifically somehow manage to capture the cosy vibes of the console
I am so impressed with the intro to this video, it's such a captivating showcase of the game so fast. It immediately hooked me in.
You are getting too good at this it's scary
This is my annual summer game too! Despite all of the game's flaws, the perfect blend of nostalgia, charm and heart warming atmosphere keeps me coming back, and will for years to come.
Another brilliant video Liam, hope you are well!
What flaws?
Just came back for my second or third rewatch of this video. Mario Sunshine is a game that I hold really near to my heart. It's my favorite Mario game of all time, and I have such fond memories of playing it as a kid. I can absolutely see its flaws now, but I still love replaying it. The different levels are just so immersive, cohesive, and fun. It's the best, love this video and it's cool to see people still talking about this game in 2023!
I was just binging Sunshine retrospectives, It's like you read my mind. I needed this right now.
*the market.
Nostalgia is a common investment. Your habits are more monitored and controlled than you would ever feel comfortable knowing
@@Kaleki935 he's a youtuber not a corporation lol.
@@Kaleki935 Mario Sunshine is a Masterpiece regardless. Yes, it's nostalgic in part only owing to its sheer videogame age nowadays but for me it's still miles better than Odyssey. Odyssey was Ok but too 'squeaky clean' and a bit of a mish mash with some disappointing stages. Sunshine had weird & wonderful quirks - and every stage was iconic rather than generic like Odyssey's 'water cove' level.
YAY!!!! This comes at a perfect time. Been on a SMS review binge lately, and finally my favorite game reviewer does a video.
I also enjoy the Sega Master System
I too also enjoy the Sega Master System
I also enjoy Super Mario Sunshine
The summer of going into 7th grade for me. This defined my summer. Love this game and it just reminds me of when I was a kid
I tend to find my favourite games aren't perfect so much as they're fascinating, and Sunshine is a great example. The cohesion of the setting and the many beautifully imagined places within it, the weird unpredictability giving the sense of there always being something to discover, the freedom of movement you're left to mess around with, and the unusual development history too - they all create a deep and fascinating relationship with this game. Thanks for an exploration of it made with passion!
Still one of my personal favs. Can’t wait to watch this!
Willing to bet money that everyone who claims Sunshine to be one of the favorites was a kid/teenager when it came out.
@@leeartlee915 not entirely true, I was six months old when the game initially came out but I still love this game(obvs of 3d all stars) despite it's flaws and imperfections
@@leeartlee915 Lol yep, and I was a slightly older kid by the time Galaxy came out and I didn't like it nearly as much. These days that's definitely a minority opinion. It wasn't until Odyssey that I truly adored a 3D Mario game again so I guess I just prefer the sandbox style.
@@leeartlee915 Well a gamer's passion has to begin about somewhere doesn't it? Also, this guy loves Sunshine just as much as 64 - which is the same for me too. If Mario Odyssey came out back then, I'd not have liked it that much. It just lacks the sheer quirkiness and Magic of Sunshine. Isle Delfino is not directly modeled on any clear land (Hawaii is the obvious inspiration it's based off) but 'New Donk city' - seriously, lol!?
@@netweed09 Sure. I’m not even saying that as a bad thing. I’m just pointing out the typical correlation between what games/systems people prefer and their generation. It’s like those boomers who say music died after 1978.
Crazy that you play it every year. Glad I'm not the only one who found the beach vibes to be so relaxing and enjoyable
I love how I discover this immediately as I finished your giant Mario 64 retrospective
This is my favorite Mario game and you're one of my favorite CZcamsrs. So excited to watch/listen
I'm so stoked you made this! I've actually just started playing Mario Sunshine for the first time and was really dumbfounded when I saw the premise of the game! Anyways, still discovering it and trying to master this difficult game. Thank you
I can't express how much I love this video. I also can't express how much I love Super Mario Sunshine - I have the exact same complex feelings about its sus voice acting, difficulty spikes, bizarre blue coin locations (even though at this point, I've played the game enough times to have memorized all of them), some ridiculously jank levels, and more. It's a weird game; it's a weird experience. Yet I love it anyway. Being one of the first video games I ever owned, it was such a massive part of my childhood, and I've played through it multiple times even as an adult. It's also my favorite speedrunning community to follow, by far. Honestly, I thought I knew EVERYTHING there was to know about this game, but this video taught me SO much more.
As a fun fact, some people made a ROM hack of the game called "Super Mario Sunburn" that addresses a lot of the problems I (and many others) have with the base game, including the level-specific blue coins, the game booting you out of each level after you collect the 100-coin shine, and even adding a few new platforming challenges (that I am not skilled enough to complete yet lol). I just think it's cool that people saw enough potential in this game, almost two decades after its release, to try to make it emulate the game Nintendo probably wanted it to be without those unfortunate time constraints.
I just started replaying Sunshine again recently after getting obsessed with its quirks and inconsistencies.
Glad I stumbled upon this channel! Subscribed!! 🥰
Throughout this entire video I kept thinking how much the game would benefit from a proper remaster with easy changes that would significantly improve the experience. Here's a few I can think of :
-Some kind of hint system for blue coins you don't have
-Changed requirements for beating the game like said in the video
-Maybe add a feature to skip to the next episode of a world
-Some tweaks here and there to the more bs stuff
Also this was a great video it made me understand why Sunshine and Odyssey are my two favorites more.
You have the most soothing voice during commentary - it keeps me engaged throughout the entire video!
Been looking forward to this one! (grabs popcorn)
I really appreciate that you’re able to look past nostalgia enough to criticize games you love, which is something I think a lot of people struggle with.
Wow the nostalgia blast, this ost just unlocked so many memories! Reminds me to finish this game and try to enjoy it fully as much as you did. Never been able to 100% it, not even beat the final boss as i got stuck somewhere as a kid. I think it was in the hotel level where you gotta clean all the goo under a certain time.
Love your videos bro. It feels like I’m having a convo with a good buddy about games we used to play back in the day
With all the vibrant, tropical island theming and sun iconography, this is definitely the most aesthetic mario game of all time 🏝🌞
actually showed some oddities that I did not know about! And here I thought I knew everything about my favourite game. For that I'll share a little oddity / oversight with you. In the cutscene of the gang landing on the airstrip, Peach's earrings are replaced with her eyeballs in certain frames near the "what's this icky paint-like goop" line. Great video!
dear God...her eyeballs?? I just looked up the video, how did I never notice that?!
I'm always so happy when you upload! You have a way with words, giving critic and bringing back nostalgia
My first full playthrough of this game was with the Sunburn mod, which changes the final boss requirement to just requiring any 70 shines of your choice, along with making blue coins appear in all missions of an area. This version of the game was wonderful. So many amazing levels and missions, and if I wanted to skip any of them I could go hunt down some blue coins to make up the difference! I had a blast with it and despite zero childhood nostalgia for Sunshine as I didn’t own it as a kid, it might be my favorite Mario game. (With the Sunburn mod installed of course, though I’m gonna play it vanilla one of these days!)
I'm glad you talked about afro-cuban musical influences in this game. What people may not realize is that this style of music is a tradition that goes back to the main theme of first game. There's a video on CZcams about it and worth checking out
I'm glad that someone can see how great this game is even with its flaws.
I really wanna see another Mario game take a crack a large central hub world like sunshine. Galaxy 1 kind of did it with the observatory, but not really. Bowsers Fury feels like the closest to what my dream Mario game would be so far. I'd love to see the concept of the seamless world open world from Bowsers Fury combined with a unequivocal HUB world like Sunshine. *Fingers Crossed
@@chrisblair9272 I would definitely be down for that.
I first watched this video right when it came out, and I'm watching it again now. I gotta say, it is genuinely the best, most balanced video analysis that I've seen anyone make on this game - and I've seen a lot of them. You've found the perfect balance between holding this game accountable for its questionable design choices while recognizing how they were an inevitable byproduct of such a unique, beautiful, and special thing that, unfortunately, wasn't given the time it needed to shine as much as it could've. I love this game, and you perfectly captured why. Great job.
I absolutely love your essays man, you really help me. Thanks!!!
Thank you Liam, for allowing my deeply subdued PTSD... that's Post Traumatic Sunshine Disorder... to bubble back up to the surface and rear its ugly head after watching this video lol.
Super Mario Sunshine is one of the best games on the GameCube.
I remember playing this game way back in the day, good times.
Top 5 for sure Metroid prime is the best for me
I know this is not the most popular Mario game ever, but it is my favorite. It was my first and actually only Gamecube hame for a while, because it was bundled with my system, I loved my time with it, and it is one of the few games I have 100% as I have never been a completionist. This game is also a testament of how Gamecube games made by Nintendo where different, this game still holds up tremendously to this day, both graphically and gameplay wise. So I guess this very and nostalgic speech is to say, great video.
Most overhated 3D Mario, I absolutely stand by it as one of the best most ambitious Mario games
This is my favorite game of all time, it never gets old
I love how you talk about your childhood games. I'm waiting for the video on Mario Galaxy, because that was my first 3D Mario game and it's still my favorite to this day (with Odyssey being close behind).
It's definitely summer where I live, you're off the hook :D
Thank you for the wonderfully in depth and positive analysis as always, Liam!
(also, I hope this means that Galaxy will be next-ish, which I'm extremely excited about because it's one of my favourite games of all time!)
3:58 YES! a judge decided, as EVERY civilized country in the world! What do you expect? To call a random group of people that knows nothing about the law?
I played this game for the first time 2 years ago. It's definitely not your nostalgia. Although you're way better off play the sunburn mod
I've been on a binge of replaying my favorite childhood games like this and Majora's Mask while watching your videos, and they've made me want to meet Koizumi someday so I can personally thank him for his involvement with basicslly everything I love.
I gotta say I really appreciate and respect the time and effort you put into these retrospectives. Also, you and I have some of the same favorite games of all time. I grew up with friends who were exclusively Xbox or PlayStation owners so I always felt like a loner with my love for Nintendo fandom, so these videos really hit my nostalgia hard. Thanks Liam, you rule.
I’ve greatly enjoyed the retrospective pieces you make and found and began to seek out your essay’s based on the connection I found in our deeply profound love and inquisitive perspectives on the Zelda Series. This deep dive into Sunshine not only hit hard but also reinforced my belief that I not only can; but will choose to seek your perspective on mediums as a whole as you branch out from Zelda. Stay you and I believe that phenomenal works such as this will continue to come.
As a kid, I played all the Mario games up until Galaxy. Sunshine was by far my favorite. In my mid-20s now and recently played all the Mario games after getting a Switch, and Sunshine still stands tall as my favorite. It's such a beautiful, creative, and unique game.Sunshine is the only 3D Mario game that really feels like you're in a real world where other characters have independent personalities and lives that matter. The graphics aged really well and look even better on the Switch. I didn't know this was considered a contentious game until recently and I still don't understand why it is. It's not as hard as it's made it out to be (I'd argue 64 is harder due to the camera issues). People complain about certain levels being weird, but that's just Mario -- 64 has you transporting to alternate worlds and Odyssey bring Mario's hat to life. The only complaints I have are that I wish they'd kept the long jump and crouch-backflip. Overall, I think a lot of people wanted something different and looked at this based on those expectations instead of appreciating it as its own thing.
Thank you for these incredible looks at the games of my childhood, the games that have captivated me all these years. You articulate the mountain of emotions these games have filled me with for my entire life. Liam Triforce is the goat.
This is the only 3d Mario Ive yet to play, I never had a gc frowing up or this but this video makes me super excited to experience it! This was an awesome video, Liam.
Amazing work Liam! I love this game to death and this video already makes me wanna replay it for the 100th time.
I’ve always wanted nintendo to give this game the wind waker HD Treatment,remake it from the ground up ,add all the cut content like the Cut levels in the game ,fix the jankeness in some levels,add a better blue coin counter (where you can see what episode you need for blue coins),and add a little more content overall,I love this game (was my first 3D Mario game I played) hopefully one day they will actually do this
Goodness your videos are some of the best of the best. Seriously. So much effort and heart. It’s so great to know their is at least one person out there who understands how video games are an important art medium. I can’t wait til you make a video about Super Mario Odyssey. I loved that game so damn much. I didn’t know what would be next after the Galaxy games. But I was pleasantly surprised. I loved the tropical beach level. It was such a nice callback to Sunshine.
love a channel that when made a thumbnail actually links to the artist in the description! thank you!
Your video essays are satisfying and make me excited to be revisiting my favorite 2000s games. Never been a a true “Mario” fan, but specifically a sunshine fan. something about GameCube that can’t be replicated
I love these long videos
Keep it up, I am learning so much:)
My sister and I did a combined mixture of, easy shrine sprites, and the most tedious ones. We both have extremally found memories of this game! We acted like we worked at the hotel, we took multiple watermelons and claimed one of the huts and called it our "beach home." The combination of vibrant colors, and weirdness made for an excellent, and challenging game. Thanks for the video man!
This game has my favorite movement tech out of any Mario game and that's why I love it. It's so fun to run around the plaza chaining random bits of movement together.
My third-favorite Mario game after 64 and Odyssey, and a childhood classic to me. Very well-made video, Liam. Shine on! :)
Love these long videos from you. Even if they do probably take a long time to make.
Summertime here, perfect time for this video, thanks Liam.
Lordy Lord, this one's been a long time coming! Can't wait :)
I've been waiting for a super Mario sunshine retrospective. This is one of my favourites
Not gonna lie going into this video I didn't think you could get an interesting hour of things to say outta this game but you kinda nailed it. Liked the overall tone of this video, very loose and you made some funny points. Keep it up I'm gonna watch your next couple videos for sure.
Great look back upon my favourite Mario platformer. Looking foreward to you're examination of the fantastic Galaxy games
The Pursuit needledrop was amazing. Another great video Liam!
Looking forward to watching this one. One of my all time favourites.
I'm doing my first ever playthrough of Sunshine using 3D Allstars right now so this is the most convenient and exciting surprise I could possibly get! I'm seriously enjoying the game so much and it's all from my curiosity to explore all nooks of each level, I spend over an hour in a single episode just to talk to all the piantas or npcs just to see their storylines throughout the course's episodes. I really love how connected and "living" Isle Delfino is, especially since I grew up and still live in a tropical paradise area so it feels like a home away from home. There's no denying that I got frustrated during some points in the game but nothing that's genuinely spoiled my experience so far. I'm trying my best to play the main storyline blind so I can't wait to watch this once I'm done with it!
Great video - I only played Sunshine for the first time when it rereleased for 3D All Stars, and I fell in love with it. I’d heard mixed reviews, and my feelings on it were mixed, but it was still a joy to play at the end of the day.
First of all, amazing video! I loved all the input you gave, and it's cool to see the perspective of someone who actually likes collecting blue coins. I never realized how well the blue coins play into the game's level design.
The level design of this game is downright phenomenal. Every single location feels like a real, lived in place. Yet at the same time, they act as engaging playgrounds to run around in. I think about Ricco Harbor, and how it ACTUALLY feels like a harbor, but also is super fun to jump and run around in.
It makes me sad that Odyssey took a bit of a different route with its areas. Don't get me wrong, they're still great. But the lived-in aspect isn't as strong as with the locales of Isle Delfino. You've got floating islands with unnatural borders. Most platforming areas are completely separate from the village portions of the kingdoms. And there's a lack of unique moons based on random objectives.
I appreciate how the game only boots you back to the Odyssey during important moments, but I miss the state of the Kingdom changing. NPC designs are fantastic, but ongoing storylines and fun dialogue is few and far between.
I think what I would've done is have more landmarks spread across the Kingdoms, with a handful of NPCs that you can find outside of the village, just living their daily lives, or making random fun comments. I'd give every Kingdom natural borders, and have unique quests you can activate that are completely unrelated to what Bowser did to each kingdom. We do have a few of those for each kingdom, but they aren't as grand in scope, or as engaging imo.
Despite all this negativity I just spouted, I love Odyssey for what it is, and I'm super excited for how they can improve upon its ideas in the future.
Meanwhile, Odyssey handled blue coins better, lol.
I think just simply having a list of Blue coins available in each mission as well as having Talkatoo, would fix the blue coin problem in sunshine.
Each Blue coin could have a name hinting at its location. Maybe you'd have to pay him, like you have to do with Hint Toad in Odyssey. Part of the fun would be figuring out what the hint means, and how to find it.
It's funny how the problems I have with Odyssey were stuff Sunshine excelled at. And the problems I have with Sunshine were basically perfected in Odyssey.
I just recently found out about you from vinny's weird baby game lmao, but I binged all your videos, they are all fantastic, really emotional and proper retrospectives, and I finished just in time for this video, thanks Liam, your content is great
Wow! This was actually, like, a good analysis and review of a game i was fortunate to grow up with.
I don't know why, but Liam's videos absolutely just hit right at 3AM and I always make sure to set aside that general time to watch them when they come out.
fantastic video. just waiting for the galaxy video. Can't wait to see what you say about it
Thank you so much Liam Triforce I had supermario sunshine as a kid in 2005 on the gamecube and I never was able to unlock corona mountain due to me being young and dumb ... I eventually sold all of my stuff and when I was 16 in 2016 I rebought the gamecube and super mario sunshine with it..... I replayed some of it and stopped due to life happening and never found the time to complete my childhood dream of finishing the game... I was watching this video realizing that I had the time to finish this game after finishing your video... So I loaded my game up and there it was back from 2016 19 stars gained all I had to do was beat the game.... I played this for the last 2 days non stop and finally beat it, completing my childhood dreams because of you and the inspiration this video brought me once again thank you so much Liam Triforce