Buddy Rich - Ya Gotta Try, Koln (Cologne) Germany 1980
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- From a concert we did in Koln, Germany in 1980
Saxes L-R: Steve Marcus, Jack Leibowitz, Andy Fusco, Ken Hitchcock, Bob Mintzer
Tbns: Glenn Franke, Roger Homefield, Pete Beltran
Tpts: Mike Plumleigh, Bob Coassin, Simo Salminen, Bob Doll
Bass: Wayne Pedziwiatr
Piano: Ernie Van Trease - Hudba
To think that this took place half an hour away from me while I was playing Lego is astonishing from a meta-perspective. I wasn't ready 😅
R.I.P. Ernest Van Trease, we were in Ray Charles’ band together, he was a great musician and a great guy
Thanks for your comment. I lost track of Ernie and didn't know that he had passed in 2022. Very sorry to hear. RIP Ernie.
Wow Mintzer is a beast. Great band, GF makes it look easy!
Holy s*** that's fast... even for Buddy! Amazing! ❤️❗
What a tight tune, all around! Buddy was the best!
Saw them playing this at the Montreux Jazz Festival in 1978. Steve Marcus on tenor.
Amazing that you remember that! It was a great concert & a beautiful place to play. A few of us in the band went water skiing on lake Geneva the day of the show. What a great experience!
Top shelf, the band is burning
INCREDIBLE - Buddy!!
The G.O.A.T !!!!
I saw Buddy on the Tonight Show a few times. I loved watching him as a kid learning to play. So I buy my first Buddy Album called Buddy Rich Plays and Plays and Plays…This was the first song on the album and it blew my mind. It’s been my favorite Buddy song ever since.
I was fortunate enough to see him play live only once. I sat about 25 feet from him. Couldn’t keep my eyes off him. He had the flu with a 103 temp. He was grumpy and caustic but played his ass off. The only thing he did differently was play less solos and leaned toward cymbal and rim solos when he did. 😂 They were still amazing.
BR, the GOAT. Period.
Man that cat could swing.
A true band leader.
Dear Glenn, thanks for uploading this. I actually saw this particular concert. The fast stuff of course is amazing, but what really blew me away was one particular ballad (I forget which tune). The way Buddy controlled the band with just one ride cymbal... the timing...amazing. As a drummer myself I learned so much that night. The other thing I remember to this day was the absolute certainty with how he would end a fill. Sometimes even good drummers loose the timing a little bit when they start a fill. This man would stay on track as solid as an AMTRAK train :-) ... (Tony Williams had this magic too). Should you have more footage of this night I'm sure many people would appreciate another upload. Thanks and best wishes from Munich
Amazing that you were there! It would have been really cool to have met you! Here's the entire set czcams.com/video/efnh3cFTtto/video.html
That's it!!! @@glennsin1 perfect!! thank you for even picking the right spot of the concert 🙂 Who is Corey G.? Was he in the band too? Thank you for sharing all this. Best wishes from Munich, Axel
That sounds like a heavy ass ride!
This is a fine job by a great band. These guys were on.
I've had this concert's video for several years now, and to me, the best part is the brief interaction Buddy had with the guy in the audience. "Go Buddy!", to which Buddy simply said "Alright". What follows certainly shows that request being answered! :)
I only got to see Buddy live 6 times. The first time, pops and I sat stage right. I was mesmerized watching his right foot and left hand. Other drummers would play the same charts, i.e. One O'clock jump, it never sounded the same. It took years for me to figure out that the left hand was putting in fills that no one else did. Also, other drummers looked as they labored. Buddy looked like he wasn't doing much, but he was. This arrangement was played at 2x the speed from the Quincy Jones and Sammy Nestico Basie and Beyond disc. Wow.
“Only” six times? Count yourself blessed and fortunate. Some of us never had the opportunity.
@@Happilee97 Yes. I consider myself fortunate. He was amazing.
I always felt his left hand was like his secret weapon. It was so relaxed and fast. Band here is top shelf.
I only saw him only 28 times, what good times
After 50 years of playing the drums, I still don't understand how Buddy played time. Seeing Vinnie play this arrangement on the Buddy Rich Memorial is amazing and he comes close, but I can understand what he does. I sure as hell can't play it, but I get it. This is just something else...
Buddy was The Man...still is, I like this set more every time I watch! Cheers,.
BIG BAND IS SO HECTIC AND FRANTIC SOUNDING
MAKES YOU NERVOUS, ALL THOSE HORNS PLAYING SHOUT CHORUSES, AIR RAID ALARMS
YIKES
Wow, Buddy sounds so good!! And so cool to see Bob Mintzer on baritone!
drum genius
That’s some trotting bass 🔥
Buddy is at his best at these super-fast, big band swing tunes. I mean he was ALWAYS at his best, but DAYAM - this speed here and his ability to push the tempo is unbelievable, Just outstanding as always.
Nobody can play quick tempo songs as effortlessly as Buddy does. His left hand defies imagination. It is constantly comping when kicking the band.
After 50 years of playing the drums, I still don't understand how Buddy played time. Seeing Vinnie play this arrangement on the Buddy Rich Memorial is amazing and he comes close, but I can understand what he does. I sure as hell can't play it, but I get it. This is just something else...
@@musopaul5407 I have seen so many Buddy videos of this song but just came here from the Vinnie version. Buddy is known for his solos but he could kick a band. Even when he was busy every hit he made fit musically. He is around 63 in this video. He had such great hand/wrist/finger technique he seemed to never tire. Thomas Lang amazes me with what he can do but Buddy on a smaller kit playing with a Big Band was a freak of nature.
Love this Sammy Nestico chart. Thank you!
“Clams!” - B. Rich
One of my fave charts. Those guys smoked it.
You know these guys were the best of the best. Wow. Imagine even the thought of dropping a note in that band.
Stellar.
This bassist is "Technical Death Metal" player... Such a nice band. Pianist great. Buddy Rich and your orchestra it's in fire.
Bob Mintzer on bari -- wow!
Yeah! Noticed that too!❤
From early 76- late 77 I traveled and watched him every night, literally thousands of concerts...he always played to a certain level but there were days where he played with such power and finesse...this concert is a prime example of that 5 or 6 year period...I consider this time the best he ever played in his life. He was extraordinary.
wow, thousands of gigs....may I ask why you heard him play that often? Did you work for him?
Mathematically implausible.
Yeah even if he played every single night for 2 years it would only be 730 concerts. And I doubt it was every night
His Greatest Sax section of all time. Hats off to Ken Hitchcock ... wished he had more solos but with such a heavyweight section you take what you can get I guess.
Bone section is super tight. Wowza.
Thanks for that compliment, Abel!
He's got a big old swish back there that Thunders..!!
It's been years since I realized his "weak" hand plays the same notes as his right hand and a full bunch more, but this thing never ceases to amaze me, each and every single time I see him perform. And not just that... his dynamics between close notes, both at fast tempos and slower tempos (I'm thinking at "Basically Blues" right now), are something unheard of in my book. Man the guy had biiiiiiiiiig pockets, the biggest of them all!!!!!!
Smoking 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Nice bass playing, and the rest of the band, as usual , is great. They have to be, or Buddy would fire them, lol.
Weird Al killing it on bass.
He is slow motion next to the great Carl Palmer😮
I love Carl Palmer, but really?
@@mwalker3547 just the facts just the facts watch some video of Carl back in the seventies and then watch some of rich Carl is like Buddy Rich on steroids
CLAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Köln. The ö is missed
There's no way to add that Umlaut, with my keyboard. Maybe who posted this had the same problem... but we all know it's not Koln.
Thanks so much for sharing!
Is Buddy using nylon tips, that ride is really cutting through?!
He’s using Ludwig 14A all wood
@@glennsin1 Thank you. I don't recall ever hearing Buddy's ride so pronounced! Perhaps it was the recording or editing.
@@glennsin1 What ride is that? Do you know? Really cuts, especially for a wood tip.
Buddy was absolutely the best. I am a rock drummer, and the snare work Mr. Rich did with his left hand was superhuman.
Who’s in the trumpet section
I listed all the players in the description!
I love Buddy, but the Rich fanatics drive me nuts after a while. Some of them don’t seem to notice that there’s also a great band at work here. Part of that may be Buddy’s ego-he never had many hot soloists other than Steve Marcus. But his bands always crushed tough charts.
THE BUS TAPES
More: czcams.com/video/yC8In8kIIDE/video.html
I wish the tenors were allowed to stretch out a little more.
Better not play any clams or Buddy will take you outside and show you what it's like.
This isnt ya gotta try
A little sloppy on that last chorus ..the bass player looked late... And it looked like buddy threw him a stern look....
Wayne did just fine... he was my roomate (RIP) & told me what happened. Buddy looked over and saw Wayne's huge grin and shook his head. They laughed about it later when Wayne told him he was grinning because Buddy's break blew him away.
The bass player "looked late"? Try using your ears, smarty 🤨
How many shows have YOU played?
Once again.THIS IS NOT YA GOTTA TRY
www.jwpepper.com/Ya-Gotta-Try/4121778.item
Audio sucks on this
Yeah, sorry... the sound is better on Norbert's clip of the whole set.
Who’s the other tenor sax soloist besides Marcus?
Ken Hitchcock. We roomed together for a bit. He passed away suddenly just a few years ago.
www.local802afm.org/allegro/articles/ken-hitchcock/
He was a complete A$$ to his band and orchestra. Very rude and condescending. I use to like him but when you see those videos and audio………….. nobody deserves to be talked to like that
Hi Dusty, you wouldn't know because you were not there. He was always nice to me and all the guys I was on with. Yes, he would get pissed if the band wasn't up to his standards, but those tapes never should have leaked. I had left the band before those tapes were recorded, but it's obvious that he was being taunted disrespectfully. If I was still managing the band at that time I would have just had those players replaced so he wouldn't have had to deal with that. It makes me very sad when people who don't even know him assume that this is how he spoke to us all the time. Again, he was good to me and we had some great times together... he took us to see the world, play great music at a very high level, perform with people like Dizzy, Getz, Sammy, Sarah, Sweets, etc etc, and got paid for it. At the time we didn't know how good we had it. Me and all the guys that are still alive from my era reminisce about it all the time... if it were possible we'd go back there in a heartbeat and never leave.
Love when Buddy played with Sweets Edison!
@@timothycarter9208 Because of Buddy Rich, I got to play with so many great jazz artists that I otherwise wouldn't have. So what if we needed a kick in the ass from time to time. We were too young to understand what an opportunity it was and why we were required to play at such an extremely high level, night after night, no matter how many hours we were on a bus or a plane that same day!
Nice to see Weird Al Yankovic on the bass.
All technique no soul. White bread and mayo with an over inflated ego. He's no Elvin Jones or Art Blakey.
Funny you should mention Elvin & Blakey. Whenever we played the big jazz festivals in Europe they would come backstage after our set and pay their respects to Buddy. They admired him tremendously. Here's a quote from Blakey when he said that his stated goal was to be a great drummer: “But,” he told writer Chip Stern in a 1984 Modern Drummer cover story, “just in the sense of having musicians want to play with me-not to be better than Buddy Rich..." Heres a pic of Elvin visiting Buddy in his dressing room even before I was on the band.... ethaniversondotcom.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/12a9e-6a01348156fe55970c01b8d0dcb3b3970c-pi.jpg The other great thing about those festivals is that cats like Dizzy, Getz, Sweets, etc, loved to come by and sit in with Buddy & the band just for fun. Whenever Jo Jones came by Buddy would humbly let him sit in, which was always quite an experience for me sitting right next to him on stage. Buddy also let Grady Tate sit in once.
@@JeffHogue-u.s.a. Hi Jeff, I occasionally hear comments like that from someone who doesn't understand that this is not how we speak about other musicians. No pro would ever say something like that about another musician, and it's just not relevant, important, nor helpful to anyone in this forum. I only replied to indicate that there's much he doesn't understand even about the drummers he prefers. If you listen & don't like it, move on and don't be a drag.
@@JeffHogue-u.s.a. Thanks so much for the compliment! I consider myself to be lucky & extremely fortunate to have been on the band and to be in these videos. I have some amazing memories, and would give anything to be able to go back there & experience it all over again.