Plotinus On The Soul's Journey To God

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  • A look at the Neoplatonist philosopher Plotinus doctrine on the soul, its place in the cosmos and the path it can follow to ascend to God.
    Main books referenced in this video:
    Enneads- Plotinus
    Plotinus, or, The simplicity of vision - Pierre Hadot
    The philosophy of Plotinus - William Ralph Inge
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  • @KeithWoods
    @KeithWoods  Pƙed 2 lety +24

    Thanks to everyone who supports this channel: www.buymeacoffee.com/keithwoods
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    • @purplehaze1274
      @purplehaze1274 Pƙed 2 lety

      You should do a video on Spengler or the German Conservative Revolution in general.

    • @danieljohnston6881
      @danieljohnston6881 Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci

      I Plotinus have reincarnated, the one is good!

  • @Lolm3ist3r
    @Lolm3ist3r Pƙed 2 lety +82

    I absolutely love the delving into the more mystical side of thinking that you've been doing lately, it compliments and supports your criticism of the rampant materialism in modernity that has been a near constant theme in your videos. Thank you for making these videos.

    • @TheLastOutlaw289
      @TheLastOutlaw289 Pƙed rokem +2

      Materialist thinking they can comprehend a universe which is far older than their own existence

    • @cosmicnomad8575
      @cosmicnomad8575 Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci

      This is all quite helpful for me because as someone who recently reverted to Catholicism I have been trying to purge my materialist way of thinking. And there’s a lot of things I agree on with Plotinus, though not everything, but it’s still good to examine

  • @marylamb1407
    @marylamb1407 Pƙed 2 lety +9

    "being in the zone", it a great feeling...you're totally focused... you feel totally alive.

  • @Creativityzealot
    @Creativityzealot Pƙed 2 lety +34

    I may not agree with you on everything Keith but you're more levelheaded then most in this movement.

  • @MartyMcK
    @MartyMcK Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci +4

    Has anyone else ever sighed to the self “I just want to go home” while sitting in your house?

  • @Floral_Green
    @Floral_Green Pƙed 2 lety +22

    It’s great to see such a rich philosophical and theological tradition being touched upon. Gods bless.

  • @SkimmerLover
    @SkimmerLover Pƙed rokem +5

    Sit quietly in darkness whenever possible.

  • @WilfStepto
    @WilfStepto Pƙed 2 lety +5

    It's always nice hearing someone use "sensible" in its older meaning.

  • @pedrozaragoza2253
    @pedrozaragoza2253 Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci +1

    Thank you!
    Beyond excellent summary.

  • @FaustianFeels
    @FaustianFeels Pƙed 2 lety +33

    Fantastic video Keith, I’ve been really invested in classical philosophy and metaphysics since you recommended “thinking being” in one of your CZcams shorts a little while back. It’s great to see more expansion on Plato and his successors. it’s imperative as a movement that we affirm a comprehensive and organic perspective on reality that imbibes truth. Ignore these stupid reactionaries in the comments that don’t have the brain power to comprehend anything beyond complaining about demographic issues or making banal political statements. Our political position is only valid by the simple fact that it is true, and we must provide justification, so these philosophical inquiries are the only things that grants validity to our cause, so really appreciate your work and inspiring people to become more knowledgeable, and being able to impact the world in a positive way through purposeful action, changed my life! đŸ‘đŸ»

    • @towardstar
      @towardstar Pƙed 2 lety

      I always felt the shortcoming of german idealism was its over emphasis on the lower impulses(struggle/strife)

    • @solaris6070
      @solaris6070 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      @@towardstar I would have thought that this was an advantage, any philosophy that recognises realities. But I'm not sure that I would define struggles/strife as an 'impulse'.

    • @towardstar
      @towardstar Pƙed 2 lety

      @@solaris6070 Were more than animals we have instincts that aren't just animal impulses. If you focus entirely on those you end up with something like social darwinism which justifies all sorts of tragic things. Like why don't we deserve whats happening to us now? By that logic we do deserve it or maybe if the tables turned the big dumb devil system can work for us, and we can have our turn to make everybody else miserable. I don't think anyone should want that especially not if they value stability.

    • @towardstar
      @towardstar Pƙed 2 lety

      We're part of the whole and would find a way to end up harming ourselves if we went about it like that anyway.

    • @NatCo-Supremacist
      @NatCo-Supremacist Pƙed rokem

      @@towardstar There are parts of the whole that don't reoccur on every scale of fractal reality.

  • @josephang9927
    @josephang9927 Pƙed 2 lety +12

    I like how neoplatonism can be a common ground for many Christians and Pagans. Plato's philosophy is so widespread everywhere!

    • @australiafair5926
      @australiafair5926 Pƙed 2 lety +5

      Yeah this is something I've realised from delving into Plato & co. There exists, and is expansive fertile ground for, a pagan revival that isn't just a silly larp. I still think people should take Jesus seriously, but a sincere monotheistic paganism can lead them to a serious consideration of who Jesus was / is anyway. People who larp at polytheistic paganism devoid of metaphysics, by contrast, seem to want the accoutrements of religion but find actual religious truths to be too inconvenient (and are especially allergic to Jesus as an embodiment of those inconvenient truths).

    • @McAulay99
      @McAulay99 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@australiafair5926 Because Jesus is not God.

    • @australiafair5926
      @australiafair5926 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@McAulay99 The complaints are usually ethical, not theological. Theological objections are understandable. Most of these polytheist "pagans" are just morally bankrupt atheists.

    • @hunivan7672
      @hunivan7672 Pƙed 2 lety +8

      @@McAulay99 Jesus is God, and he is Lord of all the Earth and Heaven.

    • @glaucon7337
      @glaucon7337 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@australiafair5926 there is no "expansive fertile ground". Strapping metaphysics on larpers will give you larp with metaphysics and nothing more.

  • @dariusghodsi2570
    @dariusghodsi2570 Pƙed rokem +5

    Plotinus went with Gordian III expedition to invade Persia for an Alexandrian quest. . He of course got turned right the fuck around, Sasanian dynasty is no joke. Ironically, it would later be the Sasanians under Khosrow Anushirvan that would adopt and house Plotinus school after it was closed down by Justinian.

    • @theresemallory2425
      @theresemallory2425 Pƙed 23 dny

      Thank you for this valuable information. I didn't know the role of Persia in saving the neo-Platonic school of Plotinus under Khosrow Anushirvan . No doubt this was one factor accounting for the Renaissance in the Iranian and Arab world, while Europe was plunged into a Dark Age for hundreds of years.. I will research this and share it with my friends who are interested in intellectual history.

  • @thetraditionalist
    @thetraditionalist Pƙed 2 lety +4

    very complicated and new to me but I enjoy this channel because it's the only one I watch that delves into philosophy

  • @rammingspeed4941
    @rammingspeed4941 Pƙed 2 lety +5

    Keith you are 6"4 therefore you are our leader!.....lead us!..

  • @Chounubis
    @Chounubis Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +2

    3:55 - It is fascinating how Voegelin so perfectly embodies Plotinus's emphasis on remaining in between two particular poles of existence ("The Metaxy") as opposed to the unhealthy and all too common accentuation of the soul and body (Gnosticism) or vice versa (Stoicism or Epicureanism). Of course, being a well versed Platonist who also liked Aristotle, it isn't hard to see why that is.

  • @sunnyboy4553
    @sunnyboy4553 Pƙed rokem +2

    This is so beautiful and trye. I love Plotinus. Bought the Enneads, but haven't started reading it yet.

  • @gnardawgyt
    @gnardawgyt Pƙed 2 lety +3

    It's been too long since I've watched one of your videos. I forget how much I get out of them. Thank you

  • @MunsKi
    @MunsKi Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci +1

    the setian sage, plotinus teacher is also call saki muni buddha, meaning setian sage

  • @universome511
    @universome511 Pƙed 2 lety +16

    How it feels to be Julius Evola

  • @edwardowen8029
    @edwardowen8029 Pƙed 2 lety +5

    Keith! Have you considered speaking with either Jonathan Pageau or Prof. John Vervaeke? It'd be great to see where such conversations went.

  • @aryofristas
    @aryofristas Pƙed 2 lety +17

    Great video! Only criticism as that you said CE instead of AD.

  • @tonguemybumb
    @tonguemybumb Pƙed 2 lety +12

    i knew you would do a vid on platonism eventually.

  • @LymanBear
    @LymanBear Pƙed 2 lety +4

    We love you and all that you do keith . Thankyou

  • @josepheridu3322
    @josepheridu3322 Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci +1

    16:00 For anyone who keeps his life for himself shall lose it; and anyone who loses his life for me shall find it again.
    Matthew 16:25

  • @thebeltingbalaclava4798
    @thebeltingbalaclava4798 Pƙed 2 lety +10

    Great video. I would love to see you cover Guillaume Faye and archeofuturism at some point. I think you'd be well suited to do it and it might help some people break out of the knee-jerk reactionary mindset and look to a positive vision for the future.

    • @wyattwilbourne530
      @wyattwilbourne530 Pƙed 2 lety

      I've been meaning to read that book. Is he more positive than reactionary?

  • @ceruleandusk
    @ceruleandusk Pƙed rokem +2

    Plotinus figured it all out, holy God.

  • @wyattwilbourne530
    @wyattwilbourne530 Pƙed 2 lety +88

    I've always wanted to get into Plato/Neoplatonism, but it seems to be too high iq for me most times. I'm happy you made this video

    • @che71che
      @che71che Pƙed 2 lety +11

      Aye! with philosophy you need a high mind to understand IT without IT having to be broken down for the lesser minded (like myself) to get IT, which is why I'm thankful to Keith for simplifying IT and putting 'IT' in layman's terms for me to understand,
      Maybe piƛƛing about at school wasn't the best idea I'd ever had

    • @comtedebuffon9690
      @comtedebuffon9690 Pƙed 2 lety +33

      It is not. Most people speak very complicated just to get attention and sound profound. I can literally explain platonism in 5 minutes then you can almost understand or relate anything you read. Find someone who doesnt have much ego.

    • @wyattwilbourne530
      @wyattwilbourne530 Pƙed 2 lety +7

      @@comtedebuffon9690 that's kinda what i always assumed. Everyone wants to fluff things up to make it fancy. Do you recommend any youtubers or anything that could help explain it in much simpler terms?

    • @Rttlwomen
      @Rttlwomen Pƙed 2 lety

      czcams.com/channels/10oqMKjGhP8KuRpLuBMSVw.html
      He has a reading group that goes through Plato's dialogues

    • @ZackEdwards1234
      @ZackEdwards1234 Pƙed 2 lety +17

      Ancient and mideval philosophy is actually much easier to grasp than modern philosophers like Hegel or Heidegger.

  • @thomasboyd1478
    @thomasboyd1478 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Excellent video. Brilliant content. Appreciate your awssome work Keith Woods. Based.

  • @Self-Duality
    @Self-Duality Pƙed 2 lety +19

    You’re a great philosopher, Keith - continue with the fervor and stealth of a tiger! Your work is rebounding beyond your expectations


  • @Thatsit36
    @Thatsit36 Pƙed 2 lety +17

    Great video, loving this kind of content too and seeing a glimpse into your spiritual side.

  • @hermanhale9258
    @hermanhale9258 Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci

    Dualistic world is the best. I'm only halfway through, and already learned more from this than any other philosophy video I can remember. Good job.

  • @stormthecat7395
    @stormthecat7395 Pƙed 2 lety +16

    hi frens

  • @themetamystic
    @themetamystic Pƙed rokem

    Thank you.
    - Missy

  • @viktoryinthecircus
    @viktoryinthecircus Pƙed 2 lety +3

    One of your best.
    Aside; you choice of visuals/art for this was excellent

  • @danielarciniegas550
    @danielarciniegas550 Pƙed 2 lety +15

    Love the videos on metaphysics

  • @hussienmohammed2914
    @hussienmohammed2914 Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci

    for some, it is an ultimate honour to be born as man, while it is an ultimate humility for others to be born as man. the first will only be able to descend to become some animal, and the latter will only be able to ascend and return to innocence.

  • @zarlei6048
    @zarlei6048 Pƙed 2 lety +4

    >Islamo-Duginism: long line
    >Big Brain: empty

  • @The06201980
    @The06201980 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Great stuff mate!

  • @towardstar
    @towardstar Pƙed 2 lety +3

    based and Atlantis pilled

  • @Marcus007
    @Marcus007 Pƙed 2 lety +5

    Wait, so Neo isn't The One?

  • @nickark4807
    @nickark4807 Pƙed rokem

    I can never get over his similar this stuff is to Hegel

  • @cookingpots123
    @cookingpots123 Pƙed 2 lety +8

    Beautiful work, Keith.

  • @venikody
    @venikody Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci

    From india. The one is called brahman in vedic philosophy. Consciousness.

  • @spritualelitist665
    @spritualelitist665 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    In some ways the Neo Platonic vision can be seen in philosophy strongly all the way to someone like Deleuze in a more naturalist conception. Spinoza even.

  • @1964_AMU
    @1964_AMU Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci

    Unity is the being !! Did he talk about the Monads ??

  • @vladimirkraynyk
    @vladimirkraynyk Pƙed 2 lety +2

    3 hour vid pls LFGGGG

  • @MrMikkyn
    @MrMikkyn Pƙed 2 lety +6

    Attaining the highest good is my eternal goal. Even in death, it is more important than anything for me. To be conscious of the immanence and transcendence of the divine at all times, to access the spiritual whilst living in the material, and to ascend through anagogic transcendence. I’ve always been wanting to synthesise my understanding and internal resonance with the Bhagavad Gita, Visishtaadvaita Vedanta, Patanjali Yoga Sutras with the philosophy of Neoplatonism. I read an introductory text called Plotinus: An Introduction to the Enneads by Dominic J’Omeara, and this video works really well for me as an additional resource to enhance my current knowledge on Plotinus and Neoplatonism.

    • @glaucon7337
      @glaucon7337 Pƙed 2 lety

      Neoplatonism and Hinduism come from very different sources. There is no basis for uniting them in practice.

    • @xiuhcoatl4830
      @xiuhcoatl4830 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@glaucon7337 There is

    • @glaucon7337
      @glaucon7337 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@xiuhcoatl4830 on what basis?

    • @xiuhcoatl4830
      @xiuhcoatl4830 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@glaucon7337 Vedanta.

    • @glaucon7337
      @glaucon7337 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      @@xiuhcoatl4830 how is that a common ground if they are not the same thing? lmao. "The common ground between neoplatonism and vedanta is vedanta". Great pagan thinking.

  • @Christoth2012
    @Christoth2012 Pƙed 2 lety +13

    Absolutely wonderful, Plato/Platonism is the way forward for the West!

    • @lordmozart3087
      @lordmozart3087 Pƙed 2 lety

      Why?

    • @Christoth2012
      @Christoth2012 Pƙed 2 lety +5

      @@lordmozart3087 Because by returning to the One/Being/the Good, we return the stability that is laking in both in the individual and society (returning to Being from Becoming). If you are seriously interested i would recommend that you watch PhilosophiCat's CZcams series of Julius Evola's "Revolt Against the Modern World" for an in-depth exploration of this issue.

    • @GhGh-gq8oo
      @GhGh-gq8oo Pƙed 2 lety

      Lol Ragnar redbeard is the only way whites will win.

    • @NatCo-Supremacist
      @NatCo-Supremacist Pƙed rokem

      No, it's National Socialism, you are a fool

  • @TheGloves13
    @TheGloves13 Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci

    Great video thank you!!

  • @simibignall5688
    @simibignall5688 Pƙed rokem

    Great video. One request I have is that you please put the source reference of the quote in the video, below the quote. Thanks.

  • @MartyMcK
    @MartyMcK Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci

    Great video Keith. 👏👏👏

  • @fhialsdhkt43tg72
    @fhialsdhkt43tg72 Pƙed rokem

    Amazing one! Platonism is fascinating.

  • @pierren___
    @pierren___ Pƙed 2 lety +8

    I was just reading about Pagan Monotheism and this is just at the right time.

    • @NatCo-Supremacist
      @NatCo-Supremacist Pƙed rokem

      pagan monotheism isn't real

    • @pierren___
      @pierren___ Pƙed rokem

      @@NatCo-Supremacist so is god

    • @NatCo-Supremacist
      @NatCo-Supremacist Pƙed rokem

      @@pierren___ yehweh? sure
      abrahamic monotheism is nasty trash
      European Gods are as real as the Sun, Sea, and Moon, though.

    • @pierren___
      @pierren___ Pƙed rokem

      @@NatCo-Supremacist those are not gods

    • @NatCo-Supremacist
      @NatCo-Supremacist Pƙed rokem

      @@pierren___ Yes they are, you can deny them all you want, it won't change any facts about reality.
      Imagine signaling about caring about "pagan monotheism" when you straight up deny the existence of the Gods, you really are just a protestant with extra steps, hijacking pagan ideas to sounds more based and legit.

  • @JohnLambLashNemeta
    @JohnLambLashNemeta Pƙed 2 lety +2

    It would be valuable to have a bullet list tabulation of the primary ancient sources of the motif of the planetary spheres, as well as a list of secondary sources and commentaries. It would include sources outside the Platonic and Neoplatonic legacy. The channelled testimony of Magdalen/Miriam in Pistis Sophia (non-NHC) would be one, perhaps, but otherwise the Nag Hammadi materials do not present much in the way of evidence on that topic. Correct me if I am wrong and cite the passages.
    G.R.S Mead would be one secondary source, especially in his treatment of the Orphic Mysteries in Fragments from A faith Forgotten and Thrice Greatest Hermes. But Mead is inconsistently reliable and exhibits a range of theosophic and even christian biases. As far as I can tell, the surviving source material and ancient commentary on this motif of the journey through the planetary spheres shows up in Orphic texts. It presents a visionary model that might be compared to an armillary sphere: a spherical banded construct consisting of a framework of rings centered either on the Earth or the Sun, representing lines of celestial longitude and latitude, the meridian, the ecliptic, etc. Distinguished from a celestial globe which is a sphere covered with illustrations of the constellations.
    As such, the Orphic visionary narrative would be perhaps the earliest known version of the "prison planet" or archontic matrix of the Demiurge. The official party-line followed by scholars of Gnosticism -- and unfortunately accepted and parroted by those who bring sincere interest to the subject of the Mysteries but fail to apply critical scrutiny to what the experts tell them about it -- routinely attribute the black pill connotations of "matter/matrix" and "divine spark trapped in matter" to the Gnostics who founded and led the Mystery Schools. It has been proven that this is a false allegation not supported by a complete, correct, and coherent view of the Gnostic creation narrative with its central figure, the wisdom goddess Sophia.

  • @bannerman3553
    @bannerman3553 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    D
    Funny that survive the jive just did a big discussion on this too recently... must be in the air

  • @Dogue83
    @Dogue83 Pƙed 2 lety +4

    I love the Platonic take on Art, its disdain for artists is really intriguing

    • @towardstar
      @towardstar Pƙed 2 lety +2

      he only said that because he didn't trust just anyone could say things about the gods that would be taught to people

    • @Dogue83
      @Dogue83 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@towardstar Wasn't it because he thought the Artists were fools for wasting their time illustrating the most base level of existence?
      The so called "Shadow" of an object's true essence.

    • @towardstar
      @towardstar Pƙed 2 lety

      @@Dogue83 Poets like Hesiod and Homer told stories that depicted the gods as petty, vindictive, etc. Since the divine is by definition perfect Plato thought poets who told stories like this are guilty of lieing, and that other apparently subversive stories should only be allowed to be read by people who understand them as allegories for deeper truths.

    • @xiuhcoatl4830
      @xiuhcoatl4830 Pƙed 2 lety

      He doesn't disdain art, just considers it a cheap imitation of the real world, and that the real beauty will never ever be able to be replicated by any artist.

    • @towardstar
      @towardstar Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@xiuhcoatl4830 He doesn't believe that it will never happen, he just sees it as extremely unlikely unless the person has been properly initiated and striving towards the good

  • @Eudaimonios
    @Eudaimonios Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci

    Which are practises leading to it, based on your experience? On my journey Osho's Dynamic Meditation and Vipassana were GAME CHANGING.

    • @dalirkosimov4623
      @dalirkosimov4623 Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci

      From my experience, sri nisargadatta maharaj has wisdom on this exact topic. Have a look at his videos or, if you have the means, read his book, "I am that".
      Assalamualaikum

  • @thetraditionalist
    @thetraditionalist Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Please visit The Traditionalist, it would mean a lot!

  • @hermanhale9258
    @hermanhale9258 Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci

    7:35 Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz: There's no place like home, there's no place like home.

  • @TheAmbasador99
    @TheAmbasador99 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Wtf I thought it was going to be an history on funk music with that thumbnail, oh well, I am still intrigued

  • @RealAugustusAutumn
    @RealAugustusAutumn Pƙed 2 lety +9

    No way you said "CE" instead of "AD". Not Keet Woods.....

    • @KeithWoods
      @KeithWoods  Pƙed 2 lety +26

      Yeah that was cringe my bad

    • @GhGh-gq8oo
      @GhGh-gq8oo Pƙed 2 lety

      Christianity is gay

    • @xiuhcoatl4830
      @xiuhcoatl4830 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Platonism is a pagan philosophy, it makes sense

    • @RealAugustusAutumn
      @RealAugustusAutumn Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@xiuhcoatl4830 Christ rules all

    • @xiuhcoatl4830
      @xiuhcoatl4830 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@RealAugustusAutumn "Christ" died and never returned, hardly rules over anything

  • @thomasboyd2518
    @thomasboyd2518 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Ireland forever.

  • @00fgytduydrtu
    @00fgytduydrtu Pƙed 2 lety +2

    Old thumbnail was better.

  • @bmc8871
    @bmc8871 Pƙed 2 lety +9

    I've heard that the Renaissance was essentially the re-introduction of neo-platonism into the West. It seems like there is a lot of similarities between the thought of Plotinus and Christianity. Curious where they depart or what is irreconcilable.

    • @KeithWoods
      @KeithWoods  Pƙed 2 lety +24

      Well if you read Thinking Being which we covered on the book club, he basically argues that Thomas Aquinas metaphysics is almost identical to Plotinus'. So Catholicism definitely integrated a lot of the metaphysical insights.

    • @bmc8871
      @bmc8871 Pƙed 2 lety +2

      @@KeithWoods I'll check it out. Thanks.

    • @RealAugustusAutumn
      @RealAugustusAutumn Pƙed 2 lety +6

      @@bmc8871 I'll disagree here with Keith and say that Aquinas' metaphysics aren't as close to Plotinus as that book suggests. There are similarities between the two like there are similarities between all religions, but that is because the truth is objective, regardless of what name you put to it.
      Pico della Mirnadola was responsible for introducing Neoplatonism to the West. He was a Humanist and Christian Kabbalist who basically set the foundation for the metaphysical rejection of the One True Church by the Protestants.

    • @Jimmylad.
      @Jimmylad. Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@RealAugustusAutumn it seems your not a fan of the Renaissance could you elaborate how exactly the Renaissance lead to the Protestant reformation and why that was a bad thing?

    • @pierren___
      @pierren___ Pƙed 2 lety +3

      Renaissance peans rebirth in english, rebirth of antiquity and paganism

  • @VenusLover17
    @VenusLover17 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci

    ❀❀

  • @MonlopoMAN
    @MonlopoMAN Pƙed 2 lety

    You are a good orator

  • @thomasboyd2518
    @thomasboyd2518 Pƙed 2 lety

    Art is to handsome yes. That the attributes to his attraction.

  • @shadowgoddess4600
    @shadowgoddess4600 Pƙed 2 lety +6

    WOW I had no idea Vedanta existed in Greece! This man Plotinus was truly a sage. Listening to those quotes is like listening to a Guru. 🙏

    • @Christoth2012
      @Christoth2012 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Advaita Vedanta and Platonism is so similar it's astonishing, beside the Monism you should look into the Platonic idea of the Tripartite Soul, it is basically the same as the three gunas.

    • @glaucon7337
      @glaucon7337 Pƙed 2 lety

      It's not Vedanta or anything similar. Westerners have been invaded by Hindus and made to think everything is oriental.

    • @Christoth2012
      @Christoth2012 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@glaucon7337 there was a lot of philosophical information flowing back and forth from Greece and India via Egypt back in the day.

    • @glaucon7337
      @glaucon7337 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@Christoth2012 so what? That doesn't mean everything comes from a single place. Westerners bow to orientals and I don't know why.

    • @shadowgoddess4600
      @shadowgoddess4600 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@glaucon7337 If its nothing like Vedanta why does it sound exactly like Vedanta? LOL. We don't believe that everything comes from the "Orient" we believe everything comes from the Pure Soul which we call Atma. Every living being has an Atma which is why anyone can have the realization. Doesn't matter where they are from, because the Body is just the outer covering, or Veiling, if you will.

  • @kornelszecsi6512
    @kornelszecsi6512 Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci

    Unfortunately, the soul is fully descendant, we need theurgy.

  • @keithhawthorne5630
    @keithhawthorne5630 Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci

    Reminds me of hesychasm.

  • @SomethingImpromptu
    @SomethingImpromptu Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci

    I’m not sure it’s correct to say that the One is “equal to the form of the Good.” I’m not sure whether Plato said that or not (it’s been a long time since I read his Republic & I haven’t read everything he wrote), though I’ve definitely read academics who suggested that that was perhaps not his intention- so I won’t argue that, though I think it’d be worth very careful analysis of exactly what he said
 But setting aside what he did or didn’t say on the matter, just thinking about this logically:
    The One is a transcendent, boundless source & ground of all being, much like the equivalent concepts in many other nondualistic mystical traditions; Para Brahman in Advaita Vedanta, The Absolute in Hermeticism, Ein Sof in Kabbalah, & so on. This kind of transcendent aspect of God/Spirit/Divinity/Brahman/the All/whatever you want to call it is, by definition, transcendent not only of space & time & other physical boundaries- it’s transcendent of all boundaries, all distinctions, all information, all apparent opposites/polarities
 It’s transcendent of the ideal forms as well as materiality. It is the fully nondual, eternal ground of being/source of everything which pre-exists & transcends every identifiable principle & quality- any quality or form or concept we could describe/label would be a constraint on it, while it itself is beyond all “self”/“other” distinctions.
    The Good, on the other hand, important as it obviously is to Plato, is a form, & specifically, it’s part of a polarity. The Good is the opposite of the Bad, or whatever you want to call it (Evil, the absence of the Good- I’m not trying to get hung up on jargon- what matters are the concepts & their relationships). They may be ideal forms, & therefore eternal & unchanging, but these are still polar, superficially dualistic-looking opposites, defined in contrast to one another. These are exactly the kinds of superficial “apparent dualities” or polarities (sets of polar opposites & the spectra implied in between them) that the One transcends. And, not only would the potential for both the Good AND its opposite have to be prefigured within the One, but also, so would every other Platonic form, every other polarity which we observe in manifest in the world & the ideals that those instances are instantiations of. The One is the source of EVERYTHING else, in its boundless infinitude, so Good/Bad, Justice/Injustice, Past/Future, Parent/Child, Proton/Electron, Love/Hate, & so on
 The One is transcendent of all of these distinctions (within the One itself these polarities are not yet polarized- it’s all unified as one “undivided wholeness” to borrow David Bohm’s term- but since all these forms & all the facets/qualities of the world originate from it, the potential for them must be prefigured in that singularity). So the potential for Good is in there in some sense, but so is the potential for it’s opposite, & so is the potential for every other form/being/phenomenon, necessarily. Which would make it far from “equal to,” identical to, or interchangeable with the Good.
    You run into this kind of paradoxical thinking some in Advaita too
 I think, at least in this case, it stems from a conflict between the rigorous logical philosophical inquiry on the one hand, & the religious desire to elevate & express reverence for the divine on the other coming into conflict
 On the one hand, you also have the clear expression of the Absolute, Para Brahman, as being a nondual, transcendent unity/singularity beyond all distinction, all apparent opposites
 But then you also have the ultimate reality being described as “Satcitananda,” roughly meaning “truth, awareness [or consciousness], bliss
” Which I think is quite similar in sentiment- it’s associating the ultimate metaphysical reality/the most fundamental aspect of God with the highest benevolence/good that they can. And I absolutely understand where this impulse comes from, because I do also get the feeling that God/Spirit/Brahman/whatever you want to call it, is a benevolent & wondrous being deserving of the highest reverence, love, & celebration
 However, from a nondualistic, panentheistic philosophical perspective it does raise questions/creates a problem. Because if, outside of immanent, manifest forms, God’s transcendent aspect is nondual, a unity containing all possible polarities within its infinite potential
 Bliss is a pole within a polarity (opposite to Misery or Agony or something like that). Truth is a pole within a polarity (opposite Falsehood). Even Consciousness/Awareness is a pole within a polarity (opposite its absence, Unconsciousness/Unawareness). So how can the ultimate reality be nondual, all-transcendent (as well as immanent within all), containing all possible polarities/opposites within itself
 But also be identified with particular positive poles of specific polarities, whether that’s “Truth, Awareness, Bliss” in Satcitananda, or the Good?
    All I can conclude is that the really rationally/logically rigorous position is the one consistent with nondualism, dialectical logic, & panentheism, which is that God/Brahman contains all these polarities & all other polarities within itself, positive & negative aspects, even if in some respect, in manifestation, it is weighted towards the positive
 Whereas the rest may not be intended as literal proclamations of ontological truth, but more as I said, as reverent statements in celebration of the Divine
 Again, in my experience I do conclude that God/Brahman seems benevolent, seems far more loving than hateful; I tend to think the positive forms & aspects of the world are the substantive ones, whereas the negatives are mostly just the “shadow” cast in their absence, & that the existence of negative aspects is merely the cost of doing business- you couldn’t have a glorious world like this one without both positive & negative potentials/forms, as nondual polarity is the whole basis upon which this cosmos is structured & exists- plus, the evils I see in the world are largely just consequences of human beings who are under the influence of ego pathologies engaging in unwise & regrettable exercises of free will [there’s no malice or selfishness or cruelty or ill intent out in the rest of the natural world, even where there are extremes [of temp, pressure, acidity/alkalinity, etc.] which could be hazardous to a human being
 So perhaps some of this accounts for how there could be a natural bias towards the positive potentials
 But I still don’t see a case for how the form of the Good, or any one pole (or any one whole polarity for that matter) could be equal to the One, something transcendent of all form & distinction.
    At any rate, I appreciate your content. I’ve been loving the Enneads so far.

  • @nononononononononononon1221
    @nononononononononononon1221 Pƙed 2 lety +2

    How do you feel about the connection that Buddhism has to the ancient Hellenistic settlements in Asia? There is a very real connection between Buddhism and Hellenistic thought, as many Greeks left in asia following Alexanders campaigns converted.

  • @hawaii5050
    @hawaii5050 Pƙed 2 měsĂ­ci

    no the plotinus's reality is integral not bases in aseity, as found in the abrahamic traditions.

  • @cogitoergosum5414
    @cogitoergosum5414 Pƙed rokem

    Plotinus was egyptian not greek, he was born in modern day assiout before moving to Alexandria.

  • @sensational_cellar8606
    @sensational_cellar8606 Pƙed 2 lety

    I was so phucking drunk when I hears this but I agree wholeheartedly

  • @moesypittounikos
    @moesypittounikos Pƙed 2 lety

    Keith when are you going to interview Bernardo Kastrup?

  • @sniper6668
    @sniper6668 Pƙed 2 lety +16

    Keith is on his way to being right-wing philosophy-tube.

  • @camorinbatchelder6514
    @camorinbatchelder6514 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    Evola cites Plotinus heavily in Revolt.

  • @nanncy7052
    @nanncy7052 Pƙed 29 dny

    Why the heads are covered of women ?

  • @otisjacksonjunior9795
    @otisjacksonjunior9795 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Bro what

  • @alejandromadrid8075
    @alejandromadrid8075 Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci

    "Plotinus did not consider philosophy as a purely especulative exercise but as a way of living and ultimately transformation..." yeah we know it was a religion and is misnamed as a philosophy to pretend that the philosophy we study today comes from ancient Greece as opposed to where it really comes from: a slow development in Christian Europe. You see what they hide in open sight?

    • @penggunasepertinyatidakdik4374
      @penggunasepertinyatidakdik4374 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci

      you know how great thinkers are when somebody thought that their contemplation of reality is a religious studies

  • @northstar92
    @northstar92 Pƙed 2 lety

    3:54

  • @tangerinesarebetterthanora7060

    Plotimus is an inverred imsge of Nietzsche.

  • @bottomtext7700
    @bottomtext7700 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    If one associates the flow state (which is commonly attributed to athletes and musicians) with the mystical experience detailed in Neoplatonism, I fear they have not personally had the mystical experience in question. Flow state and the enlightened state of Plotinus and vedic teaching are not the same. Source: me. I can't provide any proof other than to say I've experienced both and they are vastly different. Of course, I could have misinterpreted your explaination. Great video nonetheless. Please keep making this type of content.

    • @australiafair5926
      @australiafair5926 Pƙed 2 lety

      They have to be related. In proper flow state you totally forget the ego, and the needs of the body lose most of their ability to intrude (e.g. when you exit the flow state you'll find you're starving hungry and busting to pee). Even other people are hard to let in. If you're in flow and someone speaks to you you can't really hear them even if you're looking at their face moving and hearing their noises.
      What is mystical experience like?

    • @bottomtext7700
      @bottomtext7700 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@australiafair5926 I do think they are related. I agree with your description of flow state. Flow also seems to dissolve the ordinary perception of passage of time, which is also a similar feature of the mystical experience. What's it like? Big ask my dude. Lol. I'll try to make it brief and not use corny hippy sounding tropes, but brevity means forgoing lots of nuance so try to grasp the over all gist of the words I choose instead of expecting a complete typography or something. (edit: I failed to keep it brief). The experience is revelatory and data rich. It's like your mind is sharing CPU processing resources with a much more powerful CPU, maybe you could say its like your soul using the One's cloud computing service. It's awareness and instant satisfying understanding of the nature of things and how things function. Complex systems become easily recognized patterns. It's a bit like being connected to a knowledge database you can query. It's a bit like trying to take a sip from the stream of an opened fire hydrant in some respects. But honestly, it's difficult to focus and be analytical in the moment because that part of your brain seems to have basically gone offline for the time being. And futhermore, it's also a blissful and euphoric experience... maybe sorta like a waking dream. And also everything is meaningful and rich with meaning. And also comforting in a deep and profound way. Idk if any of that helps. There's lots more I could say but it's sorta like all that. :)

    • @australiafair5926
      @australiafair5926 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@bottomtext7700 thank you for answering, friend

    • @bottomtext7700
      @bottomtext7700 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@australiafair5926 you're welcome. I appreciate being asked in good faith. It's the most profound experience of my life but opportunities where its appropriate to discuss are few and far between.

    • @australiafair5926
      @australiafair5926 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@bottomtext7700 Yeah, I can imagine. We live in a drab and disenchanted world. But every holy or inspired person was also just a person. You never know who has seen what.

  • @thomasboyd6842
    @thomasboyd6842 Pƙed 2 lety

    Is that Polish Adam fitness yes Thomas he in England Britain London.

  • @cullenhipskind1453
    @cullenhipskind1453 Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci

    Did bro really just say “205 CE” what the heck Keith I thought you were a Christian

  • @nigecheshire9854
    @nigecheshire9854 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    Pick up your swords and baskets

  • @catholicpog7183
    @catholicpog7183 Pƙed 2 lety +3

    I love your classy British accent bro

  • @tuberklops
    @tuberklops Pƙed 2 lety +3

    You and Jay Dyer should make a video.

    • @glaucon7337
      @glaucon7337 Pƙed 2 lety

      JD would destroy Keith.

    • @minu7615
      @minu7615 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@glaucon7337 Are you 13?

    • @glaucon7337
      @glaucon7337 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@minu7615 no, are you?

    • @xiuhcoatl4830
      @xiuhcoatl4830 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Jay Dyer is a little coward that runs and blocks people the moment he is proven wrong. His attempts of "debunking" paganism are so hillariously bad, constantly falling into the most basic of mythical literalisms in any take he gives

    • @glaucon7337
      @glaucon7337 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@xiuhcoatl4830 sure thing bro, I mean he isn't perfect, but I think he would easily refute Keith's Perennialist stance on spirituality and mysticism.

  • @thomasboyd6842
    @thomasboyd6842 Pƙed 2 lety

    You need Anglo Irish Thomas. Did care about me yes Thomas.

  • @thracian2072
    @thracian2072 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    I can't wrap my mind around metaphysics. Probably too dumb. Is The One finite or infinite?

    • @Floral_Green
      @Floral_Green Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Infinite and absolute. Beyond comprehension (hence why we interface with the Gods as opposed to hubristically trying to directly enter communion with the Monad).

    • @thracian2072
      @thracian2072 Pƙed 2 lety

      @@Floral_Green If it's infinite and absolute, why are there degrees of it mixing with matter in successive emanations? Is matter a part of the One, or a privation of it?

    • @xiuhcoatl4830
      @xiuhcoatl4830 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      @@thracian2072 of course it is. Thats why is the one, Its everything. The platonic division between theWorld of the Ideas and our World doesn't mean the One can't reach the material, if we consider that the Gods are the shapers of existence, they pretty much interact with the material.
      The ones who try to demonize mater are the gnostics

    • @NatCo-Supremacist
      @NatCo-Supremacist Pƙed rokem

      because it's all dumb, and you expect it to be intelligent
      take the third position, it's all bullshit

    • @thracian2072
      @thracian2072 Pƙed rokem +2

      @@NatCo-Supremacist I wouldn't be surprised if you're right.

  • @thomasboyd2518
    @thomasboyd2518 Pƙed 2 lety

    Are trying get Art Bezukavenko deport yes.

  • @dissatisfiedphilosophy
    @dissatisfiedphilosophy Pƙed 2 lety +3

    plotinus is a middle platonist technically but this wasnt a bad video. You should have gone into how the One for Plotinus and Neoplatonism is the identity of contradiction.

    • @KeithWoods
      @KeithWoods  Pƙed 2 lety +7

      Middle platonism is considered to be the period from the rejection of skepticism in the academy up to when Plotinus begins the period of neoplatonism so I don't think he counts as a middle platonist.

    • @dissatisfiedphilosophy
      @dissatisfiedphilosophy Pƙed 2 lety +2

      @@KeithWoods ehh what I have read has disagreed with that. The neoplatonists tend to have far more christian and mystic christian sects. but regardless, solid video.

    • @robculpepper6639
      @robculpepper6639 Pƙed rokem

      I agree with Keith. Virtually anything I've ever read holds Plotinus to be the founder of neoplatonism, but there is a minority opinion that it actually starts a century earlier with Numenious. Either way, saying that Plotinus is not a neoplatonist is a little like saying the pope is not a Catholic.

  • @divinegon4671
    @divinegon4671 Pƙed 2 lety +1

    The outro music is GHHHHEAAYYY

  • @thomasboyd2518
    @thomasboyd2518 Pƙed 2 lety

    You should seen Patrick lenart Austrian first you avoid this mess politically Thomas.

  • @thomasboyd2518
    @thomasboyd2518 Pƙed 2 lety

    Wil break up Wilberton no Thomas. Art runs him.

  • @solaris6070
    @solaris6070 Pƙed 2 lety

    Just a small quibble. But why use the dating 'CE' rather than 'AD' when talking about Plotinus birth date? The new dating format seems to me to be a conscious decision to drop BC and AD for secular ideological reasons.

    • @xiuhcoatl4830
      @xiuhcoatl4830 Pƙed 2 lety +1

      Because Plotinus was a pagan and didn't buy the abrahamic nonsense.

  • @thomasboyd6842
    @thomasboyd6842 Pƙed 2 lety

    You need a sleep Thomas it 7 day on the edge.

  • @yadayadayada6351
    @yadayadayada6351 Pƙed 2 lety

    Keith, why did you use the jewish "C.E." and not A.D.?

  • @Noble_Savage
    @Noble_Savage Pƙed 2 lety +3

    >CE