Rules to Know Before Playing Tournaments | Beginner Disc Golf Tips
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- Taking that step from casual play into tournaments can feel like an overwhelming move. With a host of rules that exist inside of our sport, with most casual players unaware, the room to mess up can happen often. I wanted to put together a video you could reference covering some of the most common rules folks overlook or mess up when stepping into a sanctioned round for the first time. Nobody likes being called out for "cheating" even if you aren't doing it intentionally. So what rules do you need to know?? You'll have to watch to find out!
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:38 Setting the Table
4:00 Marking Your Discs
6:31 Mini Markers
8:43 Circle 1 and Balance
10:15 Time for Throws
12:10 Lost Discs
16:16 Provisionals
18:55 Advancing Towards the Basket
19:40 Dangerous Lie
21:36 Final Thoughts - Sport
Watching this the hour before my first tournament lol, thanks for the rundown.
Disc golfing for a year, watching all sorts of coverage of pro tour events, and learned more in this one video than I have all year on other videos. Thank you Robbie.
I love how you can make boring subjects fun and enjoyable to watch.
I appreciate you bringing up the thorns as not being a "dangerous lie". Just an FYI, there is no specified distance (believe you said 5m). The rule is just to go straight back on the line of play "at the nearest point that provides relief". It's really up to the card to agree on what that first point is. It might be 1m back if it's an ant hill or 50m back if it's a power ranger battle.
I would highly recommend (especially for older phones in really cold weather) setting your phone on low power mode and keep it in a warm pocket so you don't lose power before the round is over. You don't want to get that 2 stroke penalty at the end of the round due to a dead battery.
I'm keeping it on paper. Too many courses I lose signal
@a.j.5108 can 2 players do phone and one do paper scorecard?
@@jamesbyington4764 yes
This is a great video. I’ve never played a tournament and this made we want to! Thanks dude!
Thanks for the casual spin through the rules, Robbie.
this is awesome. i had never heard of provisionals before now.
This is a great video. Hits on your objective of content for newer disc golfers, but is a good reminder for more experienced players.
I am playing my first tournament in 5 days so this video is perfect timing. Hopefully can keep a lot of this in mind this weekend :)
Great video! Thank you. The rules that I see most often broken: falling putts, moving obstacles (already covered), flipping discs (already covered), and when the timer starts for lost discs.
Killing it, Robbie! Basic stuff, but highly needed and highly useful In a tournament setting even if it’s just a C tier👍
Also fellow pig farmer here. My precious child is also a blue Ricky pig. I have one for the collection and five more waiting to be used down the road
The other free relief is from barbed wire also I believe where you get 2 meters. Great video. Thanks.
Thanks for this... I plan to play tournaments next year.
Good stuff Robbie.
Never knew that about provisionals. I have a B tier coming up here in NWGA thank you RobbieC 💪🏽
Man could’ve used this vid when I played in my 1st tournament in October. Shot a +7 with 3 double bogeys in round 1 but rebounded with a -9 in the 2nd. Finishing under par was the goal. Plus my card mates were great guys. Respect the grind man, way too cold here to do a round!
Diggin' the Vikings beanie!
SKOL
Great Video as always. This may be a little late for you to fight the cold, but a quality puffy vest over a hoodie with a glove (or mitten) on your off hand. Money! Throwing hand goes in the pocket of the down vest and you should be good to go.
the MMPR reference was spot on even to the vocal pitch change lol.
I’m playing my first sanctioned tourney in the second week of Feb and I recently wiped the stamps off all my discs and got really concerned they were not going to be legal bc I thought the whole “distinguish markings” was to identify as a legal disc not YOUR DISC. Super cool to know I won’t be missing anything out of bag I’ve been beating in due to a technicality cuz I wrote my name, number and disc model on the inside rim of every disc 🤙
simon lizotte and other pros play with wiped putters because the designs distracts them!
Good vid
when I looked in the rules book it seemed like you could only play a mini Infront of the disc, I don't know if I'm reading this wrong but here is what I found "Alternatively, the player may mark the lie by placing a mini marker disc on the playing surface, touching the front of the thrown disc on the line of play." So could you still put a mini behind the disc or not because this seems to imply that you cant
just wanted to let you know
Yes, this is rule 802.06.B, you place your marker in FRONT of your disc.
The OB rule with taking a line behind it, is a big positive.
I ordered a Mr Putt when I first heard of them but it never came in the mail. Was intrigued but not enough to purchase twice. You should try a Lasso or three.
Appreciate you sharing your experience with the PDGA rules Robbie. Question: are those 3D printed discs PDGA APPROVED? lol. Have fun this weekend at Maple Hill.
They are!! One of the coolest parts about NsH is that they get their styles approved!
Not sure where you saw that you can mark behind the disc, that is not something in the marking the lie section : per 802.6
-The position of a thrown disc on the in-bounds playing surface marks the lie.
-Alternatively, the player may mark the lie by placing a mini marker disc on the playing surface, touching the front of the thrown disc on the line of play. A mini marker disc is a small disc, not used in play, that complies with PDGA Technical Standards for mini marker discs.
-When the thrown disc is not on the in-bounds playing surface, or when the lie is to be moved by rule, the player marks the lie by placing a mini marker disc in accordance with the applicable rule.
-Throwing from a lie marked in a manner other than described above is a marking violation. A player receives a warning for the first marking violation. A player receives one penalty throw for each subsequent violation of any marking rule during the round.
Overall, great info though lots of these rules are missed throughout different skill levels in tournament play
Excellent catch! That's why I added the caveat at the beginning that I would certainly mess some of these up! I had a MPO player tell me that before I played my first tournament, and can say with confidence I've never marked behind my disc, but always thought that option was there. Hahahaha good to know it's not! Thank You!!
@@RobbieCDiscgolf because some rules are reworded and changed year to year, it's possible the wording at one point allowed for the rule to be interpreted that behind the disc was acceptable, but the wording currently may have been changed at some point so that the behind the disc is no longer part of the rule. Because there are changes year to year and not everyone reads the changes these misunderstandings can occur. For the beginner though, the rules you had mentioned are all very useful and come up very often in tournament play.
I was going to ask about this. (Was wondering if you mark behind the disc if “the paper” would have to be in front of the marker or not) Thanks for clarifying
I tip to make your mini bigger for say a fairway run up is to regularly mark with a mini but your able to add a frisbee on top of it. It’s gotta only cover half of the mini (on the basket side) allowing the mini to still be the furthest point from the basket. Now you have a half covered mini marker that seems to be an entire disc. I find this help tremendously with my peripheral vision of my lye
Also, gloves and handwarmers (electric and chemical) are your friend.
Robbie, when you were talking about putting inside the circle, you mentioned that there was an “either”. On the penalty. Just wanted to clarify for anyone that was confused, 806.01(B) calls for a stance violation and a 1 stroke penalty. Nothing else is required to happen. Play continues as normal.
Hey robbie has there been any movement in the disc golf app arena like udisc?
Hi did i hear that if your disc gets on the top of the basket now it counts?
You can mark your disc from the back? Never heard of that or seen it
I really missed the casual relief rule on random water rule (or how is it called in english) and mainly casual relief after throwing OB... I feel like many people dont know about these.
How about non out of bounds tree with so much moss that disc gets stuck and cant be seen exactly where it went it...card knew approximate location...back to teepad?
Hey Robbie, that sucks that the “lost and then found” disc thing happened to you. The same thing happened on a card I was on, but it was this past fall on a Par 3, wherein my cardmate’s disc disappeared under the leaves and wasn’t located until after he returned to the tee box and threw his re-tee. I was the one who informed him that he would have to finish out the hold from his re-tee. We were all bummed for him but we used the PDGA app to look up the rule on the spot and it was what it was.
I was curious about what you said about playing a provisional for a lost disc and looked the lost disc rule up.
805.03.C (Lost Disc)
Once a disc has been declared lost, the status does not change if subsequently found. A player is allowed to use the disc if found.
Can you explain how taking a provisional for your lost disc on the par 5 could have played out if you had taken a provisional? Would you have been able to play from your disc in the tall grass after declaring it lost?
I’m stoked that you made an episode about this ✌️
In my understanding, he could have thrown a provisional from the tee after his first shot, if he thought there was a chance his disc was lost. At that point you play the provisional until you get to the point that the other disc may have been lost. You then spend your allotted time looking for the disc. If you find it, you pick up the provisional and play the first disc. At this point, there would be no reason to play out the provisional because you found the initial disc and it's in play. If you don't find the disc, you finish out with the provisional and it scores out like the stroke and distance penalty would have.
What I'm unsure about, is if you continue playing, do you have until you make your putt, for someone to find your disc and be able to use it, or when you are done searching for your disc and make your next throw, is the firs throw now null and void. I could see an argument as to why you would be able to use the first disc up until you hole the putt. Had you thrown much further than you thought, or had a roll that put the disc much further up the fairway, you could find it after the next throw and before you finish the hole.
For what he was talking about with playing both the provisional and first throw out, would be if there is no tournament director right there and you were unsure about a lie, you could play a provisional. You would then play both discs out keeping track of which was which, and the TD could verify the proper call at a later point.
@13:39 I played a sanctioned round at Kilborne in Charlotte a couple days ago and I threw a disc on hole 9, saw it hit the tree 120 feet from the tee pad, saw it fall, and we couldn't find it in 3 minutes. I told my card mates that I was going to re tee for my third throw and they said that they would continue to look for it. Officially, it was declared a lost disc so I couldn't have played it had somebody found it after my declaration, but that didn't stop me from walking very slowly back to the tee pad.
The card behind us was sitting on the bench at 9's tee pad and they offered to come up and help us look for my disc. I thanked them and let them know that it was already declared a lost disc and I was going to throw another horrible throw that they could witness. I threw a horrible throw and they witnessed it. I ended up with a 5 on a hole that is usually very easy to par.
1) in the scenario where you lost your disc in tall grass, but then found it after teeing off again, should you have called a provisional before the second tee shot?
2) how do you mark a provisional on the pdga scoring app?
1)No, once the time expires it doesn't matter if you find it or not. 2) there is not. you just mark the score and confirm which was the correct result before submitting the score card.
Pretty much every park is called "Veteran's park". Screwed me up once when I went to meet a friend at Veteran's park.
Maybe I missed it but there are also some areas that you can get casual relief, correct? Is that usually designated ahead of time by the TD?
Most of the time yes! TD's will throw out lots of things that are tournament specific that can supercede all of the info in this video...which can get real confusing hahaha
How do you play a lie when its not physically possible without serious landscaping to reach the position of your disc. Do you just get hosed for that even though your willing to try and get to it?
Am Tip: If you don’t want to spend money on a mini, stop by a convenience store and get yourself a large fountain drink. The lids are the correct size and shape per the PDGA and make great minis.
I don’t really understand the relief rule. If you have to get to your disk, just get a foot on it and pitch out it’s the same.
I'm pretty sure a pringle's can's lid and double as a marker. Just so you have a back up plan...
You mention throwing a provisional if you're unsure of a ruling, but can a provisional be used in the same way as ball golf if you are unsure whether your ball went ob or not, you can hit a provisional. Play that ball until you get to the point that your other ball may have went out. If your first ball is in play, you pick the provisional up and play out the hole with the initial ball, as if nothing happened. If you can't find the first ball, you continue playing the provisional and add the stroke and distance penalty to it. Basically a means of speeding up play, rather than needing to walk back to tee up again, or possibly walk back to your last lie to throw again.
Yes. If you are unsure if your discs is OB, and that OB would result in throwing from your previous lie, declare a provision and throw. If you get to your disc, and it is determined that it is NOT OB, disregard the provisional throw and continue to play the hole. If it is OB, then your provisional throw becomes your post-OB throw.
You only have to demonstrate balance before moving forward, meaning backwards falling putts like a reverse step putt are allowed. (but are so close to useless, it's probably not even worth practicing).
19:55 You don't "have" to go in there to play your shot. If you are outside 10m, you can go in under the tree from the camera side, and mark with your back foot, place your front foot in front of the mark somewhere, and jump that foot up and throw. It gets you forward with no penalty. If you are up against a tree, I believe you can mark with your back foot on the trunk and jump your front foot and throw... because the tree is in play as being behind your disc(I have no idea if anyone would allow this).
Is it permissible to place the mini marker to the right or left of disc. (especially if I am behind a tree.)
No, it has to be directly in front.
So, do you throw the provisional first or second?
As soon as you realize you need it. Always going to be the next throw because how do you know ahead of time you might have lost a disc or played the first disc wrong.
Isn't there also no penalty relief for barbed wire?
Second question: If disc goes OB, is it still the rule that you can scoot back as far as you want in line with the basket or do you have to take it from directly 1 meter where it went OB?
My understanding is yes. You can take the marked lie in bounds for the 1 meter and then extend backwards as long as you are in line with the basket (on the playing surface is how the rule book describes it)
Yes. One of the best players to wathc take advantage of that rule is Paul McBeth... he will move back a hundred feet or more in line with the basket if it will allow him a better shot after the O.B.
@@RobbieCDiscgolf Thats I interpret the rules too. 803.02 D and E
First question: If you take a provisional on a par 4 or par 5 but you clearly find your disc you thought might be lost or OB, are you always required to finish out the hole playing from both lies? Or is that only if there's a question for the TD to make the final call on?
So if you've lost the disc to OB, a provisional only lasts until that provisional has been used. For instance, you throw a 450 ft drive that was OB the whole time and you don't know if it got in bounds or not. Because of this, you throw a provisional chip shot onto the fairway just to be safe. The moment you throw from the provisional chip, if you haven't looked for the other it no longer matters. That throw has been moved on from. Does that makes sense? but the rule book reads this, " In the case where a ruling is disputed or uncertain, a player may have to play out from both the original and the provisional throws, essentially completing two legs. Once a ruling has been made, only. the throws for the correct leg are counted." So it seems like the safe move is always to compelte the two legs!
@@RobbieCDiscgolf I guess it makes sense. But the provisional is meant for pace of play purposes (plus TD ruling purposes) right? So if i throw a drive 450 ft (I can't) and think it might be lost in thick brush or maybe it went OB most of the carry, I then decide to throw a provisional from the tee. Throw 150 ft just to make sure I'm safe. Play my second from the provisional chip shot, since I'm still 300 ft away from my questionable first drive. And then finally get up to my original and see that I'm clearly in bounds. Wouldn't pace of play dictate that I stop throwing from my provisional? And there's not supposed to be a risk taken by calling provisional right?
Not trying to argue or anything, just wanting to make sure I understand it correctly.
@@tayloredwards2330 yea i definitely don't see it as arguing! To me, the heart of the rule at least would say that you should throw your chip shot as a provisional, but before you play that one out send someone up to check and see if the other is in bounds. Or at least go and see yourself. You're going to be allowed 3 minutes to find the disc anyways for a lost disc according to rules, so it would be creeping in on the practice throws vs provisionals to just always play one out as a "just in case" rule. That's certainly my understanding, but TD's and officials are welcome to chime in here.
@@tayloredwards2330 You are correct... the provisional disc is no longer needed when the original throw is found in bounds. The provisional is always good to play out the rest of the hole when there is any question as to what the correct play is, but when you find the first drive in bounds, you know it is legal and the one you should play, therefore it negates the need for the provisional. Continuing to play the provisional would indeed slow down pace of play. Very good question! But also remember... when in doubt, play a provisional. There is more forgiveness for playing an unnecessary provisional over misplaying a regular shot that will always incur penalties... so you are smart to err on the side of caution.
The meter relief from Obi throws can be in any direction.
I would benefit from a CZcams short all about provisionals, I still don’t get it and I’ve played in like 24 tournaments and have passed the TD PDGA rules exam.
You cannot place the mini behind the disc. It must be in front. 802.06 B
7:26
1. Landing on the OB line (partly in/partly out) is in bounds, correct?
2. You cannot throw from OB, correct?
3. So in order to stand behind your lie but still be in bounds you get a 1-meter relief from OB, correct?
4. Does that relief from the OB line incur a penalty?
The line is considered OB so part of your disc has to be on the inbounds side of the line. If you are inbounds then you get one meter away from the ob in a perpendicular line from the ob line without a penalty incurred. If you are ob then you get 1 meter from the OB line in any direction you choose. You cannot have any point of contact on the ground in an OB area when you release a disc. Let’s say you are putting and have taken a meter but really need a little more leg room for whatever reason. You could have your back foot on the ground in the OB area as long as when you release the disc that foot is not on the ground in the OB area.
In ball golf, there is a situation where you can take stroke and distance for any shot that you declare is unplayable, totally player decision. Can you do that in disc golf...like a monster roller that you don't want to play from?
Mitts are ideal for me and I get a larger size mitt so I can wear them with gloves underneath if I have to 😂
As a Power Rangers Stan, I love the morphing call outs!
all I needed was one comment like this to make it worth. Hahahaha Tommy for life!
Find a newly promoted MA3 they have ALL the rules 😉😂😂😂😂😂 sarcasm aside great vid on some basics that all need to know
what about, you're in bounds but up against a barbed wire fence?
My favorite was a tournament that sells beer to my teammate at a C-tier where alcohol is actually allowed within PDGA rules at TD's discretion, only to get DQ'd by the TD for drinking a beer between rounds (lunch) sold to them by the event itself. Also "practice throw" calls for tossing someone an OB disc. If you call someone on that that, you are cancer.
Hey Robbie. In terms of dangerous lies…. I know you said only animals but what if your disc lands on a sheet of ice in frigid conditions? That is pretty dangerous as well.
Great question, I'd be willing to bet in most circumstances the TD will clarify this. If there is frozen ice, I'd take your lie from behind staying in line with the basket, declare a provisional, throw and complete the hole as if you were playing that right. Then I'd also if you feel unsafe play from that same marked spot as the provisional as if you are taking relief with the 1 stroke penalty. I'd bet most TD's will allow you to take the leg of the provisional being no stroke penalty, but playing both out let's you be safe from misplay (which is two additional strokes)
@@RobbieCDiscgolf i see what you are saying. Thank you for the answer.
Thorns.... New Zealand has Gorse, Scotch Thistle, Hawthorn and Blackberry... (all fairly much like thorns) but that's fine, ...
what is NOT... and has actually been recorded to have killed at least one person (and horses) in NZ...
Is ONGAONGA (Tree Nettle).
This is basically a plant with hundreds of tiny hypodermic needles on each leaf, each needle capable of providing a sting along the lines of a bumble bee. (I rode bare legged through a beach covered in Blue Bottles that flung up on my legs... Very similar to my brushes with Ongaonga..... Very humorous... (for spectators to the event that is)
I believe this would have to be an allowable relief.
i would also guess that if your disk backs up to a 100ft cliff that standing within a meter of would be life threatening (and for some reason they didn't mark it as OB.).
brings up a question.... say a concrete edge pond... disc lands past the pond but only 2mm completely inside bounds... even with a marker in front that would not leave more than a disc diameter to "safely" stand in... (my feet are bigger than a disc so I would have to have both sideways to the basket... and therefore stand a chance of overbalancing backward into the pond (or down a terrace ob etc... I guess they have a rule for that... Must do some eye walking for myself...
(There's a small section on one of my MTB videos (Deliverance or Mr X) where I stopped on a goat track after nearly clipping an object and going OB (OB is even less fun on a Mountain bike)... and where i would have fallen was a huge bush of Ongaonga. Luckily Doc leaves usually grow nearby and are an antidote for the poison.
I fear my 1st tournament as I can barely score myself correctly (dyslexia and add in minor but irritating degree... really easily distracted and I talk A LOT)...
I am not going to be able to score my entire group without causing a delay as I realize I didn't score the last one, scored it on the next one... scored hole 1 as the 1st when we started on 7 etc...
Just as a caddie I did the last one....
Basically that one rule is going to make my 1st tournament a miserable experience and I don't want to have to get a caddie to overcome it.
(did I mention I also am a fairly laid back, relaxed person... which is my way of combating my ANXIETY which is why this is just going to be hell...
ok once I'm in the game, I'll be relaxed and fine (at least until I stuff the scoring) a bit like the sick feeling I would get at the start of a b-grade trailbike race that I would be near bored once a lap in but barely able to breathe at the start line...
of course I specialise in being mediocre so I won't be going for the win so it won't be important that I get the scoring right... It's just that I most like will NOT get it right.
Sigh
Lysdexia slures ! K.O.
(Actually my mild Dyslexia has some neat results... Like me thinking the World Superbike champion had the same name as a type of dog... Scott Russel. (hence getting the nickname "2 Dogs" for a while...))
I won a b tier that Emerson Keith played in this year.
Did he also win yes…..
Were we in different divisions? Yes……
But still.
Something that doesn't often get mentioned about "THE RULES"...
You can actually break a LOT of them without any repercussions other than... A penalty.. You CAN just throw another disc from the Tee if you want.... If your also happy to take the penalty.
If breaking a rule (that doesn't involve any other player or expulsion from the event) is going to make your day better... sometimes for mental wellbeing (especially if your really just there for fun) you ca just take an appropriate penalty and move on with your life...
I'm not saying break rules and get away with it... more ... be happy with that step putt if it was an otherwise personal best... just take the penalty... and learn from the mistake.
Get the scoring wrong (I know I will... not Maybe... I WILL get them wrong, Dyslexia and ADD sees to that)... But just roll with the penalty (unfortunately my Anxiety counters that one for me)...
And at the end of the day... you could possibly have your score nullified I guess... but if you had fun (and not at any other players expense) sometimes that's all that matters (again I don't care what score I get as long as I have some good shots, beat some on some holes and have someone that is struggling beat me ... I'm happy. (Actually that's sort of my mediocre mantra on all things me).
What if I’m allergic to Poison Ivy?! Is that considered dangerous?
Only if the tournament director has previously stated that casual relief is allowed from poison ivy. I have never seen this happen. The rules states harmful insects or animals. You must be prepared and clothed properly.
You can always take optional relief with a 1 stroke penalty if you refuse to throw from the lie due to poison ivy.
I volunteered at the LWS last year and poison ivy was included by the TD as a dangerous hazard.
This is a response to someone else but I didn’t want it to get buried deep in the replies.
You always have the option to abandon your previous throw and throw again from the same spot you just threw from.
Scenario: You are putting for a score of 2 from 10’ away. Your putt goes through the chains and rolls 60’ down a hill into thick brush but is still in bounds. You can abandon that shot and putt again from the same spot. The way the scoring works is that 2nd shot still counts as a shot on the scorecard and you take a one stroke penalty on top of that so you would be taking that same 10’ putt but it would be for a 4.
You can abandon a shot at any time and in the above scenario it is worthwhile because you know you aren’t going to miss that 10’ putt again and you also know that a lot bad stuff could happen if you tried to get up and down from 60’ away in thick brush.
In my opinion this isn’t used as often as it should be by amateur players.
I wish the length you could be behind the disc was more than a sheet of paper. Wish it was closer to 2 feet. I'm always super close to stepping on it and I honestly don't care if someone is 2 feet behind the disc. As long as they aren't in front of the disc or 5+ feet behind it lol
I will never be a good player, but I regularly play with gloves and with cold it is useful
I will introduce the discs and then at the same time, slam them on the ground. LOL
A lot of my local courses have barb-wire. A forgiving rule ever is to allow for 6’ of relief from this danger.
The 2 meter rule from barbed wire is not a rules, per PDGA. TD's can offer additional relief but must be declared before tournament. In Texas that is usually fire ants and barbed wire. But barbed wire is not stated at all in the rulebook.
Noo 😂 22:14
Just an FYI you don't need a phone to keep score. You just must all keep score, not required to be in the app, the TD must provide a hand scoring option. You can and probably should keep score by hand. Technology should not be a barrier to entry...
most definitely. I know a friend who TD's mentioned he's just going to print like 500 paper cards and hope they last for the year. The Tech imo makes it WAY easier especially in the scoring app, but for our less tech savy paper is definitely an option!
Agreed. The tech is way easier but I would hate a person to get a penalty just because their phone died.@@RobbieCDiscgolf
@@RobbieCDiscgolf one good thing about the scoring app, if anyone enters a score that differs from the other players on the card, it alerts you immediately so it can be fixed on the spot. Had someone this past weekend who couldn't seem to master the fine art of scoring as he was distracted with his trash talk and Bud Light during the round. Lol.
Everyone must keep score of the entire card, or just their own?
@@jamesfarabaugh6669 as of January 1st of this year, all members of the card must keep score during sanctioned tournament play.
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Whoa whoa whoa Robbie, wdy mean mark the disc in front or behind the disc it's just IN FRONT, rule 802.06 Marking the Lie it's perfectly clear wtf dude
Everyone hates the rule-nazi during a casual round. Even with a doubles tournament with cash on the line, there's a limit to the amount of nazi we'll put up with regarding the rules.
And yet, rules make it competitive, fair, and fun.
I get annoyed by players who disregard the rules completely, too. There's a lot of us with no intention of joining the PDGA or playing in any sanctioned events. Ever.
So, I wish there was a relaxed set of rules that allowed for casual play that was still competitive and fun.
A Casual Rules guide should be short and simple, and take into account the casual player who doesn't own a thousand discs or even a single mini marker. It should focus on fairness while allowing for good, competitive fun.
I have spoken. And I don't matter.
agreed - we just throw out some basic "rules" at the beginning of each round. (usually pertaining to the course we're playing that day.