AIRCRAFT MARKINGS - Top-10 Examples of Surprising Variations in Color Schemes and Configurations
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Wonderful video Mike. I had so much to say that I realized I'd be leaving a novel in the comments. I will just say this, these changes are keeping kit model and aftermarket decal makers busy! 😊
Agreed! 'Thought of you with this one, thanks Max!
Ahhh liveries…just when you think you’ve seen it all today, tomorrow there’s always something new and different! Another entertaining vid Mike!
At the Technical Museum in Berlin, there are several aircraft that are displayed with different liveries projected onto them. This allows visitors to see how they appeared during their operational period under different operators
Absolutely interesting video, and I had no way but to agree with "Machat's Law". The vista painting is absolutely superb Mike! One of your masterpieces! Greetings from Brazil, and keep up the excellent work!
Appreciate the comment, many thanks Gustavo!
"Machat's Law" has a corollary in the Navy too. No two ships of the same class are ever exactly alike. Changes and modifications incurred during building, and more changes during each shipyard maintenance period, and newer gear switched out. In a large class, these changes can be quite major.
Another place where major variations of color scheme occured was with the target drones made from old fighters. At Tyndall AFB, Fl. in late 1970s, we saw drone versions of F-100, F-102 and F-4 Phantoms. Some had their ADC gray with differing orange panels, others in different variations of SEA camo, with differing orange panels. Later this was done on the F-106 Delta Darts, some keeping parts of their original squadron markings while others had the markings scrubbed. No two ever alike.
The bane of serious model builders' and artists' existence...
Outstanding presentation Mike. Always a fun learning experience watching these gems.
Great subject!
Another fantastic and informative video, loved it. Learning a lot keep them coming. Thank you
Nice B-58 Build .
❤ That Bird.
As a modeler, I've got the same law! Except it's called "Moran's Law". Nice video, thank you.
Another excellent video Mr. Machat. Thank you for sharing. The X-62 colour scheme is awesome. It really stands out.
Many thanks!
Another outstanding presentation!
That was a fun video!
It's funny, in the model airplane making world there are those die hard "rivet counters" that insist a certain airplane had a very specific color, and they get upset if you stray from that "correct" color markings.
Very true, and my comment is always "That's what it looked like that day." Thanks for watching!
Another outstanding presentation, Mike. BTW, the 'chevron' that you noted on the vertical stab of the B-58 was also known as an 'alar'.
Airliner mismatched paint jobs include "borrowed" radomes where the paint lines don't match up. Solved by not having paint lines on radomes. Also, I've always wondered why American Airlines used the color orange on their planes for so much of their history. If anyone knows, I'd be interested in hearing the explanation.
Great pictures. Awesome video
Many thanks!
Mike, you would be GREAT at aviation "Trivial Pursuit," nobody would ever win against you.
Another great watch thanks to Mike Machat and his many laws.
Appreciate the comment, many thanks!
Mike, you have risen to another level! 👏👏👏
Appreciate the comment, thanks!
Another colorful video. Pun intended. Great work.
Thanks John. 'Thought of you and all the model decal sheets for this one!
It's not just the paint that varies! In my days as an avionics tech on A-4M's and TA-4F's, there was little consistency in the wiring between aircraft of the same type. We had to use the BuNo to find the applicable wiring diagram for the avionics system of interest. I feel sorry for the person at Douglas who had to track all of those variations as aircraft got updated over the years! As for the Douglas X-3, I've got pics of it at the USAF museum dating back to the old days in the hangar across the runway. I'd never noticed that lump/fairing on the wings, but it is definitely there in the photos. To their credit, it does blend in well.
Compared to the Harrier, working on the TA4J was like opening up the refrigerator and getting out a bottle of milk.The first AV8As were made in the UK by Hawker/Siddeley, then British Aerospace [BAe], and before I went RELAD, McDonnell/Douglas was getting into the act. Greetings Brother WingWalker! VMA-513/AVI, WC220.
@@HootOwl513 hey neighbor! I was in VMAT-102, just next door!
Really good episode Mr Machat! I had no idea there were that many color schemes! Believe it or not I thought it was a model box art thing😂🤣. Always learn from your posts and love them all!! As always God bless you and your family. Thanks for everything you do! Take care always Sir! 😊
Thanks Martin!
@@celebratingaviationwithmik9782 you are most welcome Sir!
Interesting video as usual, but it’s also interesting you work in some box art too.
Great video sir!
Appreciate the comment, many thanks!
Mondays with Mike!
Wonderful stuff.
Always the best thank you
Appreciate the comment, many thanks!
I think that many of these variations were caused by guys in the paint shop saying, " I can do better than that!" Just a guess. Another great video Mike, Thanks.
Great point, thanks!
That was fun!
I've never seen your DB Cooper painting before...
And the natural metal X2...very cool.
Thank you for your references to modeling...do you still build?
Silly me...you are a busy guy
Thank you for all your hard work Mike!
Thanks for your comment Steve, and yes, I'm still afflicted with the life-long model-building condition!
Different day...different paint scheme...my head is still spinning. Great video but a little disturbing, now where are my reference photos, I might need to correct some models?!
Hi Mike! Quite interesting video as usualI have NEVER paid attention to that fact. Kindest regards from Mexico City!
Thanks for watching!
At Robins Air Logistics Center, we have the E-8C J-Stars airplanes that are built using old commercial 707 airframes. They have that vertical stabilizer probe. Maybe you could trace lineage of those machines back to their airline days
Many years ago I collected the Japanese Koku Fan books.
Back in the early 1980's there was an issue featuring the 141 TFS of the New Jersey ANG. My father served in that unit during the Korean War era.
At the time of the issue the unit flew the F-4D, all of which were freshly painted in the Euro One paint scheme....or were supposed to have painted in said scheme.
The T.O. called for Grey 36081, Green 34102, and Dark Green 34079.
One photo showed all of the squadron aircraft lined up side by side.
It was obvious that there was quite a variation in the colors used. On some aircraft the grey used was lighter; on others the A-10 green (34092) replaced 34079...
So, it appeared that not all of the airplane painters read the T.O.
Or, maybe on certain days they were out of the correct paint..
The T.O. for general aircraft painting changed often and many times during the Euro1 Era. So often in fact that it changed before the all jets in the same unit could receive alike paint.
This reminds me ... about a decade ago I did some research on one of the DHC Dash-7 planes that I admired as a kid. That particular one ended with Asian Spirit and boy, does that airline know how to make you mad ... they can't even paint their planes the same on left and right side.
Mike, you are a walking encyclopedia. Lol
The variations make for interesting modeling and art work. Are the photos captioned correctly? What is the time stamp? This isn’t limited to planes; railroads, trucks, even busses show variations . Great video
Machat's law valid for all military vehicules especially during wartimes as accurate tone colors not essential for operations ,and not to forget the weathering of the paint.Also it gives the modeller i am a scope to stray away from the ''true colors''.
Well said!
I'm sure you know about Dan Gryder's video solving the D. B. Cooper adventure? There are actually two videos.
Yes, thanks!
01:29 What does that thin red vertical line on the aft fuselage of the F 94C represent? I've seen this marking on the F 86, F 101 and several other early jet fighters. I tried researching it, but I couldn't find a conclusive answer.
Good question, and that red stripe is the turbine location warning. In the rare event turbine blades (called "buckets") fracture from the engine while it's running on the ramp, that stripe serves as a warning to ground personnel not to stand directly next to the airplane at that location. Thanks for watching!
Now I’m going to pay much closer attention to the jets at the airport from now on. 😂😂😂
Was the HF antenna an option for transoceanic aircraft only? Or, alternately, was the antenna integrated into the top of the tall fin without a boom?
Good question, and even that fact is affected by 'Machat's Law.' Certain international airlines like BOAC ordered their Boeing 707-320 Intercontinentals with wingtip-mounted antenna probes in addition to the tail probe for overseas operations. Military variants of the 707-320 flying in the Air Force and Navy today are fitted with the classic HF antennas on their tail fins. Thanks for watching!
Dig that X-3 8:11 , its material and design virtues are still in use today, its shortcoming was hidden from wind tunnels and yet fundamental. Its engines were powerful enough.
Model box at 66 seconds! 🚨🚨🚨
Yes, a new record. Thanks for watching!
For every rule there is in aircraft painting, there is an equal and opposite exception....
Yes, from a long time IPMS type...
My dear Mike first congratulations for this lovely channel I spent hours and hours feeding my inner child pilot with your knowledge and pictures
Thanks a lot for sharing your long life passion with all of us
I have two questions
In number 7 is possible to source the ladder picture I really loved this wide shoot as a photographer is a amazing shot and a lot of things are going on at the same time
Second in the flight school scheme color #10 I see helicopters in the same paint scheme and looking for information I see the white sands missile range can you tell us more about it
Thanks in advance
Big hugs from Santo Domingo...!!!!
Thanks for your comment, and that B-58 photo was actually downloaded from the Internet. I used "B-58 SAC Alert photos" in the search engine. As for your helicopter and White Sands Missile Range question, I'm not really familiar with that, sorry. Thanks for watching!
Is that a blue slide rule, 17:31 with a lighting bolt? Excellent work whether or not.
Yes - good catch!
I saw that too, and realized it was an homage to that great generation of aeronautical engineers and designers who ''saw'' an aircraft in their heads, rolled up their sleeves, sharpened their pencils, and got down to the configuration they wanted - using the 'slidestick' to check their figures. I went thru a Navy avionics school at NAS Memphis in the mid-'70s, and was taught to figure out trig formulae with the slide rule. A Gunny said, ''Once in the Fleet, the only thing you'll be using that for, is stirring paint.'' Well, I kept mine out of the paint bucket, but I lost the crystal slider and can't remember how to use it anymore.
I wonder how many young pilots going thru that school now even know what it is?
🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 Hey Mike . So was the convair 880 the first passenger aircraft with reverse thrust?
Thanks for the question, and actually all four first-generation U.S. jetliners had thrust reversers, although they used different methods. The 880 had louvers inside those dark screens at the rear of the nacelle that changed direction on landing, and that produced the soot seen on the aft pylons. Similar method on the first Boeing 707s, but the Douglas DC-8 had a ring that slid back on the pylon, and then two bucket doors on the sides closed to deflect the thrust. The Convair 990 used similar doors, but they were attached directly to the rear of the engine nacelle. Thanks for watching!
They cut the wings off the X-3 for lack of space!? 🤨Not like the wings are large, but no matter because thousands of X-3's were produced... oops. If I were the docent, I wouldn't make that information part of my regular speech.
You missed the 11th catagory...That is, when an aircraft is re-painted, and the painter paints the wrong "N" number on it! I've seen it happen.
Love it!
Why did a fire fighting DC-10 land at LAX on June 10 at 9:00 am?
Good question, and 'wondering if it might have been for maintenance, as FedEx has a DC-10/MD-11 maintenance facility (former Flying Tigers) on the west end of the airport. Thanks for watching!
My wife likes her too.
As an aviation enthusiast and RC scale modeler, I love this presentation, it is absolutely great (as always), Thanks. I have a question for you though: I am finishing a 1/16 scale model of the Boeing 727 and want to paint it in the first and second prorotypes Yellow/Brown colors. Problem is, despite many hours of research I could not positively establish what the actual colors looked like. Can you help establish what those were, please?