How Athletes Fall for Pseudoscience, and Wellness Leads to Conspiracy Theories
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- čas přidán 8. 01. 2022
- Novak Djokovic finds himself in a cheap hotel instead of warming up for the Australian Open. The strange overlapping Venn diagrams of sport, wellness, quackery, QAnon and antivax.
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By the time I finished editing this I found myself feeling more sorry for Novak and do hope he can compete. He’s found himself used for political reasons. As Rafa said though, there is a very easy way he could've avoided all of this. Until then, won't someone please think about the water
You mean dihydrogen monoxide, the silent killer?
This is nonsense. My husband and I are vaccinated. Our son has severe immunodeficiency, is unable to build inmunity to vaccines. Us and other people getting the vaccine does not protect him at all. It does not prevent of transmission. Why are we lauding a vaccine as if it protect others and shoving it down peoples throats? Why were we promised updated vaccines meanwhile the flu vaccine is updated better, more often and aggressively rolled out? I'm sick of hearing about it preventing severe disease while transmission is being ignored. I'm sick of people pretending their vaccination status protects the people I love. Lies like this are putting vulnerable people at risk. N95 and updated more effective vaccine now please.
16:35 btw you said "hydrogen dioxide" lol
This is a really good nuanced take. I think you're probably one of the most level headed and we'll spoken takes on this difficult topic so far.
Have you considered making an episode (or have I missed it?) about psychedelic mushrooms?
Charging himself with positive ions explains why so much negativity is coming his way.
😂😂
Hilarious.
Hahaha, perfect
@@MedlifeCrisis I’m laughing just like you at a “doctor” ignoring natural immunity and scapegoating a global issue. Lost all respect for you.
@@martint5340 Go cry yourself a river
"While Novak is against any form of drug, seemingly, Agassi seems to have been a fan of all of them." 😂😂
Except Rogaine.
@@thechumpsbeendumped.7797 Haha
@@thechumpsbeendumped.7797 The bald helps him understand the ball better.
Novak is probably a juiced to the gills on EPO and TRT
@@rahulmenon4357
You could say it makes him more aerodynamic or should that be hairodynamic? 😉
Fun fact: The "positive ion" strain of quackery tends to include jewellery and bracelets containing uncomfortable amounts of dangerous radioactive materials, in particular one isotope of cobalt. You know, because the ions align your chakras and it counteracts the cancer or something.......
maybe a reason to avoid hanging around with Djoko, as he may be a bit radioactive.
They totally work, they align your chakras so hard that ions decide to peace-out from your DNA molecules and cellular machinery....
They contain/contained thorium. They don't contain cobalt.
@@daviddavidson2357 Actually from what I've seen, both kinds exist. It's not like "positive ions" is a protected brand or anything. Some of them contain nothing at all. You're right, thorium was the common one, though.
@@mortenrl1946 It was always branded as negative ion.
You're telling me that if I search for positive ion I can get a "massage pen" full of radioactive cobalt?
I want one now. Already have the negative ion thorium one. It's usually a laugh handing it to friends and asking them what they think it's for. When you say it's full of radioactive thorium they usually freak the fuck out. The metal casing blocks most of the radiation and short term exposure is harmless. I still keep it in a labelled ziplock bag with both caution symbols printed off and tossed in with it and then inside a small labelled metal box at the opposite end of my house and the furthest away from any people for safety reasons, but having someone muse over what it is for a few minutes is always a laugh when you tell them it's full of thorium salts. The fact that it's sealed in metal and then inside a metal box means that the only real danger from it is gamma decay products and its gamma emissions are minimal, barely above background and an old radium dial (which you can get on plenty of antiques sites or even the most common online auction site (YT censor bit deletes all posts with the name of it in my posts so let's just call it "eshore"/"iBeach") would eclipse it in terms of gamma output.
There is a large "do not open item" warning inside the ziplock as having a sealed source is one thing, having thoria everywhere is a mini Goiana cleanup effort. Unless I'm using it for a prank it's also marked with a sharpie (you can wipe that off with an alcohol swab) warning anyone to not open it as well as having the trefoil badly drawn on top. You'd need to be aiming for a Darwin award if you wanted to open it.
If I have kids the box will be locked.
"I haven't looked into it because I don't care about any of those organs"
That line was perfect
It took me a second or two to get a grip on that. Beautiful line!
When I was a kid (maybe I was 12?) he brushed me off very rudely when I asked for an autograph and I’ve strongly disliked him ever since.
Waiting for the cardiologist to do a series on myocarditis.
There’s plenty of cardiologists on CZcams who explain what myocarditis is, have a search there’s some great information about how it all works
7:24 This goes both ways, too. Far too many researchers at the university I used to work hard convinced themselves that, since they were educated medical doctors 30 years ago, even if they spent the last decades becoming experts in one niche field of medicine, they are now still experts in all other fields of medicine until proven otherwise, showing only slight remorse when being told off by the office whose job it is to know that stuff. It's so unbelievably common to think you're actually knowledgeable in something you've heard about once or twice, logical fallacies had to be defined to cover this unfortunate tendency.
At least, I think scientists are slightly better at hiding their pride when being held responsible for the things they say, e.g. when talking to a journalist or making an official public statement.
Yeah I agree completely. I remember watching the news when there was a discussion about another lockdown and they interviewed a fucking GP. They took the ramblings of some random GP about COVID-19 strategy over an epidemiologist.
Love the work. My Serbian wife also confirms his wife is cray cray. The funny thing about athletes is that they aren't even in optimal health. Health isn't performance. They are good performers. Eating vast quantities of food, training intensely and pushing yourself to the limit isn't good for longevity or mobility later in life.
Yes, the argument against PED's on the basis that they are bad for the health of sportsmen is ludicrous. Sport is what's bad for the health of sportsmen.
How stupid was that?! Wow!!
Yes, prolonging death only proves that living longer still leads to death.
@@KC9UDX They're saying that the practise in staying in top performance is bad for your health. Why is true, having a good amount of exercise keeps the muscles in working order, but straining the muscles too much actually weakens them in the long term. Also for things like football you have things like studs which while helping you grip the ground, also means that your foot doesn't turn with your body which wears on the cartilage in the knees.
@@crypticcryptid4702 does that make people more likely to die?
Honestly, I’m looking forward to the Border Patrol Australia episode starring Djokovic
“Did you bring any food?”
“No”.
“Then what’s that you’re eating?”
“Those are ionized split peas, that is holistic nourishment.”
“……”.
@@_JoyceArt Hahah it's always about food! "Nah mate, all these sausages, those cheeses and vegetables - that's all food".
You actually _watch_ that crap?
@@olmostgudinaf8100 Yes, it's funny
Does this mean we have to issue visas to any undesirable who shows up at the border.
As a former national-level athlete in my sport and a current scientist I happily admit to the concept of "superstition to 'control' stuff normally outside my control". Obviously I knew it was bogus, but the simple act of ritually eating garlic+oranges and drinking a herb-concoction (contained echinea puprurea extract so maybe not entirely useless at reducing symptoms of colds?) at least gave me the peace of mind to have done something to make me wake up OK next morning.
It's called "autoshaping" and it's one of the simplest operant conditioning models. Works on animals and in humans it's the basis of superstitious behavior and beliefs.
In essence: 1) I do X 2) by chance, or simply, with no relation to event X, Y happens and it is pleasurable 3) after some trials (in humans, one is often enough), the subject will do X again, as if X caused Y (Unless you are aware of this happening or have learned a more logical way or Thinking, you'll asume X had something to do with Y).
I think I don't understand this concept. Garlic and orange are actually very healthy foods, obviously they don't cure cancer but they can definitely help be more healthy. Garlic has even proved effective against hypertension.
@@andreac5152 Superstitions doesn't have to be unhealthy.
@@andreac5152 he's saying garlic and orange juice was presumed to be something of greater cause in his overall health because of superstition
@@WOLIPOPGAMING for me the peace of mind he is talking about is mainly having done the best he could for his health, so it's useless being anxious. He said that he knew he was bogus, convincing yourself that you'll be ok to harness the power of placebo can be a great science driven behaviour. It's a paradox, if science tells you that if you believe something you'll be better, science is telling you that you should be unscientific when needed. And anyway supplements are effective, we don't have to go to the opposite extreme, there are evidence of effectiveness of certain supplements even against COVID.
Seeing my medical colleagues get incredibly superstitious on call is the most hilarious thing to me. Not eating certain foods, not taking certain lifts, bathing in certain scents, not commenting on how quiet the night has been... and the worst part, them getting genuinely upset when I try to mess with them. Just like athletes would do anything to get a competitive edge, it seems that my poor colleagues would do anything to have a quiet call lol
Well of course! A quiet shift means less potential suffering from all parties involved. It's ultimately just a psychological prank our brains play on us though. A tangent of our pattern seeking programming connecting dots that aren't actually connected. Walking under a ladder is genuinely an unsafe behavior, not actually "unlucky". And if you drop and break a mirror, you're probably predisposed to other clumsy behaviors and will find plenty of evidence convincing you of your "bad luck".
A lot of superstitions seem to have been started for understandable reasons, but were ultimately wrongly attributed to unrelated events.
I, on the other hand, just love sprinkling in the quiet word into every conversation possible
YEs, I love to loudly comment, "Gee it's really QUIET isn't it !!!". The reaction is priceless, as if I really have that much power over the Universe. Believe me, if I really did control the Universe in that way, I would use it to win the bloody Lotto, not rain shit upon my head.
I keep telling people! Wellness is the pseudoscience that actually infests the people who should medically know better! It gets around the loop hole by focusing on minor benefits that might appear in studies rather than just pretending they don't exist.
As a disabled person it's extremely frustrating. When I'm told to "have yoga" for my TBI issues it feels like I'm being talked down to. Instead of listening to the drug injury I acquired from a prescription and trying to understand that drug better, I'm told to do shit like Yoga! Like that's going to help much!
Maybe they sniffed out the parabens, and artificial colours with documented dangerous interactions in the scents. Also not eating certain foods seems imminently logical considering a majority of food is only recently created, processed or made 20 times sweeter and available year round in the past hundreds of years. Heck if I trust any food when even cows eat corn, antibiotics and have higher omega6 to 3 ratio.
As a Serbian I just want to point out that Novak never wanted to become a poster child for the anti-vaxers
Austalian goverment told him he was good to go (otherwise he wouldn't have been able to even get on a plane) and when he showed up, the rules have suddenly changed. This affected other non-vaccinated players, but some of them were allowed to stay. Which his defense obviously pointed out.
The issue became an actual issue only when Australian public gained notice, so they decided he is gonna be an example. They held out the decision until the last moment.. I also wanna point out that he donated a massive amount of money during the pandemic to Serbian hospitals and vaccine research&prevention
Pro-tip for not becoming a anti-vaxxer poster child: don't be an anti-vaxxer shit stain.
@@TiagoMorbusSa Classic lefty self-righteous rage.
@@hillehai such rage
pro-tip - go get another booster, shit stain@@TiagoMorbusSa
I've got a glass of water that's going green. It's been in my greenhouse for 6 months, but I've never shouted at it. How about THAT for mind control, eh??
It is clearly because of neglect. You left it all alone in the greenhouse... should've set up a TV, or some music to keep it company. Shame on you Sir, you have mistreated your water
@@ffoska legit just wonder if the guy shouting made some saliva get in the glass and then something grew…
A young Rohin freaking out John McEnroe with early comedy attempts is an image we shouldn’t forget. Love the behind the scenes tournament glimpses!
You can NAHT be SERIOUS! :D
sadly, this was in the pre-camera phone era. Otherwise, you know somebody would've filmed it and all of our days would be better after having watched it :)
When my siblings and I were kids we would “do a McEnroe” and take all the tennis rackets, throw them on the ground and have tantrums. Years later listening to McEnroe complain about ANY other players poor sportsmanship was always so ironic.
16:36 "hydrogen dioxide" you mean "dihydrogen monoxide"- but near enough for a cardiologist :)
I know 🤦🏽I’m currently just claiming it was a deliberate mistake to make people comment.
It scares me to think where the wellness movement would be today were it not for the tireless effort and groundbreaking studies of wellness scientists.
Hey Rohin,
one topic that I would really love to see you cover is trust in doctors. In my home country Germany, a considerable number of doctors are also advertising homeopathy and other unproven (and in some cases obviously nonsensical) treatments. A few years ago, a group of lung doctors made headlines by wrongly claiming that air pollution wasn't actually a problem in German cities. Of course the overwhelming majority of doctors are advising everyone to get vaccinated against Covid, but there is a vocal minority of actual doctors helping to fuel the anti-vax crowd.
How can I as a potential patient be certain that my doctor's advice is based on evidence, not quackery?
Unfortunately a medical degree does not inoculate people from stupidity. I don't think there's an easy answer to your last question, but it would be a good topic for a video, thanks
If doctors become complicit in mandatory vaccination without free and informed consent they are discrediting their reputation and the reputation of science. If they cannot uphold their own sacred principles, they don't deserve to be trusted or believed by anyone on anything. It is like a self harming disorder.
@@jamescaley9942 I'd like to know about these sacred principles. Is this something you get with your medical degree? Your license? Is it inherent: you could only get into medical school if you have them or only pass medical school or get licensed if you have these sacred principles? Who determines their existence? Perhaps the doctor could do a video about this.
@@jamescaley9942 And what principles would those be? And how would administering mandatory vaccination doses be in violation of them? The principle of not providing life-saving and changing medicines and treatments? Giving people proven and effective treatments?
Fucking quack.
You can always ask your doctor to point you to the clinical trials or studies they base their advice on, or maybe look for studies on it yourself. Also, you can go to other doctors and get another opinion.
Rohin you are the coolest uncle I never had. You are my role model when it comes to thinking about almost everything in life. Honest, analytical and very insightful, let alone your sharp wit and how well you articulate yourself
Not uncle...HUNKle!
That’s (literally) too kind of you to say, but…almost anything?! That’s too much pressure, please tell me you also have some decent role models too!
In my late thirties, I consider myself prime uncle age. What we assume is sharp wit is actually experienced as blunt force cringe trauma, however it's acceptable collateral.
@@MedlifeCrisis Hahaha maybe I got carried away with "role model" so let's stick to "cool uncle". I would say It's your rationality that inspires me. Also seeing someone knowledgeable about something present it so well makes me happy. I've been watching you for a while now and came from Steven Mould's channel. Cheers!
Not "uncle"..."hunkle"!
The next time a Reiki practitioner offers to heal your ailment by simply waving their hands across your body, offer to pay them by simply waving your hand across your wallet. ... "It's payment in the form of 'Universal Energy', bro!"
7:24 *This isn’t said often enough!*
I remember a neuroscientist saying that probably golfers have innately less noise in the signals carried by their efferent nerves, helping them be very accurate, but the really unexplainable thing surrounding this sport is that our civilization rewards people who are able to put a ball in a hole from a great distance with tens of millions of dollars 😄
Same with any ball sport really. I've never understood how soccer players can earn so much money just by kicking a ball...
So vaccines on covid do work? You blind, bro?
The same civilization also reward people who are really good with numbers so I dont see the problem really
@@mystomachhurt9312 Oh, but i consider Wall Street just as much part of the problem. Perhaps worse, they’re parasitic.
@@raresmircea I'm saying good with numbers, not just finance. You are not very bright, are you?
I knew a sky diver who always jumped with his "lucky" parachute. He made hundreds of jumps and survived every single time.
The very first time he jumped without it, he died.
Shame that his reserve placebo chute didn't work either.
Parachute for sale:
-Used once
-Never opened
-Small stain
Which proves nothing, except to magical thinkers.
@@Vlasko60 you didn't catch the joke.
@@thorr18BEM If that was a joke, it was a bad one.
I would totally watch a "Rohin gives tennis advice" video.
Well, much more avidly than I would watch "sports star gives medical advice" video.
Genuinely curious, will you ever make a video analysing the metrics behind adverse effects and the rise of Myocarditis after waves of booster administration. It was would be nice as a follow up to this video, if you could be so kind.
Would be very disingenuous to look at the relation of MC with vaccination, without looking at the increased incidence of MC with COVID-19 infections. 2% of COVID-19 deaths showed significant MC.
It's always a treat to see another video from you, Rohin. The way you articulate yourself and the dry humor is honestly a lot of fun to listen to. On top of that your insights into this wellness trend among celebs was interesting to think about!
“Heals his body with positive ions”
ND is a patient reporting to the emergency room having drunk 35% “food-grade” hydrogen peroxide…
But seriously, Dr. Francis, thank you for posting this. Though the evidence may sometimes lead us to slightly different ideas vis a vis chiropractic care for chronic lower back pain and school closures for Delta, I really love your channel and your respect your knowledge.
It’s okay as it’s food grade, ND thought. As he drank it down with his gas station sushi
Trick is to have your gas station sushi and 35% peroxide snack inside a hyperbaric chamber.
@@palleppalsson see, you get it
Since the hyperbaric chamber deprives you of sunlight don’t forget to bring your vitamin D gummy’s
Can I just say it’s a lot of fun to have Chubby puns in the comments, I did indeed put the H2Otoo gag in specifically referencing his latest 😆
Read _Thinking, Fast and Slow_ by Daniel Kahneman for a fascinating explanation of why critical thinking doesn't come naturally and is a skill that must be developed and continually practiced. He also explains why the "rational person" of classical economic theory doesn't really exist.
A big chunk of Kahneman's work has been debunked in the so-called "Replication Crisis" that has exposed fake science in a vast body of psychological research. He, himself admitted to many errors.
@@ncournault I wasn't aware of that. Thanks. Time for more research on my part, I guess.
Do you have the time to send me any citations so I know where to get started?
As a yoga-loving vegan, I found your take of the connection between wellness and and vaccine hesitancy interesting. It seems to me like a big problem these days is that people are looking for evidence to back up what they’ve already decided to believe instead of forming an informed opinion based on evidence.
Trying to explain that sometimes their lived experience is not how the world works, or the world that used to exist is next to impossible
What if you decide against something and everyone keeps bugging you endlessly? Like your friend constantly insisting you watch a TV show that's "soooo good". Initially you have no reason to not watch it, but your own annoyance at being bothered about it leads to the construction and enforcing of reasons why you won't?
Its simply a fact that if the vaccine doesnt reduce transmission but merely severity of symptoms then it does not affect the vulnerable if someone fit and healthy doesnt have the vaccine. I've had covid three times and have never had any severe symptoms and have probably got a better immunity and antibodies than some people that have the vaccine. Now what is the point in me personally being vaccinated? Will it prevent me spreading it to someone vulnerable. NO. Will it affect how that vulnerable person is affected by the virus. NO. So they only people that need to get the vaccine are the vulnerable and thats a personal choice. It's like forcing someone else to wear armbands in a swimming pool just because someone else cant swim! Wear them yourself! Happy days!
@Donald Darko but the vaccines reduce the spread of the virus because you are less likely to get the virus in the first place.
And you as a person who had covid 3 times are also not really a good representation of the average anti vax guy.
@@twiggledy5547 which show is it?
I'm still waiting for a reality show where they get a group of anti-science people and put all of them in a house. The catch is that they are not allowed to use anything made by science, and all the devices just locked with a sign with the history and all the development of such devices.
That's a show I would watch 100%!
Would love to see that. What a great idea.
The quackery in competitive sports is a never ending tale because sometimes the pseudoscience is pushed from above. As a sample, whole body cryotherapy and kinesio tape are still refusing to die in professional sports, and the athletes swear for them as effective, ¿how those pseudo treatments are possible without the approval of the management and the complicity of sport doctors?
A little off-topic, but it still boggles my mind some troll on 4chan started the qanon movement. Talk about a butterfly effect.
Good video though boss.
qAnon started as a joke, but too many people didn't get it. Kinda like 'The Flat Earth Society'.
Or at least that's my understanding.
To be clear. I'm pretty sure Novak said he was against vaccines being forced on people to play. Not that he was against vaccines in general.
Exactly
Hell, he even helped people who wanted to get vaccinated
He's not against vaccines, he's against mandated vaccines
He has not been forced to get the vaccine. He had a choice and made it. Tournaments and countries have the right to make their rules. If he had chosen differently, he would be playing right now. Blame his magical beliefs, gullibility and scientific ignorance. Now we will see which he holds higher, his nonsense beliefs or his tennis career.
I have actually personally witnessed people changing the composition of food using positive thinking alone. In fact I did this myself. Last christmas, I said "these calories don't count", as I ate triple servings of ice cream and cake. And you know what, through the power of positive thinking, they didn't!
I honestly don't think that placebo works on me but I gotta try that cause I'm trying to stay in a bigger deficit now!
Do his organs adjust for time zones and daylight saving time? How does he get a clock into his lungs?
Actually, they do in a way. It's the circadian rhythm.
The human body has a sort of internal clock, and when we do travel across time zones, we get jetlagged, because the circadian rhythm needs to adjust. As for daylight savings, that also affects the circadian rhythm. It's why it's often reported that a lot of people fall ill whenever the clocks go forward - the body hates losing an hour of sleep.
The concept that the various internal organs repair themselves at certain times of the day has a certain basis in truth. But that's about it. The thing with traditional Chinese medicine is that it has a bit of a basis in truth...
It's actually why in Japan and China, traditional medicine is actually something medical doctors are trained in. You end up with a doctor who will prescribe medication... and traditional herbal teas and exercises. The logic being that the two are meant to work hand in hand. Yet... you don't get people saying that the medical system in East Asia is full of quacks.
@@vaska00762 There are people saying that and it is full of quacks. Asia gets passes all the time for stuff like xenophobia and other more immediate horrors, you know this. People just don't say it as often as they should either because of vapid cries of culture or otherwise being in certain Asian countries' pockets.
@@gausscone quacks are everywhere, yes. My point was more that at least in Asia, non quacks will make use of everything available to them.
Someone recovering from major surgery may, for example, also receive acupuncture treatment which help speed up recovery and help with rehabilitation. The acupuncture ends up promoting blood flow and help alleviate pain. Aromatherapy is being used in things like palliative care, as the smells stimulate blood flow in the amygdala, reducing the need for strong painkillers or sedatives.
Indeed, a lot of medical research has been conducted in Asia on mice and humans which do indicate that, not only do many traditional methods have genuine physiological effects on the body, but also that when combined with modern medicine, the patient outcomes are actually better.
Plus, we're all forgetting that there's still the psychosomatic aspect to everything. It's why placebo control groups are always present in drug trials. If you think something is going to make you better, there's a possibility that the brain will make the individual feel better.
Quacks differ from what I've described, because they reject modern medical science instead of integrating it into pre-existing knowledge. A quack would probably say that a macrobiotic diet will cure cancer. A properly trained East Asian oncologist will go through the procedures of chemotherapy, radiotherapy and surgery, but still also give the patient traditional medicine or treatments to help with the side effects of chemo or radiotherapy and assist with the healing and rehabilitation following surgery.
If the patient gets the right treatment and feels better, and adverse effects are mitigated, then what's the matter?
He surprised everyone when he started supporting the Valley of the Pyramids (Visoko, Bosnia and Herzegovina) where self-proclaimed archaeologist and expert of everything Semir Osmanagić does an excellent business, claiming that the area has a healing effect. The pyramids were not excavated, but "ancient" paths and an inauthentic area around the so-called pyramids were made, there are self-proclaimed alternative doctors and gurus... Djokovic became the mascot of the Valley of the Pyramids with his appearance, now Osmanagic is worried that Australia will destroy the mascot.
Sta ti seronja zajebavas! Djokovic je pronasao energiju u bosanskim pyramidama i dosta mu je pomoglo. Stvarno nije dobro da ti kao zemljak mrzis Djokovica. Sta on radi je njegova stvar. Treba da podrzavas svoje zemljake a ne da mrzis
Sramotis sam sebe!
@@FelixArdLykke Nationalism is a sign of stupidity. Only fools talk about 'countrymen'.
@@DenkyManner Sure.. Everything is equally retarded congrats
@@DenkyManner Because being a rootless entity living in an unnatural environment who is easily manipulated by globalists for profit sure is a sign of intelligence :D good for you!
@@maxuli21 You can be proud of your country and culture without being a nationalist. Nationalism is politics for simps.
You wouldn't ask a welder for advice on the best way to treat blackspot on roses so why would you trust the health advice of a tennis player over a medical professional? People make really weird leaps in logic at times.
Just want to point out, it's none of my business to care about how someone else forms their decisions. I am not the arbiter of truth and reason.
It’s hard to not feel discouraged as a health care professional when you study and work so hard for so long to have sound information to present, and to have some guy with a twitter following undermine everything just because he drank some Goop juice and decided he knows best.
Git gud scrub. If you really know your stuff it shouldn't be an issue for you to prove them wrong
@@Alfarius20 but morons like you follow the advice of the person with more followers and deny the science as left wing bias
Don’t get discouraged. Just get comfier the idea that you’ll always need to EDUCATE your patients for they’re full of quackery conspiracies and misinformation. But please, stick around - we need YOU’S! Lots and lots of you to stand firm against the waves of pseudoscience
@@Alfarius20 If you really knew your stuff you'd understand that's not how the human brain works, which is also why that purplewine guy who replied to you made assumptions and "argued" with a personal attack on you using that assumption
so... strawman and ad-hominem logic fallacies. :)
@@nikobellic8627 why do you act like people said it prevents catching covid. it prevents from getting severe covid.
Maybe Novak can play the tournament "through positive thought alone"!
He clearly cheats, he uses Telekinesis!
Or maybe remotely via Wii Sports?
Maybe someone who had covid in december and tests negative should be let the fuck alone todo his job. Multiple studies have shown that natural immunity is equal if not superior than the vaccine at protecting against covid. At this point is about obedience not health
When simps encourage HIV positive people and transsexuals to compete in sports, but are terrified of healthy ones.
@@Alfarius20 don't bend your backwards to pacify these brainwashed folks, naturally acquired immunity for COVID is always better than vaccine induced antibodies, and also the risk of vaccine side effects are greater than COVID induced for the young and healthy!
"He charges his body with positive ions.. shocking" and you said it with such a straight face I almost didn't catch it🤣
I want to say thank you for always managing to say out loud exactly what I’m thinking!🇨🇦❤️
That was entreating and scary in the same time...
May wiser than me conclude:
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
― Isaac Asimov
Cheers!
I.
Ooo that is a good quote, nay, an excellent quote.
Through the history, government which limited people's freedom based upon any kind of discrimination was considered tyranny, except in 21st century. Now they are called "intellectuals" by brainless maggots.
ahhh... That old chestnut, freedom... The problem with 21st century freedom perception is fact that plenty of people misidentify willfulness and lawlessness with freedom. All the privileges, all the rights... Non of the consequences and responsibilities. You can believe and follow whatever you want to believe and follow. You can declare your gender with a single sentence, you can sleep with whoever you want without fear of prosecution, you can promote all sorts of dogmas and ways of life (at least in so called Western Democracies). There was no time in human history of greater, popular freedom like today...
So, please, behave like well adjusted, adult human being and bear consequences and responsibilities steaming from your choices.
Cheers!
I.
@@ivanjednobiegowiec7656 And if you don't blindly follow guidance on your national TV station, like drink your pills and take the jabs- you're a public enemy No.1. So much about your freedom
@@democratictotalitariansoci1462 with all due respect mate, but you look like prime example of what Good Doctor mentioned few times in his vids. No place for doubts, civilized discord or middle ground deliberations. You are either in anti-vaxers, freedom fighters camp or you are mindless sheep following Powers that Be. That is sad-sad state of humanity nowadays. Extreme points of view from either side only.
Funnily enough, I'm working with quite a few unvaccinated people. They chose so due to various reasons. And, believe or not, they are still alive and relatively well. Have not be crucified or burned at stake...
Like great Polish bard of the '80 Jacek Kaczmarski was singing "the one that is alone is our greatest enemy", that will slot into today's world scarily aptly... Our way or high way...
Cheers!
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I used to be a pro sportsman. I can tell you that sportsmen are incredibly superstitious.....lucky socks, lucky routines.....blah blah. This is part of the refusal to see success or failure as marginal outcomes determined by tiny margins, and often outside of the sportsman's control. This highly superstitious nature leads to believing any old guff.......as Djokovic demonstrates clearly. The other thing which characterises sporstmen is a very high level of self-confidence. Sport acts like natural selection on those who don't have it, and so the successful have it in spades. This leads to them never accepting they are wrong.........as Djokovic demonstrates clearly. You can show Djokovic the science until the cows come home, but the arrogance of sportsmen, and this one in particular, is never going to let him accept that he's wrong.
Peter Brock's obsession with crystal healing his car is an excellent example
You're wrong. Also don't look but there's a black cat spilling salt behind you.
Djokovic actually IS following the science. He is young, extremely healthy, and in peak physical condition. Covid is not a threat to him. Indeed, he has already had Covid. So why exactly would he subject himself to the risks of the vaccine? There is simply no scientific argument which would compel him to do it. The ONLY argument is because Australia demands it, but injecting substances in to your body because politicians in a foreign country demand it is hardly sound science, now is it?
@@trybunt Crystal healing? That won't do anything for a car. If the problem's mechanical, take it to an auto shop. If it's a siritual issue, have your shaman smudge it with sage. Man, some people don't know anything about science.
@@scottwillie6389 Djokovic is 34, obviously not old but he's hardly what I would call young.
For him there is very little to no risk from the vaccine but a much higher risk from contracting covid; not a high risk but still higher than any potential aftereffects of the vaccine. As I believe Rohin has said before; some of the only reasons you shouldn't get the vaccine is if you are allergic to any of the ingredients or are male, 18-24 and only offered the Moderna vaccine.
If he wants to compete in a country then he has to follow the countries rules, he did not. He is getting punished for it.
If you go to compete in Saudi Arabia and go out drinking in public while kissing your same sex lover you will get punished for it.
If you don't want to follow the rules, don't go to the country, its really simple.
It seems that I am not much of a Djoković follower. But I think you are misinformed by your friend about Novak being a nationalist.
For example, on one tournament judge told him he is Croat, and apologized later on but at some point Đoković told him no problem, that is similar. We Serbs had a long history of conflict with Croats.
During floods in 2014 he helped financially and morally all the countries in Western Balkans.
I don't know what he thinks in private, but in public he has shown no nationalism against neighboring countries as far as I know.
I don't see why it is relevant or wrong that Novak is close to Orthodox Church ...
Being close to the political regime is bad for us in Serbia, but still not relevant to your video. After all, he can't fight against everybody, like ATP.
Beside that I like the tone of your videos, and this one also.
I think Djokovic hanging out with friends of convicted genocide perpetrators kind of makes him look like a terrible nationalist....
Those people you are talking about are dead or imprisoned. Not available for hanging out.
@@nikladk1996 You should see who elite politicians that run the world hang out with... Epstein had a pretty big book of names.
First time watching one of your vids. For some reason I'm super impressed at the length of unbroken dialogue. You've obviously written the script beforehand, but seems natural, I appreciate the lack of editing when you have the odd stumble. I'll never make a CZcams vid but if I did I'd copy your style. Looking forward to future vids!
When Harry gave Ron the vial of Liquid Luck..See, it works. You just have to believe
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Many "health gurus" are suffering from ED too. Dieticians call them out often when they present their disordered views on food or diets to others as a natural (and only) way of healthy living.
Buying rare food for your country and expensive supplements doesn't seem so natural to me.
So glad that CZcams suggested this channel! Thoroughly enjoyable! Thanks for all your work putting it together!
Great video Rohin, I would love to see a video on the placebo effect as you mentioned and the impact of positivity when a person is sick? Does it actually play a part? Or is it just something people say to those who are ill?
omg the "i haven't looked into it because i don't care about those organs" bit was too funny XD
I've just written an essay for medical school where we're expected to talk about holistic care and wellness. I've written about why the term wellness needs to be used with care and I've been nervous it'll lose me marks. It's quite vindicating to see someone senior to me doing it too for similar reasons. At least it's not just me...
"positive ions ... shocking." *stands to applaud*
Listening to your wide range of subjects is always great, I never thought about clicking on a video on that tennis guy till I saw ya.
I saw a video by pindex claiming the NHS is getting more privatised, I was wondering do you agree?
Thanks, have a pleasant evening.
One thing you didn't mention is that sometimes some of the wellness mumbo jumbo turns out to be correct. I started listening to your interview video, where medical marijuana was mentioned. I remember poopooing all the Facebook conspiracy theory posts about the wonders of medical marijuana and how it's being suppressed - only to find out a few years later that most of them were true. In fairness to people who believe all the new age / wellness stuff, it can be very hard to separate fact from fiction, without being an expert in every aspect of science and medicine.
Put down the bong, Cheech.
And without having such an enormous bias like this dr does.
Absolutely the best video you've made so far!!!
very interesting bit about Edwards. i had heard the part about the guy not competing on a Sunday similar to others much earlier like Eric Liddell but not the epilogue about him later renouncing
This was an interesting take on what can be a difficult topic to navigate without stepping on toes (too much). I think you got your point across without being too abrasive. Loved the insight into IBM and the stories you got from working there too - not something I expected but an appreciated tidbit nevertheless.
Thanks for making this video. It's an important issue to talk about and I'm glad you're able to simultaneously hold and express these two beliefs - first Government and medical responses may be (and sometimes are) imperfect and second that there are far more pernicious influences, people lying whether or not they are aware of it and crippling the public trust in one of our best tools to fight SARS-CoV-2. I live in Australia and there's plenty of issues with how the government (state and federal) has handled the pandemic and there are some very disappointing legal mechanisms they've used to punish Djokovic (you can agree with the outcome but dislike the last minute cancellation and inconsistency by the Government). But my sympathy for Djokovic ends at the point where he pushes or indirectly promotes vaccine scepticism.
Just know that for every unreachable person who "unsubscribed" or "wellness over pharma" commenter there's probably a dozen or more people like me who enjoy your content and want to live a critically minded but empathetic life. Anyway that was a very long winded indulgent way of saying keep up the good content, here's a comment and like to boost pump up the video for the algo!
Yeah, Novak got borderforced for political reasons, undoubtedly. ScoMo and Andrews never let a chance go by if there's political capital in locking someone up.
Well said, and thank you
I live in Melbourne and agree that the way it’s been handled by the federal government has been ridiculous (if not entirely predictable and somewhat entertaining).
But Novak is deeply unpopular here over this whole sorry saga, especially given how much we have given up this last year snd a half and our almost universal acceptance of the science of vaccination. If he does play it’s going to be rowdy and most of us won’t be happy about it.
@@MeppyMan I wouldn't overplay the "acceptance" of vaccination angle. There's many, many Australians who accept that while the vaccine is appropriate and useful for older or immunocompromised Australians the lockdowns, mandates and social shaming are an ugly blight on our history. Many Aussies have paid dearly for the unnecessary lockdowns, in many different ways and the goodwill has well and truly run out.
The likes of Kochie, The Project and about another 100 media morons don't speak for anyone other than their sponsors and the majority of Aussies are waking up to the fact they have been bullied and lied to by these maestros of bullshit.
@@MedlifeCrisis
Great video would love to hear your thoughts on this.
czcams.com/video/QAHi3lX3oGM/video.html
I was wondering why the views were low, then realized it was JUST uploaded
The link between Wellness culture and anti vaxx sentiment is so fascinating. It's kind of incredible how little we can see distinct social phenomena emerging until it does, even if it was obvious the whole time.
I’m really glad how covid has increased awareness of that link by so much.
I can't believe I hadn't seen the "Novax Djocovid" thing until just now 😂 Perfect. I guess sometimes the stars just align. Or the positive ions attract the negative vibes (Wait isn't it usually negative ions these people like?) Or the Kinesio tape... does whatever the hell that's supposed to do.
If somebody is full of positive ions aren't they positively charged?
There's something wrong with taping? I'm unironically ready to be educated.
It is hilarious. And I find it in Spanish (my mother tongue) even funnier: No-vac Yo-covid, "yo" meaning "I".
"He heals his body with positive ions (quite shocking)"
HA! I'm just here for the puns
Great video again. Well done and thank you.
Another great video, thanks, and keep it coming
Sport stars shouldn't be role models.
They're grown men that play child's games. Why ever shouldn't I worship these people?
@@joels7605 exactly!
His tournament in 2020. was fully endorsed by medical experts in Serbia, where far from the height of pandemic it was time with two weeks in a row of zero or close to zero cases.
There were fudbal, basketball matches at the same time, concerts etc.
He is definitely into woo woo but that tournament was not as crazy as it looked from the outside. Or if it is crazy it's craziness that was supported by the state and by the experts in Serbia (such as there are).
As for being nationalistic, he might say a "patriotic" thing here and there, which wouldn't even raise an eyebrow in say Britain, but Balkans being Balkans you might get an impression that he's particularly nationalistic, which he is not, and certainly not chauvinistic (his mother is Croatian, his father is Serbian he, never said anything even slightly bad against any group of people whatsoever)
The greatest medical expert in Serbia couldn't tell his arse from his elbow
@@VicvicW idk, I'm just a software engineer, all I'm saying Djokovic organized a tournament when health officials said it's was ok, and 100% of proceeds were for charity purposes so I think in that specific case the hate he got was misplaced and colored by the pandemic situation in the west not actual facts on the ground in Serbia
@@KalifUmestoKalifa the facts on the ground were that the government wanted to push the narrative that everything was fine and dandy because elections and "we beat covid!1!1!11"
@@kajamiletic3223 yeah, there was probably some of that, but there was also for sure a low number of newly infected and a very low positivity rate
And anyway it's a bit much from us to expect a tennis star that doesn't even live in Serbia take all that into account.
Why wouldn’t an unbiased and honorable professional doctor promote natural immunity over a vaccine when said person already has natural immunity? Perhaps because natural immunity is much more effective? But you’re right, let’s listen to Pfizer ceo and “honorable” doctors who created an opioid crisis! Smart! Let’s see what CNN programs us to believe next! After all critical thinking is exhausting, better just let them plug 🔌 into your brain and program you, right?
Every organ has its own circadian rhythm so I shouldn't be surprised if a part of each organs periodization includes a healing phase, anyway, on with the character assassination!. . .
Fantastic analysis with compassion and empathy. Thanks.
To be fair, pro athletes aren't valued for their mental capacity, they're just good at doing the same thing over and over till perfection.
Yes .. it’s really amazing. Everything a professional athlete does is completely based on science. When to practice, how to practice, how much to practice, When to drink water, how much to drink, loaded with __., drugs to heal faster, heal with less pain, when to use heat for injury, when to use ice baths .. how long to do each, steroids or anabolics for this, others for that, (ask Lance Armstrong) …. But when it comes to COVID… we regress back to witch doctors and charlatans …
It shows .. one can be supremely intelligent and gifted in one athletic talent .. and still be dumb as a stump …
Are you daft? Sports medicine is and always has been chock full of quackery, I don't know where you got this impression that it's all rigorous.
@@tissuepaper9962 … no .. I disagree … sports “medicine” … that’s a wide embrace … you’re mixing up the work “medicine” with “quackery” … I’m talking performance enhancement .. just ask East block athletes in ‘70’s and ‘80’s
Hey .. any cyclist in Armstrong era … all had the science “dialed in” … yes .. I’m old enough to still remember when ‘steroids” were considered bullshit … but I’m also aware that athletes know their bodies better today, that the Russians had the science working for them in Sochi … so … athletes .. the good ones .. they know the science … it’s the fringe hang oner that uses the voodoo science you’re talking about … that’s the not todays multi-million dollar athlete
Honorable professional doctors understand natural immunity and has read the studies that have proven over and over that it’s much more effective than the mRNA vaccine immunity. Sheep however or doctors who create opioid crisis just follow what the Pfizer CEO tells them on CNN.
Just wanted to say I love your videos. I'm not in the medical field, but I enjoy your teaching style, and your humor. Keep it up!
My business proposal: sell an idea that makes you think you're healthier/stronger. put it in a bottle with a harmless substance, sell it at a high enough price so they believe it and placebo will do the rest. But priced low enough to outcompete other quackeries that do actual damage.
next make a video on those footballers dropping on the fields
JUST A COINCIDENCE M8, players in their mid 20's have heart attacks ALL THE TIME durrrr... /s
I know it happens very rarely before anybody tries to retort; but it doesn't explain the fucking explosion in cases of it happening this year. The statistics and footage is out there.
@@perry842 judging by the number of times I've seen that used as a serious answer you'd think the football clubs would have serious difficulties keeping a team running if this would have happened for years and years
I know it's hard for most to understand but people who are on Novak's side do not necessarily share his opinions on the vaccine. People flock to his side for multiple different reasons.
Exactly. I don't agree with most of his opinions, but I do think this move by the Australian government is absolutely fucking ridiculous.
@@VicvicW Australia's government seems to have gone crazy since coronavirus started
@@blob22201 because covid is pretty much a death sentence to sedentary parasites who rarely take breath of fresh air.
Very on point my friend. Well thought out and verbalized.
Super fun fact, one of the members of the England beach volleyball team who won bronze at the commonwealth games in 2022 (so very good at hitting balls) has actually just finished his medical degree. Unfortunately not all elite athletes make a living being elite athletes (especially in womens sports 🙃) but being a doctor at the same time is pretty cool!
Very good work! We really need a deeper dive into the “conspirituality” phenomenon. It has been breathtaking how much grift and greed has infected the “new age wellness influencers”. This information needs to be more widely spread because it is actually causing real damage to real people.
Well when you're let down by doctors and alternative medicine works it doesn't seem like a con.
Like when natural immunity is ignored although it’s been scientifically proven over and over to have >20x times the protection offered for the co than the mRNA vaccines? You mean that kind of authority worship mentality? 🐑 you know he won the court case against him huh? Oh no you don’t? MSM didn’t let you know did they?
@@martint5340 natural immunity is why 75,000,000 people died in the plague
@@martint5340 the issue with relying on natural immunity is that people must first weather the symptoms of the virus to gain immunity. the entire point of vaccines is to skip the symptoms so that people have a lower chance of dying, lol.
also to reduce the spread of the illness, since viruses take advantage of our symptoms (sneezing & coughing being big ones) to spread rapidly.
@@Thunderyena your argument is extremely flawed and short sighted. Would give you a link to show you why, but CZcams doesn’t like that. So: “Why the CDC Ignores Natural Immunity” by eppc (Ethics and Public Policy Centre). I’m vaccinated btw and understand immuniology contrary to what most of you will believe reading my comment because someone who doesn’t follow the authoritive agenda most be a sub IQ Qanon yadayadayada to most of y’all. I’ve seen the “informed” herd operate too much to not know that by now.
It is so nice to have a competent physician provide a sane analysis of these insane celebrity trends.
Would you be so kind as to give us your take on the Robert Malone and Peter McCullough information that is coming out? I understand it is a minefield and you probably don't want to touch this with a 10 foot pole, but us non-medical civilians are just flabbergasted by the constant barrage of people claiming to represent science and we don't know what to believe anymore.
100% agree op. Definitely would appreciate someone actually addressing the information they’ve brought forward. I’ll be honest I’ve gone down the rabbit hole on google scholar and can only find things that support these sceptics. The only arguments I’ve seen against them are basic smear articles attacking them as a person. I’d really appreciate someone addressing the message rather than killing the messenger. Fully jabbed 24y/o here but definitely need convincing before I have any more
ZDoggMD on CZcams did a good response to McCullough. I don’t find his claims about therapies have any credible evidence at all, but he raises plenty of good points about the pandemic in general and policies that have been harmful. However, the majority of what he said on Joe Rogan was demonstrably false. Malone is a harder one. I’ve also watched his interview and found myself much less able to understand whether what he was saying was correct. Again, many sensible and good points. The more research I’ve done, the more I’ve connected some dots that he’s clearly lied (ie not just had a difference of opinion, but actively lied ) about some aspects, which makes me suspicious of other things he’s said, even if I’m comparatively less knowledgeable than him. But I agree with you, in these two cases especially, it’s really hard to figure out the truth
@@MedlifeCrisis Thank you SO MUCH for your thoughtful reply and for trying to illuminate us. You have a subscriber for life!
@@bengoodwin83 I found it quite easy to find a debunking of McCullough's statements on JRE that contained absolutely no personal attacks. It was at the top of the search results on his name.
@@Markle2k I've also found it incredibly found it incredibly easy to debunk cloth masks, the vaccine being non-sterilizing, the under reporting factor in VAERS, no definitive safety stopping point for the vaccine, the fact that the control for 12-17 year olds safety and efficacy had no severe events, but you don't see anybody in positions of authority admitting at all how they got those wrong.
If you have not done so, please please please do a detailed video on the placebo effect? Keep up the great work 🌺🌸🌹
A pity I can't subscribe more times. I enjoy your objectivity. Carry on :)
I weep intensely whenever I see strength athletes riddled with marks from cupping therapy.
I giggle, but at least that's not really causing problems for other people. A generic "it feels good" or "I'm relaxed afterward" is fine. Not gunna gripe with someone's harmless self-care routine. Overblowing it with "BUT IT CURES MY MUSCLES" yeah that's ridiculous. Charging through the nose promising cures, also problematic. Charging for a relaxing service with that as the promise, sure.
@@questgivercyradis8462 The issue with something like cupping is the opportunity cost. For example a poorer individual may choose to spend their money on cupping because they've heard of it from their favourite celebrity/influencer rather than spending their money on a conventional medicine, which in some cases will give a significantly worse outcome. I agree it's not as bad as other things of course, but just wanted to mention that a downside does exist. I used to think the same.
@@arghnews I've heard this type of argument a lot regarding many (imo) harmless superstitions, and I can't help but wonder whether it comes from a dispassionate analysis of the situation or from deciding first that there must be some harm and then setting out to find one.
After all, you can say the same about just about anything, because just about anything costs time, money, or both, and few people have an excess of both.
"The issue" with reading a novel is that it takes time that could be used to prepare oneself to succeed in life.
Time spent on youtube could be better spent doing the same, or perhaps playing some sports to better one's overall health.
So really cupping leads to bad health outcome in poor people like you describe in a similar manner to how reading a novel set oneself up for future failure and watching youtube leads to heart problems. I'm of the opinion that all of these 3 causations are absurd.
The difference is that no one is watching a CZcams video or reading a novel *in place of having proven medical therapy*, whereas they might do this with cupping, either delaying useful treatment or wasting their money. Important to differentiate between people treating it as a funky massage because it feels nice vs those who believe it has a deeper health benefit
@@arghnews Totally agree that there are downsides, especially on the economic side and the duped-into-believing-it-is-medicine side.
No way should someone go for cupping instead of seeing a legit medical professional. It isn't medical treatment. I think we're generally in agreement on the practice having problems, especially in regards to people using it either to mislead, or having been misled.
I really want to hear the John McEnroe impersonation 😀
I used to like being around waterfalls and spending time outside during thunderstorms but all of the "negative" ions weren't good for my spirit. Now I burn small bits of plastic around my home to release positive ions.
I have watched a LOT of CZcams, but watching your channel is the first time I’ve felt like I should be personally paying for a creator’s content, for so many reasons combined.
“ I don’t really care about those organs”
Hahahahaha classic cardiologist..
4:06 Reiki? first time I've heard that outside anime. It's usually just another type of ki/qi (mana, energy, etc).
Nope, I wish it was only that. Reiki is an “energy healing” alternative medicine practice that claims to improve health by waving hands over patients. Often followed by people who also are into homeopathy and other quackery.
Thanks for the brilliant and hilarious explanations. I wouldn't know about "Wellbeing Influencers" otherwise. A lot of this complicated, weird stuff makes more sense now.
Agassi is an amazing read. Loved every page! You comment on him was hilarious! 😆👌🏻
Jesus How the hell have I heard of him everywhere but I have never heard of Novak Djokovic's craziness
I am so glad you are talking about wellness and conspiracies. I legit think 'wellness" is a bad direction for medicine. It's privatized, and often doesn't involve medical understanding in how it's traded...
It'll weed out the idiots when real diseases come though. See how their "wellness" programs save them then.
@@LouSassol69er This pandemic has shown abundantly that no, in fact it makes MORE people supersitious to have real dangerous diseases come through with their randomized probabilities of disability and death. (longhaul covid is disabling)
@@LouSassol69er The only people it's "weeding out" are people who are vulnerable and need better access to healthcare.
@@PunishedFelix if by vulnerable you mean idiots that believe this crap then it's definitely classified as weeding them out since they're not going to go for better health care to begin with.
@@LouSassol69er really dude
always funny and informative, should be mandatory viewing
Great video. Covering my two all time favorite topics at once: 🎾 and health.
Just wondering if your beliefs now that we are in 2023 are the same as when you produced this video and many conspiracy theories have actually born truth.
keep wondering. His smartest move is to pretend he never said or did anything wrong.
Seriously. He should delete this.
@@mightytaiger3000 nah, if you hide a take that in future turned out to be questionable, thats just conceding defeat, better to just leave it up and let it fall into obscurity naturally, as im sure it alreasy has, cos it only popped up for me cos id gone out for a walk and didnt realise youtube was still playing when i went out.
Most people would not ask a duck to design a plane or a boat, expecting them to be experts on aerial dynamics and hydrodynamics.
The same people will however ask top athletes about their expert opinion on health and human body...
It's even worse: they would.ask.a _politician._
Ah right! By that logic all the doctors on our health panels against Covid should be virologists? Are they? Oh and what is the Doc in this video? A virologist too? Cause when I break my leg I don't go to the lung doctor.
@@abraxadabra4224 That's right. You go to a car mechanic.
@@olmostgudinaf8100 And now you tell me?! All this time I've been trying to go to the butcher's
@@abraxadabra4224 I think you may have missed my point. You suggested that a Covid panel is invalid unless everyone on it is a virologist (are they not?). I am not a doctor, only a certified first-aider, but I come from a family of doctors and I know for a fact that _every_ doctor has some basic training in _every_ field. A Covid panel made from cardiologists and orthopedists is _far_ better than what some people choose to listen to instead: populist politicians and vacuous celebrities.
If you were stuck on a desert island with a dentist and a car mechanic, which one would you choose to take out your raptured appendix?
He is being treated very well indeed. Anyone else would be off to Christmas Island in the middle of the Pacific, or if only short term, there is another secure facility in Perth behind razor wire.
To most people the hotel he is being held in is perfectly good accommodation. But he has never stayed at a 3 star hotel before, so from his perspective the place is cramped slum.
my favorite youtuber hits it on the mark again!!!
there's a lot of pseudoscience medicine quackery here in Indonesia. and a lot of the believer is actually people desperate for medical treatment. because of high medical intervention cost compared to their income or chronically ill patient that desperate enough to be cured. heck even the government funded medical insurance deemed to high for them although relatively cheap compared to the other private insurance. The problem is most of them are in middle to low income household, I'm not blaming them for not opt in into the government funded med insurance, because they barely scraping the barrel for feeding themself. and also quackery practice that "popular" or have some wo wo magic to heal someone is more convincing rather than professional doctor advice and even create a disbelief for proper medical intervention. Some influencers even promote those wo wo wellness stuff as a complete alternative for medication. and most of them that follows end up paying more in those "alternate medicine" rather than spending those money on the insurance and receive little to no benefit other than placebo.
Incredible wordplay in the thumbnail. Truly inspired.
Damn you beat me to this! I was gonna make a video on this topic! Maybe I still might
Make one ! You're good ate debunking pseudoscience and indian audience needs videos like these!
Medical doctor from Serbia here with experience working with COVID patients. My two cents.
It's important to note that Serbia has suffered catastrophically during this pandemic. Who hasn't though? But hear me out.
Due to inept initial response of our government (which is, it should be added, quite authoritarian and nationalistic), which had brushed away this illness as "the funniest virus", a large percentage of people simply paid no heed to this from the start. Combined with illogical prevention measures, non-existent vaccination campaign, constant flip-flopping of our politicians and chief doctors (I hardly consider them as doctors anymore) on the public health issue and manipulation of statistics (officially, around 12,000 people died - but there is research by independent journalists which points out that the likely number is three times that), and you get a complete catastrophe where only half the population is vaccinated, health system (which was barely working even prior to this) has fallen apart and trust in science and medicine is at its all time low (to be fair though, those last two points are issues way older than this pandemic).
And then you add Djokovic into the mix.
His vocal skepticism and rejection of modern Western medicine has been incredibly harmful to our efforts in sustaining the spread of COVID, chiefly through rejection of the vaccine as something harmful, unnatural and unnecessary. You must understand that the support this man has among a large number of Serbs is incredible. The dude is almost a messianic figure.
To be clear, Djokovic is just the cherry on top of a societal, medical, political and dare-I-say moral cataclysm which has befallen this country (as if we didn't have enough of those before). The chief blame is with our top political figures (some of which are, as Rohin mentioned, rubbing their shoulders with Novak) and various "doctors" and charlatans who are behind the efforts to battle this disease, while really being there only for their personal profit and political influence.
Djokovic as such is certainly a symptom of a wider societal problem in Serbia, but also of the world's problems in general, and this video illustrates that quite well.
But just remember that this is a man who has actively supported the harmful ideas which have led to death of more than tens of thousands of his countrymen, not to mention the horrible death toll worldwide.
He deserves no sympathy.
What are you talking about? I've never met a person that told me that it didnt take vaccine bcs of Novak promoted this. Matter a fact I've never heard that Novak actively telling people not to vaccinate. He just didnt vaccinate and thats his right. Truth is that covid vaccines are not fully tested and from that standpoint I can understand people that skiped this vaccine.
Hey Doc, fellow Serbian here. After reading this, I felt something clicked inside big time.
First of all, at the time of the Covid pandemic I was living in Asia, and had very close observation to how the governments and general public of various Asian countries dealt with the first wave. When talking to my friends, pointing to the potential severity of the situation (knowing what happened in Hong Kong back in 2008 with SARS) I kept getting this weird dismissive attitude, relativisation. I was in a kind of disbelief myself that it could go this far.
So, with it came the unintentional medical and scientific angle of discussion. The more we all learned about it, the more we kinda naturally fell away from the scientific consensus.
But to then discover that there were such extreme opinions based in what Rohin calls as quackery, pseudoscience and straight denial of proven medical science, just made me speechless. What you wrote here made me remember those recent times and that state of mind as well as that there must a clear stance on what you represent and which principals you follow.
Now, I can't stand in defense of what Novak is preaching and represents no matter how much respect I have for the guy sport wise. I can't dissmis him either, he is doing some things right regarding nutrition and physical conditioning, but man I just can't tolerate this delusional bullshit him and his wife are blabbering about. It's so much harm done to the efforts of people that were fighting the real fight. There is so much nuance about the whole issue, but this made me clear things up a bit. Thank you for your hard work during the toughest times.
Thank you all for your comments, it’s really useful hearing from Serbs with more informed views on his actions and impact at home
And, Milo's, I'd be wary of heart issues especially as a pro athlete, seeing as the actual virus won't harm you & will give you better antibodies
@@charlytaylor1748 at what university did you study medicine?