Halfway thru the vid I wondered how you were gonna kill ppl. Grapeshot and brain freeze sounded plausible but I NEVER EXPECTED THAT! good on ya mate. I am buying this deck
@@scettico... You have 2 main wincons in the deck, Aetherflux Reservoir and Golem Foundry. Aetherflux Reservoir will allow you to gain an insane amount of life and then nuke people for 50 damage (at the cost of 50 life yourself). Golem Foundry will amass an insane board of 3/3's. The latter is more difficult, as it can be easily board wiped, but that's why he included Temporal Fissure as a backup/pseudo wincon. That will allow you to bounce all your opponents permanents to their hands, clearing the way for you to smack face!
Excellent video Mitch! Looks like this deck is loads of fun to play. Well done keeping the deck to $25, that's an excellent budget to strive for. Hope to see more content from you!
My favorite deck to play. Its absolutely dirty. Definitely one addition I highly recommend though is Laboratory Maniac or Jace, Wielder of Mysteries. You deck yourself quite often playing this. It's just good security.
I just want to say thank you for this channel! Also, as much as I love how fast you're creating content, please don't burn out, even if that means slowing down a little bit!
Thank you for your support! Appreciate the concern haha, I’ve made a schedule now so I will be more thoughtful on when I release these so that I don’t burn out
Just found your channel this morning and subscribed immediately. I've loved Jhoira since she was spoiled and this is exactly what I was looking for in commander. I don't get to play often so a budget deck makes the most sense for me. Thanks for the great vid!
Locust God is a good alternate wincon with Jhoira. It's more expensive at $6, but it's legendary and can outright kill the opponent in one turn if it goes off well enough.
I was looking into this exact kind of build, considered Jhoira, discarded her for some reason, built a different themed deck for another commander, opened YT and BAM! Here you are lol. x)
This video has actually inspired to make my own Jhoira deck (sort of an artifact weenie deck with Aetherflux and Temperal Fissure) so thank you for this video
Thran Temporal Gateway, as well as cards to retrieve and recover it from removal are a great addition if you're looking to build this into a deck with an aggro wincon that can put an absurd number of very large and often indestructible artifact creatures into play. Works very well in Arena standard Jhoira builds as well.
Man I am loving the content. It's so sweet to see others making budget edh content One question I have though is how have you decided your commanders so far, and how do you plan on choosing new ones?
A fair question. So far these have been my own commanders. I like building around commanders that I feel like are unique, or ones that I can build in a way that no one expects. On choosing new ones, I am still going to build in the same way. I spend far too much time thinking of new decks and new ways to build with commanders.
Trying to get a few friends into the format (and Magic in general), so these deck techs have been awesome to share. Thanks for taking the time to make this!
I’ve been playing Jhoira for about 6 months now and making it progressively stronger and faster each iteration. She is absolutely my favorite Commander in the game. This may be a budget build but there are a lot of hidden gems in this video I’ve overlooked that easily can replace less than optimal pieces in even the most powerful builds. Kudos to you and great work on this video.
This is an awesome starting point, I adjusted mine for some infinite Mana combos by raiding a friend's trade folder, they may be over budget, but paradox engine and words of wind truly make this list really dangerous. Same can be said about vedalken orrery since it lets you go off at instant speed... So many ways to break this, ty for the inspiration
Awesome job man! While prices can change quickly, you've done a great job of researching and explaining the choices in the deck. Thanks for taking time to record with solid audio, great visuals, and intentionally going through options with the viewer.
I'm back, after considerable hiatus. I love this commander. The deck is nowhere near budget anymore, and looking to get even more expensive (Hello Mishra's Workshop) but this is the only deck that Ive found consistent and powerful enough to go all in. I did alter a few things as I wentand upgraded, such as throwing Reckless Fireweaver in as a semi-wincon, and Pili-pala/Grand Architect for inf mana. One of the tech choices I never expected to put in was Mana Severance, which has drastically magnified the decks consistency. Altar of the Brood is a sneaky good card, and combining it with Words of Wind and two "comes into play untapped" mana rocks is another wincon most don't see coming. I had to come back and just say: Thank you, Mitch. I wanted a deck based around artifacts, and card draw, and you helped me get a start with this budget decklist. She's still getting improved to this day.
Hey, just wanted to give a +1 and say that artifacts are my favorite and I did not want to spend another couple hundred on a competitive and tuned deck but saw this posted on FB. I loved the idea as soon as I saw it and ordered the cards immediately. I got the cards yesterday, sleeved it up, and won my pod today at FNM. After my opponent countered my reservoir, I kept going until I found elixir of immortality and shuffled it all back in and cast mana severance to make sure I keep drawing gas. Fantastic deck and now I want to tune it up piece by piece. Great job and keep it up! I will be waiting to see what else you can come up with for such a tight budget.
That is amazing!!! I’m happy to hear that you seem to enjoy the deck as much as I do! You will have to let me know what cards you end up tuning it up with
I love artifact decks. Ive built a Teshar, marchesa, and currently workin on sai, master thoperist...The deck shown here seems like a lot of fun..after watching your vids make me wanna make a bunch of budget decks from my stacks of commons and uncommons. lol.
Played this deck for the first time yesterday, all of a sudden my opponent takes over control of Jhoira and i was basically screwed since my draw engine was gone and i had no way of killing it to return her to my command zone. Then i luckily drew into voyager's staff, wich nevertheless made her return to my side, allowing me to restart the cycle and win the game 😂 was in 1vs1, but it seems the deck is quite vulnerable to stealing effects targetting Jhoira. Liking ur video's alot btw
Mike's right that was my solution too. If your designing this for black decks "search your opponents library for cards and exile them" effects can remove those bad eggs in a pinch. In fact a jesters cap in this deck would probably be pretty cool. Can't recur it but it would certainly help protect you from those control effects if you expect them. Throwing a homeward path into this is the easy peasy solution.
I'm new to this channel but I'm already hooked the way you break everything down so it's understandable to anyone is just great keep up the amazing work
I didn't read through all the replies but if no one mentioned it, wouldn't be a bad idea to add psychic corrosion from core 19. It's a cheap uncommon that syncs nicely with the amount of draw power this deck has
Definitely a good consideration for the deck, and one that I went back and forth on keeping in or tacking out of the deck. Ultimately it was cut since unless you can kill with it right away, many times putting this card out will immediately draw the ire of the entire table and they will focus everything on you to make sure you don't mill them all out. The other wincons also seem to synergize better with the deck as well. But everyone has different play styles, so give it a try and let me know what you think!
I just came back to this video because last night I built a jhoira deck on mtg arena and went on a tear. Now I'm hoping to do this in commander as well
Mystic Forge from 2020 would be an awesome card to use in this deck I use it in my Affinity deck and the deck just gets puked out on to the battlefield. this is scary now coming to think of it.
I love your content. Please keep it up. Make sure to pace yourself, though. I like your line of thinking, I like your creativity, and I like your level of competitiveness.
In making this. But what about adding psychosis crawler as another wincon? It can pretty much drain everyone out. And it will probably be free (as the artifact he is).
I have Karn scion of urza efficient construction saheeli sublime artificer antiqueties war reckless fire weaver and sai master thopteriest all as alternate win cons.
Just saw the video and thought this deck would be nice to build, then realized that its pretty "old" because of you saying Commander 18 was spoiled. Then I was interested in how old it actually is - turns out the video was released on my birthday! Now I really have to build the deck! XD
What an interesting deck tech! I’m trying to get into commander with my family, and these deck techs on a budget is a great way to do it! Thanks for the vids!
The $75 on the Spike Feeders channel is insane. Though Aetherflux Reservoir was the most expensive upgrade I saw from this, the $25 version here can do most of those things. Great decklist!
Add a "Words of Wind" and watch your storm go off and Aetherflux fill up as you bounce a sol ring back and forth from your hand with Jhoira out infinitely and gain unlimited colourless. That's before you consider other rocks with the reducers in this deck. You'll also watch your friends storm off.... for as little as another 10 (Words of Wind and a couple of Mitch's upgrades) thrown into this deck it can happily take on nearly anything.
I just ordered this deck and to me it's important that all the cards are from the original sets they're printed in (for me, it's like blinging out the deck), so I paid 5 euros for an Ornithopter. :D
Goblin Charbelcher is often used with Mana Severance. The question is whether your library will be big enough to kill players by the time you find both cards. Untapping Charbelcher with Clock of Omens would help it. Note too how Charbelcher allows stacking the cards put on the bottom of the library.
Future sight is really good alternative Jhoira in deck. I've played my version of deck reasonable number of games and there is good change to win game even if Jhoira would have been killed too many times to be casted again. Another little pricy but sick good upgrade is Sai, master thopterist it lets u draw cards and use its tokens as manarocks via clock of omens or produce mana if u have more expencive artifacts as Ashnod's altar or khor-clan ironworks. Dramatic reversal+ Isochron sceptre is pretty cheep way to get infinity mana out of our deck if u have total of 3 or more mana that u can produce with your manarocks on battlefield. All in all this decktech is sick good and once you know how to play it you can combo off pretty fast so i doesn't get boring to opponents.
I built basically the same deck as this recently when trying to make brawl work in standard and upgraded it to an edh list. Paradox engine is the single best card in my version, as most of you mana sources are rocks anyway. I've also found sai, master thopterist, as well as the locust God to be reasonable win cons, in addition to the resovoir. Scrap mastery, daretti, and goblin welder help return paradox engine if things go wrong too.
An amazing artifact that could be added into this deck is Blinkmoth Urn, at around .50$ this card is fantastic in Artifact heavy decks. It gives you colourless mana during your precombat main phase equal to the number of artifacts you control! It's only downsides is the it needs to be untapped (it doesn't tap itself so someone has to use a card to tap it) and it gives the effect to the other players as well, however in a deck that has 60~ artifacts you will get way more use out of it then they will 9 times outta 10!
Absolutely understand, wanted to give the card a shout out because of how good it can fit into almost any artifact deck (I recommend it in a Memnarch deck if you got one) and has become a staple in most of mine honestly!
I see to play this deck and everyone underestimated me, now people are starting to realize how good jhoira is and I’m going to start drawing more hate at the table :(. Such a fun commander though and since my deck is undefeated still I was going to start drawing hate soon anyway. Loved the video.
I just put this together and if runs so smooth. I didn't have some of the listed cards but had most of the upgrades. I would like to see what you'd put in to really up the deck, maybe not competition but if you had say 100 to 150 to throw into. This is the 3rd of our decks I've put together and they are fantastic it's unbelievable what you can find for budget decks keep it up.
Glad to hear it’s playing well for you! Would have to research more on what higher end upgrades to add before making any suggestions. Though I know Cloud Key would probably fit right in the deck. That’s awesome! What other two did you make?
I have wanted to try jhoira, and an under $25 seems like a good place to start. Enjoying your content. Maybe sometime in the future it might be interesting to see some of your decks play against each other as they are all build to be the same power and budget.
Thank you and that’s a great idea! I would love to make that happen someday, just want to make sure I can make them high quality with the right equipment!
I've seen every one of your videos but somehow missed this one till now. This deck looks really good. For upgrades wise, I do recommend Paradox Engine to untap the many many mana rocks. I also recommend Traxos
Just found this video, and i realized this is a good portion of my deck lol The main difference is that i'm Grixis, and mixing a few goals (Pwalker/proliferate deck, but with a lot of the cards that are in there for card advantage, including Jhoira herself and her pet). My wincon includes Mycosynth Lattice with Memnarch and Tezzeret MotB, instead of Aetherflux (Tho i do have that card as sub). The deck itself is not very good or competitive, but heck i do have fun with it (Sadly Paradox Engine was banned, one of the few great cards that i got)
I found this channel through the command zone. Loved you on that episode, I'm totally going to build this thing only thing I'm going to change is I'm going to throw just a couple big beefies in there there's got to be a few affinity artifact bulky guys or maybe some eldrazi
I also think a wonderful (If a bit pricey) artifact for this deck would be Venser's Journal. Since you intend to draw a lot of cards, this one can give you a lot of life for having a rather large hand, and thus combo off easily with Aetherflux Reservoir.
Future sight or alhammarret’s archive work as an alternate to Jhoira if, like my group, there is a ton of creature removal. I would recommend running only 1 or the other though as it kinda slows down what you’re trying to do with it. As has been said many times before, paradox engine and sensei’s divining top are excellent additions if you can fork out for them. Commander’s sphere, Izzet locket and Izzet cluestone are all good additions for mana fixing and, yes, mox opal is great as well but, again, only if you’re willing to shell out for it. Sai is good as an alternate wincon but can slow the deck down a little with what it initially wants to do unless you have makeshift munitions or krark-clan ironworks so it depends on how quickly you want to go off. Daretti and goblin welder are both great cards that, unfortunately also, slow the deck down a little but allow you to recur key pieces that your opponent/s disposed of earlier. An interesting card I use in this deck is scroll rack! It’s saved me often enough when I’ve drawn 3-4-5 lands and need more gas. Great deck guys! Keep up the good work!!
Wow this was nuts. I wanted to suggest this deck to a friend but I don’t know if it’s going to be their style. I just bought the cards for mtgo (less than $10) and did a goldfish online. It was turn 5 and I was going off. It was late at night so I ended up just hitting myself for 100 before too long. Had so many triggers going on the stack for every nearly-free artifact I was casting. Legit nuts. I wonder how bad it could get messed up.
I have no idea of you will see this but I watched the video you made just a few days or so ago about this deck and HAD to come watch this original video about it. I LOVE IT!!!! I am currently building it right now and am super excited for it i picked up a mana crypt and chrome mox for it ( My play group is very very competitive so I more or less need to use the more expensive cards for it ) I would love it if you could contact me somehow to suggest and talk about how to make this deck even more deadly!! Thank-you very much for this awesome list!!!
Clock of Omens is the golden pig in SO MANY DECKS. It's just this unassuming 4 mana do nothing that always seems to get involved with busted BS. From using it with Thopter Foundry+Sword of the Meek to make infinite life+tokens with any mana producing artifact to getting gross with Icy Manipulator to breaking the symmetry of Howling Mine to making Kuldotha Forgemaster even more oppressive, it's just this solid effect that puts a smile on my face every time I use it, especially when I'm using it for value rather than going infinite. My favorite application of it is using mutual mill artifacts to untap targeted mill artifacts to have better control over which player mills in Lantern Control EDH (Yes, that deck is unfun, no it doesn't work in multiplayer, yes Artificer's Intuition makes me feel sick).
I have built this and its obviously pretty similar. However im also running a reckless fireweaver, quicksmith genius. Gives you draw and a psychosis crawler affect. Also i run 2 of the 3 nifmiz dragons, psychosis crawler and a master thopterist that way it allows another wincon and draw In the more expensive end there is a paradox engine ( i have maxed out at 80 mana) and used it to fire fire balls at my opponents There is one wizard i cant rember his name. Bit on the pricy side but he has (tap)draw 3 cards. But i love the deck here its definitely one I want to play with
Given the low mana cost of most cards in the deck, as soon as you have one ore more of those (artifact) mana cost reducing cards, Helm of Awakening will help your opponents more than it will help you I believe.
I saw this deck in action one time and I gotta say I love red and artifacts but I absolutely hate watching the Jhoira player take their turn as it goes on forever.
The Commander's Quarters definitely true. I bought this deck in mtgo for about $8 to try it out. I might get this deck and then elaborate on it, but oh many, it wad painful to click through the triggers on mtgo. I was in turn 5 going off and had 4 triggers. Jhoira, the scry historic bird, the artificer that let you loot when you play an artifact I think, and the artifact that puts a counter in to make a 3/3. I can just imagine taking 5-10 minutes to actually build up enough life to use/fine reservoir. TLDR painful to play on mtgo because of trigger, but it was nice that it actually keeps track of them and how much mana discount we get.
@@TheCommandersQuarters well, gonna take me a bit to assemble it (only started playing in earnest at the end of the Dominaria set and about 80% of these are cards I don't have) but I'll definitely let you know how it goes.
Loving the content so far and I'm very happy to have found your channel via reddit! Just out of curiosity, do you have any plans on a $25 Infect deck? I would love to see what it would consist of.
Another great deck Teck!!! If you didn't include the commander in the price I would recommend doing a video on najeela as there are alot of great warrior cards for dirt cheep. And she is easy to build on a budget
I can confirm this. I recently bought a Najeela deck and first came up with a $30 list, then added cards I own, almost entirely for the mana base. I ended up spending $28 including Najeela and if I swapped out for a lesser mana base it would still only have been $35 including her. She's really quite effective and would go perfect with the decks in this series so far.
That's my next project then! I'll make a segment on $25 for the 99. Already have the next handful of episodes planned out, but after those are done, I'm on it!
I was working on a banishing knack, retraction helix commander with jhoira but this seems much easier. I was thinking to kill opponents with various storm effects, prowess, or altar of the brood.
Definitely a good consideration! Unfortunately Archaeomancer doesn't really synergize with the rest of the deck, and actually once your return your artifacts once you are usually good to go off, and can draw into another bounce spell if needed
I think this is my fav so far! Mayhaps we can see Xantcha? I've been trying to build her but don't know how on a budget. XD keep up the great content! :D
I’m just wondering would it be ok to take out clock of omens and put in paradox engine? I know it’s banned in tournament play but I usually don’t play tournaments.
This is awesome, and I wanted to build it for my kid actually, but even without some of the cards I already have (like Sol Ring) the deck is at least 70 dollars on TCGPlayer now. :-( It's still budget as far as MTG goes, but it's not kiddo budget.
not even close, well i guess those kind of videos spike the price a bit (went to tcg player for the cards (had basically none other than 4 or so artifacts, one being sol ring) and it told me something about ~90 dollars a lot of shipping, one shop wanted 20 bucks shipping, another one 6bucks for a 10 buck library of leng (channel fireball), while i can get that card on cardmarket for like 2-5 cents o.o i will build this deck, but not through tcg player
Just ran this deck through TCGPlayer optimization to double check and the lowest price I could get it to was $34.51 (including shipping), so it looks like some of the cards went up in price a little bit. Library of Leng in that cart was only at $1.09 as well, so you may want to give it another go unless you can get better prices on cardmarket!
Thoughts on throwing an Ensoul Artifact into the deck? Or just not worth it over any other card included in your list? Big fan of all your vids and analyses, keep up the great work!
7:26 Never have I had to wait that long for a Wayfarer's Bauble in one of your videos, you scared me dawg.
Halfway thru the vid I wondered how you were gonna kill ppl. Grapeshot and brain freeze sounded plausible but I NEVER EXPECTED THAT! good on ya mate. I am buying this deck
And your opponents never expect it either haha! You will have to let me know how the deck plays for you!
Paul Miller how did the deck work?
I may be dumb, but how the hell are you going to win with this deck?
@@scettico... You have 2 main wincons in the deck, Aetherflux Reservoir and Golem Foundry. Aetherflux Reservoir will allow you to gain an insane amount of life and then nuke people for 50 damage (at the cost of 50 life yourself). Golem Foundry will amass an insane board of 3/3's. The latter is more difficult, as it can be easily board wiped, but that's why he included Temporal Fissure as a backup/pseudo wincon. That will allow you to bounce all your opponents permanents to their hands, clearing the way for you to smack face!
@@Crash7039 I see, thanks!
Excellent video Mitch! Looks like this deck is loads of fun to play. Well done keeping the deck to $25, that's an excellent budget to strive for. Hope to see more content from you!
Thank you, I appreciate the support! Hoping to have some more out soon!
Nice to see you here Budget MTG Decks
@@TheCommandersQuarters jhoira budget edh deck
This is the most incredible deck you have ever made.
My favorite deck to play. Its absolutely dirty. Definitely one addition I highly recommend though is Laboratory Maniac or Jace, Wielder of Mysteries. You deck yourself quite often playing this. It's just good security.
Yeah this deck is crazy and can just win at turn 5
I love it
Would you say the new one is better?
I just want to say thank you for this channel! Also, as much as I love how fast you're creating content, please don't burn out, even if that means slowing down a little bit!
Thank you for your support! Appreciate the concern haha, I’ve made a schedule now so I will be more thoughtful on when I release these so that I don’t burn out
I would love to see an update to this deck
Just found your channel this morning and subscribed immediately. I've loved Jhoira since she was spoiled and this is exactly what I was looking for in commander. I don't get to play often so a budget deck makes the most sense for me. Thanks for the great vid!
Glad you enjoyed it! Let me know how she plays for you!
Locust God is a good alternate wincon with Jhoira. It's more expensive at $6, but it's legendary and can outright kill the opponent in one turn if it goes off well enough.
Definitely a good consideration! It's mana cost is a bit high though for me personally
If you can get the Improvise artifact, it is slightly less tricky.
What would you replace it with?
I was looking into this exact kind of build, considered Jhoira, discarded her for some reason, built a different themed deck for another commander, opened YT and BAM! Here you are lol. x)
This video has actually inspired to make my own Jhoira deck (sort of an artifact weenie deck with Aetherflux and Temperal Fissure) so thank you for this video
Glad you enjoyed it!
the good ol days when mana severance was under a dollar...
though the same can be said for many of these cards :'(
Thran Temporal Gateway, as well as cards to retrieve and recover it from removal are a great addition if you're looking to build this into a deck with an aggro wincon that can put an absurd number of very large and often indestructible artifact creatures into play. Works very well in Arena standard Jhoira builds as well.
That's a really sweet idea! I think it's an entirely different build though since the WinCon would change from Storm to Aggro smash
Man I am loving the content. It's so sweet to see others making budget edh content
One question I have though is how have you decided your commanders so far, and how do you plan on choosing new ones?
A fair question.
So far these have been my own commanders. I like building around commanders that I feel like are unique, or ones that I can build in a way that no one expects.
On choosing new ones, I am still going to build in the same way. I spend far too much time thinking of new decks and new ways to build with commanders.
Trying to get a few friends into the format (and Magic in general), so these deck techs have been awesome to share. Thanks for taking the time to make this!
Of course! Commander was the format that brought me back into magic, and it can be really affordable if you do it right!
This channel is fantastic. Please keep going.
Thank you, glad you are enjoying it! Will do!
I’ve been playing Jhoira for about 6 months now and making it progressively stronger and faster each iteration. She is absolutely my favorite Commander in the game. This may be a budget build but there are a lot of hidden gems in this video I’ve overlooked that easily can replace less than optimal pieces in even the most powerful builds. Kudos to you and great work on this video.
This is an awesome starting point, I adjusted mine for some infinite Mana combos by raiding a friend's trade folder, they may be over budget, but paradox engine and words of wind truly make this list really dangerous. Same can be said about vedalken orrery since it lets you go off at instant speed... So many ways to break this, ty for the inspiration
No problem! Glad you like it and were able to put your own twist on it to make it your own!
Awesome job man! While prices can change quickly, you've done a great job of researching and explaining the choices in the deck. Thanks for taking time to record with solid audio, great visuals, and intentionally going through options with the viewer.
Thank you for the feedback! I hope you enjoy they upcoming deck techs just as much!
I'm back, after considerable hiatus. I love this commander. The deck is nowhere near budget anymore, and looking to get even more expensive (Hello Mishra's Workshop) but this is the only deck that Ive found consistent and powerful enough to go all in. I did alter a few things as I wentand upgraded, such as throwing Reckless Fireweaver in as a semi-wincon, and Pili-pala/Grand Architect for inf mana. One of the tech choices I never expected to put in was Mana Severance, which has drastically magnified the decks consistency. Altar of the Brood is a sneaky good card, and combining it with Words of Wind and two "comes into play untapped" mana rocks is another wincon most don't see coming.
I had to come back and just say: Thank you, Mitch. I wanted a deck based around artifacts, and card draw, and you helped me get a start with this budget decklist. She's still getting improved to this day.
Hey, just wanted to give a +1 and say that artifacts are my favorite and I did not want to spend another couple hundred on a competitive and tuned deck but saw this posted on FB. I loved the idea as soon as I saw it and ordered the cards immediately. I got the cards yesterday, sleeved it up, and won my pod today at FNM. After my opponent countered my reservoir, I kept going until I found elixir of immortality and shuffled it all back in and cast mana severance to make sure I keep drawing gas. Fantastic deck and now I want to tune it up piece by piece. Great job and keep it up! I will be waiting to see what else you can come up with for such a tight budget.
That is amazing!!! I’m happy to hear that you seem to enjoy the deck as much as I do! You will have to let me know what cards you end up tuning it up with
I love artifact decks. Ive built a Teshar, marchesa, and currently workin on sai, master thoperist...The deck shown here seems like a lot of fun..after watching your vids make me wanna make a bunch of budget decks from my stacks of commons and uncommons. lol.
Glad you enjoyed it! Do it haha!
I thought my memnarch deck was deadly... this looks like it could outrun me. I need a minimum of four turns... maybe memnarch moves to the 99
Played this deck for the first time yesterday, all of a sudden my opponent takes over control of Jhoira and i was basically screwed since my draw engine was gone and i had no way of killing it to return her to my command zone. Then i luckily drew into voyager's staff, wich nevertheless made her return to my side, allowing me to restart the cycle and win the game 😂 was in 1vs1, but it seems the deck is quite vulnerable to stealing effects targetting Jhoira. Liking ur video's alot btw
Definitely can adjust it to your meta! Thanks!
Yeah that is pretty normal for decks that run engine commanders.
Getting your iname death aspect aethersnatched is basically gg.
Mike's right that was my solution too. If your designing this for black decks "search your opponents library for cards and exile them" effects can remove those bad eggs in a pinch.
In fact a jesters cap in this deck would probably be pretty cool. Can't recur it but it would certainly help protect you from those control effects if you expect them.
Throwing a homeward path into this is the easy peasy solution.
@@Altorin what would you replace it with?
Oh god bless. I'm building a Jhoria deck as a Christmas deck for a friend but I was struggling with coming up with some good win cons.
I'm new to this channel but I'm already hooked the way you break everything down so it's understandable to anyone is just great keep up the amazing work
Glad to hear it! Thank you!
I didn't read through all the replies but if no one mentioned it, wouldn't be a bad idea to add psychic corrosion from core 19. It's a cheap uncommon that syncs nicely with the amount of draw power this deck has
Definitely a good consideration for the deck, and one that I went back and forth on keeping in or tacking out of the deck. Ultimately it was cut since unless you can kill with it right away, many times putting this card out will immediately draw the ire of the entire table and they will focus everything on you to make sure you don't mill them all out.
The other wincons also seem to synergize better with the deck as well. But everyone has different play styles, so give it a try and let me know what you think!
oh my gosh my entire strategy in Magic is killing my opponents with Psychic Corrosion that is literally all I do I need one of those for the deck
I just came back to this video because last night I built a jhoira deck on mtg arena and went on a tear. Now I'm hoping to do this in commander as well
Nice! Want to share your arena list?
Mystic Forge from 2020 would be an awesome card to use in this deck I use it in my Affinity deck and the deck just gets puked out on to the battlefield. this is scary now coming to think of it.
I love your content. Please keep it up. Make sure to pace yourself, though. I like your line of thinking, I like your creativity, and I like your level of competitiveness.
Thank you! I will definitely work to make sure I pace myself
In making this. But what about adding psychosis crawler as another wincon? It can pretty much drain everyone out. And it will probably be free (as the artifact he is).
Definitely a good one to consider! I would say test it out for yourself and see how it fits into your playstyle!
I have Karn scion of urza efficient construction saheeli sublime artificer antiqueties war reckless fire weaver and sai master thopteriest all as alternate win cons.
This series is perfect for budget players like myself. I would personally like to see a Niv-Mizzet the firemind deck on here.
Glad you are enjoying it! Already have the next few episodes planned out, but you never know!
Just saw the video and thought this deck would be nice to build, then realized that its pretty "old" because of you saying Commander 18 was spoiled. Then I was interested in how old it actually is - turns out the video was released on my birthday! Now I really have to build the deck! XD
Just found this channel, one of my new favorites
Glad you are enjoying it!
What an interesting deck tech! I’m trying to get into commander with my family, and these deck techs on a budget is a great way to do it! Thanks for the vids!
Nice! No problem!
A budget Jhoira deck? Subscribed.
Thank you for the support! Hope you like our upcoming videos
The $75 on the Spike Feeders channel is insane. Though Aetherflux Reservoir was the most expensive upgrade I saw from this, the $25 version here can do most of those things. Great decklist!
Add a "Words of Wind" and watch your storm go off and Aetherflux fill up as you bounce a sol ring back and forth from your hand with Jhoira out infinitely and gain unlimited colourless. That's before you consider other rocks with the reducers in this deck.
You'll also watch your friends storm off.... for as little as another 10 (Words of Wind and a couple of Mitch's upgrades) thrown into this deck it can happily take on nearly anything.
A good budget deck, with links to the cards, with links to upgrades, equals the best channel on CZcams
This is beautiful, I already have most of these cards, so I’m definently going to try this out
That’s great! I love when you can put old cards to good use
I just ordered this deck and to me it's important that all the cards are from the original sets they're printed in (for me, it's like blinging out the deck), so I paid 5 euros for an Ornithopter. :D
Haha awesome!
Unlucky with the Sol Ring, that is about 10 grand
Goblin Charbelcher is often used with Mana Severance. The question is whether your library will be big enough to kill players by the time you find both cards. Untapping Charbelcher with Clock of Omens would help it. Note too how Charbelcher allows stacking the cards put on the bottom of the library.
Definitely a good way to go about it as well!
These are great videos! I really like the content you guys are creating. Can't wait to see more.
Thank you, glad people seem to be enjoying them! More coming soon
Future sight is really good alternative Jhoira in deck. I've played my version of deck reasonable number of games and there is good change to win game even if Jhoira would have been killed too many times to be casted again. Another little pricy but sick good upgrade is Sai, master thopterist it lets u draw cards and use its tokens as manarocks via clock of omens or produce mana if u have more expencive artifacts as Ashnod's altar or khor-clan ironworks. Dramatic reversal+ Isochron sceptre is pretty cheep way to get infinity mana out of our deck if u have total of 3 or more mana that u can produce with your manarocks on battlefield.
All in all this decktech is sick good and once you know how to play it you can combo off pretty fast so i doesn't get boring to opponents.
Definitely good considerations
I built basically the same deck as this recently when trying to make brawl work in standard and upgraded it to an edh list. Paradox engine is the single best card in my version, as most of you mana sources are rocks anyway. I've also found sai, master thopterist, as well as the locust God to be reasonable win cons, in addition to the resovoir. Scrap mastery, daretti, and goblin welder help return paradox engine if things go wrong too.
An amazing artifact that could be added into this deck is Blinkmoth Urn, at around .50$ this card is fantastic in Artifact heavy decks. It gives you colourless mana during your precombat main phase equal to the number of artifacts you control! It's only downsides is the it needs to be untapped (it doesn't tap itself so someone has to use a card to tap it) and it gives the effect to the other players as well, however in a deck that has 60~ artifacts you will get way more use out of it then they will 9 times outta 10!
It's definitely a great card! And one that I tested with a ton. Unfortunately it was a little slow at 5 mana so I ended up having to cut it.
Absolutely understand, wanted to give the card a shout out because of how good it can fit into almost any artifact deck (I recommend it in a Memnarch deck if you got one) and has become a staple in most of mine honestly!
Absolutely! It is an amazing card!
This deck has now more than doubled in price ahaaaaaa
I see to play this deck and everyone underestimated me, now people are starting to realize how good jhoira is and I’m going to start drawing more hate at the table :(. Such a fun commander though and since my deck is undefeated still I was going to start drawing hate soon anyway. Loved the video.
I just put this together and if runs so smooth. I didn't have some of the listed cards but had most of the upgrades. I would like to see what you'd put in to really up the deck, maybe not competition but if you had say 100 to 150 to throw into. This is the 3rd of our decks I've put together and they are fantastic it's unbelievable what you can find for budget decks keep it up.
Glad to hear it’s playing well for you! Would have to research more on what higher end upgrades to add before making any suggestions. Though I know Cloud Key would probably fit right in the deck.
That’s awesome! What other two did you make?
I am currently tweak a Jhoira deck but this video has me reconsidering some of my choices.
I just built a slightly modified version of this only like 5 cards i didn't get on mtgo for exactly 5 tickets so good budget fun for that too
I have wanted to try jhoira, and an under $25 seems like a good place to start. Enjoying your content. Maybe sometime in the future it might be interesting to see some of your decks play against each other as they are all build to be the same power and budget.
Thank you and that’s a great idea! I would love to make that happen someday, just want to make sure I can make them high quality with the right equipment!
I built a Jhoira Deck based on this video, and it instantly became one of the most powerful decks in my playgroup
Nice!
I've seen every one of your videos but somehow missed this one till now. This deck looks really good. For upgrades wise, I do recommend Paradox Engine to untap the many many mana rocks. I also recommend Traxos
Just found this video, and i realized this is a good portion of my deck lol
The main difference is that i'm Grixis, and mixing a few goals (Pwalker/proliferate deck, but with a lot of the cards that are in there for card advantage, including Jhoira herself and her pet).
My wincon includes Mycosynth Lattice with Memnarch and Tezzeret MotB, instead of Aetherflux (Tho i do have that card as sub). The deck itself is not very good or competitive, but heck i do have fun with it (Sadly Paradox Engine was banned, one of the few great cards that i got)
Finally got this deck together. Can't wait to try it out
sai from core set 2019 would be crazy in this deck. Love the video
Thanks! Haven't tested the deck out with him in it yet! Might have to though
I found this channel through the command zone. Loved you on that episode, I'm totally going to build this thing only thing I'm going to change is I'm going to throw just a couple big beefies in there there's got to be a few affinity artifact bulky guys or maybe some eldrazi
He did put in Metalwork Colossus but yeah some eldrazi might be nice.
I also think a wonderful (If a bit pricey) artifact for this deck would be Venser's Journal. Since you intend to draw a lot of cards, this one can give you a lot of life for having a rather large hand, and thus combo off easily with Aetherflux Reservoir.
Future sight or alhammarret’s archive work as an alternate to Jhoira if, like my group, there is a ton of creature removal. I would recommend running only 1 or the other though as it kinda slows down what you’re trying to do with it.
As has been said many times before, paradox engine and sensei’s divining top are excellent additions if you can fork out for them. Commander’s sphere, Izzet locket and Izzet cluestone are all good additions for mana fixing and, yes, mox opal is great as well but, again, only if you’re willing to shell out for it. Sai is good as an alternate wincon but can slow the deck down a little with what it initially wants to do unless you have makeshift munitions or krark-clan ironworks so it depends on how quickly you want to go off. Daretti and goblin welder are both great cards that, unfortunately also, slow the deck down a little but allow you to recur key pieces that your opponent/s disposed of earlier.
An interesting card I use in this deck is scroll rack! It’s saved me often enough when I’ve drawn 3-4-5 lands and need more gas.
Great deck guys! Keep up the good work!!
This is still my favorite deck you've ever made
Thank you for making this content.
Thank you for watching it!
This was great really helpful for me just getting into commander
Glad to help! Hope the next episodes are just as helpful!
I used this as a guideline for my deck and I have to say this is very very good.
Wow this was nuts. I wanted to suggest this deck to a friend but I don’t know if it’s going to be their style. I just bought the cards for mtgo (less than $10) and did a goldfish online. It was turn 5 and I was going off. It was late at night so I ended up just hitting myself for 100 before too long. Had so many triggers going on the stack for every nearly-free artifact I was casting.
Legit nuts.
I wonder how bad it could get messed up.
I have no idea of you will see this but I watched the video you made just a few days or so ago about this deck and HAD to come watch this original video about it. I LOVE IT!!!! I am currently building it right now and am super excited for it i picked up a mana crypt and chrome mox for it ( My play group is very very competitive so I more or less need to use the more expensive cards for it ) I would love it if you could contact me somehow to suggest and talk about how to make this deck even more deadly!!
Thank-you very much for this awesome list!!!
played the deck it's super boring, you win super easily then it's solitaire as everyone else quits
lucky for me i have a good portion of these, imma try this deck. thx!
Do it! It’s a lot of fun to pilot!
Damn dude, what a decklist. 10/10
Clock of Omens is the golden pig in SO MANY DECKS. It's just this unassuming 4 mana do nothing that always seems to get involved with busted BS. From using it with Thopter Foundry+Sword of the Meek to make infinite life+tokens with any mana producing artifact to getting gross with Icy Manipulator to breaking the symmetry of Howling Mine to making Kuldotha Forgemaster even more oppressive, it's just this solid effect that puts a smile on my face every time I use it, especially when I'm using it for value rather than going infinite. My favorite application of it is using mutual mill artifacts to untap targeted mill artifacts to have better control over which player mills in Lantern Control EDH (Yes, that deck is unfun, no it doesn't work in multiplayer, yes Artificer's Intuition makes me feel sick).
It is quite unassuming, and if you haven’t played against it, you don’t see it as a threat until it’s way too late
I have built this and its obviously pretty similar. However im also running a reckless fireweaver, quicksmith genius. Gives you draw and a psychosis crawler affect.
Also i run 2 of the 3 nifmiz dragons, psychosis crawler and a master thopterist that way it allows another wincon and draw
In the more expensive end there is a paradox engine ( i have maxed out at 80 mana) and used it to fire fire balls at my opponents
There is one wizard i cant rember his name. Bit on the pricy side but he has (tap)draw 3 cards.
But i love the deck here its definitely one I want to play with
FYI Mana Severance is currently ~$8. Love the deck though!
Yeah it jumped recently!
Wow so much work in one video, nice Vid Quarters!
Thank you!
Given the low mana cost of most cards in the deck, as soon as you have one ore more of those (artifact) mana cost reducing cards, Helm of Awakening will help your opponents more than it will help you I believe.
I love a good budget deck tech! Fantastic video!
Thank you! Glad you liked it
I expected Tidesprout Tyrant since it will make an ENORMOUS storm count without any problem :O
I saw this deck in action one time and I gotta say I love red and artifacts but I absolutely hate watching the Jhoira player take their turn as it goes on forever.
Yeah that can definitely happen with this deck, especially with someone who is new to it
The Commander's Quarters definitely true. I bought this deck in mtgo for about $8 to try it out. I might get this deck and then elaborate on it, but oh many, it wad painful to click through the triggers on mtgo. I was in turn 5 going off and had 4 triggers. Jhoira, the scry historic bird, the artificer that let you loot when you play an artifact I think, and the artifact that puts a counter in to make a 3/3.
I can just imagine taking 5-10 minutes to actually build up enough life to use/fine reservoir.
TLDR painful to play on mtgo because of trigger, but it was nice that it actually keeps track of them and how much mana discount we get.
I’ve had that same issue playing against Narset Enlightened Master
Cloudstone curio could be awesome in the deck.
Unfortunately it actually doesn't work with artifacts
Hah, not only is this the kind of Jhoira deck I was looking for, it even uses Aetherflux reservoir, been wanting to build a deck around that for ages.
Glad I could help! You will have to let me know how it plays for you!
@@TheCommandersQuarters well, gonna take me a bit to assemble it (only started playing in earnest at the end of the Dominaria set and about 80% of these are cards I don't have) but I'll definitely let you know how it goes.
Sounds good!
Calling the 50dmg a "ping" feels like calling WW2 a scuffle. Awesome deck. You won me over again,
I'd love to see an updated list for this
Mirror of the Forebears in one of its rules specifies that "artifacts" can not be chosen as types, so this letter actually works. I have doubts.
Oh man this deck seems to only be fun only so many times. For that budged tho, bulding it just to bring it out this and that time seems to be nice.
Yep definitely not for everyone! Can get repetitive with how consistent it is
Loving the content so far and I'm very happy to have found your channel via reddit! Just out of curiosity, do you have any plans on a $25 Infect deck? I would love to see what it would consist of.
Thanks! As of right now an infect deck isn’t one of the upcoming decks, but I definitely will consider adding one to the list!
This deck is hilarious and seems super deadly.
Ben Richardson that it is!
Well, I don't like that Jhoira but well, It's always good to see new decks!
Yeah she’s not for everyone, but she is effective haha
Another great deck Teck!!!
If you didn't include the commander in the price I would recommend doing a video on najeela as there are alot of great warrior cards for dirt cheep. And she is easy to build on a budget
Thanks! Might consider doing another series that doesn’t include commander prices!
I can confirm this. I recently bought a Najeela deck and first came up with a $30 list, then added cards I own, almost entirely for the mana base. I ended up spending $28 including Najeela and if I swapped out for a lesser mana base it would still only have been $35 including her. She's really quite effective and would go perfect with the decks in this series so far.
That's my next project then! I'll make a segment on $25 for the 99. Already have the next handful of episodes planned out, but after those are done, I'm on it!
I was working on a banishing knack, retraction helix commander with jhoira but this seems much easier. I was thinking to kill opponents with various storm effects, prowess, or altar of the brood.
W/ clock of omens you can go infinite in magical Christmas land
Sol ring floating 2
Casting 2 1 mana artifacts repeat
Amazing content, and on my favorite guild too ^^. Keep up the great work
Thanks! Will do!
Possibly adding Shimmer Myr or on the non budget side Vedalken Orrery to this deck could potentially make this deck very broken.
Definitely both great considerations to put the deck over the top!
Just looked back at this to see what is was worth and i could get it, maybe even with upgrades then $300(ish) WHAT THE HELL MAGIC?
Might i suggest archeomancer, to return paradoxical outcome, then cast it again and get archeomancer and do it again
Definitely a good consideration! Unfortunately Archaeomancer doesn't really synergize with the rest of the deck, and actually once your return your artifacts once you are usually good to go off, and can draw into another bounce spell if needed
This channel is incredible!
Glad you are enjoying it!
17th May '20
47,96€ from Cardmarket without basics.
Super strong for it's budget :D
I have purchased many of your decks.... but this one is GOOD! so Good My friends would rather play against Golos! lolol keep the vids going!
How about Lab Maniac or Psychosis Crawler as alternate win cons?
Definitely something you could try!
Also I just realized that Reckless Fireweaver is also just crazy in this deck.
I think this is my fav so far! Mayhaps we can see Xantcha? I've been trying to build her but don't know how on a budget. XD keep up the great content! :D
Thank you! Haven’t tried to build with her yet but you never know!
I’m just wondering would it be ok to take out clock of omens and put in paradox engine? I know it’s banned in tournament play but I usually don’t play tournaments.
This is awesome, and I wanted to build it for my kid actually, but even without some of the cards I already have (like Sol Ring) the deck is at least 70 dollars on TCGPlayer now. :-( It's still budget as far as MTG goes, but it's not kiddo budget.
not even close, well i guess those kind of videos spike the price a bit (went to tcg player for the cards (had basically none other than 4 or so artifacts, one being sol ring) and it told me something about ~90 dollars
a lot of shipping, one shop wanted 20 bucks shipping, another one 6bucks for a 10 buck library of leng (channel fireball), while i can get that card on cardmarket for like 2-5 cents o.o
i will build this deck, but not through tcg player
Just ran this deck through TCGPlayer optimization to double check and the lowest price I could get it to was $34.51 (including shipping), so it looks like some of the cards went up in price a little bit. Library of Leng in that cart was only at $1.09 as well, so you may want to give it another go unless you can get better prices on cardmarket!
@@TheCommandersQuarters Yeah shipping is brutal since i am german
also, yeah cardmarket is great, aetherflux reservoir for like 3 cents and such
Ahh haha that would explain it!
Thoughts on throwing an Ensoul Artifact into the deck? Or just not worth it over any other card included in your list?
Big fan of all your vids and analyses, keep up the great work!
Having tried it in the deck its not worth the effort.
Wow, this is spicy!
Definitely turns up the heat a bit haha