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Komentáře • 115

  • @Jimindorothy
    @Jimindorothy  Před rokem +67

    How many songs did you recognize?
    몇 곡이나 알고 계셨나요..?

  • @josiah566
    @josiah566 Před rokem +179

    For anybody interested in why there aren't many tunes after 1981, attention for jazz after 1981 certainly dipped after schisms splitting artists into traditional jazz, smooth jazz, fusion jazz etc but artists have continued to write. The 80s are relatively dark except for Bobby McFerrin, the rise of Wynton Marsalis and Chick Corea's later fusion work, but in the 90s you start to have the current establishment of great jazz writers and performers crop up who either write in the traditional sense albeit with complex structures that are difficult for more novice players to navigate, or merge their ideas with popular music like hip hop, rock etc - something not really done at scale since the 1940s.
    These guys variously include but are not limited to Joshua Redman, Terence BLanchard, Pat Metheny, Brad Mehldau, Chris Potter, Roy Hargrove, Robert Glasper, Esperanza Spalding, Christian McBride, Brian Blade, and now dare I say Joey Alexander, Emmet Cohen, Patrick Bartley, maybe even Louis Cole, Jacob Mann, Chief Christian aTunde Adjuah, Braxton Cook and Kiefer. However, arguably none of these cats have been around long enough for their compositions to age and be played sufficiently for them to be considered "standards" as much as students of the craft would perform them.
    Some suggestions (let's discuss!) for what may later be considered standards during this dark age because they keep getting called/played by students/at jams include:
    Got A Match - Chick Corea (1986)
    Voyage - Kenny Baron (1986)
    Count Bubba - Gordon Goodwin's Big Phat Band (2001)
    Crazy Race - The RH Factor (2006)
    Strasbourg St. Denis - Roy Hargrove (2008)
    Afro Blue* - Robert Glasper Experiment (2012) *specifically referring to his 4/4 rework of the tune as opposed to the 12/8 Mongo Santamaria original from 1959

    • @will-ti2qs
      @will-ti2qs Před rokem +4

      Wait strasbourg saint denis only dates back to 2008? i thought it was much older than that lol

    • @F0nkyNinja
      @F0nkyNinja Před rokem +1

      None of these examples are played in a piano style that was popular or even existed at the time they were composed.

    • @josiah566
      @josiah566 Před rokem

      @@will-ti2qs yeah! I thought it was one of Hargrove's earlier cuts, but it only shows up on 2008's Earfood....

    • @josiah566
      @josiah566 Před rokem +5

      @@F0nkyNinja My definition is just what gets called at jazz jams and what kids are learning these days if they're being borught up in any of the classic/codified jazz styles (bebop, trad, fusion), which this list is somewhat representative of (though it's far from comprehensive).
      But i guess we're starting to engage in a debate about what cultural space jazz should occupy, in relation to what makes a standard. Is it a codified musical genre that now has a "perfected" sound it is inseparable from, like classical music? If so, then these listed examples would be standards because they're popularly called at jam sessions and learnt by students of jazz (so-called) as we know it today.
      Or is it the heavily musical re-interpretation and improvisatory attitude applied to popular musics of the day? If so, then a host of neo-soul, hip hop and R&B reharmonizations and originals could be considered the jazz of today, like fusion jazz in the 80s and 70s (by this logic Herbie's whole 70s discography is seminal jazz listening, which it arguably might be).
      But also, swing musicians exiting the 40s found work as backing musicians for early rock and R&B/blues/shuffle musicians in the 50s, using their jazz licks and transporting it to a popular milieu. So is Elvis, early Marvin Gaye, early James Brown, Aretha Franklin, and a host of Motown artists jazz as well? One can't be sure. Indeed by this definition they might be, just as jazz was built on the Broadway and Tin Pan Alley hits of the 20s and 30s.
      It sounds like you're trying to say that the list is wrong because it doesn't capture piano and composition styles of the day - but that begs the question, what exactly in the popular musical landscape is jazz responding to? The answer is actually that there are certain jazz musicians closing themselves off, there are jazz musicians actively building bridges between jazz establishment and popular music.
      So i turn the question back to you - if the list is so wrong, then what styles should the list of "modern" standards represent, and why would they be called standards?

    • @nnaryo6323
      @nnaryo6323 Před rokem +3

      in my opinion there are artists from the old "era" that have limited recognition (some more than others). For example, the Japanese pianist Ryo Fukui is in my opinion a great composer AND he is great at playing what he writes. There are more examples that are a bit more known, such as Joe Henderson and Oscar Peterson

  • @yeasstt
    @yeasstt Před rokem +43

    I'd love to hear you perform some Casiopea pieces! While not standards, their music is some of the best to come out of the 80s and 90s. Plus they're still around and making music

  • @lazyguyy
    @lazyguyy Před rokem +26

    I'd love a full arrangement of "over the rainbow", it sounds fantastic :O great video, thank you :)

  • @ziqizhu7364
    @ziqizhu7364 Před rokem +151

    Giant Steps isn't written in 1956, it's composed and recorded in 1959, published in January 1960.

  • @danielaguilar5199
    @danielaguilar5199 Před rokem +4

    Im in my bedroom listening to this video and I don’t know how to explain it but it makes me so excited to listen to jazz that I just twitch and can’t keep still at times

  • @dhillpgh
    @dhillpgh Před rokem +1

    I apologize for nitpicking, but I would invite you to try a more historically correct progression for "Chelsea Bridge." Instead of alternating between E-flat 7+11 and D-flat 7+11, the correct chords are B-flat min-major 7, and A-flat minor-major 7. It creates a much effective contrast when the bridge modulates to E major. Many sources get this progression wrong, so it's not really that big a deal, but I figured you may be interested in knowing, from someone who has studied and admired Strayhorn for several decades. Otherwise, as always, bravo, and your playing gives me inspiration!

  • @brettbreet
    @brettbreet Před rokem +3

    Interesting reharm of the entertainer. It caught my ears by surprise!

  • @jazznao0304
    @jazznao0304 Před rokem +2

    That transition from Billie's Bounce to Conception.

  • @dinobucz
    @dinobucz Před rokem +9

    What a great treat to wake up to on a winter morning! Thank you Dorothy!

  • @ojacobsen3727
    @ojacobsen3727 Před rokem +2

    Good summation! It somehow always surprises to see where things fit and lead into each other. When jazz stopped being dance music, when swing became the norm, how simple love songs gave way to devastating ballads, how the lush compositions by Ellington & Strayhorn - and Garners Misty - happen at the same time as bebop is being invented and developed. Then latin jazz, soul jazz, funk & rock jazz fusion. Things that by comparison feel more like fads. And indeed the video ends about where it must. There aren't really standards since 1980, because jazz is no longer popular music - songs don't catch on with many people, and hasn't the same central, influential figures. Just a few songs, but it says so much - and you master all the styles so well. Thank you!

  • @TomRivieremusic
    @TomRivieremusic Před rokem +2

    Great playing and styles of all era's

  • @viggen2252
    @viggen2252 Před rokem +6

    What about now? Jazz is most certianly still evolving

  • @virtuoso_official
    @virtuoso_official Před rokem +5

    40년대?50년대부터 시작된 경쾌하고 빠른리듬의 비밥시대가 전 개인적으로 제일 좋습니다 ㅎㅎ

  • @minsang22
    @minsang22 Před rokem +2

    역사 공부까지 시켜주시는 ㅎ ㅎ 늘 맛난 영상 감사합니다🤤

  • @RuaILILIL
    @RuaILILIL Před rokem +4

    Reggaeton Chameleon is crazy 🔥

  • @user-ic4oo9yl5w
    @user-ic4oo9yl5w Před rokem +3

    또모 공연 보고 왔어요 ~ 너무 잘 치시네요 노래도 잘 하시고 ㅎㅎ

  • @bronzewand
    @bronzewand Před rokem +1

    Great video. "After You've Gone" was composed by Turner Layton with lyrics by Henry Creamer

  • @LeviClay
    @LeviClay Před rokem

    Love it (as always!) though worth noting, Django didn't write After You've Gone.

    • @LeviClay
      @LeviClay Před rokem

      and seeing Bill Withers... but no Stevie? my poor heart hahaha

  • @MrSina116
    @MrSina116 Před rokem +3

    God damn it, you have so much knowledge 👍👏👏👏

  • @Scriabin_fan
    @Scriabin_fan Před rokem +1

    I was hoping Ahmad Jamal's "I love music" would show up in this video.

  • @Apoz
    @Apoz Před rokem +1

    I'm in love with 1955-1981

  • @user-xz8jh7nw6x
    @user-xz8jh7nw6x Před rokem +1

    Caravan was written by Juan Tizol, not Duke Ellington

  • @SessionsWithMike
    @SessionsWithMike Před rokem +4

    Loved it! Such great mastery of multiple styles.

  • @moon_orbit
    @moon_orbit Před rokem +3

    I love jazz and you did a great job, you're so amazing!

  • @gnslrns
    @gnslrns Před rokem +2

    거의 다 들어본곡이네요! 토욜에 가보고싶은데 아쉬움을 이걸로 달랩니다! 공연 잘 하세요!

  • @hobbykeyboard-organman6221

    Great different piano styles in jazz 👍👏😍 merry christmas & a nice turn of the year 🎄🎅🎆 greetings from north germany 🙋‍♂️🍀🐶🎹🎼🎵🇩🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺

  • @GetPianoLessons
    @GetPianoLessons Před rokem +1

    Wow great job as always! 😃

  • @nailsamitov8576
    @nailsamitov8576 Před rokem

    You one of the best jazzy piano!!-best thanks and congratulations with Christmas!!

  • @nikitachekin1844
    @nikitachekin1844 Před rokem +2

    I love jazz.

  • @GabrielCabrera
    @GabrielCabrera Před rokem +1

    Awesome

  • @kijungkwon5937
    @kijungkwon5937 Před rokem +1

    오늘도 좋은영상 감사합니다🎉 16곡정도만 아는곡이네요😂

  • @friedemannstahl4136
    @friedemannstahl4136 Před rokem

    Great, excellend played!!

  • @Tovify
    @Tovify Před rokem +1

    Lovely !

  • @user-sd1xk6gu9x
    @user-sd1xk6gu9x Před rokem +1

    T T too short
    plz cover more recent years~
    love to see everyones different standard choices haha

  • @Ustas_Bolzen
    @Ustas_Bolzen Před rokem

    Thank you so much!

  • @kimbeomcheol
    @kimbeomcheol Před rokem +1

    갓비행콕

  • @gratefuldeadosaurusrex

    Can you keep going? Everything up to thundercat and domi/jd beck hahah

  • @Jen-ek4by
    @Jen-ek4by Před rokem

    Fantastic!

  • @mori-c2267
    @mori-c2267 Před rokem

    Very nice! I love this work!! And I want to listen your Garland and Evans. (^^)

  • @femiadebayo2819
    @femiadebayo2819 Před rokem +2

    Bravo Jimi, totally loved it❤

  • @icechanwu
    @icechanwu Před rokem +1

    Why there is no Bill Evans?

  • @kp_my_jazzlv957
    @kp_my_jazzlv957 Před rokem +3

    What is this picture? 0:29
    I love it❤

  • @Nedwin
    @Nedwin Před rokem +1

    Best history lesson I've ever watched!

  • @ArgoBeats
    @ArgoBeats Před rokem +1

    Stupendo.

  • @PianoStudioNancy
    @PianoStudioNancy Před rokem

    excellent

  • @jonibumbum5303
    @jonibumbum5303 Před rokem

    Sorry..as i know the chicken is composed by jaco pastorius?

  • @user-df7cw9gj5k
    @user-df7cw9gj5k Před rokem +1

    플레이리스트 하나 뚝딱

  • @guarrho
    @guarrho Před rokem +2

    Django Reinhardt was 8 years old in 1918

    • @josiah566
      @josiah566 Před rokem

      Django Reinhardt made one of the famous recordings, but it was written in 1918 by Turner Layton

    • @guarrho
      @guarrho Před rokem

      @@josiah566 I'm well aware

  • @marianoiqq
    @marianoiqq Před rokem

    giants steps is record in 1959

  • @GerKaiNeknete
    @GerKaiNeknete Před rokem +1

    Thats Ray Charles with Georgia on my mind :/

  • @chetevans9441
    @chetevans9441 Před rokem

    after you've gone 이 patric bartly 곡인줄 알았는데 아니였네여.. ㅋㅋ

  • @gunginhunningtu1504
    @gunginhunningtu1504 Před rokem +2

    超讚的~~~😍

  • @DustynLopez
    @DustynLopez Před rokem

    Where I can get the backing track of spain sorry?

  • @Francisco-dj6yw
    @Francisco-dj6yw Před rokem +1

    What about 2000's and 2010's jazz?

  • @nikitachekin1844
    @nikitachekin1844 Před rokem

    Some american jazz compositions arranged by famous russian jazzman George Garanian.

  • @fyziik203
    @fyziik203 Před rokem +1

    where's miles

  • @cool_jazz
    @cool_jazz Před rokem +3

    ummmm.......jaaazzzzzzz

    • @JLSXMK8
      @JLSXMK8 Před rokem +1

      Recommended track: "I'm Getting Sentimental Over You" by Tommy Dorsey.: czcams.com/video/cKQc-cbAvdQ/video.html

  • @brzozek9669
    @brzozek9669 Před rokem

    Perfect

  • @jzzyyoon
    @jzzyyoon Před rokem

    혹시 모든 연주곡들이 원곡 기준으로 음악가를 알려주신건가요?

  • @paolocorraini
    @paolocorraini Před rokem

    After you’ve gone was not composed by Django Reinhardt…

  • @goblacklist
    @goblacklist Před rokem

    Merci :) i love entertainment, black bird, chicken, ...two of us

    • @goblacklist
      @goblacklist Před rokem

      after u gone, misty, fays waller and
      Georgia :)

  • @leesd-horara
    @leesd-horara Před rokem +1

    13곡은 아는곡!!

  • @user-wv9uk9vj3b
    @user-wv9uk9vj3b Před rokem +1

    우리는 지금 샤빱뚜비뚜밥 시대에 살고 있습니다

  • @jackofhearts8451
    @jackofhearts8451 Před rokem +5

    2:50 Didn't Coltrane Release "Giant Steps" in 1960? And also, why didn't you mention any Free Jazz?

    • @Oxfordcolour
      @Oxfordcolour Před rokem +3

      fr, where was kind of blue, where was a love supreme and many others

  • @edsonfarias870
    @edsonfarias870 Před rokem +2

    2000?

  • @arturm.891
    @arturm.891 Před rokem

    🔥🔥🔥

  • @city156
    @city156 Před rokem

    진심 개좋다 진심 개좋다 -스콧 조플린 빠돌이

  • @maximillanmoseskawotjo3385

    You forgot beethoven

  • @jamesmitchell6925
    @jamesmitchell6925 Před rokem +2

    Why do you add those extra notes on The Entertainer?

  • @seykota1430
    @seykota1430 Před rokem

    피아노 몇살부터 치셨어요?

  • @firstnamesurname6550
    @firstnamesurname6550 Před rokem

    great technique but do more research in 'How to Swing?'

  • @user-pi8qq3dl3g
    @user-pi8qq3dl3g Před rokem

    Я сюда чисто за колтрейном пришел

  • @ize1000009
    @ize1000009 Před rokem +4

    So jazz died after 81? Sad… 😢

    • @Jimindorothy
      @Jimindorothy  Před rokem +3

      couldn't find any jazz standards after that :(...

    • @ize1000009
      @ize1000009 Před rokem +4

      @@Jimindorothy Then feel free to add your own favorites after that. Would love to hear what you recommend from the modern times 😁

    • @JLSXMK8
      @JLSXMK8 Před rokem +1

      @@Jimindorothy Yeah, that sounds about right to me. I don't have any jazz standards on my playlist from that era either. But still though, the stuff is definitely evolving. Oh, and you forgot "Take The A Train" by Duke Ellington, I think; That one is an unforgettable classic.

  • @Apoz
    @Apoz Před rokem +2

    I love that most of these songs don't sound bluesy at all! Blues sucks