What is the Swaroop of Prabhupada?
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- čas přidán 9. 03. 2024
- Hare Krishna
The Acharyas are not from this world. They belong to the spiritual world and come here to this material world to preach the glories of the Lord. So that by listening to them, the suffering-conditioned souls can get out of this Maya and situate Himself with The Lord.
In the spiritual world, all of Them have a particular relationship with the Lord. Some are Krishna's friends, some serve Him as conjugal lovers, yet some are in a service attitude as servants.
This is called the Swaroop of that particular soul.
When a Jiva in this material world, by the mercy of Guru and Krishna makes his life successful, he can attain His original position in the spiritual world and serve Lord Radha and Krishna in his particular Rasa. This is called Swaroop Siddhi.
The Acharya comes here by obtaining a Sadhak Deha to serve the purpose of teaching Krishna consciousness in this world. In their Siddha Deha, They serve the Lord in the spiritual world.
This Swaroop of our Acharyas are mostly revealed. In many authorised books, we found the Swaroop descriptions of all the associates of Gauranga Mahaprabhu. The Acharya sometimes reveals Their Swaroop or some other Acharya do that for Them. We have knowledge of many of Our previous Acharya's Swaroop.
But unfortunately, the Swaroop of Srila Prabhupada was not revealed anywhere else. Thus many people have many ideas about it.
But the Acharya in succession Sri Srimad Gour Govinda Swami has revealed to us the Swaroop of Srila Prabhupada. This has been elaborately discussed herein.
We already had this video published in Hindi. But as many devotees wanted it in English language, so we have prepared this. There could be many loopholes in our attempt, but we hope that the viewers will ignore them and try to get right conclusion that we are trying to present.
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Jayyy All glories of his Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Shrila Prabhupada!
Its so painful when God and devotees ignore our pain with justifications...😣😔🥺🙏
Hare Krishna
Answer to all your questions can be easily understood by an example
There was a king. He had a son. The king tried his best to forbid his son from being involved in sinful activities. But the son didn't listen to the king and one day he killed one man out of anger.
Though the king loved his son a lot he can't help him from escaping from the strict laws of the state which says tit for tat. He should be killed being a murderer.
The prince cried a lot and asked forgiveness from the king. The king was a gentleman so he wanted to give justice to the dead person and his family. Though the king didn't want the suffering of his son but still he has to do the justice.
Similarly we are all reaping the fruits of our own actions in this life and also in past lives. One may escape from the state laws but one cannot escape from the laws of the God because He gives justice to everyone.
The Lord has already given us the teachings of what to do and what not to do. Scriptures are the law books.
Being very kind to his sons the Lord comes here as incarnation and also sends his pure devotees to spread the glories of the Lord.
But still if the adamant sons don't listen to that and engage in sinful activities forgetting the lord and then when the reactions come to him for his past sinful activities may be of previous lives, he cries to save himself. But God has to do justice.
Therefore Shastras says rather than complaining one should tolerate the problems that comes to him by our good or bad fortune and always try to become Krsna conscious.
Thank you
Hare Krishna
@@AchintyaBhakti
Hare krishna 🥺🙏
Thank you for replying.
BUT I already know all of that...
SORRY BUT YOU Didn't understand what I was saying....
I already know all philosophical justifications of cruelty of hell given by god in hell🥺
@@AchintyaBhakti
Very Sorry BUT‼️‼️🥺🙏🙏🙏
JUSTIFICATION CAN PROTECT EVEN THE MOST HORRIBLE THING...
And
PAIN IS MEANINGLESS
EVERYONE DESERVES HAPPINESS
I can only BEG to God and devotees to STOP GLORIFYING CRUEL PAIN ....
VERYY SORRY BUT your points ARE ONLY HALF TRUTH to suit GOD'S SIDE..
Secondly, I can counter your points from within the vaishnav philosophy .....
But mine and Non-devotees' s traumatic pain is insignificant for all powerful God and devotees ...
God and devotees can do anything to us and Justify very horribly...
We are NON-SIGNIFIACNT....
We are meant to just listen SHAMELESS HORRIBLE HELL TORTURES philosophical JUSTIFICATIONs ...😖😣🥺
God and devotees are all powerful.
God can torture us with justifications.
WE can just cry only..😢
Very sorry prabhuji I didn't meant to hurt you ...
I already discussed with iskcon devotees.
But still I CANNOT AGREE at all with justification of pain and Justification of leaving many living entities in this world.....
I heard so much of RAREST PHILOSOPHIES from other vaishnav sampraday (from iskcon devotees) which are so shocking traumatic revelations about god personality....
BUT different prabhuji have different opinions on it....
So after alll
RESCUING ALL DIRECTLY and permanently is the Only and only thing I scream for....
@@channel_ampm Iam very happy and thankful that there are people like you exist in this world. who are so much concerned for the well being and happiness of others.🙏🙇
The fact that you know pain and understand it... is a clear sign of how much strong your heart is. How much of a strong soul you are.
But my friend if by reading all shastras your conclusions are this much negative .. i really will say that don't conclude yet.
you may or may not change the whole world... but you can definitely change the world of a person..It is because you know pain you know how much love this world needs. Then how can pain be meaningless if it brought so much care and love out of you.
yes he created hell but he also created heaven too
he created material world but also the spiritual world
he created fire that can burn the world down
but also the same fire that keep us warm during winter nights
I am not from iskcon iam just a normal guy.. neither i read shastras like i do
But i do respect all iskcon all acharyas all scriptures all sampradayas all devotees that ever existed.
he said it was dukhalayam in the gita but next he also gave the solution for it to have vairagya... you know all of it.
I think and believe that all the acharyas all the devotees are holding your hand still.... krishna is still holding your hand....
my wish for you is that do not conclude yet. this world may be dukhalayam but it's not worthless and meaningless... we still have each other... we still have you. we have KRISHNA 🙏❤️
Everyone wants to end his pain...‼️🥺
Everyone screams for a DIRECT rescue and NOT FOR the difficult spiritual path with LOW SUCCCES RATE..
When a children(i.e.living entities)are burning in fire (i.e.cruel pain) and screaming in trauma for rescue then parents(God)must directly rescue them instead of telling the suffering child that his wish to end his pain is not enough ..
I have seen so many living beings crying in traumatic cruel pain BUT rarely any RESCUE done BY GOD .
INSTEAD in the reply for screams for rescue God ONLY gave DIFFICULT spiritual paths all of them having "very-very-very-low success rates" 🥺🥺😣😖😖🥺🥺🥺
I only and only cry hoplessly that my beloved parents God rescue "ALL living entities" "DIRECTLY" and "permanently"
🥺🙏
What about us ?(living entities, bounded in material world)
Are we in spiritual world like prabhupad and came to here in material world for enjoyment , forgetting krishna ?
Please clarify this doubt.why we are in this material world. before where we are ? Why we have to go spiritual world ?who kept us in dukhalayam and asasvatam world and again why preaching us to go spiritual world
Hare Krishna
This is a very controversial topic in our society. But we can tell you what Srila Gurudev's teaching on it. Gurudev has said that we Jiva were never ever in the spiritual world. Yad gatwa na nivartante, once a person goes there will never falls down. Prabhupada and Acharya comes to this material world out of their own choice being compassionate to the conditioned souls. We choose to forget Krsna so we are here and when we will become Krsna conscious we can go to Him.
For more information on this you can read the newly published book of Sri Srimad Gaur Govind Swami Maharaj
Envy The competitor of Divine Love
Hare Krishna
@@AchintyaBhakti Hare Krishna prji. Aapke is reply ne kaafi confuse kar diya. Iskcon mein sab devotees alag alag kyu bta rahe h ? Koi keh raha h ki hum spiritual world se aaye h becoz we wanted to enjoy independently aur koi keh raha h ki hum kabhi spiritual world mein the hi nhi kiski sune aur kiski nhi ?? HG Radheyshyam prji se bhi kisine ye same question pucha tha to unhone us devotee ko ek pdf di thi jisme HG Radheyshyam prji ne prove Kiya hai sabhi acharyas ka reference dekar ke ki hum spiritual world se hi gire hai ? Ab kiski baat maane aur kiski nahi ? Iskcon ke devotees hi sab alag alag baatein btate hai please kuch to boliyega ispar please.
Hare Krishna prabhuji
Pranaam
@@Bhavya___ Hare Krishna
Confusion kab hota hai, jab hum speculation karte hain. Agar hum authority ko accept karen to koi confusion nahi hai.
This topic is controversial because we interpret the authority in our own ways. And that is because we are not pure devotees and thus we have not seen the spiritual world or in other words we have no access there, so we interpret according to the guidance of our mind. It is true that many devotees derive many meanings to what Prabhupad has said. But Prabhupad has nowhere written like in Srimad Bhagavatam or other of His books that we have come from the spiritual world.
If we try to see the truth by our own endeavour we will certainly fail because spiritual life is srouta paramparjya, the knowledge comes descending from the authority.
We accept Gour Govind Swami Maharaj as an authority and we just accept what He clearly explained to us the real meaning of what Prabhupad has said.
So we accept it and present that as it is.
Veryy SORRY BUT‼️😣🥺🙏🙏🙏
ShriKrishnaji why you are LIKE THIS. After reading so many SHASTRA describing horrible HELLS made by you and you are justifying SO MUCH PAIN WITH JUSTIFICATION .. HOW can be you so much harsh?‼️🥺😣🙏
Let's take example.
We are many children.
Most of them caught fire(non-devotees) and screaming in inhumane pain
But I see MY PARENTS (GOD)and HIS FEW CHILDREN (Devotees) are standing and STARING and NOT EXTENGUISH THOSE FIRE...
So seeing this , those BURNING children(tortured NON-DEVOTEESS) got more shocked as their beloved parents(god) and brothers(devotees) areJUST STANDING AND NOT HELPING them and in "trauma" they cursed their parents (god)and brothers(devotees) ....
So now instead of RESCUING them PARENTS(god) AND BROTHERS(devotees) got angry AND stabbed with knives and beaten with hammers (i.e.hell for offences towards them)
those already burning child(Non-devotees) got SEVERELY TRAUMATISED by seeing so much their "'expected to be beloved" parents(god) and brothers(devotees)
are so cruel towrads them(Non devotees) just because they cursed them(devotees and god)in trauma....
Now those severly stabbed and beatened with hammer children( Non-devotees)are CRYING in so much pain (can't described in words) TO JUST RESCUE EVERYONE PLEASEE.....
But parents(god) and brothers (devotees) still NOT RESCUING those burning children and JUST JUSTIFYING BENEFITS OF THE PAIN to those BURNING CHILDREN ...
Finally they(god and devotees) started enjoying themselves while ON OTHER HAND those BURNING children are just watching such CRUELEST behavior FROM the EXPECTED to be loving parents(god) and brother(devotees)
Moreover when all of those BURNING CHILDREN(non-devotees)screaming for rescue and cursed then they got stabbed (punishment for insulting God or devotees)
I am feeling so HEAVILY SHOCKED when I see my parents(god) and brothers(devotees) NOT RESCUING RATHER JUST justifying their conditions......