The State of 3D Movies in 2024 | Is there any hope for the format?
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
- This is a comprehensive guide on how to enjoy 3D content in your home. I discuss the current state of 3D as a format, what your need to enjoy 3D at home, and ways to get more 3D including making your own.
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Chapter:
00:00 The current state of 3D
02:51 3D Blu-ray releases
05:14 3D requirements
08:03 3D glasses
11:58 How is 3D in my theater?
13:00 MakeMKV
17:22 Making 3D movies
24:49 3D demo in Zidoo
29:47 Is there hope for 3D? - Věda a technologie
I'm with you, love 3D on my projector.
That’s precisely why I had to make this video.
I always love to see positivity towards 3D, a very unfairly maligned format: Almost every film I have in both 4k UHD and 3D Blu-ray, I'll prefer to watch the latter every time. Incidentally, the best 3D I've ever seen in the home (not in my home, unfortunately), is projected *passive* 3D through a pair of projectors with Infitec lenses & glasses (as per Dolby 3D). It's relatively easy to do, but requires very careful setting up. I may yet try it one day with a pair of bright 1080 projectors.
I have heard really good things about passive glasses setups. Would like to experience it one day.
@@Upscaled_Reviewsthey came out with it at entirety the wrong time 4k were just coming to the market and with oled and hdr it wasn't going to happen but if the whole 3d would of happened today in 2024 vs 2012 I think it would of gone over much better 4k and hdr has matured there isn't much to add to it anymore and with 4k 3d even if using passive displays you would of gotten full hd or close to 2k per eye and tvs now use standard Bluetooth so I Don't think you would of had the glasses war for active shutter displays. Then there is HDMI 1.4 and displayport also didn't have the bandwidth capability to handle 4k 3d natively. So overall the tv and consumer electronics and studios just botched the timing with 3d consumer tech at completely the wrong moment the 2019 to early 2020s would of been a better rollout for this technology it would of also gone along perfectly with the rise of 3d virtual reality
I still have my 3d tv and worry about the day it finally dies. I did see a kickstarter once that was planning on producing a box that can convert your regular tv into a 3d tv, but unfortunately, I can't find the page anymore.
AWOL has 3D with their Laser Projector UST, you have to order the glasses separately.
Yes 3D is awesome😊
I've recently picked up another 3D TV OLED from online. And I currently have another 120 movies in 3D in my collection I've yet to see you.
I love 3D movies.
I really getting back into them big time. I think of them as experiences.
Nicely done. I have a 175” screen in my basement since 2015 and that’s when I started collecting 3D. I’m a massive fan now with 150-200 3D films. The size of the screen really makes these 3D films spectacular. All my friends come over frequently to watch movies. Still collecting every movie that I can in 2024 as this format is dying. It will never be dead in my house.
I also have an Epson projector but I use the Samsung SSG-4100GB coin battery glasses. I had rechargeable ones but the batteries have died and haven’t gone down the rabbit hole of trying to replace them. I prefer the coin battery ones as it’s very easy to replace and I’ll stockpile extra batteries.
I highly recommend Spiderman Into the Spiderverse 3D if you can find one (limited release - I think only Austrailia?). It’s a top ten movie for 3D depth and immersion.
Glad to know there are others out there. I actually do have one pair of Samsung glasses with the coin battery. It’s super convenient for sure. I have spider-man into the spiderverse in 3D but haven’t sat down to see. I’ve been rewatching ready player one and it’s so good in 3D.
I adore 3D. Thanks to the application 4XVR on meta quest, I can even watch stereo films on the go in full-res MVC. It's awesome. When my 2010 era 3DTV dies I'll get a projector, maybe an awol.
I find that my Epson had too much cross-talk. I think Optoma does a better job at 3d. Due to using DLP
I just recently got into 3D movies after getting the Quest 3, and it has been extremely disappointing to see how little there is these days. Not to mention that a good majority of the movies that exist in 3D that I really love were not natively filmed in 3D. I'm glad I finally came to my senses about how awesome 3D really is, and I really hope others start to as well now that VR is getting so much better.
The best thing we can do for 3d is to go see 3d movies when they're released in theaters. We have to vote with our wallets but it's probably too late since the infrastructure to watch them at home has all but vanished.
@@Upscaled_Reviews I completely agree with everything but your last point. I think with VR, the infrastructure to watch at home is finally becoming accessible to the average person. I have high hopes that 3D will have a comeback within the next 5 years or so because of VR. Here's to hoping!
3d movies in VR like the Quest 2 and up looks really good too.
I really want to see that one day. You have to make your own media though right? There are no streaming services with 3d right?
I honestly think the movie industry does itself a service not to support 3D from the get-go... if we don't shoot in 3D, then depth information will forever be lost in those movies. These days when we have VR/AR headsets as well as passive glass-free 3D displays even starting to show up in the somewhat niche laptop space. I think a movies will do themselves a disservice not to have it. Same goes for the video game industry. Games designed with 3D screen support can easily be translated into VR. So by having that feature initially and sales can tap into the market of 3D-screens/projectors, as well as the VR/AR-space. I have an old LG 1080p 3D TV that use passive glasses. it still super comfortable and looks great. I really enjoy playing Nintendo 3DS games through emulator and enjoy them on a big screen, with 3D! Same goes for VR, although I find it less comfortable watching movies with a bulky headset.
I have a (2) projector system..Panasonic pt ae 8000 which I use for bluray 3-d, laserdisc and vhs playback/..What I love about the Panny is that it does 2d to 3d conversion..so every movie in bluray can be top to bottom..or side by side..I believe that your Epson can do the same??
The 6050ub doesn’t have 2d to 3d conversion. I wish it did.
I bought the first 3d tv around my area as far as I can tell from best buy, a samsung 3d plasma and br player. It was good but the movies were prices like double so I didn't buy as many. Also the active glasses bothered me soemtimes. The tv required several firmware updates in the beginning to even make the 3d not be broken and make you sick. I ended up buying 3d movies on ebay and rented some, it just became a hassle, although I did like the tech.
I often go to the theatre to see 3d movies exclusively since I enjoy 3d. I've demoed 3d in vr but I'm not sold on it yet. There are some vr made 3d movies where you stand in the movie and I love that.
I have 3 BenQ projectors. The best one being a 4K/3D @ 1080p BenQ. Over the years I have acquired over 550 3D movies. Disc and Digital files. But nowadays they are few and far in-between. Really sucks. Like you said, the bigger the better. I am at 150" on the BenQ 4K/3D Home Theater with 3,200 lumens so the DLP-Link glasses are nice and bright. But I fear the 3D home release days are over with. Really sad.
Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for your summary of the current state of 3D. It ain't dead yet! Still plenty of fans globally and still releases overseas.
I've got the same Epson Projector. The best glasses I've tried are the Xpand X105-RF-X1 with the Hi Shock Pro Black Diamond coming in a close 2nd.
Getting good glasses was critical in achieving a top notch 3D experience for me. (I haven't tried the Epson glasses)
I’ll have check out those glasses. I have 11 right now so no rush. I hope the us gets more releases as well since we haven’t had one since avatar the way of water.
The tech is already out there and developed where we no longer need special glasses for 3D content. The only drawback is that it's extremely expensive to get into consumer households. But yes, 3D is still awesome. When we can afford it.
I almost look at it like a an amusement ride.
I suppose so. I just hate adding any weight to my already enormous noggin. Yikes.@@Upscaled_Reviews
3d movies seen in VR through aps like Bigscreen VR are by far the best way to experience 3d movies in my opinion.
Bro. I have two projectors hanging. Get the Optoma 51a ,the 3d is perfect.
I’ll keep that it mind. The crosstalk is only a minor gripe. Worse on darker scenes. I can live with it.
Thanks for sharing. Am too a huge 3D fan and have a 3D TV that I dread would die on me one day. I had an active 3D TV that I just didn't like. I recall the active 3D format gave me headaches or just didn't feel right. I wasn't aware that projectors are only active 3D compatible, so this is very helpful. Now knowing what you shared, the passive 3D TV that I have now will likely be my last setup for 3D movie experience (unless I go out and buy another used 3D TV). Sad but unfortunately the 3D format didn't take off like I thought it would.
Still holding out hope for the format but my plan to accumulate as many 3D movies as I can is still in play.
@@Upscaled_Reviews Yes, I am also still hopeful that somehow the format can be revived down the road, although I would say it is highly unlikely. I'm still grabbing 3D blu rays along the way although I'm almost 100% caught up on movies that I like that is on 3D. T2 is next and that will probably be the end of the road unless there's more new 3D releases.
I have a second room I use my old Panasonic thx plasma and my kids are loving watching my old 3d’s for the first time . Such a shame they have killed it off , Avatar is no way as good without 3d 😢
I am a big 3D guy too man, it sucks to be losing it, I also have bought tons of them and having a big screen really immerses you into it, as soon as home releases started back in the day I have been accumulating them, it dictates what projector I buy too, I’m thinkin about getting a JVC projector just because they still do 3D blu ray
I would have gone a JVC myself but dropping $8k on a projector was a hard pill to swallow. I’m happy with my Epson. From PR?
@@Upscaled_Reviews yeah it is certainly a tough pill to swallow, I’m back and forth on it, NZ7 is the most I would ever be willing to splurge with but even that is rough lol I like the quality and being able to do 3D though, which is hard to find, my pops is from PR lol
Apple Vision Pro. If you know, you know. Unbelievable 3D experience
I’ve heard really good things. I really want to try it.
Actually the Avatar The Way Of Water Blu-ray 3D sold much more in Europe than the 4K blu-ray, so I son't think the format is going to die.
I think that was the only 3d movie released last year on blu ray.
I like the ability to choose. I prefer 4K HDR if I have to pick(sorry, I STILL like HDR), but what if I want to watch 3D? 3D should still be built in.
I watched Jurassic Park 4K 3D in the theaters during the re-release and it was AWESOME. I still get headaches from 3D, but if it's as awesome as JP in 3D, it's worth it. Avatar WoW was a tad too long but I still really enjoyed it even if I was in agony post watch.
Also, you can compress your 3D movies, split them up and convert them for the 3DS.
I had no idea you could play videos on a 3DS.
Acer SpatialLabs makes a 15" and a 27" 3D monitor with eye tracking without glasses. I have their 15" screen.
Thank you
I have 3D projector and 3D glasses but is not working
What is your source?
I like the "looking out a window" thing. I am looking to buy my first screen larger than a laptop's, a proper TV. Bummed that it apparently doesn't do 3D... I want a TV to become a kind of window into nature scenes, landscapes, highrise city views.
Assuming I would commission the content or had it produced from 2D, what would I need to make it work on a modern TV?
Would the bicolor $2 paper glasses come into play somehow?
Yrah its the reason why i kept my dony x940D its one of the last 4K tv's thst support 3D mine is 75 inches. They have been very hard to find. Plus now movies thst get 3D releases in theaters its only for like 2 weeks then they scrap it.
Once they scrap it, there is no way to watch it 3D because they’re not releasing the blu rays. It’s a shame.
i'm currently using the AWOL vision LTV 3500 Pro 3-D absolutely awesome I have pretty much all the 3-D movies that I've been produced including in the ones from overseas and the hard ones like predator with Arnold Schwarzenegger in 3-D but you mentioned 3-D movie theaters well there's a problem with that and that is it's not active 3-D. It's passivelacks all of the depth that active 3-D produces and that's why it didn't catch on to charge batteries in 3-D glasses of time effort and money. Also the lenses on active glasses scratch much easier than the passive 3-D glasses used in theaters so most people have never had a real 3-D experience anyone that comes to my house and watches a 3-D movie in active 3-D on my 150 inch screen is blown away. They said they've never seen anything like that movie theater and that's exactly why.
the last post production company for 3D conversion closed shop last year ,,, dam😢
I didn’t know that. That’s a shame.
Since its getting harder to find blue ray &or 3d disk everything changing to streaming. So how do you find your media? now
The rumor is, certain add ons from a certain multi media player app can provide some 3d content. You didn't hear this from me and was answering for a friend...LOL
I say this with the utmost respect as a fellow projector owner: the only reason you think HDR is a bigger gimmick is because you run a projector. Projectors can’t really do HDR. But I agree: projectors work amazingly for 3D! I run a BenQ Ht4550i/W4000i and the 3D is spectacular!
IMHO 3D provides more of an impact. I have an LG c2. I know what good hdr is like. It’s very nice but 3D gives you a third dimension in film.
@@Upscaled_Reviews I agree with sage11x that HDR is not a gimmick, but the issue is that 95% of HDR has crap mastering and screen tech. Rtings has a great series where you can see all their hundreds of TVs slowly burn out in an odd uneven manner, kind of like certain projector bulbs and plasma. And you can spend $10k on pc gaming and not be sure when you're going to have to fight windows & drivers for activation of a "Full HDR" effect. But both in the end really make as much of a difference or more than 3D, as long as your willing to verify both content and equipment actually perform to spec... I hate how hard it is to get the real good stuff some times.
@@Upscaled_Reviews It all depends on the movie. Even James Cameron, who loves 3D, says a lot of movies do it terribly. There are a ton of movies that just have 3D tacked on and provide no real impact. So now you're wearing glasses, watching in a lower quality, and judging a movie experience based on it's 3D (or lack there of) content. Saying 3D is always better like some of these other comments is just plain silly. I've seen quite a few of them that have very minimal 3D effects and I would've preferred to just watch normally.
My AWOL vision LTV 3500. Does HDR in an amazing fashion. I don't know what you're talking about. We now have Dolby Vision and audio. And 32 x 9 and 28 x 9 format available. I tend to think peoples opinions about projectors very with the amount of money they've spent.
I think what killed 3D is studios converting everything into 3D after the Avatar craze. Once they started converting post production it just started being a gimmick instead of part of the storytelling.
The only Native 3D films coming out this year are Disney animes and I doubt they will release the 3D Blu Ray. All the Dreamworks animes seem to be converted post production along with the new Garfield movie.
As for 4K vs 3D, it would depend on the film for me.
If it's shot on film or 4K Digital Cameras I will watch the 4K UHD
If it's native 3D like Avatar and Hugo I will watch the 3D Blu Ray
If it's post converted to 3D, I will also stick to 2D Blu Ray or 4K UHD.
The one post converted film I am interested in is Gravity. I heard amazing things about it.
Some conversions are ok. Unfortunately I think you name the majority of films that were filmed in 3d natively. I’ve come to appreciate all 3d and think of it as a different kind of experience more like an amusement park ride or something.
It's really to bad 3d tvs are gone. Mine just broke and I don't have room for a projector.
My last hope now is fixing my old tv.
I bought one for hi quality 2d and one for gaming and 3d movies 😊
What's a beginner friendly budget 3D projector? I'm currently using Nvidia 3D Vision with an Asus monitor. It has lightboost technology so I never have to worry about the picture being too dimmed for comfort or ghosting. The only downside is I'm watching films on a 27" monitor.
Honestly, I would buy the Epson 4010. You can also try and wait on a sale for the 5050ub but the 4010 is a great option. Amazon has renewed 5050ub's for $2300 right now amzn.to/4cUCbDh.
@@Upscaled_Reviews Thank you!
Is this the same process for playing in plex
Im not entirely sure. I saw something about playing side by side video. You can just set your projector to side by side mode manually. It should theoretically work.
3D is a Stereo image...It is like the stereo sound...I can't Watch and Hear monophonic any more...
There may be some continued hope for the format, which is great, BUT I see zero hope for the release of the newer movies, which do seem to be pushing only slightly veiled socio-political agendas at us all the time, anymore. That be my opinion. I'll take the older films. Thank you for the superb work of providing us with useful format info!! 👍
Happy to help spread the word!
Surely with the rise of AI upscaling and all kinds of graphic AI, eventually we'll just have aps or sites that cleverly convert to any kind of AI content? Let's say we watch a podcast. AI ought to soon be able to recognize what's background (real or projected) and what the people on screen look like in 3D from the extremes of their body movements across the video. Upscaling the video, all kinds of magic. More and more people have 3D goggles (I have nothing yet) let alone large (Ultra)4K TVs and monitors.
I dont understand why you need a 3d tv or a 3d projector, isnt the illusion made by the superpostion of red and blue colours? So its only the movie itself that has to be in 3d. When I was younger I remember watching shrek 3d with my ps2 on a 1080p monitor.
I have always loved 3d I wish it was on he tvs today. 3d had two issues. One was released to early. If it was released today or even another 5 yeas time when people have bigger screens say 80 inch or higher I think 3d would have had a better chance to surviv. I say better chance because the one thing over the screen size stopping 3d is having to wear glasses, most people. I know hatd that.
I use a 83 oled in living room but have 98inch projector that does 3d and I sirt like 8 feet away. 3d is great on it. I just wish it was 3d in 4k
3d in 4K would have been great!
The legality of format switching of physical media depends on where you are. USA? fine. Australia? Analogue to digital legal. ripping DVD/Bray to files illegal.
I thought migration was released in 3d
It was but I do t there are plans for blu ray 3D release.
Until you can do great 3d without glasses, it will always fail
Is it really that bad to wear the glasses? It never really bothered me. It would make it prohibitively expensive to implement and would fail as well.
people just like convenience, if all you had to do was just pick a movie and toggle the 3d option, i'm sure it would be more popular.
u really need good glassless 3d tvs and more good 3d movies, thats not happening anytime soon@@Upscaled_Reviews
LCD just doesn't do 3d well.
It's not worth seeing a non 3D in the theater. Waiting for digital release is usually a better more comfortable.
3d is still alive just went underground.New pc games are still getting 3d fix on helix mod.Good of war , Tekken 7 ,Days gone and so on.Also movies are getting converted to 3d by JFC on 3d hub site.Some of them are quite good.I have 2 4k tvs oled c6 55 and oled e6 65 its the best 3d that you can ever get.There is nothing that come close to 3d Oled quality.
Have you seen any of the JFC 3d film conversions?This man is 3d artist with 20 years of experience.Some of his conversions are beter then some studio 3d films relases that I have seen.Check 3d hub site for more details.
This is awesome. I'll definitely check it out.
it was pure greed that killed 3D in home ,,,, overpriced everything screwed 3D before it could get started. in 2016 it cost $112 for a standard pair of 3-D glasses for active shutter systems now I pay $78 for four pair. It was 69.99. for a 3-D movie in 2016 now it's 1995 or I can buy them used for as little as seven dollars my Samsung 3-D 75 inch TV was $6000 now I can buy 150 inch projector with perfect 3-D and 1 billion colors, it was green plain and simple standard reason that kills a lot of technologies with somebody wants a bigger boat my yachts 2 feet shorter than that guys yacht so I'm gonna screw all of my customers over and ruin 3D. I watched it all unfold before my eyes nobody's going to convince me of anything other than pure greed and the love of money that's what killed 3-D. I've never had a person come into my room and watch my AWOL vision LT 3500 and 3-D and not walk away completely blown away and amazed because all they've ever seen in theaters were passive polarized 3-D which sucks, most people don't even understand the difference between the two Cameron understands that the depth of the picture is more important than crap popping out of the screen at you although that's cool. It's the depth of you. That really sucks you into the movie I've done at least 100 videos over the last decade, I have a 312 movie collection all in 3-D something else I have to mention the proprietary bullshit that distributors pulled on everybody by making their movie locked on almost all players other than that region and I know this to be true because I have a region free player and there are a lot of movies in 3-D like valerian that will not play on my region 3-D player it was pure and simple. Nothing more nothing less.
I have seen a few 2D converted to 3D using A.I. and they are total B.S. No depth at all. They would just offset the entire right eye view a little from the left eye view. Fake 3D and not one iota of depth.
Conversions leave something to be desired unless done professionally. We’re getting to the point where we have no other choice unfortunately.
i'm currently using the AWOL vision LTV 3500 Pro 3-D absolutely awesome I have pretty much all the 3-D movies that I've been produced including in the ones from overseas and the hard ones like predator with Arnold Schwarzenegger in 3-D but you mentioned 3-D movie theaters well there's a problem with that and that is it's not active 3-D. It's passivelacks all of the depth that active 3-D produces and that's why it didn't catch on to charge batteries in 3-D glasses of time effort and money. Also the lenses on active glasses scratch much easier than the passive 3-D glasses used in theaters so most people have never had a real 3-D experience anyone that comes to my house and watches a 3-D movie in active 3-D on my 150 inch screen is blown away. They said they've never seen anything like that movie theater and that's exactly why.,, OK finishing up your video. I'm confused. They do make three televisions so that is one thing that's incorrect. You do not need Epson glasses to watch active 3-D formats any active 3-D glasses will do you can buy four pairs for $79 at Amazon I use them myself they're quite effective, the most important thing about 3-D glasses is the size of the lens. Some of them are quite small. The three televisions I mentioned are just prohibitively expensive for their sizes.
I did mention that any rf active glasses would work. I just wanted to have original epson ones but then I bought the ones on Amazon to get to 10.