Adjusting Trek Minolink (How-To) (4K)
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- Trek dual suspension mountain bikes come with the Mino Link, a plate which can be positioned to change the BB height and head angle. This can be adjusted depending on your riding style and where you ride.
When I bought my Trek Remedy I couldn't find any videos on how to adjust the minolink- so since I am off the bike after I broke my wrist (see a video of the crash here: • Wrist Fracture Crash o... ) I have made this how-to.
Mino Link Position:
Mino Link logo facing FORWARD: Low and slack (for sending it FORWARD)
Mino link logo facing BACKwards: High and Steep (for climbing BACK up)
Minolink is not only on the Trek enduro bikes with RE:aktiv (Trek Remedy and Slash) but can also be found on Trek Fuel, Stache and Powerfly FS e-bikes.
Suggestions from viewers:
- Ensure the minolink bolt is done up to 17nm of torque to ensure safety and to prevent it coming lose! (Thanks @Christian Boswell)
Thanks for doing this video. You are absolutely right, all the other videos on this were very useless. Including Trek’s own tutorial. Really appreciate it!
No problems- I am glad it helped!
Thank you so much mate, you explained what trek couldn’t!
THANK YOU MAN FOR THIS VIDEO !!
No worries- I am so glad that it helped.
Thank you so much as well, this link was impossible to use until this video, I had been trying to put one Allen key each side and Undo it in the wrong direction
Thank you brother. I’ve had my 2018 Remedy 8 for over a year now. Your video is the first one that explains how to adjust the mino link...man do I love this bike!
No problems- I am so glad the video helped! I agree, it is such a great bike!
Thanks for this video, I watched the video on the Trek website and was totally clueless, its like they think we all know about the workings of the mechanism before we watch the video.
Thank you it was intresting to see the difference in the geometry from high to low 👍
Thanks for watching @Neil Evans, it is a great feature to dial in the bike to the terrain you're riding!
I lost that part altogether on one side of my suspension, was trying to figure out what's needed for replacement. Thanks for showing that it actually unscrews against the displayed direction!
Thank you for the tips and especially on the reverse threads. Hope that wrist healed well, looks like a nasty spill.
We used your excellent video when my son first got his Remedy. Love a clear explanation, cheers!
One thing I can warn folks about - torque wrenches (maybe some expensive ones are ok!) don’t work on reverse thread. Mine didn’t anyway and we snapped the bolt. So take care if planning to accurately torque! (Hope your hand is better 😊)
Too easy- thanks for watching. That's a great tip for the other trek riders- thank you for sharing.
This really helped out and explained more than the dealer did!
Thanks for watching, I am glad the video helped. When I bought mine I couldn't find any information either and had no idea how it all pieced together!
Cheers mate the initial tightness got me worried I round the bolt out. Looking forward to seeing what slack mode is like on my fuel
I am glad it helped- that was exactly what I was concerned about when I first tried to change it! I had to take it back to the bike shop to get it loosened off. Let me know what you think of the difference on your fuel!
Your hand was still swelling buddy when you uploaded this video.
Thanks buddy for this instructional video! Send it n keep the rubbers side down!
At last an actual explanation of how to do this and also how it is made up and assembled ... No explanation anywhere else even Treks Video after a load of waffle only shows an alan key being waved near it for a couple of seconds?? tells you nothing, The first thing anybody will do after looking at Treks video that will be putting a waking great long extension on the Allan key in order to be able to get enough leverage on what appears to be a tight nut anti clockwise (as you would to undo anything) when in fact it needs to be turned clockwise to undo it as what you are actually doing as clearly shown in this video is actually turning the inside of the bolt coming in from the back.... Big thank you for a great video we can all understand and no stupid music
Thanks Andy- When I first tried to adjust it I had no idea what I was doing, couldn't work out how it all fit together and like you couldn't understand the thread direction. So glad the video helped!
thanks for showing this whole proccess. perfect to change it for flat hometrails and if you ride bikeparks you just put it back to slack mode. loving it!
Mate your a lifesaver I’ve nearly rounded the nut off as I was going with the arrows but stopped in time
No worries- so glad that I could help!
Thanks mate, you helped me a lot, especially that the screws have to be opened clockwise. Really appreciated. Cheers from the other side! (Austria)
That is a good habit, going against the thread till it sits then tighten. I do this all the time with my automatic watches, when winding them up. The last thing you want is cross thread auto watches.
I completely agree- I cross threaded a pair of my favorite pedals 15 years ago... and as a result, I have used this technique ever since!
Thanks for showing us how to do this. Easy when you know how.
Best explanation of Minolink in CZcams, thanks mate!
Thanks for the video. Took a while to see it in action.
now all i need is a mino link to fix my bike .. thanks mate for the video
No problems Nima Chogyal! Thanks for watching
Thank you , I just have done it today🎉
Thank you brother! Trek should PAY you for this.
Thanks for watching joeashbubemma- So glad that I could help!
Just what I was looking for, thanks!
That hand is SWOLLEN! It's may so I hope you're fine again ;) Thanks for the vid, helped a lot. Cheers from Switzerland.
haha- my hand is much better thank you. I am so glad the video helped- I checked out trails in Bern/Zurich a few years ago- Switzerland’s mountains would be a great place to ride regularly!
Buen video amigo, muchas gracias!!!
Gracias por la información!
Cheers mate. Really appreciate it.
Thanks for watching Julian Goulding; no worries- glad it helped!
Very well done.
thanks for watching nickacelvn- glad the video helped.
Thanks for sharing.
Too easy- I hope it helped!
Helpful video nice one 👍🏻
Take note: I have a 2109 Trek as well. Keep an eye on ALL of those suspension bearings especially, the main pivot bearing.
Mine gave out and was a bitch to Dremel out after 11,000km. Now all of the others are pooched as well.
Tech at local shop says that Trek seems to have 'forgotten' to lube the bearings when building the bikes. Go figger
Thanks for sharing. Appreciate it.
Too easy- I am glad the video helped.
Thanks for this video man. My links where done up so tight and this video gave me the confidence to really go on them without worrying about breaking anything. Whoever built the bike went hulk on them too.
Thanks for watching l200 V8 Adventure. I am so glad the video could help- I was very hesitant the first time I loosened it off too! Enjoy trying out the different settings!
Thanks for the vid! was great.
No problems, I am glad it helped.
Good info! Pikn up my 9.9 soon. Not many videos or info abt it yet. Ill have too post one with my son.....
Thanks for watching! Its such a nice bike- enjoy!
Thank you!
No problems, Thanks for watching.
Cheers man. The only disappointment I had was that I thought climbing mode was the default and I could slacken it.
No problems. I couldn’t really notice too much difference when climbing in either mode but the slack mode was much better for descending- so hopefully the slack mode is better for you too!
Thx for the video and this is not directed towards you, but I guess i'm lucky... Used a torque wrench to check all suspension bolts due to clicking noises. Used 16-17nm of the 17nm specc on the bolt and the piece of sht bolt cracked. Great, have to wait 2 weeks to get a 20usd bolt from Germany, just fckn brilliant :D:D
Does your wrench measure torque in the reverse direction (many of the "click type" do not)? If so, then was the bit long enough to span the entire length of the bolt? If not, then did the bolt shear beyond the depth of the bit?
Simple and to the point video. Thank you. Hand looks pretty swollen, fix that $#!+...
Thank you 🙏 🤙
No problems, I hope the different setup options help your riding too!
Thanks for the video. Has anyone had a problem tightening these to 17 nM? I just tried to switch geometry for the first time, and my bolt broke when trying to tighten to 17 nM using a torque wrench. Maybe my wrench is out of spec? I'll probably just hand tighten and use loctite plus zip ties from now on.
Does your wrench measure torque in the reverse direction (many of the "click type" do not)? If so, then was the bit long enough to span the entire length of the bolt? If not, then did the bolt shear beyond the depth of the bit?
Great video! Do you know where I could order the washer that goes between rocker arm and rear triangle? I only seem to have it on one side
Thanks
No problems Felix- let me know if you want me to make any other Trek related videos.
Gas & Flow ye absolutely
How's your hand?.. Hope all healed well
I’ve got a 2019 and they’ve changed which side the mino link plate is on. It’s now on the inside and I’ve changed it a few times and every time I end up dropping the link! Mine has grease on it though...
this looks so much easier on the outside.
Just curious how much sag do you run? I’m at 30% but the back end feels a bit soft. And less sag it feels a bit bucky
Thanks for sharing- I have just checked out the trek website and they have changed the side! I hope the video still helps.
I have been varying my amount of sag I use too and am comparing that to findings on my shock wiz- I will upload those videos next once it is all dialled in.
I know this post is nearly a year old, but sag won't affect how much you're being bucked as much as rebound. Run less sag (25-28%) then run less rebound.
Is it worth very lightly greasing the bolt and/or the bolt hole to help prevent water damage and seizing etc?
great vid btw
So glad you liked the video- Sorry about the delay, but I haven't been able to find an answer to your question in any of the Trek documents. Do any of the other Trek riders viewing this have any suggestions? Thank you in advance!
I just lock the rear shocks for the climbs. Is the difference noticeable on the climb?
Thanks for the timely video. I was just prepping my bike for the spring and checking the suspension and I was wondering how that worked as mine was also very tight so I stopped messing with it. Are there bearings behind the Minolink?
Thanks for watching- there are no bearings, just a chip with a lip on it which means it can only sit flush into the frame in one position. I hope this helps and you can get yours apart, I needed my local bike shop to loosen it off the first time!
It’s reverse thread
Hey man. I've got a 2016 session 88. When I bought it, it had a missing mino link. I've recently just purchased the link but now just need the bolt. Any idea on where to get two from? Any shop suggestions?
From QLD, Australia
Wow,that a left hand thread?
Thanks for explaining that....Are both sides left handed threads ?
No worries- thanks for watching. That's right; Turning clockwise (against the arrows) will loosen the bolt, while turning Anti-Clockwise (with the arrows) will tighten the bolt regardless of what side it is. I hope this helps.
Great vid.
Is the mino link nylon and able to wear out? I had an old GT with a similar set-up and those "links" wore out.
Thanks for watching and sorry about the delay in responding @Greg McRae- I cant find what the exact material is online- but assume its aluminum like the frame. I have had my remedy for 2 years and haven't seen any wear in the chip/housing where it sits in the frame, however it does come loose occasionally with normal trail vibration. If anyone else has any more info about the material/wear please message below.
Sooo what is like the differance lile what does each one do?
Thanks for the video. I will try this on my Remedy! Did you drive it with both the modes and what was your experience? Is this Minolink comparable to the Canyon Shapeshifter?
By the way is that a 2018 Remedy 8? I guess so!
No worries- thanks for watching. For the first few months, I only rode in the steep mode and I was more than happy my Remedy 8. (you’re right!) But once I changed it to the low/slack mode it has made the descents feel much more planted (and much faster on strava) and it has no negative effect on climbing. I was concerned that I would have more crank strikes- but that’s no different either. I couldn’t think of any reason I would change it back. Unfortunately I have never ridden the shapeshifter- when I was in the market for a new bike I believe the difference was that shapeshifter could be adjusted while riding. Hope that helps!
@@GasFlow1 So by slack mode, you mean the Mino link facing forward? I guess so as I see it from your video and from your description! So you also confirm that the Slack mode has no effect when climbing? I have to check my Remedy on which mode the Mino link is! I guess the factory settings is to have it in climb mode. If so I will change it and see how it goes.
Would it also be possible to make some videos on maintenance? For example., adjusting deraileur, gears, chain alignment etc? There are of course many videos out there, but I think you have the same bike as me, so it would be easier for me to just follow! I will also try to make some maintenance videos of my Remedy!
@Joesan, That's right- keep the logo facing forward for the slack (head angle) and low (bottom bracket) position. If anything it is slightly less nimble while climbing, but the difference is minimal (& makes no difference to the speed of my climbs) and well worth it when descending. Thanks for your advice re: more videos! 👍
tks for the video. do you feel a difference if the bike is as nimble in the slack mode than the climb mode
Thanks for watching MTB YB- In the slack mode it does feel slightly less nimble, however its pretty subtle. If someone else changed the setting and didn’t tell me I am not sure if I could tell the difference, but I should have checked this before I sold the bike!
Hello, thanks for this video that was really nice explained.
I tried my bike on slack mod because i always was on the "climb" mod and it feels better but i notice 2 thing i think i use more travel on my shock and i think my chain is much more tens, and heard a suspicious chain noise.
Sorry for my bad english, i'm a french rider🤘.
Thanks for your comment, I am glad you liked the video. I agree that I am using more travel in descending mode, but I assumed that it was because I was riding faster and hitting trail features harder in that mode. I haven't noticed any difference with my chain tension- but I will flip the minolink around on mine to check and get back to you.
Turns more progressive rear suspension in slack mode?
So why is the higher setting referred to as climbing mode? I can see where slacker is better for downhill and and being more stable. I am just looking to make my truck rail turn a little quicker in the tight stuff so high mode is what I will try for that now.
How did that work out for you?
@@bjmsamrlm I'm not sure except that the higher my pedals are off the ground the less rocks I hit with them so I will take as high as I can get for that reason alone.
This Vid saves my shit
haha- thanks for watching Arko. So glad it could help!
Does anyone know if this works the same on all years?
Hi, I know this is probably a really stupid question but what does this actually do? I'm new to mountain biking... 😆
ive noticed my bike has worn through the paint in this area.. quite a bummer.
I haven't noticed worn paint on mine. Where have you noticed it wearing so I can check again?
Is no one going to point out that that specific bolt is notorious for falling out, and the dude didn’t even torque it to the 17nm spec? Both a safety issue and possible lost bolt.
Thanks for your suggestion Christian- I have updated the description section of the video with your recommendation about ensuring 17nm of torque. I have seen other people riding with a zip tie through the minolink to prevent the bolt getting lost. Mine has never come loose so I have never done this- but is this something you do this with yours too? Thanks again for helping out the other Trek riders!
@@Error-hc7mp While I cant find anything about that in the Trek documents, I suspect that is what the bike shop had done to mine; and it seems to be used by other Trek riders online! Thanks for your suggestion Ace Space
@@Error-hc7mp Thanks Ace- I really appreciate your input to help the rest of the Trek riding community!
have u had issues with them vibrating loose , mine was creaking I check it and was loose as hell
Thanks for watching Joe Mckenzie, when riding I used to start to feel a bit of play in the rear triangle when it started to come loose. After it happened a few times checking the tension became part of my pre-ride check. I didn't have a torque wrench at that point- so I should have got one sooner!🤣
How Many nm torque ?
Can u explain what it does,
No problems, with the Mino Link logo facing forwards: the bottom bracket is lower and the geometry is more "slack". This is preferable
for descending as the bike is more planted and stable. With the Mino link logo facing Backwards it is the opposite, with a higher bottom bracket (meaning less crank strikes on the trail) and steering will be more responsive. Ultimately it all depends on what you prefer- so try both for your riding style and trails and see what works best for you. Thanks for watching, I hope that helps.
Gas & Flow much appreciated