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  • Iron knife made from bacteria
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    I smelted iron from iron bacteria and then cast the iron in a mold to form a rudimentary knife, making this the first iron tool I've produced yet. The ore was a species of bacteria that lives by oxidizing iron dissolved in ground water. It appears as an orange/yellow cloudy precipitate in creeks and ponds. It's a very common natural occurrence and can be found on all continents. I collected the diluted ore and poured it into a large, porous ceramic pot I made. The water leaked out, leaving behind the concentrated iron bacteria "mud" like substance. I dried it out until it resembled rusty earth. It took a month to collect the ore for one 2 hour smelt, from a stretch of creek about 20 meters long.
    Charcoal was then made simply by burning a pile of wood in a small pit and then extinguishing it with just enough water once it had visibly carbonized. It was quicker to make than the charcoal I normally make in a mound (1hr vs 2.5hrs) and took less preparation time making than the mound from mud. A small furnace was made and the multiblade blower (made in the last episode) was attached to it for air supply.
    The furnace was preheated for an hour with wood and filled with charcoal at the end, using the blower periodically but not full blast. Then over the next hour, 3 double handfuls of charcoal (about 500g) and 2 single handfuls or ore (about 200g) were added every 5 minutes while blowing air into the furnace to burn it at this rate. Then there was a 30 min burn down still using the blower till the charcoal reached the level of the air entry. The total operation took 2 hrs. A lump of slag was taken from the furnace and broken up. Iron prills up to about 1 cm in diameter were retrieved. For the sake of experiment I weighed the iron produced on modern scales= 40g iron from an estimated 1.2 kg of ore. Even though this is a low yield by modern standards it is a marked improvement over my previous smelts that produced much smaller and fewer prills over all. I did another smelt that almost exactly reproduced this result (80g of iron stored). The increase in efficiency is due to the much better blower design (8 blades vs the original 4).
    Next I cast the iron in a mold. The melting point of pure metalic iron is 1538 C. However, the iron prills I produced are cast iron, an alloy of iron and carbon where carbon is about 2-4% by weight. Cast iron has a relatively tepid melting point of 1150 C. Such a temperature is easily attainable in an open hearth with charcoal and a forced air supply. So, I put the prills into a triangular clay mold and put it into a simple pit forge that took very little time to make. Importantly, I made a special flat air pipe that spread the incoming air into a sheet that blew over the width of the mold to heat all of it evenly, a round one would only heat the middle of the mold and not melt it completely. Charcoal was then put on top of the mold about 12.5 cm deep and the air blast started. The fire became white hot, exceeding the 1150 C needed to melt the iron. The iron melted filling the mold and the iron triangle was taken from it.
    Initially, I was going to make it into an axe head, but decided it was too brittle (cast iron is actually harder than pure iron but brittle) so I sharpened it into a knife. It took many hours of sharpening to bring the end to a point. It's not a sharp blade it works well for drilling holes in timber (like for making fire drill sockets). This represents the first iron tool I've made completely from scratch in the wild. Future experiments will focus on obtaining greater yields of iron, exploiting richer sources of ore and ultimately making better iron tools.
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  • @A.Mere.Creator
    @A.Mere.Creator Před rokem +37911

    He has officially reached the iron age. Next is the steam engine and the industrial revolution!

    • @darkloot
      @darkloot Před rokem +3741

      speedrun of history any% no glitch

    • @HShango
      @HShango Před rokem +546

      The long road of evolution ha

    • @StudioUAC
      @StudioUAC Před rokem +480

      and microplastics

    • @Servellion
      @Servellion Před rokem +593

      Actually the next vid will start with a clay and twig satellite in orbit somehow.

    • @GenghisKhanBruseySkyz
      @GenghisKhanBruseySkyz Před rokem +152

      cant wait for the steam engines😤

  • @LophostrixOwl
    @LophostrixOwl Před rokem +14510

    Just watched SunnyV2's video on all the fake primitive construction videos out there and I just wanted express my gratitude for staying down to earth and honest about everything you do. You're the man John!

  • @andeeznuts420
    @andeeznuts420 Před rokem +1522

    It's absolutely fascinating to see how hard it used to be to make tools from iron and yet our ancestors made so much with these basic technologies

    • @_egghead
      @_egghead Před rokem +20

      Fascinating right

    • @Morsmalleo
      @Morsmalleo Před rokem +29

      Hard work and dedication my friend 😁

    • @pepez1325
      @pepez1325 Před rokem +90

      depends, this is a show off method, this guy just wanted to show how many methods there is to get iron, our ancestors mined ores then smelted, just like minecraft

    • @MrSimonw58
      @MrSimonw58 Před rokem +1

      Must have been s*

    • @trevorminton6084
      @trevorminton6084 Před rokem +133

      @@pepez1325 they also generally stuck to metals that melted at lower temperatures and were softer. Upgrades in technology allowed us to go from rocks>copper>bronze>iron>steel. Him skipping two ages and going straight from rocks to iron is quite impressive

  • @Thornsworks
    @Thornsworks Před rokem +689

    Just goes to show how thoroughly cherished a tool or sword passed down through the family would be.
    These tools had HUNDREDS of hours put into their creation.
    Amazing video as always.

    • @Kuhariko
      @Kuhariko Před rokem +26

      Depends where u live.. in columbus Ohio we have globs of ore the size of grapefruit in our creeks that don’t need refined

    • @sethraelthebard5459
      @sethraelthebard5459 Před rokem +51

      Indeed. During the latter days of the Bronze Age, around 1500-1000 B.C, iron was exceptionally rare. Rare in that it was very difficult in most developed nations at the time to be able to find the ore, let alone get fires strong enough to smelt it. Iron was thought to be found only in meteorites, as the iron oxide content was far more visible than other ore sources found on Earth. Thus, in the early days of iron-smelting, tools and especially weapons made of this "meteoric iron" were elevated to priceless treasures and relics. They were legendary artifacts that came "from the stars."

    • @Dbadaing
      @Dbadaing Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@sethraelthebard5459 All iron on Earth actually comes from meteor collisions with the Earth. The ones we find in the ground is just from very long ago.

    • @ignotumperignotius630
      @ignotumperignotius630 Před 7 měsíci

      many tools and especially swords (post 2000bc invention) were thrown into rivers and lakes

    • @AsifIcarebear3
      @AsifIcarebear3 Před 6 měsíci

      More insane that the result is so shitty, relatively speaking. All that effort for something not that much different from just another sharp stone. Must've taken a whole lot of convincing to get a solid amount of iron to make something worthwhile out of that a stone couldn't do.

  • @simezra
    @simezra Před rokem +4292

    10 hours of sharpening, i felt that deep in my soul as a knife guy.
    this guy is a legend.

    • @DanKaschel
      @DanKaschel Před rokem +178

      Yeah that's no joke. I wonder if he could improvise some kind of grinding wheel, though you'd need a round stone and either a way to drill a hole in it or some other way to mount it to a wooden shaft

    • @gRleF
      @gRleF Před rokem +153

      @@DanKaschel once hes done with that knife the stone he used probably has a hole in it xD

    • @surajmsd
      @surajmsd Před rokem +11

      @@gRleF lmao

    • @rmkenney
      @rmkenney Před rokem +124

      @@DanKaschel The real key would be to find a way to forge the blade flat or close to the final desired shape so that you don't need to remove so much material later. Of course he'll have to figure out how to make a Bessemer Converter so he can convert the cast iron into a forgable material(IE, steel). Considering what else he's done, a small BC should be easy for him to cobble.
      He needs to forge himself a steel sword, the Sword of the Gods. Then he can set himself up as the King of all known territory.

    • @illdree
      @illdree Před rokem +19

      @@rmkenney i was thinking he maybe should have melted the metals then poured it into the mould rather than melting them together inside it. may have made the sharpening a lot easier but i have no idea how much extra work that would have been.

  • @primitivetechnology9550
    @primitivetechnology9550  Před rokem +12384

    This is the first iron tool I've made. The method I used is reproduceable and relatively simple so the viewer should be able to get similar results to what I have. Watch the video with captions on to see information on the steps in more details. The ore I used is iron bacteria and it lives in soil everywhere though it only becomes visible when it becomes saturated with water. The viewer has probably seen it before when out hiking along streams but may not have known what it is. Any questions about the process let me know. Thanks.

    • @slabgizor1176
      @slabgizor1176 Před rokem +328

      Why not forge it into a flatter shape with more of a blade profile so that you didn't have to do so much work grinding it?

    • @morganmitchell4017
      @morganmitchell4017 Před rokem +101

      Not about the process, but are you going to make a bigger tool, like an axe? Or perhaps forge the steel to burn off some carbon?

    • @plusmanikantanr
      @plusmanikantanr Před rokem +79

      Would "Cement" like the quicklime and any kind of pottery/ceramics be possible to use as the mold ? Are there any other metals like Copper or Tin that is also accessible ? Maybe Pb but that might be too dangerous with fumes and other problems and all. 😀This stuff is brilliant!

    • @cristiii7605
      @cristiii7605 Před rokem +17

      How would this be done with bronze?

    • @Terminally_Radical
      @Terminally_Radical Před rokem +256

      I like that this implies people will be following this as example

  • @ashurean
    @ashurean Před 10 měsíci +257

    Daily reminder that this is one of the only "primitive tech" channels with ANY repute and he 100% deserves the audience he has because he's an absolute mad genius.

  • @LuckFx
    @LuckFx Před rokem +632

    Dear John, I'd just like to let you know (though by this video's response you've already probably understood yourself) how ecstatic this video has made me and so many others feel. I've been following you for years, got your (wonderful) book and I'm now eagerly awaiting the second installment. I believe I can speak for most of your viewers when I say that ever since I saw your first video I've been hoping against hope that eventually you would advance into ores and metals. And boy did you deliver. I hope you are making a good living out of this channel or at least this passion of yours. This is for me the pinnacle of youtube, videos that are not just mesmerizing and entertaining but will also stand the test of time due to the sheer nature of their content. Please, no pressure, but never leave us again.

    • @hn454
      @hn454 Před rokem +19

      Bruh he has over a billion video views. Even if you put him at the very lowest ad rate (which he is not at), he has certainly made over a million dollars from youtube. More likely closer to 3M. Plus $3400 from patreon for every video. Plus his book has been out for over two years and is selling extremely well. He is making more than a good living.

    • @KOTO-cod
      @KOTO-cod Před rokem +1

      @@hn454 yea

    • @zach3096
      @zach3096 Před rokem

      The ignorance some people have about their favorite creators bewilder me. Like do you realize for every dick you suck here on CZcams there is millions of dollars behind it? In this case, 10 million subs, probably 10+ million dollars. None of your creators care about you. They probably wouldn’t blink twice if they saw you dying on the street… this is coming from someone who loves primitive technology just as much as the next person but damn the cringe

    • @zach3096
      @zach3096 Před rokem +3

      Also, you must not be that good of a fan considering he made iron fucking four years ago😂

    • @cursorminor
      @cursorminor Před rokem +14

      ​@Zach no reason to put any one down man this is in his own words his first Iron tool so regardless its still a massive achievement. I doubt the owner of this channel would be proud of his fan base if all they did was put eachother down. Hope you're doing well tho.

  • @Ghostcharm
    @Ghostcharm Před rokem +2840

    This is truly in the top .01% of CZcams channels. Thanks for all the entertainment and knowledge over the years

    • @enkininhursag4728
      @enkininhursag4728 Před rokem +3

      Jésus-Christ

    • @c.a.a.n7874
      @c.a.a.n7874 Před rokem +7

      Normally I'd say that is too big of a claim but in this dude's channel it's true. I'd only say that this channel, JonTron, Filthy Frank and Nakey Jakey make up the .01%

    • @larvae4785
      @larvae4785 Před rokem +1

      so are you, bro

    • @Alphae21
      @Alphae21 Před rokem +6

      @@c.a.a.n7874 0.01 is like a few million channels

    • @TheFarmacySeedsNetwork
      @TheFarmacySeedsNetwork Před rokem

      YES!

  • @PekaCheeki
    @PekaCheeki Před rokem +3080

    thank you, I've been stuck in the stone age for a while and have been looking for a tutorial on how to advance, this helped me alot!

  • @nitrogenFox
    @nitrogenFox Před rokem +252

    From the way his hands were shaking taking the knife out of the mold, I bet he was crazy excited to have made a metal blade from nothing but the world around him and his hands! An amazing achievement!

    • @fluffy6489
      @fluffy6489 Před rokem +60

      John's hands might also be shaking from not just the excitement, but also because of what he is doing. This is insanely hard stuff to do, 10 hours of sharpening etc.

    • @PirateAgonistes
      @PirateAgonistes Před rokem +1

      Could also be autoimmune or neurological. He was shaking in other scenes as well. Might have MS, parkinsons, etc...

    • @bizmaster1221
      @bizmaster1221 Před rokem +1

      @@fluffy6489 It is probably more time consuming than anything. Most stuff here could be done by anybody with enough time and dedication.

    • @fluffy6489
      @fluffy6489 Před rokem +1

      @@bizmaster1221 Bro i dont even remember commenting this lmaoo

    • @stefthorman8548
      @stefthorman8548 Před 5 měsíci

      grinding metal against rock is very tiring.@@bizmaster1221

  • @nassehk
    @nassehk Před rokem +1164

    As a metallurgist I am in shock to see what you can do with no tools.

    • @Kindlesmith70
      @Kindlesmith70 Před rokem +46

      ???
      He used tools to make tools.
      You are shocked that he can make a kiln out of clay, or a fire pit?

    • @Ikbeneengeit
      @Ikbeneengeit Před rokem +11

      Would this be pure iron, or steel? Could you say what allotrope it would be?

    • @nassehk
      @nassehk Před rokem +97

      @@Ikbeneengeit Definitely not pure Iron given that it was in close contact with charcoal. The real question is whether it is steel or cast iron. That is hard to answer without seeing how it breaks or get the chemical composition or see how it generates sparks when machined. The determining factor between steel vs cast iron is carbon content. Less that 2.1 wt% would be steel. Ideally for a tool meant for cutting / piercing, he wants about 0.6 to 0.8 weight percent carbon. Anymore will damage the toughness. Cast iron would be the worst.

    • @YouCountSheep
      @YouCountSheep Před rokem +33

      @@nassehk would be interesting if he gave that to a lab for them to see the composition. It certainly doesn't look like cast iron, its a bit too shiny for that. It might have a high carbon concentration, but I am willing to bet that he actually made a bit of a high carbon steel alloy, there could be some other metals in there from the soil he used to make the forms, also seeing as cast iron has a lower melting point he didn't seem to reach it fully because it is so bubbly, or there is alot of slag in there still.

    • @nassehk
      @nassehk Před rokem +40

      @@YouCountSheep Interesting observations. Yes to all of them. One thing I wish he had done was making a proper low melting point slag. I would like to see him do this again this time add silica sand and some wood ash with sand to ash ratio of 3:1. If he forms a nice molten slag all those iron droplets would sink to the bottom and may even fuse together.

  • @federicorios1140
    @federicorios1140 Před rokem +4123

    This is an incredible milestone, the first iron tool on your channel. Congrats on reaching the iron age!

    • @SandJosieph
      @SandJosieph Před rokem +174

      Now he can mine diamonds!

    • @cboy-ou2hr
      @cboy-ou2hr Před rokem +57

      Now we have to figure out how he'll reach the space age

    • @BINTANGFILM_
      @BINTANGFILM_ Před rokem +17

      @@SandJosieph minecraft hha🤣🤣

    • @rydekk-4644
      @rydekk-4644 Před rokem +19

      @@cboy-ou2hr a few hundred millenia worth of research. It helps building a library ;)

    • @lasarousi
      @lasarousi Před rokem +7

      ​@@rydekk-4644 and burning other's libraries

  • @SirPembertonS.Crevalius
    @SirPembertonS.Crevalius Před rokem +769

    The amount of effort and work to actually create an iron tool with basically sticks and stones in a solo effort is beyond incredible. Especially so when you realize how long he's been working at furnaces and smelting.

    • @DesignPrototypeTest
      @DesignPrototypeTest Před rokem +2

      I, Pencil meet I, Iron Blade.

    • @menthols4625
      @menthols4625 Před rokem +54

      He just sharpened an iron triangle on a rock for 10 hours. His determination is crazy.

    • @IllumTheMessage
      @IllumTheMessage Před rokem +5

      Things are so difficult (nearly impossible) without a little help from our friends.

    • @SilvaDreams
      @SilvaDreams Před rokem +13

      Well this was how copper, bronze and eventually iron was smelted for the longest time. It wasn't till the industrial age that it changed a whole lot.
      Just in the 1600's or so they'd make essentially a huge tower version of this in a town.... Kind of why so much of Europe lost it's forests to make coal for metal processing. (Well that and the huge ships)

    • @yakumanification
      @yakumanification Před rokem +4

      @@menthols4625 Think about the fact that Iron Bacteria gives you 3.3% cast iron per unit collected. if he wanted to make anything bigger...

  • @walterezende
    @walterezende Před rokem +126

    Omg, he made a knife from scratch, masterpiece.

  • @axehead45
    @axehead45 Před 6 měsíci +8

    The only primitive channel I watch regularly. Actually legit and genuinely fun to watch

  • @stevenmusante4681
    @stevenmusante4681 Před rokem +555

    I’ve been waiting 3 years for this. I greatly respect you sticking to form and painstakingly grinding the blade with rocks. I’ve watched many channels accomplish less with the help of modern tools. Excellent job.

    • @cavemanvi
      @cavemanvi Před rokem +9

      were in the mfing IRON AGE BROTHERS!!!!

    • @AdamJensenReal
      @AdamJensenReal Před rokem

      @@cavemanvi he need to make hammer now :)

    • @LegendLength
      @LegendLength Před rokem +8

      I also promise the other channels cheat, even the ones that seem honest. If you look at the iron-making for some of those large channels it's clear they added like 1 kg of metal shavings.

    • @dmurray2978
      @dmurray2978 Před rokem +2

      @@cavemanvi he's passed every civilization except Europe and Asia!

    • @yuvtube1
      @yuvtube1 Před rokem

      A paddle operated brick wheel would have made it easier for him to sharpen that blade.

  • @wesleycatlett9144
    @wesleycatlett9144 Před rokem +892

    I've been waiting for this moment for years. I've never seen anyone work through these levels of technology so diligently and so knowledgably. Please continue making videos as you are living my dream and that of many others! Fantastic work!

    • @dmurray2978
      @dmurray2978 Před rokem +18

      Dudes more advanced than subsaharan Africa already.

    • @chickenosm
      @chickenosm Před rokem +18

      @@dmurray2978 how many times do you need to make the same comment?

    • @jimmypoobah8094
      @jimmypoobah8094 Před rokem

      It is amazing how the entities that built the matrix we live in thought of everything. What else did they plant (no pun intended) that is waiting to be found.

    • @snark6395
      @snark6395 Před rokem

      Same. Ever since the iron pill experiment, I have been waiting for this day. It makes me excited to see what may be down the line.

    • @justinrobertson5493
      @justinrobertson5493 Před rokem +1

      Skipped the bronze age, straight to iron age.

  • @clareellis4906
    @clareellis4906 Před rokem +138

    Omg!! I'm finally viewing this with sub titles and it all makes soooo much more sense!! I'm going back to rewatch all the videos with subtitles so I can fully understand everything you are doing:) 😄😄

    • @kermi4
      @kermi4 Před rokem +17

      You just blew my mind. I've been watching this guy since he only had 3 vids. I never even considered subtitles with no talking.

    • @clareellis4906
      @clareellis4906 Před rokem +7

      @@kermi4 its makes SUCH a huge difference! Haha enjoy! :)

    • @El_Andru
      @El_Andru Před rokem +4

      :V????? how did you last this long?

    • @Bear8Photo
      @Bear8Photo Před rokem +4

      Also my first time watching with subtitles. Iron age is a bit more complicated, so subtitles are definitely very helpful

    • @DigitalOutlawed
      @DigitalOutlawed Před rokem +3

      why didnt i know there are captions until nowwwww :(( I've been watching him for years

  • @matthewmitchell3457
    @matthewmitchell3457 Před rokem +102

    Wow, just astonishing. Can you imagine how much an iron knife like that would be worth back in caveman days? And we didn't even get to see him making all of the equipment necessary to make that blade. And to think, the manufacturing technology used to make modern knives, as well as the camera used to record this video and the computer to type out comments that are instantly visible all over the world... all came from THAT.

    • @brainwashingdetergent4128
      @brainwashingdetergent4128 Před rokem +6

      Except it increases the chances of catching tetanus so cavemen fooling around with this stuff back in the day probably got lockjaw and died.

    • @Leange5
      @Leange5 Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@brainwashingdetergent4128 How does this increase the chances of catching tetanus compared to the usual cavemen stuff?

    • @brainwashingdetergent4128
      @brainwashingdetergent4128 Před 10 měsíci

      @@Leange5 rusty iron deadly poisonous for cavemen, caveman need silver blade.

    • @Epic_747
      @Epic_747 Před 8 měsíci

      @@Leange5 same bacteria, once its in your body it produces toxins which cause tetanus

    • @ray.shoesmith
      @ray.shoesmith Před 5 měsíci +2

      It'd be worth 2 Korgs and an Oog

  • @WillKrause21
    @WillKrause21 Před rokem +478

    This is one of the most monumental jumps in Primitive Technology videos, a true, tho crude, iron tool made from dirt, wood, and goo. Really amazing. And honestly, I'm shocked that dried iron bacteria is a ~3% grade iron ore.

    • @RobGradyVO
      @RobGradyVO Před rokem +12

      "And Goo" lmfaooooo

    • @bigmike-
      @bigmike- Před rokem +6

      Well... Where do you think we got iron from? Lol there's a reason it took humans tens of thousands of years to go from the stone age to the bronze age, and then thousands of years from bronze to iron. We basically just did this stuff until we had enough materials to spur a new wave of technological development (which requires a surprise of material to work with).

    • @WillKrause21
      @WillKrause21 Před rokem +18

      @@bigmike- Bog Iron is my personal likely first forged iron candidate, as it feels much easier to stumble on than the bacteria goo. It is totally possible someone collecting clay for pottery collected it in a particularly gooey place, and when the eventual pottery was fired the goo turned into little iron pellets along with their pottery, and they went from there. Either way, it's amazing how much iron is in these bacteria colonies, and how it's an actually useful amount.

  • @FlnkR
    @FlnkR Před rokem +388

    can we just appreciate how valuable clay actually is, from making pots to carry water, to making his house, to being able to survive the high heats of the bottom of the fires and blow air directly on the metal to melt it, everything he has done all traces back to clay and thats fucking awesome

    • @Eng_Simoes
      @Eng_Simoes Před rokem +31

      Even men were made out of Clay

    • @fuckudieinahole60
      @fuckudieinahole60 Před rokem

      @@Eng_Simoes what ive been made out of clay the whole time!!

    • @randymagnum6680
      @randymagnum6680 Před rokem +3

      if you saw my work in ceramics class you would change your mind lol

    • @the_rover1
      @the_rover1 Před rokem +17

      if plastic wasn't invented, we'd still do a lot of stuff with clay.

    • @batt3ryac1d
      @batt3ryac1d Před rokem +1

      @@the_rover1 We do a lot of stuff with clay still lol

  • @iamthebrownie5989
    @iamthebrownie5989 Před rokem +6

    This man has been making iron for years now, and every time another video comes out about the iron algae or bacteria or making prills everyone thinks commenting about the iron age is super hilarious and original lol but really it just shows that you havent been watching his videos very long

  • @mattlawyer3245
    @mattlawyer3245 Před rokem +35

    Wow, incredible. I didn't think the process of refining your own iron and creating your own tools could be as simple as this. Of course, the results are crude, but with a bit of practice and further refinement it seems very promising!

  • @GerackSerack
    @GerackSerack Před rokem +373

    "Primitive Technology: Forge Blower" was published *five years ago*. This is such an important milestone! Can't wait to see him advance further.

    • @GlobalAidFederation
      @GlobalAidFederation Před rokem +3

      He demonstrates that you dont have to keep producing anything new.
      But consistent.

    • @jazko
      @jazko Před rokem +1

      Achievement unlocked : Iron

    • @baikia777
      @baikia777 Před rokem +2

      Next step probably is forging to make higher quality iron tools.

    • @GlobalAidFederation
      @GlobalAidFederation Před rokem

      @@baikia777 I think he needs a better forge.
      these guys have just perfected it;
      czcams.com/video/tsFpl9eFaDc/video.html
      The primitive technology metal wars resume.
      It's amazing how John has managed to catch up with the rest with just one video.
      I also tthink he may have made steel in this video. So smelting tools instead of forging them will be the best way for him to go.

    • @enginyormaz8391
      @enginyormaz8391 Před rokem +1

      bronze age collapse happened and it took 5 years for him to het out of the dark ages

  • @KCorman16
    @KCorman16 Před rokem +366

    This is what I've been looking forward to since his first iron making video. The gradually progression to a usable thing. It kind of feels like watching thousands of years of human development and understanding. He's has the the knowledge, but skill and understanding only come with time. Knowledge can speed up the process but never eliminate it.

    • @sirave6017
      @sirave6017 Před rokem +2

      Yess, and seeing only one person at work, you can see how with a group of laborers contantly performing their tasks and the true artisans trying to perfect the craft with the right leadserhsip behind them, you're talking about the early city states of Eurasia. They would have already perfected the smelting aspects and casting with their knowledge/technology of copper/brass/bronze and allowys which melt at much lower temperature (less work, less time. This was the next natural progression in that learning curve which resulted in first iron works in Eurasia and elsewhere with empires like the Hittites. Videos like this make that progression of history feel palpable.

  • @littlesaresare
    @littlesaresare Před rokem +4

    10 hours of sharpening. Your patience and determination is unbelievable.

  • @PROLOL-ov2te
    @PROLOL-ov2te Před rokem +7

    Love this guy, doesn’t fake anything, and makes great content! At 9:13 tho, he lights a fire literally right next to his wood storage. You sure thats a good idea?

    • @dvmas
      @dvmas Před rokem

      @teamYBS gay

    • @rampantfantasy1181
      @rampantfantasy1181 Před rokem

      i mean probably not but he seems to be an expert and made it through the video fine

  • @doot4246
    @doot4246 Před rokem +1110

    i love the fact that this guy can just be like: "i wanna make a furnace"
    and he just makes a whole ass functional furnace. like that is some serious skill

    • @nikkiofthevalley
      @nikkiofthevalley Před rokem +43

      That's actually simple enough. It's just an intake, an impeller to drive the air into the furnace, and a stick with string around it to allow for fast enough rotation. The problem is actually making those first parts. The difficult part of that is that it takes a lot of fiddling to get an impeller to not fall apart when you're working with extremely primitive materials. Everything else is just clay/other materials & knowledge of how airflow and heat works.
      All it takes is time and materials, it isn't that complex conceptionally.

    • @williamszy2827
      @williamszy2827 Před rokem +122

      @@nikkiofthevalley 8 cobble*

    • @memelord9965
      @memelord9965 Před rokem +51

      @@nikkiofthevalley make it then

    • @sungvin
      @sungvin Před rokem +30

      @@memelord9965 why should he? He explained it pretty obviously

    • @TheMikuma
      @TheMikuma Před rokem +34

      @@memelord9965 I have, but it took about 14 hours of work from two people. He's not incorrect - it's not very complex, but if you don't have a nice source of clay it is back breaking work. Still not too much skill involved, just a lot of labour.

  • @twokharacters
    @twokharacters Před rokem +505

    You did it! For years you've been trying to get a useful amount of iron out of that bacteria in an efficient way! I'm so amazed and vicariously proud of your accomplishment. All the years have paid off PT. Congratulations and well done!

    • @KoeSeer
      @KoeSeer Před rokem +11

      next video: I made steel sword and steel tip arrow

    • @soulstoneking548
      @soulstoneking548 Před rokem +7

      Fun fact! His names John plant! He's also written a book!

    • @davidmistoffelees8459
      @davidmistoffelees8459 Před rokem +2

      @@KoeSeer Spoiler: spaceship in next video :3

  • @Moomin360
    @Moomin360 Před měsícem

    Lots of fake videos out there but this gentlemen is the real deal. His dedication, patience and skills are beautiful to watch. Thank you sir.

  • @micahchoate6051
    @micahchoate6051 Před rokem +13

    I love this channel you can tell by how big the projects are and that even with all the parts skipped and the episodes still being up to 10 min that it’s not just something easy to do there is so much work and effort put into it and it shows how well people can do if they work hard enough

  • @SurvivalLilly
    @SurvivalLilly Před rokem +5004

    I was waiting for this video for years hoping you would advance to iron age 😃

    • @GamerGoneFishing
      @GamerGoneFishing Před rokem +83

      He made iron years ago already

    • @TheSilliestGoober69
      @TheSilliestGoober69 Před rokem +250

      @Dont Check My About Page Link thanks! ill make sure i wont

    • @krakic7574
      @krakic7574 Před rokem +32

      Me too. I’ve been waiting for him to get enough iron to make something out of it since I first saw his original iron bacteria-forge video. Also your channel is super cool as well. You helped me decide which bow to buy. Vielen Dank!

    • @muhschaf
      @muhschaf Před rokem +6

      Yeah after his first bacteria attempt i had this wish too. he has finally done it. ^^ Now he needs to work out Ambos and Hammer better so he can form the iron better.

    • @jaminson2855
      @jaminson2855 Před rokem +19

      @@GamerGoneFishing yes but he never fashioned a blade. This is a monumental step

  • @martinanderson1737
    @martinanderson1737 Před rokem +689

    We've reached the Iron Age! John, this is the video that many of your fans have been waiting for since the original Iron Prills video 4 years ago. Absolutely stunning achievement and a credit to all your hard work that we've been privileged to share.

    • @MrPanda-ke9rf
      @MrPanda-ke9rf Před rokem +5

      Wait it 4 years ago?? It feel like yesterday, never realize i follow this man journey for so long

    • @johnhollingsworth4027
      @johnhollingsworth4027 Před rokem

      Yesssss I’ve been waiting 😭

    • @jamesgrist1101
      @jamesgrist1101 Před rokem

      @@gui577b just need to whack the iron with a hammer to convert it from cast iron into forged iron?

    • @photonicpizza1466
      @photonicpizza1466 Před rokem +9

      @@jamesgrist1101 It’s unfortunately not quite that simple. Cast iron doesn’t refer to just the shaping method, it also has a very high carbon content, which makes it very hard and brittle. This makes it unsuitable for forging, it’ll just shatter upon impact even when heated (hence why it has to be cast). To truly enter the iron age, he’ll need a better smelting process (mixing with the charcoal adds a lot of carbon), and possibly a better source of ore (the bacterial ore is very impure).

    • @MaFed191080
      @MaFed191080 Před rokem

      Он узнал как раздобыть шлак от сварки и попытался его нагреть в печи. "Круто".
      Интересней было если он переплавил свинец. Проще и правдивей, но к сожалению нет в округе свинцовых руд. Хотя мог и в сценарий вложить пару свинцовых камней. А в печи уже добавить чистый свинец.

  • @jeffcooper9363
    @jeffcooper9363 Před rokem +78

    I'm trying to figure out how you could create a forging process using a dead fall of sorts but lack experience and knowledge. Of course without the proper alloying elements it probably wouldn't work anyway... Great job, I admire your creativity and hard work.

    • @spooky3669
      @spooky3669 Před rokem

      You clearly did not read the description of the video!

    • @MyJamesleo
      @MyJamesleo Před rokem

      Dude he have 10 million subscribers and have millions of views on all his videos do you still think he don't have proper knowledge and experience i think he have a proper team and the do proper homework and research for all his videos

    • @dzonbrodi514
      @dzonbrodi514 Před rokem +7

      @@MyJamesleo I think the commenter was referring to the original people who lacked the theoretic knowledge and were working from trial and error

    • @sossololpipi9633
      @sossololpipi9633 Před 7 měsíci

      Insane boredom + fire = this

  • @courtneywhite3544
    @courtneywhite3544 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Thank you for doing these videos. My two young boys are loving it! We homeschool and it's such a great way to teach them how things are made in such a fundamental way.

  • @rudolfvaavra8859
    @rudolfvaavra8859 Před rokem +954

    I would never have believed that so much iron could be extracted from the bacteria in a single stream. Must have been a lot of work. Hats off to you.

    • @rettichdergeile9361
      @rettichdergeile9361 Před rokem +80

      It really is amazing, I can't imagine what the first person to discover those Bacteria was thinking

    • @theappel
      @theappel Před rokem +12

      @@rettichdergeile9361 bacteria wasn’t discovered until 1676.

    • @nutellasweet7529
      @nutellasweet7529 Před rokem +59

      @@theappel your point?

    • @painfulsilence316
      @painfulsilence316 Před rokem +198

      @@theappel That doesn't mean it wasn't there or that it wasn't being utilized. Fermentation, boiling water, even knife making (apparently) are all actions involving or in response to bacteria, even if the person didn't know what bacteria was.

    • @fergochan
      @fergochan Před rokem

      @@theappel humans have been using prokaryotic bacteria for (as well as eukaryotes like mould and yeast) for millennia without knowing what they are on a fundamental level.

  • @moldoveanu8
    @moldoveanu8 Před rokem +847

    And to think this guy is re-enacting and blending historic time periods it's mind blowing, our ancestors also had to crawl their way through all these stages themselves. Hats off to you John, you are an inspiration

    • @Greener01
      @Greener01 Před rokem +94

      He is also applying knowledge of chemistry, biology and physics accumulated by humanity over the course of hundreds of thousands of years. He would be viewed as some kind of wizard by our ancestors XD

    • @zagreus5773
      @zagreus5773 Před rokem +39

      @@Greener01 I wonder how similar the technologies were in the past. Surely we don't exactly know and he is using modern knowledge. But stone age people were incredibly smart and could do some amazing stuff. They used iron oxidizing microbes for making pigments, which also required heating them up to 800°C. But I could not find if they used it to make tools.

    • @memelord9965
      @memelord9965 Před rokem +42

      @@zagreus5773 they were always smart, they just improvised and utilised whatever they had, similar to computer scientists in 1950s when Internet etc didn't exist, doesn't mean they are dumber than modern day computer scientists

    • @zagreus5773
      @zagreus5773 Před rokem +9

      @@memelord9965 I don't know what you want to tell me, I said nothing different...

    • @chrisa8863
      @chrisa8863 Před rokem +5

      I always wonder what makes me so lucky to alive in this time. I'm sure past generations thought the same and I'm sure future generations will also think the same. Life is fascinating

  • @ozgurylmaz8483
    @ozgurylmaz8483 Před rokem +4

    The work of this man may become a milestone reminder of the most essential knowledge of human civilization carved inside a digital world. For three years, the contents have always been surprising. I have great respect for him and wish him all the best.👏

  • @BenRussoUSA
    @BenRussoUSA Před 4 měsíci +1

    The fact that Primitive Technology channel has 10.8M subscribers gives me hope for the future of the human species.

  • @SarudeDanstorm
    @SarudeDanstorm Před rokem +874

    It's amazing we basically get to watch a realistic recreation of how we advanced early technology. Primitive Technology has been harvesting Iron in many of his videos, but this is the first he's been able to begin forging with it.

    • @nomellameshomerollamamehomer
      @nomellameshomerollamamehomer Před rokem +51

      Indeed, to be very very precisly, is not forging is casting; to "forge" iron is a little bit more complicated, if he would heat that iron knife until is orange/yellow (1100ºC) and hammer it (maybe with a stone hammer out of a very strong stone) and continue hammering until make a ingot, that would be forging and that iron indeed (due to the previous casting process) it would be steel, way more harder than casted iron (that is that he had)

    • @nomellameshomerollamamehomer
      @nomellameshomerollamamehomer Před rokem +7

      @@thomaswinzy you can make steel out of that way you mention or the way i told, for example to do katanas the process is the one i mentioned, they melt iron powder like this man and make small pieces of "casted" iron (that carries carbon) and later on they smash the pieces with very high temperatures to make steel. When you take casted iron (that had one molecular structure) and re heat and hammer it with enough strenght the molecular structure changes and also you can erase the worsr parts (the molecular structure could go to martensita or even austenita if you heat enough and later on cold down)

    • @thomaswinzy
      @thomaswinzy Před rokem +4

      @@nomellameshomerollamamehomer Sorry I removed my comment before I saw that you replied. i thought re-heating and hammering, cooling and re-heating was something called "hardening". to make steel out of actual iron don't you need to de-oxidize it and add carbon, cast iron have way more carbon than steel and you need to melt it to like 1700C to de-oxidize it. I think cast iron is too brittle to hammer, its hard but cant handle tension, but maybe it works when its red hot

    • @nomellameshomerollamamehomer
      @nomellameshomerollamamehomer Před rokem +9

      @@thomaswinzy yes of course it won't be the perfect steel or method (not nowadays 😅😅😅) but i mean, that superheroe had made iron out of debris of bacteria!! Is a very good product hehehe, I only mentioned that to say that if he wanted to improve his casted iron knife.

    • @thomaswinzy
      @thomaswinzy Před rokem +1

      @@nomellameshomerollamamehomer i dont even think it would be steel at all, thats all im saying. im not trying to argue hes not doing a good job, but its iron, not steel :) but im no expert its just what i read

  • @oxob3000
    @oxob3000 Před rokem +1329

    He did it! He made an iron tool!

    • @kerduslegend2644
      @kerduslegend2644 Před rokem +41

      Now the next on the list is to form a proper government

    • @alphamamba3076
      @alphamamba3076 Před rokem +46

      Now we just need to find some diamonds and netherite and he'll be ready to fight the ender dragon

    • @SherifBender
      @SherifBender Před rokem

      It is re-upload from years ago

    • @dmurray2978
      @dmurray2978 Před rokem +8

      He's now surpassed the inventions of subsaharan Africa

    • @alphamamba3076
      @alphamamba3076 Před rokem +18

      @@SherifBender I'm fairly certain it isn't, back then he used a different method and he never cast anything. You can also see the impeller he made in a video fairly recently

  • @thehandleiwantedwasntavailable

    I dropped off your videos when you had a lengthy break. I recall at the time, you had extracted a few iron pellets and hinted at metal work in the future. That was probably in 2018. So great to see in 2022 you revisited the topic and created a blade!! All from nothing but the raw materials in your local environment, your physical effort and your mental intelligence. Amazing really.

  • @olivierallaire6302
    @olivierallaire6302 Před rokem +3

    The one and only not-fake PT channel!

  • @deeeeniiiiss
    @deeeeniiiiss Před rokem +2311

    i love how you're literally evolving as this series goes on, from using your bare hands to making iron tools, soon you'll have full diamond armor!

    • @stickpfp6347
      @stickpfp6347 Před rokem +134

      In two years he’ll be in the nether making netherite armor

    • @humanperson9443
      @humanperson9443 Před rokem +57

      He should kill zombies for faster iron

    • @urfavleo07
      @urfavleo07 Před rokem +11

      @@humanperson9443 yes!

    • @eyei6535
      @eyei6535 Před rokem +68

      everyone laughs until this guy got to medieval times and starts going to towns and enslaving them

    • @sirtangerine1465
      @sirtangerine1465 Před rokem +17

      Can't wait for him to go to the End beat the ender dragon and unlock the Elytras

  • @henrylaveran4691
    @henrylaveran4691 Před rokem +135

    This man really left us for years, only to return and fully circle back on his arc into the iron age! LEGEND

    • @nfr_ub
      @nfr_ub Před rokem +3

      He finally did it, i'm crying :')

  • @thomascraig7230
    @thomascraig7230 Před rokem +7

    I really enjoy your videos. You are the most patient person in history. Stay safe.

  • @mrfloppy1952
    @mrfloppy1952 Před 4 měsíci +1

    it's amazing to realize that nature has given us all the tools and technologies and essentials hidden in plain sight waiting to be discovered by us.

  • @eaaeeeea
    @eaaeeeea Před rokem +805

    I consume A LOT of different kinds of media, and Primitive Technology is easily the most consistently fascinating series of all media. Your editing and captions provide 100 % substance and 0 % fluff so it respects the viewers' time. You obviously do a lot of research on this subject and your continuous desire to learn keeps the content fresh. The upload frequency is often enough to remember the existence, but rare enough to allow for superior quality and desireability through scarcity. The multitude of copycats simply cannot make all these things work consistently, so you through your passion will remain the king of the hill.

    • @lisawaters2585
      @lisawaters2585 Před rokem +6

      Yes, I agree completely.

    • @Ral_Sera
      @Ral_Sera Před rokem +3

      Watch it again this time with Captions on for those who didn't know he has captions

    • @Wokegooglers
      @Wokegooglers Před rokem +4

      Stop consuming

    • @BoomerKeith1
      @BoomerKeith1 Před rokem

      And he's done a phenomenal job since the very beginning. I have learned more from his content over the years than all other YT channels I've watched combined.

    • @BoomerKeith1
      @BoomerKeith1 Před rokem +1

      @@Ral_Sera I didn't realize he added captions for a long time. When I discovered that it changed his content completely for me. Made it even better.

  • @lordchickenhawk
    @lordchickenhawk Před rokem +619

    Congratulations on making a workable amount of iron! You've worked so hard over so many years with so many experimental techniques to achieve this! Thanks for sharing your journey with us all.

  • @chad1755
    @chad1755 Před rokem +4

    All of humanity: Stone age, copper age, bronze age, iron age over several thousand years.
    Primitive Technology guy: Stone age straight to iron age, single-handedly.
    Ultimate flex.

  • @Viral-Boss
    @Viral-Boss Před rokem +3

    Imagine being sent back 5.000 years with a time machine together with this guy. Amazing channel!

  • @ThomasCr0ss
    @ThomasCr0ss Před rokem +610

    Finally! Iron Age achieved! We waited for so long for it and we are so proud of You! Thank you for the journey! Can't wait to see the crafts you make with iron tools, because even the stone tool made ones were amazing!

    • @reliantncc1864
      @reliantncc1864 Před rokem +28

      Took me longer to work my way up to iron in Civilization. He's going to be flying to Alpha Centauri in a homemade rocket before you know it.

    • @Arkume8Beltz
      @Arkume8Beltz Před rokem

      I don't understand why the haste to the achievements and the metal ages..we lived 300k in the paleolithic, only 10k in the neolithic, 2k in the copper & bronze age, 3k the iron age..and remember..this is only a eurocentric point of view..in parts of africa, oceania & america the stone age ends 2 hundred years ago or less..and made increible well works with stone & wood...we forced them to a really speed changes in euro-asia needs hundreds years in decades..(how"easy"can find and work wood & stone make we can adapt around the diferent enviroments of the Earth, our actual manufactured superspecialitzation and enviroment destroyers maybe make us like chetah to the extintion..not to space explorer like StarTrek or StarWars..we have the same social & psychological problems we had at the beggining of"history"recorded and by the way probably we create new tech than will solve that..) we will need 500k more in stone age to evolve adecuately to can use appropiately our actual tech..we can live mutualistic symbiosis with Earth biosphere, we can be the brain & inmune system of the Earth, but we destroy the enviroment who evolved us, some individuals can be clever but as specie we are to stupid..xD

  • @SovietWomble
    @SovietWomble Před rokem +3057

    Okay THAT is extremely cool. Particularly from 9:40 onwards.
    Just like that, an ape can get a metal blade.
    At a time when all the other animals are having to make do with claws and teeth.
    I've been dying to see you do metalworking stuff. Ever since that video with the small pellets of iron. Strongly encourage you to consider stuff like arrowheads, spearheads, etc. Fascinating to watch!

  • @SocialPrime
    @SocialPrime Před rokem +2

    Please never stop making videos. This is one of my favorite channels

  • @revertedakhi
    @revertedakhi Před rokem +3

    I cant think of any primitive channel more legitimate that this. Thank you for sharing us your hard work. Thru your channel we are having an insight about the evolution of human engineering.

  • @attilarischt2851
    @attilarischt2851 Před rokem +946

    I believe this method of iron gathering was used even quite far into the renaissance. To my knowledge the majority of iron for the peasantry was bog iron usually forming under wet grassland by the same or very similar bacteria. Tooling got a bit more sophisticated of course, but mined ore was not particularly affordable for the poorer strata

    • @richarevans
      @richarevans Před rokem +15

      Because transportation wasn't easy I think you are right, most iron making didn't involve ore. If you look at places like East Anglia and West of London there isn't any ore of note (though there may have been local mines)

    • @Bialy_1
      @Bialy_1 Před rokem +20

      "Prior to the industrial revolution, most iron was obtained from widely available goethite or bog ore, for example during the American Revolution and the Napoleonic Wars. Prehistoric societies used laterite as a source of iron ore. Historically, much of the iron ore utilized by industrialized societies has been mined from predominantly hematite deposits with grades of around 70% Fe. These deposits are commonly referred to as "direct shipping ores" or "natural ores". Increasing iron ore demand, coupled with the depletion of high-grade hematite ores in the United States, led after World War II to development of lower-grade iron ore sources, principally the utilization of magnetite and taconite. "
      You can actualy search information in internet... no need to write comments about your "believe"...

    • @attilarischt2851
      @attilarischt2851 Před rokem +29

      @@Bialy_1 I do appreciate double checking my "belief" though the words I used seems to have been incorrect. Bog ore is what I referred to. Hematite was mined, and while a very good iron ore, is also not that common to be found everywhere, making transportation for the poorer strata extremely rare. You will not see peasants fixing their plows with them, unless there was a larger city nearby they could travel to (before train it usually meant 12-ish kms, as that was the distance you could make on foot and back in a day).
      Laterite is a soil type, most common in the tropics and near the equator, so it's not exactly useable to to peasants outside of those regions. It's that red soil you see in australia for example.
      Goethite was first described in 1806, but I'm not sure how widespread its usage was beforehand, it's been a while since I had my minearology classes, you might be absolutely correct about this one being used.
      However I would like to point out that my original comment was about the peasantry, the people who coulnd't afford the mined ore, those who had to till the land from sunup to sundown. Those people had to make do with what they had nearby and bog iron (or bog ore if you will) was the most convenient.
      For the nobles, and the nation itself, sure mined ore was absolutely more important and convenient, if for nothing else the pure difference in scale that mining can achieve.

    • @SuperMario.
      @SuperMario. Před rokem +19

      @@Bialy_1 No, when you use the term "To my knowledge" or "Believe" you are actually putting yourself as the source of the information you are talking about. When a random internet comment writes matter of factly about any information on the internet it is important to mention the source so false information can be tracked and corrected before it becomes public misconception. By saying he is the source you can naturally assume it not to be 100% accurate and do what you did, research it further.

    • @c0nstantin86
      @c0nstantin86 Před rokem

      Evolution is a joke! All men who landed from the Ark of Noah ware inteligeble

  • @TheJoePilato
    @TheJoePilato Před rokem +255

    The combination of chemistry, geology, biology, botany, construction, engineering, physicality, and everything else is astounding. Specialization is for insects and your well-rounded nature inspires me.

    • @Phoenix-zu6on
      @Phoenix-zu6on Před rokem +8

      if you think about it, its the other way around. all of those fields stem from primitive technology, such as this. and when it all got to much for one person to know, it was branched out.

    • @1.4142
      @1.4142 Před rokem +2

      @@Phoenix-zu6on It's also much or efficient to get really good at one task, increasing the volume of production of everyone. Imagine if everyone had to do every step of the supply chain today.

    • @michaelscott-joynt3215
      @michaelscott-joynt3215 Před rokem +5

      Civilization is utterly built on specialization. What he's showing you took ages of special study and practice to achieve higher understanding and efficiency. What he presents is the cumulation of all of this knowledge and experience. Being well-rounded means not having peak understanding or experience at anything. It's not a bad thing, but by your logic an insect knows more about any one of those things than he does.

    • @alal2192
      @alal2192 Před rokem +1

      Ok but why be so rude lol

    • @himan12345678
      @himan12345678 Před rokem

      @@michaelscott-joynt3215 no, specialization is stagnation. Progress is made by polymaths and groups brought together consisting of diverse specialists. Everyone likes to quote the saying, "jack of all trades, master of none..." but leaving it at that is misleading and completely changes to the original meaning of the whole proverb, "...better than a master of one." We are not meant to specialize, we are meant to play to our strengths and cooperate with others to cover our weaknesses. And we are not limited to just one strength, we all have many. Even the best at a certain task will get bored or tired of performing that, so you have others that can do that task when that happens, so they get a break or change of pace. All specialization has ever done is support, empower, and entrench the elite and powerful. From the God-Kings of the bronze age, to the monarchies and church of the medieval era, to the corporations and military-industrial complexes of today.

  • @jonathanstafford9053
    @jonathanstafford9053 Před rokem +8

    This was a very cool video to watch. I just read the comments section and read about turning on the captions for more information about what you are doing. I am both excited and daunted to go back and re-watch the 40-50 videos I've already seen, but you make some very good videos. 👍

  • @Matheus-mr4tl
    @Matheus-mr4tl Před 15 dny

    Give this man a prize. He's a genius. I don't believe i just leaned how to make a iron knife from water

  • @legomacinnisinc
    @legomacinnisinc Před rokem +219

    The sheer brute force patience of this man, I really am impressed.
    Ever since his first video talking about how to get iron from bacteria I've been waiting for him to make an iron tool and now he has. It's been an amazing ride!

    • @ruolbu
      @ruolbu Před rokem

      exactly this.

    • @evanflagg8386
      @evanflagg8386 Před rokem

      Makes you wonder if it took him multiple tries that took a long time

    • @knightshousegames
      @knightshousegames Před rokem

      @@evanflagg8386 I mean, definitely. You can see in previous videos him basically building his technological base to make this possible, like all the different experiments with his impeller system, optimizing the coal production process, improving his furnace designs. It was all to get to this point.

  • @gamingSlasher
    @gamingSlasher Před rokem +747

    The patience of this guy is amazing and now he made iron tool literally from scratch. Mind blowing.

    • @ScienceDiscoverer
      @ScienceDiscoverer Před rokem +35

      It's even more mind blowing to realise that 99% of the humans don't realise how hard it is to make even the simplest metal tool that they use every day. This is really sad.

    • @AnEnemyAnemone1
      @AnEnemyAnemone1 Před rokem

      @@ScienceDiscoverer 75 IQ thinking you’re a genius lmao

    • @freeza5545
      @freeza5545 Před rokem +26

      @@ScienceDiscoverer I do not agree that this is sad. It is only amazing. We have to remember someone built this life just so we could forget what it was really like. Should we ever forget? No. We should only be grateful.

    • @dombowombo3076
      @dombowombo3076 Před rokem +7

      @@ScienceDiscoverer To be fair making iron tools nowaday is far less hard. But it is amazing to see that the method he used here is basically the same one that is used still today just on a much smaller scale.

    • @argonaut741
      @argonaut741 Před rokem +2

      Literally; for dirt water and mud. I can wait for him sicovering and using oter materials as Copper or Bronze

  • @JaySmith-vq9oy
    @JaySmith-vq9oy Před rokem +4

    This is absolutely incredible. I had no idea this was possible.

  • @chiubacca82
    @chiubacca82 Před rokem

    Followed you for 5 years for this episode... totally worth the wait.

  • @aggressive_hugs7293
    @aggressive_hugs7293 Před rokem +1531

    This was nothing less than absolutely remarkable. The amount of effort put into such a small, but essential piece of metal really solidifies how much we really do take for granted all the small hand tools that have led us to this point in our technological advancement. Thank you for the massive amount of effort you put into making this, and THEN making a whole edited video about it. As I said before, truly fucking remarkable.🤙🏼🖤

  • @Tilnaor
    @Tilnaor Před rokem +671

    First of all: glad to see you active again.
    Second: Congratulations of reaching the Iron Age!
    You, in these series of videos, illustrate very well how each invention needed for the next - and why was so incredibly slow the progress.

    • @gay4pay882
      @gay4pay882 Před rokem +3

      @doire aintu thanks!!

    • @N911GT2
      @N911GT2 Před rokem +2

      It was slow because people like to break things down.

    • @mrPurplexedYT
      @mrPurplexedYT Před rokem +1

      @@N911GT2 It was slow because people needed to figure things out... he already has most of the knowledge and just needs to apply it

    • @WhittaII
      @WhittaII Před rokem +1

      I can't wait for 20 years to pass when this guy's making CPU's from his hut in the woods

    • @BANDERSJR
      @BANDERSJR Před rokem +3

      its also interesting how each new step cuts time from the next step. literally documenting how technology compounds to create exponential growth

  • @thesnowboundcabin
    @thesnowboundcabin Před 6 měsíci +1

    It's amazing how old a completely new knife can look.

  • @RSSiegfriege
    @RSSiegfriege Před rokem +2

    I have been waiting a long time before for you to reach Iron age tool, now you've reached it. literally the best survival channel I have seen so far since before until now.

  • @ReaperUnreal
    @ReaperUnreal Před rokem +168

    Really interesting to see how much more robust the iron knife is than a stone one. Really makes you appreciate what a step forward the iron age was.

    • @Legohaiden
      @Legohaiden Před rokem

      yep... and if he put that lil bad boy on the end of a length of wood... he'd have a formidable primitive weapon... an iron tipped spear.

    • @jerotoro2021
      @jerotoro2021 Před rokem +14

      It's interesting because he fully skipped any copper or bronze age, just with the knowledge that there's iron in that orange sludge. History would have been very different if people realized that way back then.

    • @dmurray2978
      @dmurray2978 Před rokem +7

      Some humans never even discovered metal, until Europeans and Asians brought it to them.

    • @flux2624
      @flux2624 Před rokem +11

      @@jerotoro2021 People were making iron this way long before the iron age. The small yields just made it unsuitable for weapons. Also most of it would have rusted away so there's little archaeological record.

    • @dodgeplow
      @dodgeplow Před rokem

      @@flux2624 How would they have known? He was able to do it because he knew to expect iron in that bacteria.

  • @agate_jcg
    @agate_jcg Před rokem +212

    I really like how this thinks about the problem of ironmaking from the start rather than copying historical sources: even the early bloomeries were big enough that you'd need an organized community to operate one. This shows that it can be done on a *much* smaller scale, reducing the work to something one person can handle, and it uses a very common but small-quantity source that's not commercially viable.
    Looks like your next step is to make a grinding wheel!

    • @Marci124
      @Marci124 Před rokem +23

      This is more interesting and involved archeological work than what goes into many a PhD nowadays, I imagine. There are similar projects, like smelting iron-laden sands and such, but this one-man amateur jobbie produced the most viable results yet.

    • @skeetsmcgrew3282
      @skeetsmcgrew3282 Před rokem +4

      Should be pretty simple to do, except for creating the hole in the wheel. I honestly have no idea how that could be done

    • @Celebmacil
      @Celebmacil Před rokem +11

      @@skeetsmcgrew3282 With a harder stone than the wheel is made of, and a fair bit of time and energy, I'd assume?

    • @Heterandria4mosa
      @Heterandria4mosa Před rokem +12

      @@skeetsmcgrew3282 I believe it can be done using wood spindles and depositing hard grit in the hole as you grind.

    • @faithnfire4769
      @faithnfire4769 Před rokem +10

      @@Celebmacil Hard rock on a stick and an apparatus to make it easy to spin. Or the good old 'human wrist' as you said.
      Better yet find a rock that already had a starting dent and go from there.

  • @Augustus_Imperator
    @Augustus_Imperator Před rokem

    This is without question the most interesting, exciting and compelling channel I found in the last year here on youtube.

  • @Pixelgamer28Yt
    @Pixelgamer28Yt Před rokem +2

    His friend: what were you doing this month?
    He: getting some iron
    His friend: in minecraft?
    He: no in real life

  • @DareToRS
    @DareToRS Před rokem +415

    I can't help but wonder how many collective human lifetimes' worth of discovery, experimentation, and innovation we just saw encapsulated in the process of divining an iron tool from bacteria.
    Congratulations, John!

    • @Northraider123
      @Northraider123 Před rokem

      this has to be at least 50 generations....considering how much fucking about each generation would need to do to even get to the point of "hey these rocks melt when fire gets hot" the first person to actually figure the whole thing out....person probably ended up the base of some early religion I'd bet

    • @UCannotDefeatMyShmeat
      @UCannotDefeatMyShmeat Před rokem +33

      Seriously, that had to be a ridiculously long period of trial and error

    • @Dullahan00
      @Dullahan00 Před rokem +20

      Iron ore deposits made by those bacteria in soils are sometimes known as "Bog Iron" and historically have been some of the easier and earliest exploited deposits in certain areas of the world. Its pretty cool tbh.

    • @terenceokane
      @terenceokane Před rokem

      SO MANY 'recipes' handed down for dozens of generations just to reach the next level. So many mistakes and happy accidents and right-place-right-times. To think it could have all started with just a hominid looking at a weird gloopy clump of lead next to a fire one day and realized they could shape it like they do stone.

    • @terenceokane
      @terenceokane Před rokem +2

      @@Dullahan00 That's awesome! I started getting into pre-history recently and have always loved anthro. Knowing that society spread for reasons like trade has always been basic stuff, but to start to learn that Britain had Tin and Cyrpus was named for it's copper, how much this all changed everything. Easy to nerd out!

  • @poemanx7297
    @poemanx7297 Před rokem +378

    I have watched this channel for awhile, and to see an iron tool made is nothing short of incredible. Congrats on the achievement, looking forward to future vids.

  • @Orpheonix
    @Orpheonix Před rokem

    @PrimitiveTechnology I'm so happy for you dude. Literally got up out of my couch and started cheering when you pulled the cast out and it was intact. 💪

  • @oldcomrade_5825
    @oldcomrade_5825 Před 6 měsíci +1

    when this vid came out, im sure it was a dream come true for many long-time viewers
    if you were in grade school when you saw Mr. Plant's older videos, you'd have either been a teenager or an adult when this came out lol

  • @olavl8827
    @olavl8827 Před rokem +276

    Congratulations. This is what everyone was hoping and waiting for. Now I'm sure that whoever first discovered that they could produce iron, immediately wanted MORE. The same applies here! I'm very curious to see how you will streamline and expand your iron making and discover primitive metalworking techniques.

    • @triopical6884
      @triopical6884 Před rokem +15

      He's gonna make a futuristic utopia from zero in the wild.

    • @olavl8827
      @olavl8827 Před rokem +2

      @@Feanux I'm pretty sure the invention of war predates upright walking in our ancestors, let alone metal technology.

    • @Bialy_1
      @Bialy_1 Před rokem

      @@olavl8827 I'm pretty sure that first iron for tools was taken out of meteorites as the oldest iron tools are made from steel that is full of nickel...
      Also your comment kinda ignores how hard/expensive is production of a charcoal and how crapy this tool is if you compare it with good quality stone tool.
      I saw a flint tool that was less than 1m under a constantly plowed field for who knows how many years and it was razor sharp 12-13 cm long 2cm wide blade with perfect flat triangle shape(3 to 4 mm tall triangle) all over its lenght.
      "Enlarged 10,000 times under an electron microscope, the edge of a steel scalpel blade 'looks like the Rocky Mountains,' said J. Jeffrey Flenniken of Washington State University.
      On the other hand, stone blades have keen edges because they are fashioned 'naturally.' He said they can be broken to the last molecule."
      You do not need an electron miscroscope to tell that this blade is not as sharp as a good quality stone tool...

    • @dreyvinnash
      @dreyvinnash Před rokem +7

      @@Bialy_1 sharpness is important, yes. but in the days of old, time had to be spent carefully to ensure survival in harsh environments. for that reason, a stone tool is less useful due to a more common need for replacements or repairs. yes, stones such as flint and obsidian may sharpen well, but against harder surfaces, they are likely to crack. for sharp tools, iron and steel are hard to beat for durability and longevity.

    • @heygek2769
      @heygek2769 Před rokem +1

      @@Bialy_1 Flint is brittle though, steel is a lot more reliable if you maintain it, it will last you a lifetime. Charcoal isnt expensive to produce at all in forested areas.
      You're also comparing 'good quality stone tools' with a man's first attempt at creating an iron tool, he didn't even forge it.

  • @juliajs1752
    @juliajs1752 Před rokem +465

    i really like that the subtitles are now even explanatory and educational, and not just descriptive. Awesome change!

    • @terrydrew7002
      @terrydrew7002 Před rokem +32

      Been watching him for years and never once did I know that he had subtitles explaining what he's doing 🤯

    • @juliajs1752
      @juliajs1752 Před rokem +16

      @@terrydrew7002 I think a great many people had that revelation at one point or another!

    • @VicJang
      @VicJang Před rokem +18

      @@terrydrew7002 well now you get to rewatch everything 😂

    • @GussGames
      @GussGames Před rokem

      TIL this too, spread the good word!

  • @WildRapier
    @WildRapier Před rokem +3

    Impressive! I used to run a PWS it was mostly for iron removal, which we oxidized with potassium permanganate and sodium hypochlorite. Of course we learned about iron feeding bacteria. Nice to see it put to use primitively instead of crushing iron ore.

  • @copee2960
    @copee2960 Před rokem

    Totally speechless ..every school kid should be made to watch this ...fantastic work.

  • @Clickspring
    @Clickspring Před rokem +1279

    Outstanding effort, awesome result, congratulations mate :)

    • @kkupsky6321
      @kkupsky6321 Před rokem +28

      When click spring appreciates yer doin great. Primitive rose engine is next haha

    • @robbiekavanagh2802
      @robbiekavanagh2802 Před rokem +33

      You best watch out Clickspring. This is only the beginning, he'll have a lathe in no time!

    • @shookings
      @shookings Před rokem

      Hey, no! You get back to your corner of CZcams.

    • @unlink1649
      @unlink1649 Před rokem +5

      the insane amount of work he put into this

    • @omarpeeps5109
      @omarpeeps5109 Před rokem +7

      So, I watched John make the iron this morning and was inspired to spend some time in my workshop.
      While I was working on filing out a hole, I said out loud "G'day Chris here, and welcome back to Clickspring".

  • @BlockHead1326
    @BlockHead1326 Před rokem +166

    Been waiting for iron tools since the first prill video. So glad to finally see it

    • @sneakypeacock8394
      @sneakypeacock8394 Před rokem +1

      Bro going to find diamonds in the next vid.

    • @EfficientTrout
      @EfficientTrout Před rokem

      glad people remember his old videos

    • @nekrataali
      @nekrataali Před rokem +1

      And IIRC in that video he only had a few ingots (like a couple of milligrams). Using the porous container to filter the iron from the water seems to have done the trick of getting lots of material quicker. I think in the first video he was just kind of scooping it out of the river and immediately cooking it? I'll have to go back and watch.

  • @krymz1
    @krymz1 Před rokem

    hands down best channel on youtube.

  • @TB-jl9fr
    @TB-jl9fr Před rokem +15

    I would love to see you casting a dozen of those iron ingots and forge them together making steel out of it :).

    • @kaneego6281
      @kaneego6281 Před rokem

      It wouldn't be steel, it would still just be a chunk of iron. Steel is created under very specific circumstances that are very hard to replicate with primitive tech

    • @TB-jl9fr
      @TB-jl9fr Před rokem

      @@kaneego6281
      Nope.

    • @devincasebeer4459
      @devincasebeer4459 Před rokem

      @@TB-jl9fr explain.

  • @dragonwithamonocle
    @dragonwithamonocle Před rokem +61

    I love how if you just watch the video, everything looks super simple and straightforward... Then you turn on the captions and start reading things like "collecting the dilute iron oxide precipitate" and realize this guy REALLY knows his stuff.

    • @lifewuzonceezr
      @lifewuzonceezr Před rokem +3

      Captions make the videos!!XooX

    • @Jay_in_Japan
      @Jay_in_Japan Před rokem +11

      No kidding! Though... "dilute iron oxide precipitate" is just verbose nerd talk for "rusty water" 🤓

    • @dragonwithamonocle
      @dragonwithamonocle Před rokem +4

      @@Jay_in_Japan Oh yeah, but it's a heck of a lot more technically specific than "rusty water," and the science talk lends a serious amount of cred to the channel that many people may not be expecting! Ya love to see it.

    • @emanwe01
      @emanwe01 Před rokem +4

      In a previous video he specifically mentioned calcining as a step when he was making mortar from ashes. He's definitely studied the chemistry behind what he's doing, and it shows.

  • @werce9120
    @werce9120 Před rokem +143

    This is a monumentally important tool for many things. I'm glad you were able to produce it with what little ore was there.

    • @lazyman7505
      @lazyman7505 Před rokem +17

      Well, not really. Iron knife at his 'level of civilization' is not much better than stone ones which are far easier to make and replace. Chisel would be far more useful for any possible stone work (can't really do any with just stone tools). But since it's cast iron, the usefulness is very limited either way. Making it into better form would be good next step.

    • @werce9120
      @werce9120 Před rokem +2

      @@lazyman7505 Yeah, a chisel might be stronger in certain cases. I'm thinking he could probably hybridize that head and partially convert it into a multitool of sorts. I don't think he has any flint blades, but I don't entirely remember all of this videos, so he might have something that cuts.

  • @yuukikonno6804
    @yuukikonno6804 Před rokem +1

    Imagine going out into the jungle and just finding a collection of primitive builds that he has made just sitting there. Would be amazing

  • @pinguplays1
    @pinguplays1 Před rokem +32

    We did it boys. We’re officially in the Iron Age

  • @savneetsinghrairai6823
    @savneetsinghrairai6823 Před rokem +1

    He did unbelievable work ...iron from bacteria n without any modern tools

  • @dionbouchard4638
    @dionbouchard4638 Před 7 dny

    Good job man! So exciting for what you are making! Many years passed, you are still the only one channel I want to watch every video. Thank you for sharing!

  • @Berkana
    @Berkana Před rokem +51

    I see that the knife started rusting even when you were sharpening it.
    Here's a trick I learned about making iron items rust resistant:
    When the iron item is covered in a thin coat of red rust, boil it in water. This converts the red rust, which is Fe2O3, into Fe3O4, which is black oxide. (The transformation is something like this: If you set the two formulae to have equal numbers of iron, they become Fe6O9 and Fe6O8. Boiling red rust in iron causes one of the oxygen atoms that are wedged into the lattice in a stressed position to migrate into an unstressed position, spreading it out into more of the iron crystal lattice.) Black oxide is not expanded relative to the lattice of iron, so it doesn't flake off and doesn't expose more iron under it to corrosion. Red rust is expanded relative to iron because of that one oxygen atom in a stressed position, which is why red rust will creep into iron and corrode it further, whereas black oxide protects the iron from further rust.
    This is called "rust bluing" and is what was used in old guns to make gun metal rust resistant, back before alloying with nickel and chromium was discovered. After rust bluing the iron, you can further make it rust resistant by heating it up until it is hot enough to make oil smoke, and quenching it in oil. This effectively "seasons" the iron, almost like how one would season a cast iron pan, but when used in combination with rust bluing, this affords pretty good rust resistance.

    • @kondziu1992
      @kondziu1992 Před rokem

      Okay... But how can he produce oil with PRIMITIVE TECHNOLOGY? :)

    • @NikoMoraKamu
      @NikoMoraKamu Před rokem +1

      @@kondziu1992 its easier than making iron tools, a lot of fruits, seeds , plants, woods have natural oils that are not that hard to extract with simple tools

    • @meunomejaestavaemuso
      @meunomejaestavaemuso Před rokem

      @@kondziu1992 how to make everything made oil from olives pretty much with just a press made out of wood and ropes

    • @Berkana
      @Berkana Před rokem

      @@kondziu1992 he can render the fat from a hunted animal, or he can grow or harvest an oil seed, grind it, and press it for oil.

  • @Nighthawkinlight
    @Nighthawkinlight Před rokem +1759

    Excellent work! Are you able to melt the iron in the open top crucible without worrying about oxidation because the surrounding charcoal reduces the rust back to iron again? Are there any natural fluxes in your area to improve the melt?

    • @nirodper
      @nirodper Před rokem +181

      I imagine the wood ash acts as flux, maybe deliberately putting a lot of wood ash on top helps

    • @nubreed13
      @nubreed13 Před rokem +255

      Charcoal is such a dry fire that it can pull the oxides right out of the iron. The co2 made by the fire acts as a shielding gas to prevent the iron from oxidizing and it also adds some carbon to the iron.

    • @plusmanikantanr
      @plusmanikantanr Před rokem +152

      @NightHawkInLight can you help John figure out how to get all the Spam Bots banned please ? I know some YT content creators now have scripts to find and block the spam comments. @4ncient people and @D3felsts or some such bot is doing "Reply" to peoples posts including yours here.

    • @theEikern123
      @theEikern123 Před rokem +32

      fine sand can be a substitute to borax
      why not give that a shot?

    • @dmurray2978
      @dmurray2978 Před rokem +91

      More advanced than subsaharan Africa

  • @wiscgaloot
    @wiscgaloot Před 5 měsíci

    I was very skeptical that this would work, but I'm absolutely stunned and impressed by what you accomplished here.

  • @aetherisme1785
    @aetherisme1785 Před rokem +1

    Man really started history on season one

  • @Nomad_Audio
    @Nomad_Audio Před rokem +385

    I knew this day would come! Watching your technology improve over the years has been fascinating, but this is certainly a massive milestone. The new blower seems a very big step towards achieving the temps you need for iron smelting, and great to see that the iron yield is improving over previous attempts.
    Keep it up with the quality uploads...they're only getting better at the moment, and your detailed breakdown in the description greatly appreciated.

    • @scruffex3736
      @scruffex3736 Před rokem +2

      Fun fact: turn on subtitles for detailed live commentary

    • @SpartansAndHeroes
      @SpartansAndHeroes Před rokem +3

      Turns out this was all fake and they have machinery

    • @metformin3154
      @metformin3154 Před rokem

      @@SpartansAndHeroes What makes you say that?

    • @ionlywantedtocomment3895
      @ionlywantedtocomment3895 Před rokem

      @@metformin3154 i think its a joke coming from this video czcams.com/video/Hvk63LADbFc/video.html that sunnyv2 did about fake primitive building channels

    • @0Synergy
      @0Synergy Před rokem +13

      @@SpartansAndHeroes did you even watch the fucking video sunny made? Hes shows Primitive Technology is legit the copy cats are not.

  • @TR_Conqueror
    @TR_Conqueror Před rokem +90

    All these videos help us to understand the level of advancement humans have achieved over thousands of years and how immensely we must appreciate the technology we currently have... Imagine what great effort it took only to craft this small iron tip...

    • @caboose9843
      @caboose9843 Před rokem +5

      Imagine being there at the tail end of the stone age and some dude pulls up with a shiny rock thats even better than normal rocks. That would literally shake my understanding of life. Its absolutely crazy how many innovations mankind has gone through to reach our status today

  • @ramonhamm3885
    @ramonhamm3885 Před 11 měsíci

    I've seen the huge amount of iron filings that can be taken out of beach sand with a magnet too, another good source. Great video.

  • @smashingpencils
    @smashingpencils Před rokem +3

    6:25 I swear each muscle on each of his fingers is bigger than my bicep...

  • @nasty_jazz
    @nasty_jazz Před rokem +189

    Jumped right over the bronze age! Congrats on a big milestone, John. Its been amazing to see the development over the years. Even more amazing is trying to imagine all of the labor, research, time- all the off camera work that you've put into your project!

    • @tiagomrns
      @tiagomrns Před rokem

      it's iron though, not bronze

    • @nonec384
      @nonec384 Před rokem +12

      cuz peoplo think the order is bronze to iron but iron vastly more comun , the places that reaky lacked copper jumped right over to iron

    • @Aaronrose575
      @Aaronrose575 Před rokem +4

      African cultures like Nok also skipped bronze age, actually, I think in Africa only Egypt and its surroundings used bronze other than ornaments, the rest of Africa went straight to iron age, either for Roman/Carthaginian influence, or for own merits

    • @newtybot
      @newtybot Před rokem +14

      @@tiagomrns my dude
      He JUMPED over the Bronze Age
      As in, SKIPPED IT, as in IN THE IRON AGE

    • @dmurray2978
      @dmurray2978 Před rokem

      @@Aaronrose575 not in subsaharan Africa. They stayed stone age til evil Europeans came lmao

  • @JoeNevermind
    @JoeNevermind Před rokem +1184

    This is such an unbelievable Achievement!
    I don't even dare to imagine how many Days and hours you spent, to reach this point!
    The shaking of your Hands, as you relieve the precious piece of your work from it's mold speaks more than words!
    I love your work, your videos and your style!
    My deepest respect for this - and.. have fun with your knife!

    • @RollingxBigshot
      @RollingxBigshot Před rokem +9

      15 minutes

    • @nauseoustracks6430
      @nauseoustracks6430 Před rokem

      @@RollingxBigshot actually?

    • @megasupreme9985
      @megasupreme9985 Před rokem +27

      @@nauseoustracks6430 It was roughly 15 minutes to smelt the iron he retrieved, but it took longer to create the buckets, collect the water, evaporate it, build the furnace, etc

    • @megasupreme9985
      @megasupreme9985 Před rokem +27

      Achievement get: Acquire Hardware

    • @CJ-wh7ik
      @CJ-wh7ik Před rokem

      You know it's fake? 😂