5 Beginner/Mid-Level Habits - Smash Ultimate
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Bad habits can always hold you back and keep you from performing your best. It's easy to get discouraged and not know what they are or how to fix them, but this video should likely give you some insight on just that.
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Bold of you to assume I can think fast enough to plan my next move
Bold of you to assume, I can think
@@kappapond Bold of you to assume I can
@@rekilu2640 bold of you to assume
barduk4 Bold of you
JuanPa12 Anims bold
Here's a low level habit. Not recovering after being knocked offstage
Not to be that guy, but how do you not
I've played smash with some people who just fall to their death once they're knocked offstage like they have no other options. Plus they don't know what an up b is
@@marcuslohbihler1538
They aren't noobs, they're just mentally deficient.
and people jumping after knocked offstage is arguably worse
MLGgaming actually do you play against characters with bad recoveries? A person would often see that they lose their double jump and fall to their death without up b simply because they already know they are not making it back because they don’t have a high enough recovery
>Played smash for years
I have no idea what your talking about.
Been playing since the 64 era and I can relate.
Just because you play the same way for years doesn’t mean you’re going to know the terms
@@DragonChasm I'm pretty sure 10 year old me didn't care to get "Competitive"
same
You're*
"go for a ridiculous edge guard that's obviously not going to work"
... but I want to
I do this one a ton. I send my opponent off stage and then go for yoshi short hop fair almost every time. Yoshi fair is a good move (I'm pretty sure...), but if the opponent still has their movement options, I'm prolly better off going for nair or even just throwing some eggs at them.
...but imagine it worked
Every mario main ever. I'll be below the stage as cloud so I can recover propely and hes offstage about as high as the top platform on battlefield throwing out a forward air, even though I can't reach that if I tried
But what if it does work tho
I mean I could go for a move with a generally large hitbox that covers the area which I think my opponent is going to move towards but forward aerial amirite
So basically: Be erratic and learn to edgeguard
I suck at edge guarding. Goddamit.
@@solvemproblerstudios5889 go into practice mode and practice running off stage and throwing out attacks. Learn what you can and cant do when off the stage and apply that to a real game
@@Micaiah1064 "Edgeguarding doesn't even make you a good player" explain
@@Talazar Edgeguarding is something that even a noob can do if they're just feeling like a dick, I don't feel like you can really call anything skillful if it's primary purpose is to get a rise out of your opponent
@@Micaiah1064 it isn't. It is a proven effective way to win as we have seen from many high tier players
Top comments.
1%: sensible advice
9999999%: My opponent can't read me if even I don't know what I'm going to do next
"This guy is a master at diversion"
Meanwhile... "We're lost aren't we?"
That first clip was actually a misinput lol.
You're a sonic main, aren't you??
Judge. Judge all you want
My shield still will not go down
-Literally every character once G&W lands a judge on the shield
You are very good at counting to 100.
How to git good (based on what the people I play against on-line do):
1)Choose character with projectiles
2) *B*
Here's my counter to that
> Pick Mr. Game & Watch
> Hold Down B Forever
3) Hope you get lucky and it's not a deflector character.
2) spam fast fall aerials because lazy and safe.
Projectile??? MAKARAKARN!!
Link 100
"All ledge options are reactable"
Yeah, unless you have shit reaction time like I do.
They all have unique animations, too, of which I found tend to be similar across most characters.
If they do a flip, their going to jump. If they swing out first, it will be a get-up attack.
If they just hop up, simple get up.
And lastly pulling up (the character will not stand as they climb the ledge) shows they will roll.
Looking for these can help you react faster.
Preach!
some day I will ascend from plebhood and you will have the credit for it
same... someday
being bad at smash sucks
I got 3.8 mil gsp and somehow didn’t go to elite smash. although it wasn’t with my main somehow...
Its around 3,975,000@@momo382712
Kingtata Visit elitegsp.com if you want to know about where you need to be to get in. Or don’t. It’s up to you.
Love your videos
Sounds too complex, gonna stick to spamming Wolf's blaster
I played someone like that in a tournament
@@zoom9226 who won? You cant just say something like that and skip out on the details!
@@d1mensi0n70 the wolf probably won. Looool. That laser is annoying
I made my friend pay for that as I inhaled it and killed him lol
@@thebucketmanj8525 the *abortion won
So, don't be a video game boss with move patterns. Gotcha.
thank you for explaining it like that
@@eltiolavara9 Still, there's much more to that. You need to know what right options are at your disposal at any situation
You can bait people by being repetitive until they get the pattern, and switch to your plan B play style.
@@hidinginyourcloset you can bait people by playing as lucas and literally only spamming his specials and nothing else
@@eltiolavara9 if you're playing with people who have 3 hours of experience then yeah.
0:15 that marth was gonna get destroyed by that ganon
3:42 yuuup definitly did
More like:To be continued
getupattack
Looks like he could have timed his getup to avoid it
Top 10 photos taken before disaster
Yo can I not just walk up slowly and down smash?
Yeah u can... u really can
I got my Capt. Falcon into elite smash by slowly walking up to opponents and falcon punching. Worked every time for some reason unknown to mankind
Love that reference
HE JUST SLOWLY WALKED UP AND DOWN SMASHED?!?
Y’all rarted
*Backs up and smash attacks*
You just made me spit my water back into my cup, almost onto my phone.
My biggest mistake is being born
Now that was an unpredictable move
The good thing is that it's not your mistake, it's your parent's. But don't let that get you down, you're not alone.
Now that was out of left field
Please dont think that way
Underrated comment poggers
Some super basic tips that I've learned along the way...
Aerials: Press Jump Button (Default X & Y) and Attack Button (Default A) to do a short hop aerial. Additionally pressing a direction will change the aerial attack type/direction. Experiment with this to get a feel for these types of attacks.
Shields: Super important. Default button L or R. Use it constantly. It should be your go to button after most actions. You will start to pick up when to use it and when not to quickly as you play.
Dodgeing: Default Shield button (L or R) + a Direction. Use this when you anticipate an attack or grab is coming so you can avoid the attack and potentially punish the miss. Note you can do an dodge in the air aswell by pressing shield or shield + Direction.
Grabing: Default button Z. Use this when an opponent is shielding. Once grabbed press Z to strike them rappidly while you have them in place. Press a direction yo throw them. You can hold an opponent longer the higher % they are.
Tilt attack vs Smash attack. In control settings switch your C-stick to tilt attacks. This will make your life much easier. Titlt attacks are fast attacks that can KO at high %. Smash attacks are slow attacks that can KO at moderate % depending on your character and opponents character. Experiment with both tilts and smashes to know how and when to use them. It's important to note that most smash attacks can be punished if you miss or your opponent fully blocks the attack. Most Titlt attacks when used properly wont be punishable even if you miss or are blocked.
Last thing. Watch pros play the character you play. Watching what abilities they use and when, will help you figure out that characters optimal strengths and their weaknesses.
But most importantly. Have fun and don't get discouraged. Try and friend online opponents that are good sports and are near your skill level. Setting up arenas is a great way to hone your skills quickly with frequent matches and a more positive match atmosphere.
Hope this is helpful to someone. :)
This is great help as I've just gotten the game. Thank you!
most helpful comment in this video, thank you!!
Good advice! Thanks!
While shield is a good option out of most actions most of the time, constantly doing it has increasingly diminishing returns, as it becomes highly predictable.
I'd say I'm a lower mid-level player (Idk where 3.4m - 4.4m GSP falls, but I'm in that range, some days I'll drop down, and other's I'll get a good streak and gain a bunch), and I'll admit that I don't use tilts nearly as often as I should. I also hardly ever grab. Probably have an average of 0.5 grabs per match. I know it's not good, I just can't ever pull it off, and when I do, it's wasted bc I don't react quick enough to know the best option.
broke: smash tutorial
woke: vocaloid song recommendation every video
PFFT
YES
@@disgustof-riley8338 i agree
Me except everything is either a random kids channel or a peppa pig video -and I want to die-
The ledge pressure video would be crazy helpful. People like me who don’t have smash experience and just got into it for ultimate struggle with learning the ledge and getting back from it. Seeing a high level player talk about it would be beyond helpful and would improve mine, and others gameplay
Cheeseman jump once to get off stage to ledgeguard, that way you’ll know you always have your 2nd jump saved to get back, thats the most basic thing
Tl;dr experience is the best teacher, smash ultimate is a lot like smash 4 and melee so find videos for those games.
I highly recommend checking out videos for old smash games. They may have different advanced tech, but the same general rules apply through most all of the smash games. It's a 2d platform fighter series. Smash 4 for Wii u and 3ds has a lot of the same logic as ultimate. However, I recommend just playing online a lot. It's similar to how, no matter the skill of a martial artist, they'll never be a perfect fighter without ever being in a fight. You can spend all day in training mode, but you'll be surprisingly how much information you can learn, and how quickly, in online play. 6ou start to pick up on things. When you fight someone better than you, you definitely notice what stands out that makes them better. On top of that, as you get better, your global smash power rises and you fight better and better opponent's. When you get out of lower tier, you start getting whooped by guys in mid tier that do things that you don't.
ZeRo made a video on it as well
Just try to hit niggas that are off the stage
@@mattbergz2791 you can also juts run off the stage to spike someone that's DI-ing under the ledge and keep your 2nd jump, all you need to know is how to not lose your 2nd jump
are you assuming i have the mental capability to actually plan what i'm doing
So to summarize. Being predictable allows good players to predict your next move. 👌😅
Joesph Joestar
Can’t be predicted if you don’t even know what to do
Turns out I've been playing Smash for years and I'm not even at beginner level...
You can play this for years but you lowkey kinda need to get in 1 vs 1 fights otherwise you wont get punished for the misstakes and you cant really spot your misstakes so easily
Yea, my beginner mistakes are throwing projectiles backwards and pressing the wrong button during recovery.
I’ll just keep planting and watering my sapling..
You assume that I even use the shield to begin with.
"As good as this options are, they are all beatable"
*game and watch's up b intensifies*
Pro Smash players literally sound like they're speaking a different language.
dont do the same move after shield
game and watch: hmmhhhmh
This video makes me realize how bad I am at this game. In fact, I barley ever remember to use my shield at all.
Thank you for posting this man! I have a smash tournament at my school coming up soon and I can learn a lot from this video!
Dang sounds fun good luck!
This is literally one of the most useful Smash channels on CZcams. You make the videos both enjoyable and understandable. Thank you
Hey BananaBoy I just wanna say your content is very well made and helpful. Keep making video man
"Nobody plays the game perfectly"
*MkLeo enters the chat*
Peppa even MkLeo isn’t punishable and has small gaps in his gameplay
MkLeo doesn't play the game perfectly. It just seems that way because he plays Joker, a character in which your mistakes are forgiven a la faster Arsene charge times.
*meanwhile he gets beat by ZeRo*
Thanks for not stretching out the video as long as possible and making a nice, informational video
Im so excited to play this game online. I never played any smash with real people (except my brothers)
Ah, the heart of every fighting game. Be unpredictable, relentless, and be able to adapt.
This video was actually super helpful and well edited, thanks for the info dude!
I've been playing Smash in a serious manner since about a year before 4 was released, and I still learned a couple things from this video, namely spacing. Glad I watched this, so now I have a better idea of what to look out for what I'm doing wrong. Thanks man
Please do “Frostbite was pretty cool, i guess”
I think your commenting on the wrong channel.
@@soniuigi43 nope i think he's on the right channel
@Failingpepper 11 Because he is
@Failingpepper 11 Frostbite is a tournament for smash bros, and it was held a few days ago. Tweek, a Wario player, recently won this year in the tournament. MKleo was 2nd, and he played Ike and Lucina.
@@mrbobdragon5548 Tweek went beast mode those last few games!
What I find really funny with low level players:
They forget three things: the grab, the shield, and the Up-B Recovery
watched this all the way through and was blessed with some gothic and loneliness at the end. Good taste in music my dude
Bananaboy: "Nobody plays perfectly"
MkLeo: "Step aside mere mortals"
What about not using the shield
I know that used to my habit when i first started playing smash
Jeff My name my friend on school never used shield but he almost win every tournament/games of smash we played
I have a friend who recently incorporated grabs in his gameplay( rarely grabbed before) and now has really gotten better results.
@@zanyskeleton5291 Makes sense. Playing Smash without grabs is like playing rock paper scissors without paper.
I need help with:
*Anything that's required to play smash effectively and well.*
A controller is pretty important.
What would be the most effective controllers exactly? I have friends who use different controllers but I just use the switch. I get fairly good results online. My GSP record being 5.7 mil. Is there a good controller to improve my game?
roll and forward smash
Don't spam b and don't try to tank every attack
My friend introduced me to your videos and I've never been able to understand Smash videos better than I have yours. Even IzAw doesn't top this. Thanks for taking time to teach. 😄
Wow guilty of all of these except not applying ledge pressure. Trying to break these habits now! Thanks for the video.
I can tell this will help me, thank you
who is this person in your profile pic and why does everyone have him as their profile pic
Treshee
czcams.com/video/Oiiaa3btFss/video.html
Your answers remain in that link, if it does not answer all questions search the channel.
Thanks. So far I have collected like 4 usernames with identical profile pic. It's amazing!
Thanks so much for helping me get better at this great game.
This video was great! Thanks. I need to find more stuff for beginning players. It was nice to actually feel like I have some things I can go and use.
omg this has literally the most helpful Smash video I’ve ever seen. Good video.
Don’t be like LowTierGod (watch toxic salty compilations of him)
Hey Maki! How ya doin?
this is funny
I had one of those days today. Smash can make a guy salty NGL
The dude who loses to a Ganon using Simon and calls the Ganon trash and bans anyone who praised that Ganon?
HottieTobby yep
Love this video. Subbed.
Zero's ledge trapping video is actually really solid. Depending on the character matchup, many characters can potentially answer all 5 get up options from the right position.
This channel is great, keep up the content my dude
Wy don't more people watch these videos? The quality is amazing. I was surprised when I saw that he didn't have like 100K subs or higher. He deserves it.
Give it a bit of time, he will at this rate
well I watched it and know even less of how to enhance my playstyle (which depends highly on things like getting the opponent to think I never shield or dodge before switching up.)
You’re the best smash CZcamsr!!
Just when you started talking about spacing I realized I have actually become really good at it. Never noticed until now, thanks.
I like your stuff dude I subscribed and you totally described me at 2:00 lol every single launch is me immediately reacting like a moth to a lightbulb to chase after them and attempt a meteor smash with samus like every single time hahaha
"Doing the same thing out of a combo"
DOWNLOAD COMPLETE
To be unpredictable, I have started randomly mashing buttons.
John Mejia lol. 🤣😂
@@nicolemartinez6440 i mean valid strat to spam pk fire
@John Mejia True dat. 😝
Congrats to 100k Banana boy ❤️❤️
Thanks for the vid. I believe i’m more of an intermediate player now, but it always helps to be aware of bad habits
Rolling towards an opponent is a habit i can't get out of
try playing without the shield button on to get out of it. i had that habit too but it's pretty easy to get out of. just know when to use it.
I easily fall under the “not nearly confident enough” category when it comes to offstage play. I may technically be the one with the advantage in that state, but you won’t fall to your death if you whiff something in neutral. So as stupid as it is, I usually just wait for the opponent to recover and hope I’ll be able to knock them off the stage again.
“Don’t go for ridiculous edge guards that obviously won’t work”
Mario mains: did you mean: forward aerial?
Every online mario be like
congrats on your first 1 mil video!
Every habit you explained I would say, “pshhh no I don’t do that” then you name another thing beginners do, and I realized oh shoot that’s me...
5 Habits for REAL NOOBS
1. Always Dash Attack
2. Always rely on special attacks
3. Forget to jump and just press up B
4. Don't or forget to use sheild
5. Never change their gameplay
(Tbh the video is for habits of amateurs)
Super epic sword character tip (marth, roy,)
if someone shields your side-b, and if they dont expect it, you can use the down input version of dancing blade. the down version (or green, i guess) can apply more pressure and if your opponent parries the final hit of side-b (which some people will) the multiple hits of the finisher will hit them anyway, as they only parried the first hit. And if they do shield, it can often shield poke, which is pretty good.
This was actually more informative than I thought it would be
Bless you for thinking I've got the hang shielding already.
*When both players in a 1 v 1 can both read each others moves*
Good video! You explained things in an easy to understand way
This was actually very simple and helpful. Appreciated.
SOUND LEVELS. That end screen music assaulted my ears, bruh.
agreed i got to the end and i was like "wtf is this weeb crap"
Its yo boy,
*BANANA BOY*
*boi
BananaBoy: Don't use the same OOS-option over and over again
G&M mains: I'm sorry what? **Up-B's at frame 5**
You were on YEET Smash. You have reached the pinnacle of success.
great informative video, but consider lowering the volume of the music at the end
Has anyone else lose a layer of skin while practicing
Sammy Sandwich makes sense the strong urge to dye my hair seems to be the next symptom
Yup, suprised that my thumb isn't bone only from practicing my Ken.
If you cant see bone then your not trying hard enough.
Y my pp hurt?
Thanks for making this video, I never really thought about this but now I will do better
Actually a really good and informative video. Good job
nah i'll just dress up as ZeRo and pretend to be him instead
...
Down bad man 😔
2:55 It's a lot harder than you think to get precisely that close or notice that someone is precisely that close, let alone react within milliseconds to such a quick and tiny detail, let alone ALSO predict what an opponent will probably do next. In general, I think you underestimate the actual difficulty of "simple" things like rolling, spacing, and shield grabbing, and combos, even with what you call "noob misakes". Watching this video just makes me feel like I'm at a level even lower than whatever it is you call a newbie.
If you don't wanna try to get better at these things, you won't get better. Simple as that
@@jcmm99 The thing is, I'm interested in getting better at the game as a whole. This video is talking about getting better at 1v1 (sometimes 2v2) stock battles using a certain playstyle on only ~9% of the most boring and generic maps in the game with items and stage hazards turned off, meaning that the strategies the video talks about may only apply to the metagame that exists within that ruleset, and not the rest of the game.
There's absolutely stuff I could improve on that's universal, like shielding, dodging, and probably teching, but ledge pressuring doesn't really matter that much if the stage I'm playing on doesn't have a ledge.
IɴSɪmpʟeTermsJordaɴ this video was made more for those who want to improve in a purely competitive and technical aspect. If you want to play competitively, no items is essential. Same for stages that give each character equal chance
@@jcmm99 If those stages give each character an equal chance, then why are certain fighters more or less viable? Fighters like Samus are obviously not gonna do well on tiny stages like Battlefield. In my opinion, that's why Ultimate changed stage selection to take place before fighter selection.
My point is that if you get too used to playing exclusively in "safe" stages with predictable conditions, you're gonna get thrown off by the rest of the stages' hazards. That's why I believe it's important to practice under as many different combinations of settings as possible in order to be ready for anything, not just what can happen in 1v1 3-stock Final Destination No Items -Fox only- fights.
IɴSɪmpʟeTermsJordaɴ you're missing the point that this is a video for those who want to improve competitively. That means playing under the competitive rulesets. Which means only certain stages and no items. What's the point in trying to get good competitively if you're gonna play with jank like items?
"Don't grab OOS when the opponent is too far."
"So you mean I should dash grab?"
Your video was very helpful. My problem is that I was used to the Melee gimmicks, so Ultimate changed a bunch of things and it’s hard getting rid of old habits. I KNOW I have some of these issues (ledge guarding is my weakness) and I know what I have to do, but either I’m very stubborn or I forget about them.
Thanks a lot for this video man. Helps a lot
At first When I found this channel I was confused and didn’t know who you were. I’ve watched tourtememts with u and watched some of your other videos and now u are the best lol thxs
The heck is a tourtememt? Is that some sort of exotic vacation guide?😂
SegaDisneyUniverse Sorry for my spelling. I can get good grades, and play smash, but I CANNOT spell
@@sirk603 Okay then.🤗
*spam roll and projectiles online* EZ
*Laughs in Ness*
Thanks I actually needed this
Great video and filled with awesome information! Ty
I’ve been playing since brawl, and I still have the habits
i still tend to have habits 3 + 4 and i've also been playing since brawl
@BananaBoySSB So i need help with something related to this. I've been trying to get better at reading my opponent's tactics as i play, instead of focusing on my character (which is actually Yoshi, if that helps at all). It's been working to some degree. Im still new at it but Ive been able to do things like punish a fox that constantly goes for up tilt setups at low percent and side B approaches off the ledge when he's at disadvantage. My problem arises when I figure out what my opponent does. It's almost like my brain pinpoints a habit they have and then clicks into "Oh that's what I gotta do to punish this guy" mode. Take the up tilting fox, for example. He is constantly trying to get me in the air and get under me. I fell for it twice or so before i started preemptively nairing when he approached or down b if i was already in the air. Works great for the first stock or two, maybe the first match. But then my opponent adapts to my adaptation and I end up kind of lost and start reverting to bad habits of pressing too many buttons and throwing out unsafe options. That's not to say i can't re-adapt. But it takes me longer than i feel like it should and i lose sets because of it....so i guess my question to you is, what is your mentality in games in regards to reading your opponent? How do you tell when they've changed their playstyle to adapt to yours and that you need to approach the fight differently? Is there a way to predict your opponent changing their playstyle before they do so? Kind of a loaded question but I figured I'd ask another Yoshi main so that i might understand it better.
I’m no professional player by any means (pretty trash tbh), but I want to toss in my 2 cents because I know exactly what you’re talking about. What you described is basically conditioning. That’s when you punish a player for doing something so they stop that and do something else. Technically, it’s a good thing. To answer your question on how to predict if the enemy will adapt to your adaptation, I find it best to analyze the player’s over all skill.
A good player will be much more likely to adapt than a bad player would. If you’re at a tournament or are consistently fighting high level opponents, it’s safe to assume they will adapt to what you’re doing.
That’s part of what the video suggests, to stay unpredictable so that your opponent can’t adapt to one strategy.
Again my 2 cents, it doesn’t really stop me from getting bodied lol.
In this case, the opponent conditioned you first, then you conditioned them on your punish.
People talk about neutral game in the sense of stage placement, but let's talk about it metaphysically. Your strategy was a reaction to an offensive, so before the opponent can aggress again, you should probably initiate an approach to put them on the defensive.
I just started playing ultimate competitively after having it since release. This video helped a lot
Love the vid, great sense of humor
please do a video on how to ledge guard (when they are recovering to the ledge and when they are getting off the ledge... i have problems punishing ledge options)
Idk the tech but attacking back you can punish by just outspacing, tho I believe they will be ready to attack soon after as they are grounded, tho there's likely some lag there. If they climb without attack, they may be more agressive as they can come out with any move as you likely showed caution and kept distance. More lag/less invincibility possible here as they're normal attacks. As for jumping, you can try to juggle from that but look out for where they try to land and their next move. Overall, while the options appear strong due to invincibility/speed, they are also predictable as they only have three options, so learn the spacing and lag on these to find openings to punish.
some characters are better at this than others, and each character has its own unique strategy which is why it's not gone into depth here. but for every character, the basic idea of prepositioning, laying traps, and being comfortable playing at, near, and beneath the actual ledge is how to get started. to get more into detail you need to go to a character specific guide because each character plays the ledge vastly different than others.
My absolute downfall= my shit dodging skills and pretty much everything in this video.
But I don't care because the game is fun :D
This video was awesome and earned you my sub. Thank you
Out of all the videos I've watched this is the first one where I feel like I learned something technical
2:01 My piranha plant is somehow nearly in elite smash even though I am constantly on the ledge from being thrown off but somehow keep winning. Its so silly
Am i good player?
I spam only robs side B.
No you're not xD
(I assume you're joking. If you are, I am also joking.)
no
Just bop ROB on the head when they SideB
thank you for properly explaining spacing, I was confused with it and didn't know what people meant when people said "the key to cloud is neutral and spacing"
I knew all of this already, but this could be very helpful to some of my friends. Thank you!