How To Read Wind | Try This One Old School Trick!

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  • čas přidán 1. 07. 2024
  • One old school trick that will teach you how to read wind. Today Joel shows you how to evaluate the wind you're seeing on the range and use an old-school formula to accurately dope the wind for long range shooting.
    Formula =
    Range in yards times the wind in mph divided by the wind constant = wind hold in moa. Multiple that number again by .3 to get the wind hold in mils. To find the wind constant for your caliber use google. ;)
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Komentáře • 76

  • @makingitbetter6983
    @makingitbetter6983 Před 3 lety +6

    True heart of a marksman shares his thoughts and fair ideas! Really appreciated!

  • @wolverinekut
    @wolverinekut Před 2 lety +2

    Great job! Thank you Sir 👍💯🔥

  • @paulscharf8704
    @paulscharf8704 Před 3 lety

    Really appreciate your videos.

  • @JeremyGilliam
    @JeremyGilliam Před 5 lety +1

    Nice impact. You got in the PRO side which is good.

  • @billmartin554
    @billmartin554 Před 3 lety

    This was exceptional.

  • @bryanmarks4070
    @bryanmarks4070 Před 5 lety +7

    I just use the frank galli. Method. Use the first number in the g1 bc and that’s your 5mph bracket double for 10 triple for 15. He explains it in his pod cast. It works for me and is always .1 from my ballistics calculator. Or right on. Check it out.

    • @l3thw318
      @l3thw318 Před rokem

      Could You link the podcast Please?

  • @Garyalarson1
    @Garyalarson1 Před 5 lety +2

    Last week in TN I simply used the rough estimator describe by Frank Galli of .1 MIL or every 100 yard for a 5mph wind. So I held .5 at 500 and .9 at 900. Worked very nicely. A bit easier than using a Kestrel or calculator. Might want to check it out.

    • @PrecisionRifleNetwork
      @PrecisionRifleNetwork  Před 5 lety +1

      Gary Larson already made a video about that method a few weeks ago. Works well.

    • @fkin8shyt
      @fkin8shyt Před 3 lety

      @@PrecisionRifleNetwork What video is that?

    • @ianschultz9383
      @ianschultz9383 Před rokem +2

      How do you calculate your constant

  • @escape2204
    @escape2204 Před rokem

    Hey i am completely green it that subject, never had a sniper scope in my hand, please explain or refer to video explaining how did you translate that math into a scope, how did you use that final number on a reticle or on those knobs on the scope. Thank you!

  • @Prometheuss.cannabis.corner

    How do you figure out what your constant is on a 6.5?

  • @cmhwilder
    @cmhwilder Před 3 lety +2

    Awesome video. Good tips. I predicted you would hit too far left. I think you guessed the wind spot on in this case. I believe your constant is incorrect. With 147g hornady match, my 500 yd constant is 18. 300-400yd is 20. 800-1000yd is 17. At 500 that would be a wind call of approx 2 moa instead of 2.5. Regardless your load, I wouldn't think it would calculate that much of a difference in constant. (D x W)/windcall = your constant; if the data in your ballistics chart is input correctly.

    • @PrecisionRifleNetwork
      @PrecisionRifleNetwork  Před 3 lety +1

      Crybaby Blues I can’t argue with a math guy. Not that I don’t “want” to. I simply can’t. lol
      I got my constant for that gun and ammo from a DMR class I took with The Site. Jim Kauber is an ex Seal Sniper.
      I’m not saying you’re wrong or that he’s infallible, just that he knows more than me and I’ll take his word for it. lol

    • @cmhwilder
      @cmhwilder Před 3 lety +1

      Jim can be 10x better than me and still make a small mathematical error. lol Not being argumentative, just trying to fix one of your variables. We know its not a constant, because the number shrinks continuously with increase in distance. So we choose a midway point (constant) for practicality. You reverse the math in your Ballistics charts using your wind formula, ie: 7x5=35/2.5moa=14......7x5=35/1.96moa=17.85...etc, to get your "constant". IF you input your Ballistics chart wind drift data adjusting for a 1 mph wind. No ego homie, just tossing ya a tidbit. It will also help you find your constant at any distance you want. Its just reversing the math is all. My hornady 4dof says .28moa at 1mph at 500 yards. 7mph is .28x7=1.96. So 7x5=35/1.96=17.85. I round to 18. Even if yours varies slightly based on your location, temp, barrel length, powder-load, etc it won't be but a few hundredths of moa. A constant of 14 is entering into .308 territory. And we know 6.5 creedmoor smokes .308 in wind deflection.

    • @PrecisionRifleNetwork
      @PrecisionRifleNetwork  Před 3 lety

      Crybaby Blues thanks, but you lost me. #mathishard

    • @cmhwilder
      @cmhwilder Před 3 lety +1

      @@PrecisionRifleNetwork The math is easy, explaining math is hard lol. I edited the last comment. Trust me, man, use 18. You'll tighten your wind holds I promise. 6.5 creedmoor deserves it. Distance x Wind then divide by your windcall (moa) and you'll get your constant.

    • @PrecisionRifleNetwork
      @PrecisionRifleNetwork  Před 3 lety

      @@cmhwilder Thanks

  • @Hudson4426
    @Hudson4426 Před 5 lety +3

    Hold up, wait a minute... i feel like im missing some information in order yo try this myself. You get the wind by using the chart and reading vegetation, i get that. Then you multiply by a wind constant that at your distance was 14. So i assume that constant changes depending on range? Do you have a chart for that? Then multiply again by .3 for mils... plus whatever value the wind is blowing from.

    • @PrecisionRifleNetwork
      @PrecisionRifleNetwork  Před 5 lety +6

      Hudson as I said in the description, google search for wind constants. You should easily find a bunch of articles and charts.
      The reason I worded it like that is because some people say the constant changes based on some variables and some people say you use one constant for everything. I was trying to acknowledge that.
      I personally just use 14 for everything because #1, I don’t need a wind constant at all below 300 yards. And #2, from 400-1000 my constant works fine. It might and possibly should change beyond 1000y but I never shoot that far.

    • @isaachousley325
      @isaachousley325 Před 3 lety +1

      Theres an old wwii rifle training video that describes guessing wind speed and determining wind holds. The formula for the hold was (A*B)/10= number of windage clicks, where A equals the range in hundreds of yards (ie 500 yards=5, 1000 yards= 10, ect) and B is the wind speed in mph. This essentially gives you the wind hold in moa as the windage knob on garands is 1 moa clicks. I believe that the 10 is the constant for m2 ball ammo

  • @fubuh8r
    @fubuh8r Před 2 lety +1

    Is there a chart available out their that shows constants for all available rounds? I cant find anything out there on the net. Maybe I’m not inputting the right info.

    • @PrecisionRifleNetwork
      @PrecisionRifleNetwork  Před 2 lety +1

      Actually there’s a way better method for figuring wind now. This video is a few years old. New way dopes gravity which is a constant no matter what caliber you choose. Bullet constants were bullet specific…no longer the best way. Here’s a link to an article - www.snipershide.com/precision-rifle/the-modern-wind-rose/

  • @TheMotorcycleBoss
    @TheMotorcycleBoss Před 3 lety +1

    How do you figure out your wind constant for a 6.5 grendel?

  • @Kr1stof1987
    @Kr1stof1987 Před rokem

    Wots constant for 308?

  • @tepesavvas4283
    @tepesavvas4283 Před 2 lety

    thanks boys

  • @jianliu9420
    @jianliu9420 Před rokem

    That constant does not work for me operating in meter and kilometer per hour. I had to increase all the way up to 19 for a constant.

  • @alexuswilliams5426
    @alexuswilliams5426 Před měsícem

    how did you come up with .3 ? curious, the formula made sense to me up to that point

  • @dylonswiatek
    @dylonswiatek Před 3 lety +1

    send it

  • @zfzhao2562
    @zfzhao2562 Před 4 lety +1

    Hello Sir, how to find range constant for non 6.5 reedmoor, for example 308?s'il vous plait.

    • @PrecisionRifleNetwork
      @PrecisionRifleNetwork  Před 4 lety

      Your constant for a .308 is 12 or 13. Again, this is just a rough estimate, but it should get you pretty close.

    • @zfzhao2562
      @zfzhao2562 Před 4 lety +1

      @@PrecisionRifleNetwork thank you sir.

    • @zfzhao2562
      @zfzhao2562 Před 4 lety

      Sir, Thank you very much for your answer, and I have another question : that is if I find some informations of a bullet in their official site , for instance the BC of 6.5 creedmoor of Hornady or BC of 300 WM of RWS, it's possible calculate the wind drift by
      this BC value, if not which information is useful for calculate the wind drift?

    • @PrecisionRifleNetwork
      @PrecisionRifleNetwork  Před 4 lety

      @@zfzhao2562 yes, it's possible to estimate a wind hold based on a bullet BC. You should go to Sniper's Hide forum and search for "weaponized math". The posts there about this topic will be most helpful for you.

    • @zfzhao2562
      @zfzhao2562 Před 4 lety +1

      @@PrecisionRifleNetwork I am very grateful for your help, Sir.

  • @whiterabit09
    @whiterabit09 Před rokem

    The wind chart is valuable, but instead of mathing the rest out, just use a ballistic calculator.

  • @KetemaHarris
    @KetemaHarris Před 5 lety

    Same as other comment. Where does one find the constants?

  • @markchester7584
    @markchester7584 Před 9 měsíci

    Nice - but you’ve left us with questions. Wind was quartering towards you. Quartering away; still by .75 or now by .25?

    • @PrecisionRifleNetwork
      @PrecisionRifleNetwork  Před 9 měsíci

      I explained that and showed it. about the 2:50 mark.

    • @markchester7584
      @markchester7584 Před 9 měsíci

      @@PrecisionRifleNetwork what you explained with the addition of arrows was that you multiply by .75 for a wind that appears to quartering towards you. Do I still use .75 if the wind is quartering away from you?

  • @chrisdewet4384
    @chrisdewet4384 Před 18 dny

    How did you get to your gun constant of 14??

    • @PrecisionRifleNetwork
      @PrecisionRifleNetwork  Před 17 dny

      It’s a formula based on distance and wind speed, but it changes based on caliber too.
      Here’s a video about it.
      czcams.com/video/p026Y0WUy6Q/video.htmlsi=wVFm-4Di0J8QVPfl

  • @FishOn1
    @FishOn1 Před 2 lety

    Good info, except that it is next to worthless without explaining where the constant comes from or how to calculate it.

  • @troynichols9788
    @troynichols9788 Před 5 lety

    What / How did you determine your "wind constant" to be 14? And 14 what? Whats the metric there? Great vid by the way. Wish I had your range!

    • @troynichols9788
      @troynichols9788 Před 5 lety +1

      My bad. I just read the other comments about wind constant. Sorry.

    • @troynichols9788
      @troynichols9788 Před 5 lety +2

      For those interested in the wind constant read from "An Old Marine Corps Method" on this link: www.millettsights.com/resources/shooting-tips/mathematics-for-precision-shooters/

    • @troynichols9788
      @troynichols9788 Před 5 lety +2

      At 600 Yards, Divide by 14
      At 700 and 800 Yards, Divide by 13
      At 900 Yards, Divide by 12
      At 1000 Yards, Divide by 11

  • @ww3intel490
    @ww3intel490 Před 4 lety

    This is why the us uses drone strikes ohhhhhh

  • @quotidien_
    @quotidien_ Před rokem

    Looks like you lost your wind before you fired.

  • @ynotjf
    @ynotjf Před 4 lety

    So 6.5 x 2 + 1 = 14? 6.5 x bullet weight / distance? WTF is 14?

    • @PrecisionRifleNetwork
      @PrecisionRifleNetwork  Před 4 lety

      ynotjf The wind constant for most 6.5’s
      It’s not perfect, but it’s close. It’s just “try dope” after all.

  • @johnfloyd7132
    @johnfloyd7132 Před 5 lety

    Confusing!

    • @PrecisionRifleNetwork
      @PrecisionRifleNetwork  Před 5 lety

      John Floyd how can I help John?

    • @johnfloyd7132
      @johnfloyd7132 Před 5 lety

      Precision Rifle Network
      Too many factors for me to process.
      I guess I'll buy a Kestrel.
      Thanks

    • @slappy1031
      @slappy1031 Před 10 měsíci

      @@johnfloyd7132 and lots of batts

  • @oldmanpatriot1490
    @oldmanpatriot1490 Před 3 lety +1

    All of this is really good information.. But,, (there is always a
    but),,,,,,, What I am looking for is the step by step way to calculate
    all the variables to dope the scope accurately without a ballistics
    calculator.. I want to know how to do it the old fashioned way because
    lets face it,,, anyone who has half a brain and has used technology when
    the rubber meats the road has always had that technology fail on
    them... Can anyone point me to a spot where the actual step by step
    mathematics are taught? And I am not talking about the idiotic 1 moa is 1
    inch at 100 yards crap.. Im talking about taking all your known data,
    doing the math on paper and adjusting your scope appropriately.. I have
    watched a million videos and for some odd reason no one ever explains
    the math.. Whether they dont know it and use a machine or dont want that
    info out there I dont know,, This is the closest I have ever seen anyone come. But I believe that if you want to be the
    best shooter out there, you need all the info.. Any help would be
    greatly appreciated..

    • @PrecisionRifleNetwork
      @PrecisionRifleNetwork  Před 3 lety

      Are you familiar with the Sniper’s Hide forum?

    • @oldmanpatriot1490
      @oldmanpatriot1490 Před 3 lety

      @@PrecisionRifleNetwork No I am not. do I just type that into a search engine? I am also interested in knowing what FM's cover these things.

    • @PrecisionRifleNetwork
      @PrecisionRifleNetwork  Před 3 lety

      @@oldmanpatriot1490 definitely get on sniper’s hide and search that forum. It’s probably the most comprehensive source of info on precision shooting anywhere.

    • @ssgslaughter4639
      @ssgslaughter4639 Před 3 lety

      Tibersaurous Rex on CZcams has the hands down best long range videos on the internet. He’s got a LONG ass series. Each video is like a subsequent class that. It starts a little basic with things like cartridge selection but also goes very in depth with ballistics and calcs. Bring some popcorn and pad and paper and enjoy the process.

    • @oldmanpatriot1490
      @oldmanpatriot1490 Před 3 lety

      @@ssgslaughter4639 Thanks, But even T-Rex doesnt go in depth into the calculations that brings it all home without a ballistics calculator. If you watch his videos closely,, you will see a kestrel in his videos... To the untrained eye,, T-Rex comes off as the know all be all.. Although he is very good at long range shooting and knows his crap,,,, he still needs a ballistics calculator like the rest of us..
      Since this comment,, I have purchased the Kestrel 5700 sportsman. the kestrel is powered by a AA battery, so I bought the goal zero nomad 7 in case I need to recharge.
      And for a back up,, In case all else fails,, Another good man turned me onto a analog calculator called the Accuracy 1st whiz wheel.. Really awesome company.. You call them and give them detailed information about your rifle, cartridge and scope over bore and they custom make a whiz wheel for each weapon system you have.
      So if you are looking for light weight state of the art system that affords you to stay out on mission for extended periods of time,, and a analog calculator to back up electronics,,, this is what I have done.. Check of them out...
      I know this isnt cheap and isnt for everyone but with all of them combined, I am well equipped for any mission that may come my way given the state of affairs we find ourselves in..

  • @pizzahunter808
    @pizzahunter808 Před 5 měsíci

    Way too complicated