506 Tractor Snow Chains. Do You REALLY Need Them? Aquiline Talon Tire Chains.
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- I answer your questions today! Many Subscribers ask me these same questions each winter regarding tractor tire chains so I thought I would take a few minutes to answer them. Cheers!
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Great perspective, Gordon!
I would love to see you try the newer style R14 hybrid tires in that experiment to see the difference between them and the R4's in snow. Maybe you know someone that has them.
I've got the r14. They do better than the r4.. Although I have asphalt driveway. Our slopes are about the same. Mine might even be steeper in a Longer distance.
I slid down it with my snowblower and salt spreader. So 1000 extra lbs. Not fun. Almost went sideways and into the highway down below. Bought some of the same branded chains but they are made for asphalt. ( Have yet to try them yet... No snow at the moment.)
Those tires are gonna be awesome when used as more of a utility snow tire, like you'd get on a plow truck or someone's ski country Subaru/winter battle tank. Great tires if you're doing tons of asphalt plowing
Nice video GP!
I'm in. Thanks. - N Idaho -
Slick, cheers!
I’m pretty lucky with where I’m clearing snow with my BX tractor. It’s nice and flat. Even with that the weather seems to be changing so I’m going to have to go to chains anyway.
As always so very kind and informative. Have a great holiday season.
Well that does it. I’m buying some land, a tractor and some chains.
I enjoyed the video!
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I have had chains on all 4 wheels of my Kubota tractor since 2004 and they are a necessary on hills. I live in the Selkirk Mountains of British Columbia and have a very steep 600 foot driveway with a switch back there is no way in icy conditions you will make it up our driveway with just chains on the rear, with 4x4 and chains on the front and back and can plow our driveway up and down in safety, its not nice to trade ends when you lower your front blade . Mountain plowing is so much different than snow plowing in the flat lands of Ontario, or most of eastern North America.
If you live in a snowy climate, BUY CHAINS No brainer!
Hey Gord nice gloves
LOL!!😄
Good video…chains are a must in areas you get a real winter
Totally agree with you GP....
Hey GP...for your type of driveway those chains are best but anyone who has an Asphalt driveway stay away from any kind of aggressive chains, you will destroy your driveway. Just my thoughts!!
Great point Mitch!
Great video showing how effective adding some chains can be. Watched Sawing with Sandy 4 days ago demonstrating how much chains help. You both got it right ✅!
Great information and demonstration Gord. The voice of experience first hand. You’re doing an excellent job with your videos and providing valuable insight to staying safe. Thanks for sharing with us , keep up the great videos and work around there. Fred..🙏🏻🙏🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻✋🏻✋🏻
Thanks very much Fred! Another week gone by and the weekend is just about here. Boy, time starts to really fly lately. Enjoy yours!
Well done Gord. There is no substitute for good traction no matter what you are driving. As always, safety first
We use V Bar Skidloader chains on the front wheels because most of the weight is on the front.
Skidloader gets V Bar chains all the way around.
I don’t need chains for my tractor where I live, but, years ago when I used to drive in the mountains in winter (California, Utah), I used a pair of spare tires with heavy chains with traction bars welded to the cross links. That rear wheel drive car would go places that I’d only attempt with all wheel drive today. Very good advice from you.
@GP Outdoors Those were the good old days Gord. Listening to Paul Simon's Slip Slidin' Away in your headphones while praying you weren't going to slide back down the hill into a tree. Yes, it is an investment, but one that pays dividends in safety and efficiency.
Wishing you and the rest of the family a very Merry Christmas, from my family to yours.
Good evening Sonnic! LOL! Yup, times seemed simpler back them . :)) Merry Christmas to you and yours too, my friend!
Just got a l2501 with a backhoe. Hoping the weight on the back will help till I get chains. I am making some edge tamers now
Get #14 stainless HEX head screws, about 5/8's length and screw them into the lugs, about 100 per tire and you're laughin for under 100$.
Same with winter tires for cars if you live in a cold climate…astonishing how some people still try arguing if it’s better so stop quicker when every inch counts to prevent a collision.
Couldn't get much more convincing than that demo Gord!
I have been using front tire chains for years and that is all I Use on steep hills and logging trails.
Have a set of box studded for my RX6620 and am impressed. 300.00 .
A must in winter on ice . Thanks great info. Keep it up.
Thanks for the nice demo of the necessity for chains on snow and ice (probably mud as well). The chains also have a tendency to slow one down in in-climate weather. Too many accidents are caused by speed and lack of traction. Stay warm and safe there in Canada this winter. Hope Santa visits your place at the end of the month. Cheers!
In my mind, you have to have some sort of chain. Ice chains sure give good traction. To off set the harsh ride you can lower the tire pressure a bit. And from what I know the chains should be a little loose for best traction. I have a number of old garden tractors, which are two wheel drive. Snow throwers on the front. So I need the chains. And for added traction on any tractor, you need extra rear weight. Wheel weights, loaded tires, or weight off the back of the tractor. This helps greatly with traction. Great video GP.
I could see some of the grade, but you walking up the hill at :30 was wow. That is steep.
I have turf tires on my BX. I’ve never had an issue in the snow without chains. I live in the UP and deal with a lot of snow. Thanks for the video
Hi GP,
Great Video! This really demonstrates how well tire chains work, as well as how steep your hills are.
Good morning.I also think a big misconception to new tractor owners is the "4 wheel drive"factor.Many people think there all terrain capable,not so.Any remotely hilly terrain,or where real winters still exist,chains are the way to go.I'd be in big trouble without them.Even cheap chains are better than no chains.
Always a good idea! May save you several thousands on any repair!
Thank you for puttig them on. I'll sleep better knowing you won't be walking back to the cabin. Because you should've installed them.
LOL! Cheers Jim!😃
Very effective demo, GP. Thanks!
Merry Christmas Larry! Hope you and your family have a wonderful Christmas. Cheers!
Gord, you know I love the white stuff, but I'm so happy to be down south where chains are only for towing!
GP when I bought my 3033r I never gave a thought about chains until I watch your video and Sawing with Sandy’s video. Now I’m really thinking about them, although I store the tractor in a garage I will need to lay down sheets of plywood to protect the slab. Thanks for the video.
How's she goin'? You are so right GP, the studded chains make so much difference. It'll change your experience on the tractor in winter for the better. They are expensive, but they will last forever and make operation so much safer. Thanks for sharing your experience and this was a good demo of why you should use them!!! Take care and Merry Christmas!!!
We shall start the "Studded Chain Club"! Lol!
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Merry Christmas Grampie!
I have almost the same exact chains that I bought with my lx2610 and absolutely love them I fell like I can go anywhere
Main reason I bought a Kubota was for the 4-wheel drive so I never had to deal with tire chains again 4 years now just loving it plenty of traction
A picture is worth a thousand words so a CZcams video video is probably worth a million. LOl
Do you need them? No. But....
Will they make your tractor safer? Yes.
Will they help avoid you getting stuck? Yes.
Will they get you out of a stuck situation more times than not? Yes.
So need them No. Will you be better off with them? Absolutely.
Two thumbs up!
Those are great chains! So far here in northwest Pennsylvania - no snow other than some flurries and an inch here or there (that quickly melts off). Maybe that means we'll get LOTS of snow after Christmas.
It would be so nice just to at least get a blanket for Christmas morning - Happy Holidays Chad!
I remember your reluctance to get chains. I was one of the group that commented that you needed chains. Though they are rather pricey these days, chains are, and will remain, the most effective option in terms performance versus price. Especially for small to mid size tractors.
Good day William. Yes in deed and I can't thank you and the others enough. Sometimes my stubborn nature gets the best of me but eventually , with a little prodding, I come around. 😃 Merry Christmas to you and your family!
Nice demo! Glad you can around to chains! That big hill is something else. I am currently waiting to the first major snowfall to see if my R1s are enough on my much less hilly driveway or of I need to purchase chains.
Hello GP. I have not used chains because of plowing the runway. When I had R4 tires, I found I slipped a lot with my tractor. when I purchased the KUBOTA tractor, I had turf tires put on the tractor and have not skipped t all. The turf tires seem to do better on the snow and ice. If I had a driveway like yours, I probably would put chains on my tractor. But, my driveway is flat. Good video and demonstration. I have had the unpleasant experience of sliding backwards the a Case skid steer. Not a lot of fun.
Morning JH! Thanks for the info - I had heard the same from others - the turf or R14 tires have much better traction in winter. Yup, the slide sideways was a little too much for this guy too. :))
Hands down there is a great advantage to chains of any type, but especially the boxed chains with the ice cleats as you have found out. I don't have the super cool ones like these in the video, but I would love to adorn my favorite vintage machine with a set. A very good illustration of the benefits to chains GP.
Morning T! Yes sir - I certainly owe you and many others a lot of thanks for urging me to see the light after that first winter. Thanks! Can't wait to sport my new T when it gets here!!😀
Good example GP. When is the snowblower going on? Don't be like me with most things, and wait until you have a foot of snow on the ground! 🤣🎅
Too late DA! LOL! I don't know why but I am pushing the envelope a bit this year. I am thinking I'll give in this coming week and get it done. Have a wonderful holiday!
Hey Gord some of the problem are those tires. They are not typically very good on snow. The tire chains are a great way to impove traction for sure.
Chains are great for sure but they are not ideal if you need to maintain asphalt or concrete surfaces. I like the R14 style tire as an alternative in those instances (R4's are notoriously bad in the snow). However, if you only have gravel or dirt surfaces to maintain, nothing beats some studded chains, especially if you have a very hilly driveway like GP does.
I have R1 tires on a Kubota L2501 with chains that are similar to GP's, they're studded diamond pattern. The tractor gets parked on a concrete floor and I use it to maintain a 700 foot driveway in the winter. I have no issues with damage to the asphalt or concrete.
i put chains on all 4 tires. even in 4x4 if you only have 3 tires on the ground you will need to push yourself out with bucket.
The chains on tractor was mandatory on farm.
Good evening Gordon Potter ( GP )😉👍 I'm very please to meet you mon ami 🤭 Great exemple video GP 👌👍😉 My Trygg tire chaines are OUTSTANDING 👌💪😉 Have a blessed week Sir Cheers😉👍🍻
You too Dave! Enjoy your weekend!
@@GPOutdoors 😇🙏👍🍻
It would. Be interesting to see this same test with the R14 tread pattern.
I have the new R14 tires. I will try them without chains first this winter. Chain is my last option as I need to drive a small section on a provincial road. Spacers are also needed with chains I believe, isn't?
thanks for video! you are truly a gifted content creator!
I have the r24 and need no chains,,, but I live in Saskatchewan to ,, real flat here
Yes indeed - the spacers are needed for this tractor and my B2601 too. Good luck with the R14s - I hear they provide better traction. Cheers!
If your rear wheels are set to only 1 position, no width adjustments then spacers are most likely needed regardless of tractor make. If your wheels are of a 2 piece design, between the adjustments in width and possibly switching sides spacers may not be required.
Widest stance would be 1) dish out on center part of wheel and 2) rim to the mounts furtherest from the tractor body.
There are reference online for this position. It may be you do not want this stance except when running chains.
I agree GP, there is no looking back once you use chains for a winter season. Do I enjoy putting them on? Absolutely not. From your video GP, looks like the chains could use some additional tightening. I find it takes a couple of days to fully "dial in" the chains. Great video!
I am not the only one that hates putting tire chains on! Lol! But they are worth it!
You bet R. I wanted to drive them a couple of times first but great advice - I'll find some time this week to adjust them. Cheers and thanks!
Definitely better with chains. Thats a steep slope coming down your road. I noticed you didn't have any problems coming to a complete stop. As anybody who has ever been on a sliding tractor can tell you, very scary.
Excellent demonstration, GP! Also good job showing how steep that hill is. In previous videos I couldn't tell how steep it is. Happy Holidays, my friend! Cheers!
Merry Christmas Michael!
I move snow in town so chains aren't an option... But turf tires are vastly superior to the R4's in snow
Good advice Gord, I wouldn't go far (literally) without them. Hope all is well, Merry Christmas 🎄
Merry Christmas MC!
Thanks for a great video. I just received my LX3301 from Larkin Equipment. I opted for the R14 tires as I am blowing snow on level ground. As soon as I can get wheel spacers and Aqualine chains I will but I think it will be next spring. I always used chains on all 4 wheels on my Jeep when plowing snow. Now looking forward to blowing it away.
Congratulations Andrew! That's great. If you don't mind, or have the time later, maybe let me know from time to time how those R14s are working out for you working in snow. I have heard they are much better for traction but I have never used them. All the best!
Gord, I will keep you posted regarding the R14 tires.
Man! You really showed how important chains can be in this video. To me, the most scariest thing is not being able to make it up a hill. It would be sliding down the other side with no control. lol Merry Christmas GP! See ya!
Hey Merry Christmas LA! SO great to hear from you . All the best to you and your family my friend!
GP, who won the Eastonmade Wood Splitter, can you tell me?
Yes Indeed - a sub named Bill Rogers. I updated the description under that video. Super happy as you can imagine. Cheers Stanley!
@@GPOutdoors Thank You Very Much for tell us who won. Congrats to Bill and all that applied. 😁
GM merry christmas..love the video......
Merry Christmas Frankie!
No studded chains for asphalt driveways.
That's a great point - thanks Todd!
Names Miller Bingham I live in the USA middle Tennessee 30mins from Nashville and we get some snow that can get dangerous and I’ve never had any trouble tho even with out chains ⛓ that’s because I always have a box blade did have a grader blade but broke in half tho gord
We got a 1957 ford 800 series gas tractor and we do great with a box blade
Well, it's a pleasure to meet you Miller. I've only been to Nashville once but to this day, I have to say, it was pretty much one of the best times I ever had. Super kind folks and awesome music! Happy Holidays and thanks for stopping by.
Yes sir with a good heart warming southern accent try to come on back now ya hear!!!
Great video GP. Chains are great especially on R4 tires and have a set for all 4 on my 790. Just a reminder on rear brake quote for someone not knowing, if you leave your tractor in 4wd you will have braking on all 4 tires. Kinda safety thing if you need it. My new Kioti actually engages the 4 wheel drive when you step on the brake which is nice when towing something heavy and like a vehicle gives you 4 wheel braking. Thanks GP have a great weekend.
Good morning and thanks very much Bob. I did not know that - I think I need to read over the manual again. It's been a while. Thanks very much!
@@GPOutdoors yep because in 4 wheel drive you driveline is locked together threw the front driveshaft giving your front tires coupled to the rear thus like having 4 wheel braking. 👍Take care GP and say Hi to Guy and Husky Bob for me
Those chains really work! Very good advice and perfect example of how they help! Thank you for showing! Have a great weekend. Do you put chains on the front ever?
Morning Ross. No, I have never tried them on the front, I thought about studs last year but decided against it. Cheers!
Always fun to go sideways down the hill?? Lol
LOL! not at the time...but makes for good stories in Guy's workshop Dave! :))
Hi Gord. Love your videos. Do you need wheel spacers in the back for clearance for the chains. I live in Cochrane Ontario and winters are long so I'm thinking tire chains are a smart investment.
Thanks
Morning KC! I sure did - I installed them myself ( video is on the channel page) and it was a learning experience to say the least. LOL! Good luck and Happy Holidays!
Hi Gordon, great information thanks my question is did you have to install wheel spacers for your chains on your 2610?
Thanks Darryl. I did for sure. I got Kubota OEM spacers and I had the dealer install them when I bought the tractor. Cheers!
Want to get chains not sure witch ones mostly even ground mine is gravel neighbors are cement .dont want to harm there driveways. Suggestions? Thanks
Great advice. I’m heading home tomorrow and can wait to try out our new LX 2610. I’ve learned a lot from your videos so thanks a lot!
Awesome! You must be super excited Tim! Have a wonderful day out there and enjoy the new tractor!😀
For curiosity’s sake I’d love to see how R14’s fare under the same conditions.
Check out the first comment and the replies to it that I pinned at the start of the comments. Cheers!
Do you recommend to have also front tire chains if you have some on back wheels?
Good day Robert. I know some folks have said they also have front chains but I have only ever had rears. Also on my B2601, I could not put front chains as they would rub on the side of the blower frame if I turned the wheels sharp. Good luck and all the best!
Won’t the studs damage your asphalt driveway when using it to clear snow? I was thinking of the normal chains without the studs because most of my winter clearing is my driveway
Good morning. Yes - they warned me not to use them on concrete or asphalt driveways. My driveway is all sand and gravel. Cheers!
Great video GP. I see you got a little snow but not much. We keep getting our snow washed away from the rain/fog that has been coming after it snows. Do you still use your spreader for spreading salt sand? Did you and Guy ever get the bridging figured out? Have a great week and Merry Christmas to you and your family. Cheers
Morning PJ! Yes, ours washed out after the storm went through this past week too. Yes, the fix Guy made with the little chains works quite well overall. I did a video or two on them back 2 winters ago, if you are interested, they are listed there on my channel page under the videos list. All the best PJ!
Gord, does Guy have chains for his L series tractor? Be safe and nice video...
Good evening Mike. He does not actually - he has talked about it on and off but his driveway is pretty much flat and not very long. He has, of course, had a few tough conditions over the years but still to this day - no chains.
Hi GP I have a B2410 with chains for winter. Like you I tried it without did not fair well plowing snow. What’s your thoughts on putting them on the front also?
Good evening Jim. I have thought about it several times but not sure I have enough clearance on the fronts ( when turning sharp). I also thought about putting studs on them but after a while decided not to. So far I am feeling pretty comfortable just having the rears. Thanks!
Anyone know if the studed chains will mess up concrete if just parking on it with them? Have my tractor in a garage but everything out side is gravel. Thanks
I park my tractor in the garage with a concrete floor. During the winter I have trygg studded chains and I haven't seen any major damage or issue to the concrete. I have no doubt there might be a mark here and there. But nothing that I think is a major issue. The tractor is a B2650 so it isn't a big - heavy tractor.
" A picture is worth a thousand words",.. here's proof!
Good video GP. I was wondering if your tires are weighted (can't remember) and if it would have made a difference if you would have had your box blade or some other implement in back to help weigh the tires down for traction? I've slipped and slid a little with my 3301L series when getting the snow off the dirt road myself here at the house. I just keep going back and forth as far as whether it is worth the money for the chains to clear the road/driveway once to two times a year? Merry Christmas and Happy Hollidays my friend! 🙂
Morning Cliff! That is a great question and I wanted to go back and do both segments again with my box blade on. It does sometimes as I almost always have something on the back for ballast but when I get to that part of the hill, it often does not. The day I had to call Guy to pull me up the hill with his L series, I had the box blade on the back and blower on the front. He still likes to rib me about that - LOL! Merry Christmas!
The answer is no you really don't need tire chains.. on a four wheel drive tractor... At least I don't
Where did you get those ? I also in ontario ,not from you.
Morning C2! I bought them from tirechainsrequired.com - gentleman's name there is Bill. Cheers!
Thanks G P
Hey Gord. We looked at chains for our L series. I didn't see enough clearance to the factory cab?
I had to install wheel spacers. On both the B2601 and this one.
@@GPOutdoors Ok that makes sense. We run chains on the front tires and get by ok. May have to look into the spacers for the rear. Thanks for the info
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Hi Gord - Just a quick thank you note.
I have spent some time over the fall setting up for winter. I started with wheel spacers after watching you do yours in an older video and was able to pull that job off. I never would have attempted that had not been for seeing your video.
Then after researching myself -and deciding like you - (after a long search due to shortages of the Aquiline tire chain) I was able to also finally obtain the Aquiline chains.I put this on two days ago on my 35 HP JD. I was glad to watch your video on how to connect them which made the job easier.
They seem great and I know how they will perform thanks to your informative work. Thanks Again, Jim
Good morning and thanks kindly Jim. I am very happy they helped out. Those wheel spacers were a tough one for me! LOL! You will be really happy having the chains - a little rougher ride but worth it for sure. Happy Holidays Jim!