Joe Proposes to Tahiry & Nya Pops Off | Season 4 Recap Part 1 | Love & Hip Hop: New York

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  • The season that started all the drama between Tara, Peter and Amina. Plus, Cyn and Erica Mena, Tahiry and Joe, and Erica Jean and Saigon.
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    TIMECODES
    0:00 - Intro
    00:43 Tahiry discovers Joe has had another woman in his bed
    3:39 Rah Ali and Tahiry argue over booty pics
    6:41 Joe proposes to Tahiry
    10:59 Joe tells Tahiry she abandoned him
    13:55 Rah Ali threatens Joe
    15:35 Erica Jean and Saigon fight in the parking lot
    18:30 Saigon asks Erica Jean to move in
    21:05 Saigon curses out Erica Jean
    25:40 Nya tells Rich Dollaz that he’s corny
    28:20 Nya and Erica Mena argue in the strip club
    30:19 Nya unintentionally pops off on Tahiry
    32:49 Nya and Erica Mena almost fight at the reunion
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  • @loveandhiphop
    @loveandhiphop  Před 4 lety +714

    TIMECODES
    00:43 Tahiry discovers Joe has had another woman in his bed
    3:39 Rah Ali and Tahiry argue over booty pics
    6:41 Joe proposes to Tahiry
    10:59 Joe tells Tahiry she abandoned him
    13:55 Rah Ali threatens Joe
    15:35 Erica Jean and Saigon fight in the parking lot
    18:30 Saigon asks Erica Jean to move in
    21:05 Saigon curses out Erica Jean
    25:40 Nya tells Rich Dollaz that he’s corny
    28:20 Nya and Erica Mena argue in the strip club
    30:19 Nya unintentionally pops off on Tahiry
    32:49 Nya and Erica Mena almost fight at the reunion

    • @lateefajohnson61
      @lateefajohnson61 Před 4 lety +10

      Thanks

    • @MEETMagazine
      @MEETMagazine Před 4 lety +26

      Tahiry Jose, Erica Mena, Erica Jean alL in the same video?
      All of this eye candy? Wheres my popcorn?

    • @ashasaid8597
      @ashasaid8597 Před 4 lety +47

      Oh God, deliver me from men like Joe and saigon

    • @portiamatthews9654
      @portiamatthews9654 Před 4 lety +7

      @@MEETMagazine , I am a huge fan and subscriber to your channel 😊.

    • @MEETMagazine
      @MEETMagazine Před 4 lety +4

      @@portiamatthews9654 thank you 😀😁😊☺

  • @joseribamarjr5164
    @joseribamarjr5164 Před 4 lety +3845

    I can't stand the way joe changes his voice to talk to women. That low and slow speech like he's the godfather or something.

  • @iamlatasha
    @iamlatasha Před 4 lety +3281

    I was proud of her rejecting his proposal he was so manipulative.

  • @Larzaparz
    @Larzaparz Před 4 lety +1576

    I love how Tahiry dresses. She dresses according to her body type. Doesn't try to squeeze into a size that clearly doesn't fit. I really like her.

    • @tetethatsme28
      @tetethatsme28 Před 3 lety +87

      I agree, I think she dresses nice for her body type. She's a bird but that's for other reasons lol *inserts marriage bootcamp*

    • @joannemccloud4501
      @joannemccloud4501 Před 2 lety +20

      Yes she has a very edgy style

    • @nogalistanineties9237
      @nogalistanineties9237 Před 2 lety +21

      @@joannemccloud4501 the woman is a hypnotic Beauty 😍

    • @444.liyahh3
      @444.liyahh3 Před 2 lety +22

      she dress like a lady

    • @jasmineparker253
      @jasmineparker253 Před 2 lety +22

      She looks GOOD too, sexy yet still very classy, more women should take notes

  • @sophiab2098
    @sophiab2098 Před 4 lety +1964

    She’s so strong for saying no, people shouldn’t agree to proposals just because they feel pressured into it by the situation.

  • @JayLeiRay
    @JayLeiRay Před 4 lety +5487

    Tahiry was one of those smart girls who wouldn’t tie herself down to a toxic guy just for money

    • @nadiascott573
      @nadiascott573 Před 4 lety +202

      Or just to say she’s married! I love my girl ♉️

    • @amcglockton2
      @amcglockton2 Před 4 lety +181

      I mean she still entertained his energy for how long, so how smart is she really?

    • @hreese1130
      @hreese1130 Před 4 lety +34

      @@nadiascott573 yes yes that's a Taurus woman ♉

    • @destianadelore1850
      @destianadelore1850 Před 4 lety +117

      She didn't marry him but was still fooling with him 🥴 . How smart is that exactly? Lmao .

    • @JayLeiRay
      @JayLeiRay Před 4 lety +23

      destiana delore no strings attached 😉

  • @Hustlasownineverythang
    @Hustlasownineverythang Před 4 lety +4197

    Joe is a massive manipulator

  • @laurenfckery
    @laurenfckery Před 4 lety +1449

    He had a-whole-nother woman in his bed and managed to turn it around on her and how leaving for her job is gonna ruin the relationship. Bruh.

    • @adwahum7903
      @adwahum7903 Před 3 lety +99

      rightttttt and he the nerve to say that she was going crazy

    • @karabartley
      @karabartley Před 3 lety +25

      You caught that too???? He thought she was a total sucker

    • @TheSusan11233
      @TheSusan11233 Před 2 lety +37

      Typical narcissist -spelling-

    • @adriennewilliams5408
      @adriennewilliams5408 Před 2 lety +29

      Classic narcissist 🤦🏾‍♀️ Joe is the most, to say the least. He needs an Oscar for his acting skills. He can switch it up quite well.

    • @candicewatson5508
      @candicewatson5508 Před 2 lety +14

      Gaslighter extraordinnaire

  • @ashunnaimann5765
    @ashunnaimann5765 Před 4 lety +505

    When he mocked that baby.... that rubbed me the wrong way......

    • @kaykay3458
      @kaykay3458 Před 2 lety +36

      When he was asking her to move in and smiled at the baby THAT rubbed me the wrong way. HELL, NO!!! He'd get no visitation and can keep his child support. That man is deranged and evil

  • @MBooney
    @MBooney Před 4 lety +2442

    Chewing gum during his so called proposal though is so tacky. Glad she said no.

    • @AceWifeyMa
      @AceWifeyMa Před 4 lety +98

      Mani Borja it irked me so bad with every chew like swallow that damn gum boy

    • @RyahVbby
      @RyahVbby Před 4 lety +24

      Sammmmme ass thing i said.

    • @frankblackiii
      @frankblackiii Před 4 lety +15

      A true Dirt Bag ,, he probably wouldn’t play himself in a movie

    • @joannafreedom7914
      @joannafreedom7914 Před 4 lety +47

      That was all for him. He's a narcissist. The video was him the eyes are on him. He made it all about him.

    • @msblessie4568
      @msblessie4568 Před 4 lety +10

      😂😂😂😂😂you wrong about the "glad she said no" part😂😂😂

  • @mylifeasnisha94
    @mylifeasnisha94 Před 4 lety +2156

    Tahiry tried to warn Joe that she was gonna say no! She said “please don’t do it!” 😂😂

    • @stroNg2thaBoNe2thaMax
      @stroNg2thaBoNe2thaMax Před 4 lety +129

      Lmao 😂 he wanted to look stupid.

    • @Nayahpooh012
      @Nayahpooh012 Před 3 lety +84

      He thought he could manipulate her

    • @annabelwanjiku118
      @annabelwanjiku118 Před 2 lety +42

      Saying yes to him would have meant accepting that she was okay will all his narsicism, i really applaude her for that ,i am not sure i could have hacked that tbh

    • @lovelyrich54
      @lovelyrich54 Před rokem +4

      Lol shit was hilarious.. like dude are you deaf.🙄😂😂😂😂

    • @reallniga3
      @reallniga3 Před rokem +5

      literally, he thought that whole video was going to make her feel bad and say yes😂😂

  • @selinabrooks3629
    @selinabrooks3629 Před 4 lety +629

    Saigon sounds like a name for a demon.

  • @inababes2318
    @inababes2318 Před 4 lety +769

    The way Joe was telling Tahiry that she was losing her mind as she found the pillow case with foundation?!? Make it make sense TF

    • @Freverprincess
      @Freverprincess Před 3 lety +44

      Lol he couldn’t make it make sense so he had to come up with some shit

    • @Nayahpooh012
      @Nayahpooh012 Před 3 lety +75

      He’s a narcissist and he was gaslighting her

    • @nellaroxanne826
      @nellaroxanne826 Před 3 lety +21

      @@Nayahpooh012 it's weird how many ppl don't know these ppl exist and what they do.

    • @sadewatkins53
      @sadewatkins53 Před 2 lety +17

      One word , Gaslighting

    • @ashcruz904
      @ashcruz904 Před rokem +5

      That was disturbing.

  • @rimaa2410
    @rimaa2410 Před 4 lety +2670

    Rah Ali is one of them friends that take personal shots at you but say it’s just them “keeping it real”.

    • @h.e.r325
      @h.e.r325 Před 3 lety +89

      Exactly

    • @nanararapiti
      @nanararapiti Před 3 lety +217

      Girlaaaaa she been waiting to say that salty bs.

    • @jenniferterry4665
      @jenniferterry4665 Před 3 lety +39

      She didn't lie to her...there's so many so called "friends" who sit back and allow their homegirls to continue to f*** up their reputation while they get silent gratification. Facts are TH keeps attracting 🗑 men bc of how she puts herself out there at 30 plus which is not much different than what she was putting out in her 20's...no sane woman would ever be "jealous" of one seen by most men as an object.

    • @Nunofyabizzzzz
      @Nunofyabizzzzz Před 3 lety +55

      My mom and sister are like that 😒😔

    • @Blazedblitzy
      @Blazedblitzy Před 3 lety +122

      Yea then be like “you know how I am you know how I talk” type shit nah you too comfortable w getting slick.

  • @sharonware7805
    @sharonware7805 Před 4 lety +1120

    Saigon is dangerous, irrational, ill-tempered, unstable. Erica please leave him alone, this is not a safe relationship for you.

    • @subirawalker415
      @subirawalker415 Před 4 lety +177

      Fr, their son could be on the autism spectrum and he mocks him on tv. Like who raised you?

    • @jazzypooh5362
      @jazzypooh5362 Před 4 lety +5

      Subira Walker bro what 😂 he’s sick

    • @Noxolo_Shangase
      @Noxolo_Shangase Před 4 lety +100

      Saigon is a terrible person. Erica was way to patient with him.

    • @arp5546
      @arp5546 Před 4 lety +78

      Subira Walker or his son might just be a late speaker just like einstein. He is disgusting and her taping with him show her low self esteem. That man needs supervised visits. He has abusive qualities.

    • @sarahonly4560
      @sarahonly4560 Před 4 lety +4

      Sharon Ware She did .

  • @jalesaprince88
    @jalesaprince88 Před 2 lety +691

    Rah was so wrong. You have to beware of friends who say certain things when they are mad. She was entitled to be mad but she went off talking about everything that she truly feels.

    • @_eatyourveggies
      @_eatyourveggies Před 2 lety +47

      True. A lot of people have snakes in their bed.

    • @scorpiyooo4559
      @scorpiyooo4559 Před 2 lety +1

      She is jealous as FUCKK. I’d be mad too lookin like rah

    • @brianahughes5545
      @brianahughes5545 Před 8 měsíci

      No but she is not wrong for saying how she feels

    • @jalesaprince88
      @jalesaprince88 Před 8 měsíci +9

      @@brianahughes5545 she can say how she feel pretaining to ger wedding and how she has been absent the other stuff was just a jab because she was mad…

    • @RealTalk1411
      @RealTalk1411 Před 4 měsíci +5

      ​@@brianahughes5545 Rah was wrong. There is no justifying it. Tahiry is right. When she posts pictures that's her job. She's a model. When Joe does it, he is clearly trying to get a rise out of someone. He is doing it for attention. Two completely different situations.

  • @ruefullysage
    @ruefullysage Před 3 lety +470

    the producers letting saigon go off like that without stepping in.... wtf is going on

    • @BrittaniMeShay
      @BrittaniMeShay Před 3 lety +69

      Same thing I was thinking! They let that go on too long

    • @Ohchelle2nasty
      @Ohchelle2nasty Před 3 lety +16

      @@BrittaniMeShay I know that’s was ridiculous

    • @InTshepyWeTrust
      @InTshepyWeTrust Před 3 lety +51

      What's funny to me is in the following scene he opens with we took OUR SON to a speech therapist and the therapist said WE (the parents) need to work on our communication. Like of course your son doesn't talk to you because you're an asshole who probably makes him feel like trash each time he attempts to speak. Ladies please be careful! I know abortion is frowned upon but I'd rather do that then deal with someone like Saigon.

    • @adrianavilchez2706
      @adrianavilchez2706 Před 2 lety +15

      @@InTshepyWeTrust Fr sis I don’t like abortions but man you right

    • @lacymacdougall9660
      @lacymacdougall9660 Před 2 lety +1

      Why don't you like abortions? Because it's murder? But you'd rather murder a child then it have a chance at life with an imperfect father? That makes no sense.

  • @MsMeow1984
    @MsMeow1984 Před 4 lety +1904

    Joe's so gross. How belittling and THIS is the dialogue of a Narcissistic Person, a great tool to show people red flags, gaslighting etc

  • @andrejones5906
    @andrejones5906 Před 4 lety +1037

    Joe was back doing drugs and was still heartbroken at the fact Tahiry decided to put herself first & that’s why he’s MAD now

    • @brigidperez
      @brigidperez Před 4 lety +41

      Jones Deandre the thing is what it her fault he was on drugs? Did she force him? I feel like as adults Most of us can’t take Full responsibility for our actions and relationships won’t work until we can fully acknowledge that we are the ones that put ourselves in predicaments

    • @angelsweet9611
      @angelsweet9611 Před 4 lety +1

      and so did CYN

    • @abrilllanos8920
      @abrilllanos8920 Před 4 lety +1

      You can tell too

  • @MarisLikeParis
    @MarisLikeParis Před 3 lety +140

    Saigon and Joe are the most draining men I’ve ever seen

  • @DrunkoffA
    @DrunkoffA Před 4 lety +900

    I’m sorry that man talking to his child’s mother made me sick , children develop at their own pace . How dare u disrespect her , then tell her don’t walk away

    • @tanisha.r.thomas
      @tanisha.r.thomas Před 3 lety +61

      He wanna get to know her a year after the baby is born..lol. classic project guy....should have known her before you went raw, dont you think?

    • @DrunkoffA
      @DrunkoffA Před 3 lety +12

      @@tanisha.r.thomas righhh now he wants to “ know her”

    • @robertwatson2605
      @robertwatson2605 Před 3 lety +20

      I was thinking the same thing, why she would even consider living with this clown is crazy..Girl run as far away as you can...these two sound like children, not someones parents!!!IJS

    • @joannemccloud4501
      @joannemccloud4501 Před 2 lety +4

      I know this weak n...a threw hier bag across the parking lot . Ugh

    • @thecircle2662
      @thecircle2662 Před 2 lety +2

      @@tanisha.r.thomas goes both ways. she could have not had sex with him.

  • @angelar.2088
    @angelar.2088 Před 4 lety +1769

    No respectable woman would go in another woman's bedroom if his woman did not invite her ! Wtf is wrong with him ? 🤨😳😔

    • @zoepose8256
      @zoepose8256 Před 4 lety +96

      In their home in general, know your place!💯

    • @OnlyRealsht
      @OnlyRealsht Před 4 lety +15

      Exactly!!!

    • @OnlyRealsht
      @OnlyRealsht Před 4 lety +9

      @@zoepose8256 period facts facts

    • @nayhoopla
      @nayhoopla Před 4 lety +21

      Ugh.... Nasty beard pill voice Joe... Damn I'm glad he changed his ways

    • @jrodd05
      @jrodd05 Před 4 lety +66

      Ughhh he’s a narcissist. Minimizing her anger and calling her crazy. Men call women crazy when they get caught... I would’ve smacked him and left his ass.

  • @alanboy5532
    @alanboy5532 Před 4 lety +807

    I can't stand Joe. He is so manipulative to all these women

  • @chellez29
    @chellez29 Před 4 lety +293

    If the baby is only 1.5 years, you cannot determine his so-called condition. You cannot question her parenting skills at that point.

    • @naia1362
      @naia1362 Před 3 lety +40

      Right. If the baby was 4, I would understand concern. But it’s still a baby tf

    • @angi7717
      @angi7717 Před 2 lety +18

      As the mother of 2 boys I can say their speech doesn't develop as quickly as girls at the age of 1.5 or 2....my son's are 13 and 4 and they are both perfectly fine and now talk nonstop lol.

  • @deebo5475
    @deebo5475 Před 3 lety +323

    Tahiry is a smart woman...she knows that marriage doesn't change a person!

  • @blackgirlonboard
    @blackgirlonboard Před 4 lety +971

    Saigon gives me abusive vibes, emotionally and physically.

  • @kairom9208
    @kairom9208 Před 4 lety +1482

    Joe is the type to explain the physics of wet paint drying, when confronted.

  • @mariaajoss
    @mariaajoss Před 4 lety +258

    Toxic men really want to tell you, that you left at thick when you value yourself and walk away.

  • @biglwutang84
    @biglwutang84 Před 4 lety +173

    Siagon is dangerous. Hes so unstable and crazy aggressive.

  • @impoorfornow
    @impoorfornow Před 4 lety +2284

    Side note: Monique should be the host for EVERY reunion.

    • @xoreocutieexd
      @xoreocutieexd Před 4 lety +46

      Beisha Bole Deadass !!! Sis be getting the tea 🍵

    • @mckenziepayne5185
      @mckenziepayne5185 Před 4 lety +16

      Beisha Bole Claudia is the new host for love and hip hop Miami 🤷🏾‍♀️

    • @impoorfornow
      @impoorfornow Před 4 lety +3

      Mckenzie Payne 👀I need to see that....

    • @andreacoleman4684
      @andreacoleman4684 Před 4 lety +1

      Beisha....true that

    • @bryangraham772
      @bryangraham772 Před 3 lety +14

      She should I realize she Solve everyone’s problems in that reunion

  • @latasha6100
    @latasha6100 Před 4 lety +488

    Why does dude think his 1.5 year old should be having a full conversation...he's slow

    • @malakaimusa1476
      @malakaimusa1476 Před 3 lety +80

      That's what i am wondering. Plus girls develop waaaay faster than boys

    • @candisweets8627
      @candisweets8627 Před 3 lety +21

      I have 2 boys they both walked at 7 months and they spoke clearly early as well but I never compare children everyone develops on their own time

    • @sie9617
      @sie9617 Před 3 lety +1

      Cmon, he is worried. Thats a father

    • @Lexxatnite
      @Lexxatnite Před 3 lety +45

      @@sie9617 it’s Ok to be worried but to react how he did is disgusting

    • @aniyahlove3518
      @aniyahlove3518 Před 3 lety +36

      @@candisweets8627 “but I never compare children” as you compare them 😂. Just saying girl.

  • @XactlyCeSe1
    @XactlyCeSe1 Před 3 lety +286

    That Saigon guy is dangerous. My goodness I'm clutching my pearls. He's scary 😶

  • @angelgranger5295
    @angelgranger5295 Před rokem +99

    I'll give Joe credit. That was a beautiful and creative proposal but I agree with Tahiry's decision.... No way would I let someone keep hurting me and settle down with them for the rest of my life. I'm so proud of her thinking about what was best for herself

  • @hightopv1352
    @hightopv1352 Před 4 lety +1435

    Saigon is a narcissist. He's gaslighting the hell out of Erica and she is getting sucked into his negativity.
    He's so damn emotional. He's using the son as a way to stay close to her and abuse her.

    • @DomDom0990
      @DomDom0990 Před 4 lety +88

      vanessa It was so hard to watch.. 😓

    • @Noxolo_Shangase
      @Noxolo_Shangase Před 4 lety +86

      So true, I honestly felt he could Definitely put hands on a woman.

    • @blane6592
      @blane6592 Před 4 lety +31

      vanessa girllll!!! Nail on the head!!!

    • @hightopv1352
      @hightopv1352 Před 4 lety +35

      @@DomDom0990 right. You could feel the mental turmoil. He makes Joe Budden look appealing.

    • @daniellecaruso7057
      @daniellecaruso7057 Před 4 lety +71

      That was terrible the way he was imitating his own child that maybe could have god forbid had a disability and he does that and says that about his son’s mother disgusting

  • @tjaxn
    @tjaxn Před 4 lety +1348

    The way Saigon disrespected Erica Jean, there’s no coming back from that. The relationship between us will be strictly coparenting and nothing more. He’s a poor example and excuse of a man.. just throw the whole man away 🚮 🗑

    • @marisol8924
      @marisol8924 Před 4 lety +43

      latoyalatrice29 chunk the deuce and never turn back. what a disgrace of a man

    • @FranckYound
      @FranckYound Před 4 lety +76

      latoyalatrice29 I’m a man and I was ashamed. Such bad example.

    • @tjaxn
      @tjaxn Před 4 lety +69

      Mari Sol Yes!! What makes it worse is that he arrogantly does it and really think he had reasons to justify it 🤦🏽‍♀️

    • @tjaxn
      @tjaxn Před 4 lety +25

      Franck Yound Yes he is but no need to be ashamed. Even tho he’s a man and he’s not representing you all in a good way, just know that you’re not like and that he’s definitely a different breed that obviously wasn’t raised to respect women because if he was, he wouldn’t be treating the mother of his kids or any woman for that matter like that. 🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @MsLovelylady32
      @MsLovelylady32 Před 4 lety +31

      Exactly blocked my son's father for this exact behavior. I'll let the courts settle this.... sad because my son loves his dad

  • @maggiebrooks2550
    @maggiebrooks2550 Před rokem +64

    For Tahiry to notice the sheets are changed and to know to go looking for the pillowcases says everything about her relationship with Joe.
    If it was myself, I would hope that I could maintain control like Tahiry, but there is a possibility that I would lose my mind. 🥴😵‍💫🤬

  • @madi6006
    @madi6006 Před 4 lety +70

    Rich got mad bc nya was telling then truth, the whole “creep squad” some weird ass old guys who bring in girls from the strip club making them think they boutta be Nicki Minaj or sum& none of them broke an artist yet😂

  • @lilmsmoni12
    @lilmsmoni12 Před 4 lety +437

    Rashida Ali stay flip-flopping on her "friends".

    • @carmendilcherd4765
      @carmendilcherd4765 Před 4 lety +3

      Ain't nobody on this "show" "friends"!!! Shit is real scripted and horribly acted out!!! They're paid to"be friends"!!!! ALL of it women on here get passed around from man to man!!!! They're ALL TAINTED!!!!!

  • @RoxyReyes
    @RoxyReyes Před 2 lety +75

    You know Joe had a woman face down on that pillow.smh

    • @evaswritingvault3066
      @evaswritingvault3066 Před 2 lety +12

      ...and really poorly attempted to explain it away.

    • @XHxneyOppz
      @XHxneyOppz Před 2 lety +13

      Deadass like he cant even lie good, he tried to gas light her into thinking she’s crazy

  • @victoriamiranda280
    @victoriamiranda280 Před 3 lety +106

    Naya picking up the birken inspecting it and saying questionable 🤨 had me laughing 😂 she wild

  • @DRodriguez18
    @DRodriguez18 Před 4 lety +671

    Why is Saigon in Chuck E. Cheese everyday? 🤔

  • @kittykat428
    @kittykat428 Před 4 lety +801

    Rah Ali got some nerves talking about Tahairy doing the same things she was doing in her 20's when she's damn near 50 fighting!!

    • @ahkeeantahkeeant8096
      @ahkeeantahkeeant8096 Před 3 lety +31

      an old lady will fight you with her cane and all ....you didn't know .....lol

    • @mjsmum88
      @mjsmum88 Před 3 lety +11

      Rah Ahi is really like that.. Nobody is goin to mess with her. She knotted up Cardi and she never responded. Jus sayin

    • @katrinathankyousiranderson164
      @katrinathankyousiranderson164 Před 3 lety

      That Part 😂😂😂😂

    • @MichelleLuvn25
      @MichelleLuvn25 Před 3 lety +25

      @@mjsmum88 she knotted up cardi ? When 😭 cuz Skyy beat Rah ass 😂😂 rah ain’t fighting shit😂😭😭😭

    • @v.g7279
      @v.g7279 Před 3 lety +4

      @@MichelleLuvn25 😭😭🤣🤣 yessss that was funny

  • @sukiversace9645
    @sukiversace9645 Před 3 lety +178

    15:35 I respect ERica so much and how she held her ground on it because he really was disrespecting her and THEIR child. it's actually scientifically proven that girls develop faster than boys. he's really just tryna shit on her.

    • @mementomorgan6721
      @mementomorgan6721 Před 2 lety +13

      Yep. My daughter is so different from my son. Talked very early and a lot. Her brother was quiet until 3 even with speech therapy. He just spoke when he was ready.

  • @lovelyjess1605
    @lovelyjess1605 Před 3 lety +58

    Tahiry is a Taurus and when we say NO there’s no changing are minds 😭🥴

  • @RandomBlackGamer
    @RandomBlackGamer Před 4 lety +1292

    Joe obviously has a personality complex that runs females away. You got podcast Joe, who seems to be a very cool & likable guy. There's smooth Joe, who obviously woo's the beautiful ladies. Depressed Joe, who's probably a little tough to deal with but you still wanna help. And then there's narcissistic Joe, who loves belittling people because he doesn't know how to communicate his feelings. All of these personality traits make for an unstable individual who people don't wanna deal with. Because they don't feel like anticipating the inevitable psychotic episode.

    • @ambermurray2862
      @ambermurray2862 Před 4 lety +79

      He's a classic abuser

    • @cybelclarke3920
      @cybelclarke3920 Před 3 lety +95

      You read TF out of Joe 😂

    • @SmileyAdventures
      @SmileyAdventures Před 3 lety +21

      THISSSSSSSSSSSS!

    • @user-yh8jr8tk9z
      @user-yh8jr8tk9z Před 3 lety +28

      AMEN. Except this type of person appeals a lot to women unfortunately because women always want to help/fix men. So people do want to deal with it because they have a happy ending in their heads which almost always never happens.

    • @charlottem.1477
      @charlottem.1477 Před 3 lety +34

      @@user-yh8jr8tk9z it’s bc no one starts a relationship being a jerk. They send their representative. How do you think most abusive relationships start? They start out nice...

  • @Raybabyloves
    @Raybabyloves Před 4 lety +1558

    Rah Ali always seem like hater to me 🤷🏾‍♀️🤷🏾‍♀️🤷🏾‍♀️

    • @tiabia8839
      @tiabia8839 Před 4 lety +81

      Seray Andrews because she is

    • @Savannahyoutunedin
      @Savannahyoutunedin Před 4 lety +45

      Always

    • @GlamFameKen555
      @GlamFameKen555 Před 4 lety +143

      She does, but there may be a truth to what she is saying. I just would not have delivered it the way that she did, especially in the state where Tahiry was in

    • @BizzzyBee
      @BizzzyBee Před 4 lety +59

      @@GlamFameKen555 I agree, I was like damn sis you didn't need to go in on her like that.

    • @GlamFameKen555
      @GlamFameKen555 Před 4 lety +43

      @@BizzzyBee right we must always remember to speak the Truth in Love and to give it in a timely manner

  • @xoxoyanni
    @xoxoyanni Před 4 lety +70

    “You left at thick” smh.. Tahiry deserves better.

  • @princesskf5157
    @princesskf5157 Před 4 lety +181

    Erica Jean has a nightmare baby father he is disrespectful to her she deserves so much better so sad😢

  • @Badbostonbitch
    @Badbostonbitch Před 4 lety +381

    Why did the producers and security allow Saigon to do all that to his BM ... smfh

    • @theaudacityofhumans723
      @theaudacityofhumans723 Před 3 lety +20

      Exactlyyyyyy made me sooooo angry

    • @jodyjojo1381
      @jodyjojo1381 Před 3 lety +26

      Because nobody protects us

    • @Badbostonbitch
      @Badbostonbitch Před 3 lety +8

      @@jodyjojo1381 it’s a shame 😤💯

    • @amandairizarry291
      @amandairizarry291 Před 2 lety +5

      I would backed up the car and ran his ass over, I KNOW she felt threatened, and she said repeatedly “get away from me” and security just stood there and did nothing. Smh

    • @Badbostonbitch
      @Badbostonbitch Před 2 lety +9

      @@amandairizarry291 the way he shouted in her face , you can definitely tell she was threatened. He’s disgusting , and at the reunion that year the shit he said made me believe it even more!

  • @bk4eva_876
    @bk4eva_876 Před 4 lety +551

    This Saigon s*** is awful to watch. He’s a whole mess.

    • @Noxolo_Shangase
      @Noxolo_Shangase Před 4 lety +66

      He is a terrible person, to shame her mothering skills is so sad.

    • @JoanRudith
      @JoanRudith Před 4 lety +52

      He had project twins, out there spreading is community sperm and gonna sit here and look down on a mother that's raising a child he's not?? Misogyny at the HIGHEST level!!!

    • @LaidbackNarration3000
      @LaidbackNarration3000 Před 4 lety +1

      Dont Lie!!!

    • @user-kc6im4um5w
      @user-kc6im4um5w Před 4 lety +16

      I hate him... he was on Iyanla fix my life, and they tried to paint him as a good person, father, ect.. and Iyanla had the nerve to be on his side!!!

    • @michelegugliotti5170
      @michelegugliotti5170 Před 4 lety +12

      For real. It was hard to watch. He wouldn’t even let her speak! And he is so fukin disrespectful and demeaning when he speaks to her. It’s disgusting.

  • @naomiking4159
    @naomiking4159 Před 3 lety +78

    I like Nya she ain't scared to speak her mind and she read tf out of Rich and everybody 🤣🤣🤣 I'm glad she did what she did, Joe have serious issues and can't be trusted like the rest of them! Saigon has no respect towards his Baby Mama and his son 💀😑😑🤦🏽‍♀🖕🏾

  • @kerianal9456
    @kerianal9456 Před 4 lety +47

    Dudes really be thinking if they pull out a ring that it’s gonna make somebody stay and fix everything💀

  • @smallt0wnc0untrygirl
    @smallt0wnc0untrygirl Před 4 lety +241

    Ladies stay far far away from the first 2 type of men!!!

    • @andremotivation6561
      @andremotivation6561 Před 4 lety +5

      Most won't unfortunately, most like the challenge and call the good guys who actually repsect them and show their feelings boring and werid

    • @smallt0wnc0untrygirl
      @smallt0wnc0untrygirl Před 4 lety

      @@andremotivation6561 truuueee

    • @lorylove492
      @lorylove492 Před 4 lety +1

      Andre E Oh boo hoo still can’t find a girlfriend. These type of dudes are the nice guys.

    • @lacid1334
      @lacid1334 Před 4 lety

      Period! I feel like that's literally the point of this video

    • @Simplykiebby
      @Simplykiebby Před 4 lety

      Andre E They’re abusive men.

  • @jmfia2391
    @jmfia2391 Před 4 lety +185

    Saigon had some serious issues... Dude needed some therapy. Maybe he grew up around women being disrespected, because he has no idea how to treat a woman. I hope he's changed. I was disgusted.🤮

    • @Antwalls92
      @Antwalls92 Před 3 měsíci +1

      That’s still no excuse for him to disrespect woman.

    • @jmfia2391
      @jmfia2391 Před 3 měsíci

      Shut up.i didn't say that. Goofy boy​@@Antwalls92

  • @guineapigsification
    @guineapigsification Před 4 lety +80

    Nya really told rich Dollaz what it was 😂

  • @missphilosophie
    @missphilosophie Před 3 lety +48

    Saigon is a damaged man, out here damaging everything he touches.

  • @TheDaintyGirlXO
    @TheDaintyGirlXO Před 4 lety +285

    Okay but why is no one talking about That Nya & Rich scene 😂 Nya read tf outta rich.

    • @d-nise6364
      @d-nise6364 Před 4 lety +70

      The only female that had the balls to tell him what it really was 👏🏽

    • @kassandrawiltshire1682
      @kassandrawiltshire1682 Před 4 lety +21

      Tyonna Scott the only time I actually liked Nya

    • @nimanixo
      @nimanixo Před 3 lety +1

      Onggg 😂😂😂

    • @MsAngelaSunshine
      @MsAngelaSunshine Před 3 lety +6

      Yes! She sassy, cute, and he is corny as hell.

    • @dess234
      @dess234 Před 3 lety +2

      @@d-nise6364 his friend did too! I forgot her name was it erica? Diamond?

  • @jaaayyperez
    @jaaayyperez Před 4 lety +580

    So not only does he not support her career and makes it about him and how she should feel bad, but then he had a girl in her house on her bed and didn’t tell her about it... and washed the sheets... how could anybody wanna be w somebody like that

    • @TheSamanthaEdit
      @TheSamanthaEdit Před 4 lety +41

      Curlee Fryyy right. He was gaslighting TF out of Tahiry

    • @kimmypretty5335
      @kimmypretty5335 Před 4 lety +14

      Good thing she left

    • @cordeliadale2787
      @cordeliadale2787 Před 4 lety +11

      He didn’t even wash the sheets 🤣

    • @andremotivation6561
      @andremotivation6561 Před 4 lety +3

      Lol yet she still wants him, whats going on with women like that?...

    • @chillicheese7072
      @chillicheese7072 Před 4 lety +18

      I didn’t realise that “ talking with a friend“ ends up with foundation on the pillowcase 🤔😂😂😂 BOOOOYYYY BYE

  • @kesleyk6731
    @kesleyk6731 Před rokem +53

    The fact that they let that man chase that women around and throw her purse is disgusting

    • @brittanijane92
      @brittanijane92 Před 9 měsíci +4

      Exactly! He shouldn’t have been allowed to follow her out of that restaurant. It’s crazy she had to hit that guy before they stopped it.

  • @iamamom4713
    @iamamom4713 Před 4 lety +58

    Saigon is so full of himself w his Napoleon syndrome.

  • @nanilopez7454
    @nanilopez7454 Před 4 lety +230

    The fact that he was chewing gum while proposing lol

  • @planetrock5864
    @planetrock5864 Před 4 lety +945

    I really feel if the cameras weren't on him..Saigon would have put his hands on Erica Jean. He seems really Explosive over small issues..so imagine when the going gets really tough, his emotions are all over the place. Very unstable personality this man has! I was scared for her just watching him😢

    • @justentertainingtv9686
      @justentertainingtv9686 Před 4 lety +81

      I feel so bad for her, how he going to treat her like unknown trash and call her a hood booger then in the next scene ask her to move in. This man is dangerous!

    • @awelechukwuemeka1382
      @awelechukwuemeka1382 Před 4 lety +33

      I agree he has no respect for her tbh and it's a damn shame she has your child have some respect treat her right. Alot of dudes think treating a woman respectfully makes you weak it does not I respect women but I'm no push over if your being rude I'll return the favour but Erica from what I've seen is a sweet woman not disrespectful or masculine like some women on these reality tv shows.

    • @tylasymone1862
      @tylasymone1862 Před 3 lety +34

      Idk if I’m crazy, but if he would’ve opened my car door like that after I’m obviously trying to leave. I would’ve kicked him dead in his nuts. That was mad aggressive.

    • @walkz007
      @walkz007 Před 3 lety +15

      @@tylasymone1862 for REAL🤣🤣Spit in his eye and locked the door ,why was he even following her ...it's how he acts in private definitely an abuser!!!

    • @barbaracristina1508
      @barbaracristina1508 Před 3 lety +4

      My ex is the same.

  • @MissChelle857
    @MissChelle857 Před 3 lety +9

    Erica Jean - It’s restraining order time, my dear

  • @kenyattabillups4769
    @kenyattabillups4769 Před 3 lety +16

    Saigon isn't even cute to be causing all that trouble

  • @Aubrey187
    @Aubrey187 Před 4 lety +176

    Saigon is mad verbally abusive to his childs mother! geeesh

  • @Shay_dippa
    @Shay_dippa Před 4 lety +135

    Rah: I ain’t had a fight all month long
    Joe: "You not gon have one todayy"
    Me: OOP-

  • @choppedandcruised
    @choppedandcruised Před rokem +7

    Lol Tahiry realized that slideshow represented none of what their relationship was. She was smart for saying no. The man is a narcissist through and through.

  • @Sagittarius-888
    @Sagittarius-888 Před rokem +7

    So awkward that cyn was right there watching tahiry n Joe on stage 😅😅😅

  • @jayysworldd..
    @jayysworldd.. Před 4 lety +342

    Joe budden is the type to see a tree and be fascinated by it 😂😂

  • @Kosher93
    @Kosher93 Před 4 lety +232

    Joe is definitely crazy but he doesn't hold a candle to Saigon lmaooooo

  • @MissKalunji
    @MissKalunji Před rokem +15

    The calmness of Joe is scary, amazing...wow...when Tahiry confronted him.

  • @kayleenabrutus2868
    @kayleenabrutus2868 Před 3 lety +59

    “All Spanish girls sleep with each other man” lmao ... Cyn has whole baby and get married with joe lmao 🙃😓

    • @bossytweed6664
      @bossytweed6664 Před 3 lety +10

      Eh and now Tahiry is with Vado who Rocky from an earlier season was flirting heavy with lmao

    • @NikkiGloom
      @NikkiGloom Před 3 lety +6

      ok but wait Spanish women comment -Isnt Nya Muslim now and Muslim men can have 4 wives - make it make sense? LOL im done.

  • @HjCrawford
    @HjCrawford Před 4 lety +923

    Tahiry showed her strength & self respect when she didnt take the ring.
    I have alot of respect for that lady.
    All these other trashy women fighting over these men who dont care about them are an embarassment!

  • @subirawalker415
    @subirawalker415 Před 4 lety +594

    First of all their (erica & saigon) son could be on the autism spectrum and he mocks him on tv. Like who raised you?

    • @scovyaporsha
      @scovyaporsha Před 4 lety +38

      Subira Walker I know, Jesus Christ. Sad all around

    • @egocentric222
      @egocentric222 Před 4 lety +32

      Yes, I thought the same.

    • @tyspumpkinn5376
      @tyspumpkinn5376 Před 4 lety +29

      My exact thoughts Its truly disgusting 🙄

    • @allyb5156
      @allyb5156 Před 4 lety +22

      I read that a lot of Narcissistic males produces Autistic Offsprings. Don't procreate with these Creatures

    • @VenekaWithDriveIntoGreatCredit
      @VenekaWithDriveIntoGreatCredit Před 4 lety +4

      @@allyb5156 😮 where. Please share.

  • @chellez29
    @chellez29 Před 4 lety +55

    Nya Lee is a pretty woman. She ain't got nothing but face, so you see her beauty! Yassss, gurl! Be pretty 😍

  • @ebonih7138
    @ebonih7138 Před 4 lety +34

    Mark my words - I refuse to marry while in a rocky relationship. 😂

  • @meriah10
    @meriah10 Před 4 lety +289

    Who sat that wig on top of Rah Fiona head like that, they ain’t right

  • @blane6592
    @blane6592 Před 4 lety +133

    Saigon is a psychopath!!! You in danger GIRL!

  • @dancing_qu33n
    @dancing_qu33n Před 3 lety +36

    Yes, every child develops at their own speed. My child didn't say much until he started primary school. Friends, family and also my Dr said it was normal for boys to b abit slower. Fast forward to his kindy year, his speech is fine. Lastyr his speech wasn't clear, a year later, he's fine. Hes now 5. Don't stress mama's n Papa's, they'll get there 🥰

    • @portiasithole4574
      @portiasithole4574 Před 2 lety

      Thank you for this
      💖💞💗

    • @twinkleeyes8176
      @twinkleeyes8176 Před měsícem

      Exactly my daughter was 14 months and once she turned two started saying all kinds of big words and long sentences!

  • @AshlyMonet
    @AshlyMonet Před 2 lety +5

    Tf u doing in chuckie cheese everyday 🤔🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @Kevinogarro1
    @Kevinogarro1 Před 4 lety +193

    Saigon really act like that on tv wow

    • @deej9
      @deej9 Před 4 lety +22

      Kevin O'G he was disrespectful, ew. He is terrible

    • @LaidbackNarration3000
      @LaidbackNarration3000 Před 4 lety

      Dont Lie!!!!!!

    • @vturner
      @vturner Před 4 lety +8

      disrespecting the mother of his child for clout, pure sickness

    • @Scissor18Luv
      @Scissor18Luv Před 4 lety

      Imagine when the cameras aren't rolling:(

  • @sweetvanilla24
    @sweetvanilla24 Před 4 lety +681

    I absolutely love Tahiry! She used to give Joe da business and she wasn't afraid to tell him.She reminds me of myself.I like that she out herself first and declined his marriage proposal

    • @LaidbackNarration3000
      @LaidbackNarration3000 Před 4 lety +4

      Shes 40 wif no kids and no husband , but I guess thats dope huh 🤔🤔😂😂😂😂

    • @scovyaporsha
      @scovyaporsha Před 4 lety +28

      mansa musa Poor you. For thinking that way.

    • @blase057
      @blase057 Před 4 lety +64

      mansa musa yeah because being unhappy in a marriage with kids is so much better than being single and carefree. You stupid af😭

    • @andremotivation6561
      @andremotivation6561 Před 4 lety +4

      Yet she still coming back to him..lol most women love drama

    • @Lants1
      @Lants1 Před 4 lety +3

      Girl stop comparing yourself to these women looool

  • @draesynesofficial
    @draesynesofficial Před rokem +5

    The guy says “da da da” all day. Lmao I’m sorry but that’s funny 😂

    • @orbius.6555
      @orbius.6555 Před 4 dny

      Ok I thought it was just me, almost spit out my drink. Horrible of him but the delivery was unfortunately funny

  • @derrickagarcia1028
    @derrickagarcia1028 Před 3 lety +29

    i'm sorry but MO needs to be at every reunion now she kept everyone calm

  • @lRlElD
    @lRlElD Před 4 lety +410

    best thing you can do for a narcissist is just leave silently and never look back and dont give them the time of day. you will never win with a narcissist. they feed on your energy, your essence like a hungry wolf or vampire. it makes them feel better to see you suffer. they thrive on that, they do not care for a happy relationship at all. they are sick deranged people.

    • @Shawna976
      @Shawna976 Před 3 lety +8

      this right here is soo true OMG!!!

    • @adrianavilchez2706
      @adrianavilchez2706 Před 2 lety +5

      Wow you said so much truth right here wow…… I never understood what it was … this is exactly it !!!!! Finding answers on my own damn life … this is my kids father shit

    • @Liiia8
      @Liiia8 Před 2 lety +3

      Yes he seemed to be very manipulative towards her always flipping the scrip who doesn’t give their partner proper praise for work I meannn…

    • @emmm_4465
      @emmm_4465 Před 2 lety +4

      never look back and if you can help it never let them back into your life! don't be mistaken they'll treat the next better, its a lie! look up Dr Ramani and Dr Les Dawson if this sounds like your relationship...narcs can k i ll your spiritually and particularly toxic ones can k i ll you outright and blame you!!

    • @mindyourmess4386
      @mindyourmess4386 Před rokem

      AMEN!!

  • @imthinkingaboutagooduserna8531

    Whoever styled Rah secretly hated her...

    • @itsyourgirltee3754
      @itsyourgirltee3754 Před 4 lety +16

      Rah and those Ronald McDonald tips in her hair😏😏 I kannt

    • @jessicawiley8699
      @jessicawiley8699 Před 4 lety +13

      I think her stylest was experimenting with her

    • @imthinkingaboutagooduserna8531
      @imthinkingaboutagooduserna8531 Před 4 lety +13

      @@jessicawiley8699 that isn't the place to be experimenting with styles.... she looked like she had been styled by an enemy...

    • @belindasims5290
      @belindasims5290 Před rokem +2

      😂😂🤣🤣

    • @kerronking6863
      @kerronking6863 Před rokem +2

      I thought nobody was gonna talk about that 😂😂🤣🤣

  • @Midnights_Mama-mg4vt
    @Midnights_Mama-mg4vt Před rokem +6

    Joe was so mad at the reunion😂 he know he was mad😂

  • @monetlewis1090
    @monetlewis1090 Před rokem +8

    rah was def jealous of tahiry cs they was friends for tht long and she waited all tht time to say tht

  • @meriah10
    @meriah10 Před 4 lety +272

    Nya wasn’t lying cuz Cyn hangin with Tahiry and now got a whole baby with Joe, bloop

    • @noirlily3413
      @noirlily3413 Před 4 lety +17

      I TELL YA!!!

    • @N.dial2007
      @N.dial2007 Před 4 lety +30

      Lmao I was looking for that comment!!!!

    • @shogun_assassinalice2829
      @shogun_assassinalice2829 Před 4 lety +16

      I see noooo lies with your comment!
      Is she the one that was arguing with Mariah Lynn? She looks so different!

    • @meghandarlin1050
      @meghandarlin1050 Před 4 lety +3

      @@shogun_assassinalice2829 yup that's my girl she don't look different to me she now wearing wigs now

    • @shogun_assassinalice2829
      @shogun_assassinalice2829 Před 4 lety

      @@meghandarlin1050 jmo respectively, her body has more definition now than in this vid. Like she toned up and it looks so good on her.

  • @JoanRudith
    @JoanRudith Před 4 lety +401

    OMG Saigon!!! Let's break this manipulative misogyny down. He brings her there to antagonize her and call her a bad mother, since their child is develeoping at a different speed than the other child he had with someone else who is close to the same age. The minute she responds to his antagonizing he comes with the "calm down we're not doing this here.' As if her behavior is overly emotional or somehow embarrassing. So she gets up to leave and then he pulls out the "don't walk away when I'm trying to talk about my son! This is your problem." I hope folks were able to see the problems in that! He is essentially trying to look like a good father by making her out to be a bad mother. But yet he doesn't realize that his son will one day see this and know that his father went on national TV to call his mother all kinds of names and shout at her in the streets as she's trying to walk away. Yea....father of the year, Saigon!

    • @kimeop123
      @kimeop123 Před 4 lety +5

      JoanRudith nah if your child not saying more words by the age of 2 then that child is speech delayed and a speech therapist

    • @JoanRudith
      @JoanRudith Před 4 lety +46

      @@kimeop123 kids do develop at different speeds and it's ALWAYS a good idea to seek expertise if anything might be wrong. But the way he went about it showed he cared more about his ego and how it will come across on tv than about the wellness of his child.

    • @kimeop123
      @kimeop123 Před 4 lety +2

      JoanRudith um no ma’am he should be saying more more at 2 at least 25 or more do you have kids ? Because if so you should know that because you fill out paperwork every time you go to see where they’re and where they supposed to be if a 2 years can’t have a full conversation with you then something is wrong and u should talk to your pediatrician so they can fill out paperwork to send to a speech Threapist I know because I had to it for my 2 years son.

    • @kellycarpenter933
      @kellycarpenter933 Před rokem +6

      He acts like my ex who ended up beating me up breaking my nose and put me in the hospital. Hes an abuser and the fake charm only lasts so long. They need to run fast

    • @melissahampton752
      @melissahampton752 Před rokem

      I believe he is being honest about their child and the truth hurts her to hear this about her child. ( understandably)

  • @erinstojkov9300
    @erinstojkov9300 Před 3 lety +36

    I will say- Nya is GORGEOUS. Face is flawless makeup is flawless. Beautiful beautiful girl

  • @tankmcgarrett6594
    @tankmcgarrett6594 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I love Nya Lee!!!! She read Rich Penniez for Filth!!!!! FROM THE BACK ROOM HUNTI!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @BaliforniaBunt
    @BaliforniaBunt Před 4 lety +309

    The way Monique intervene and stopped Erica and Nya before the started arguing again was too perfect she’s the best host she know how to keep control and still be funny and not too serious

  • @keishawilliams7546
    @keishawilliams7546 Před 4 lety +103

    Rai seems jealous of Tahiry that conversation went from hey friend to jealousy real quick.

  • @chrisjohnson4272
    @chrisjohnson4272 Před rokem +8

    "No because I'm beautiful and your 300 pounds"-Tahiry😂😂😂😂I know that cut deep

  • @MicrotelAtlantaFrontDesk

    its the " get to know the mother of son " for me . yall didnt do that before the baby ? lmao

  • @mitchmvtch
    @mitchmvtch Před 4 lety +520

    WE NEED MONIQUE HOSTING THIS SZN REUNION. SHE IS THE BEST CONVERSATIONALIST.

    • @arp5546
      @arp5546 Před 4 lety +15

      Yes!!! I said that!! That other host. I don’t really like her interview style.

    • @crysdee461
      @crysdee461 Před 4 lety +7

      Definitely

    • @thesunrisechick6878
      @thesunrisechick6878 Před 4 lety +6

      She steals the show cause half these people are boring

  • @shamarab4632
    @shamarab4632 Před 4 lety +80

    Tahiry knew her answer as soon as the proposal video started. Her reaction said it all.

  • @alexiselizondo9177
    @alexiselizondo9177 Před 4 lety +20

    Ra is sailty af.🤔🙃jealous much🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️💣

  • @diyajones
    @diyajones Před 2 lety +3

    NYA LEE: I came from the bottom
    ERICA: U ARE THE BOTTOM!
    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣