Shroud of Turin: Shocking New Evidence REVEALS THE TRUTH (Click to Watch!)
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- Shroud of Turin: Shocking New Evidence REVEALS THE TRUTH (Click to Watch!)
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Dear brothers and sisters.
Today, we embark on a journey to explore one of Christianity's most sacred relics: the Shroud of Turin. For centuries, this enigmatic artifact has been the subject of intense scrutiny and debate, with many seeking to unravel its authenticity. However, a groundbreaking new study has emerged, shattering our current understanding and presenting compelling evidence that could alter the course of history.
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The Holy Shroud is the most important relic of Christianity and bears witness through the centuries to the Resurrection of Jesus.
It didn't play any role for faith from the very beginning. Jesus appeared the women, his disciples and finally more than 500 others. NO SHROUD needed and mentioned as evidence to believe the resurrection and finally to believe in Jesus Christ.
1 Corinthians 15 (NKJB)
1Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, and in which you stand firm.
2By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,
4that He was buried, that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,
5and that He appeared to Cephasa and then to the Twelve.
6After that, He appeared to more than five hundred brothers at once, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep.
7Then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles. 8And last of all He appeared to me also, as to one of untimely birth.
@@wipo3654 Praise the Lord that only morons (who else?) are those that want to call the Shroud of Turin a fake.
It's a lie made up by man. Yeshua aka Jesus is fake not the son of God. Yeshua the negro from the negro tribe Judah is the true son of God. Jesus was made up by white man. Fake.
Your comment shows just how desperate you are for evidence. Any realistic person will know that the only genuine connection would be DNA, if you haven't got that you have nothing. It could be anybodys shroud.
NO SHROUD mentioned in the gospels anyway! Read and trust the Bible.
I started to think about the Shroud of Turin some weeks ago because quite a lot of CZcams channels claim that it is 100 % sure the burial cloth of Jesus. So I did what Paul said:
1Thess 5,21 but test them all; hold on to what is good,
I searched for all the relevant "burial" verses in the gospels and I did some basic Greek word studies on BibleHub (free bible study webpage - select Interlinear):
Mk 15,46 And Joseph bought linen cloth [SINDONA, singular] and taking him down, wrapped [ENEILESEN] him in the linen cloth [SINDONI, singular] and laid him in a tomb that had been cut out of the rock. And he rolled a stone against the entrance of the tomb.
Joh 19,39 Nicodemus also, who earlier had come to Jesus by night, came bringing a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds in weight [about 32 kg].
Joh 19,40 So they took the body of Jesus and bound [EDESAN] it in linen cloths [OTHONIOIS, plural] with [META] the spices [AROMATON; about 32 kg], as is the burial custom of the Jews.
Mk 16,1 When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices [AROMATA] so that they might go to anoint [ALEIPSOSIN] Jesus.
(1) SINDON > "a linen cloth" or "linen cloth"?
I quickly recognised that some Bible translations of SINDON are adding the indefinite article "a" although there is no one in the original Greek texts.
Is it mandatory to add "a" and is it also mandatory to understand "the" plus noun singular always as one piece only?
If SINDON must be understood as one large piece linen only (like the Shroud) - where the bandages (OTHONION) and the head cloth (SOUDARION) came from?
Why the gospel of John does not mention SINDON?
Answer: In the context SINDON must be translated/understood as a general material description "linen cloth" and it means all the needed burial cloth (bandages and head cloth). Joseph for sure knew what was needed according to the burial custom of (rich) Jews at that time.
And John didn't mention SINDON in his gospel because he also didn't mention the purchase of Joseph.
(2) SPICES > stains/particles
Nicodemus organised a 32 kg sticky mixture of myrrh and aloes. Together with Joseph they wrapped/bound the body in linen (OTHONION) WITH the spices. They completed this work according to the burial custom of Jews at that time.
STURP (Shroud Of Turin Research Program) used many analytical methods and finally it was even emphasised that not any trace of spices/oils were detected!?
But there must be at least non degradable stains/particles of spices (like for blood)!?
And if in the meantime a failure of STURP was revealed - how the adding of spices worked with something like the Shroud of Turin?
Answer: OTHONION means bandages and the spices were put between the bandages when the body - EXCEPT THE HEAD - was wrapped/bound by Joseph and Nicodemus. This was done promptly after taking Jesus from the cross.
(3) SOUDARION Shroud
If the complete body of Jesus was already wrapped/bound by Joseph and Nicodemus in something like the Shroud - why there was a need to add a head cloth (SOUDARION)? Also Lazarus wore a head cloth when coming out the tomb himself (Joh 11,44). And despite the burial cloth Lazarus was able to stand up and to go!
Answer: The SOUDARION was added also promply to cover the head and it remained there until the resurrection.
(4) WOMEN > anointing
Jesus was transported to the nearby rock-tomb and was laid in there. Some of the women observed this and nothing else was done in the tomb. After Sabbath the women came with the intention to anoint Jesus.
How this worked if the body was completely wrapped/bound in something like the Shroud with the spices?
To get access at least to his head they would have had to remove/destroy the wrapping and uncovering a naked man underneath!?
Answer: The women came after Sabbath with the intention to anoint Jesus' head (hair/face). This was an act of honour that could have been done easily by removing/readding the head cloth (SOUDARION). But it would have been impossible and illogic with something like the Shroud of Turin.
So there is no need to trust a still doubtful and controversial relic like the Shroud of Turin to be the authentic burial cloth of Jesus:
Joh 20,29 Then Jesus told him, ‘Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.’
There is a high risk to open the heart for the spirit of idoltry. The consequences you can read e.g. in almost all the commentaries of beverlyhurd8556 on different Shroud related channels where she agressively interfere herself and insults with invectives everybody who is not of her opinion. She knows the Shroud but she doesn't know Jesus and what he said:
Mt 5,22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, “Raca,” is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, “You fool!” will be in danger of the fire of hell.
But there is hope also for her:
1Joh 1,9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purif us from all unrighteousness.
Gal 5,22+23
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
I WALK BY FAITH,NOT BY SIGHT.
Yes, the gullible do.
I agree. I have strengthened my faith by what GOD has revealed to me in this world though.
This is for those who don't 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
But if the shroud is real then that’s the face of God.
Well, yes...but still its wonderful to see God's miracles! :D
FOREVER AMEN ❤
JESUS, I love you!
Thank you for this faith igniting production. Blessed is he who cometh in the name of the Lord. God bless you
Jesus has left us many proof of His true identity of Himself, like The Holy Eucharist, The Holy Shroud and many miracles in His Holy name are yet being performed till today. One needs to believe. I pray that all unbelievers eyes will be opened, so that they too may believe. Amen 🙏 Jesus I believe.❤
I believe!
I believe more than you!
I BELIEVE!!!!!
What really should be “debunked” is evolution. Jesus is real, Heaven is real, Hell is real, We are real. Angels are real…
and you cannot show any of your claims true. I have evidence evolution is true and you use the products of how it works every day.
You're absolutely right, I'm a Seer and have had paranormal experiences since I was about 3 years old,and I have been spoken to by Angels 3 times and Satan or Demons at least 2 times, I have seen Heaven and what it feels like and Hell and luckily didn't get to feel that, I have seen Angels and Demons and the Dark World, I realize how this sounds but believe me it's true, I was born with a beautiful Gift from God, the Catholic Church are the ones that told me that I have a very old and rare Blessing from God called Preternatural Memory which is the same as a Seer,if you are not familiar with these, please research it and you will see that they are real and not made up, most people today are ignoring what is happening in the world and don't realize how many paranormal and natural events that are in the Bible are occurring.
@@velkyn1 l do have family members and friends that have witnessed some of paranormal events, and technology evolution is different than Human evolution,all technical evolution is doing is making mankind lazier.
@@user-lm1rf6hg7e And still no evidence, just baseless claims. Your claims are just the same as from any other cult, worthless.
@@user-lm1rf6hg7e It's rather hilarious that people are this pathetic to make up such complete nonsense in order to claim how special they are. Oh and no such term as "preternatural memory".
MY LORD AND MY SAVIOUR ❤️❤️❤️❤️
It's a good witness for all the doubts Thomas Jewish people and Muslims can hear and understand 😊
If you’re looking for Jesus and God in a shroud, you’re looking in the wrong place.
So true!
The Shroud is a testimony. Don't be so extremist.
That’s a rather unscientific comment. Isn’t it appropriate to look for evidence, science and enlightenment wherever it may be found?
I can imagine someone telling Mendel he was wasting his time looking at fruit-flies, or Newton should stop playing with toys (optical prisms) bought at the fair.
John 20:29 says, "Jesus said to him, 'Because you have seen me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen, and have believed'".
Christianity is deep. Its got history
Christianity is man made. Will not get you into Heaven. All these religions are man made. Only go by what's in the Bible. Hebrews and Jews.
Good video. Well done!
Christ rose from the dead hallelujah
Utter rubbish
@@StephenSmall-sf5um Sure about that?
@alphamale1717 yes i live in the real world
Simply amazing
I enjoyed your videos, God bless.
If it's a forgery, why the Secondo Pia photographer's pictures shows the details more clearly than the Shroud itself? Think...
If you have Christ in your heart, you'll know it's Him.
I have always believed in the authenticity of the Shroud since the late 70’s. I didn’t think the carbon-14 test valid, and time has proven it was flawed.
The Vatican won't allow any more testing because science is nearer the truth about this medieval sheet of linen than the Bible will ever be
Aman🙏⛪ Thank you My Lord May God👑 Jesus Christ❣️🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🙏✝️Amen
Amen🙏
Sure--I knew that all along!😊
The original Shroud sample was cut from one of the corners. But what professional would ever think that this was a valid place to take a sample. The corners are where a person would grab to pull it taunt to eliminate wrinkles. Corners would obviously be the most vulnerable to damage and contamination. And anyone in their right mind would know that.
Yes it was pretty stupid of scientists to sample it from the corners you'd think they would have thought about it more .
But I doubt that the scientists were that stupid maybe they were told to sample the corners so it could be shown to be a fake by others not wanting the truth to come out
that it was in fact genuine .
It was a repaired part of the shroud hence the incorrect dating …….. the shroud passed all scientific tests during the STURP tests in 1978… only one that didn’t make the result was carbon dating…but now known to be contaminated with a later fibre interwoven into the original shroud…. Barry Schwartz the Jewish photographer from the STURP team now speaks on why he believes it is the shroud of Christ…. He had no interest in Christ before he joined the team and now he fully believes it to be authentic….
Yes you are right. They waffle on and on and take too long to get to the point
I don't need a shroud to believe in Jesus and God they are most certainly real
The fact that the image on the shroud could only have been produced by something with nuclear power says all it needs to say that it can’t be something from the 1300s
They also brought the shroud to life
I think they knew it was the real deal,but hid it,because,thats what the devil does! Seed a person with doubt.
The music detracts from this significant work of science.
Very much so.
That’s very interesting & also
1. Matthew chapter 24
2. We are already in the tribulation
3. A certain person (we don’t say the name) will bring a False peace
4. Jesus is the Cause of Armageddon
5. True Christians will be extracted before that war
6. Jesus’ return is with vengeance
Jesus is not the cause of armageddon satan is ,Jesus will not return for vengeance but as a savior for man and rid the world of this EVIL SATAN!!!!
Does anyone realise that Christ is among, with and IN us? Hmm, now THERE'S food for thought.
I learned that Jesus Christ had same blood type as me AB+
Yup. Tested on the Shroud and the Sudarium of Oviedo. Same-same.
You can tell that face image left on the shroud, is that of 'Royalty'.
I say a little prayer LORD allow me be a tiny thread in VERONIC,S VEIL THAT WIPED YOUR PRECIOUS BLOOD FROM YOUR VENORABLE FACE AMEN❤
As a cardiologist said he died from a broken heart.Because the enzymes in the blood stayed Red.Only when a person dies in that condition do the molecular structure of the blood cells are how they know.
Our Great Lord- The Prophet, The Priest, The King of Heaven- had to suffer not only for the forgiveness of sins, but for Christ's body to be left to be photographed as MOVING (literally) during the resurrection, therefore leaving records of his existence. In other words, Christ suffered intensely so that modern times had an opportunity to BELEIVE IN HIM in modern times and before the End of Times (I believe we are in Tribulation right now). What a precious gift from God! I pray the Holy Shroud converts hearts! Amen!
my opinion is why would Jesus leave a pic of his face ,it would tempt people into worshipng him and not god ,Jesus did not come here to show people he was here ,he was here to givec the word of God ,and through his teachings and miracles is all we need to know that the son of God was here ,Jesus taught us that all we need is faith in God to be saved we do not need images as to what he looked like to believe
@@jro7075 Jesus is ONE and the SAME with the Father. Its in the Gospel. Your confusion might come from the fact that Jesus was so humble that he always made the Eternal Father the focus of glory, but that doesn't mean we are not to worship Jesus. For whosoever worships the Son, also automatically worships the Father. Jesus came to earth to be witness of the Glory and Power of his Father- aside from also being the sacrificial and resurrected Lamb. So, the miracles behind the Shroud of Turin its a testimony of the existence of Jesus AND the Father in modern times. Amen. Glory be to God and his Son!
Leonardo’s best work. 👌
Oh sure. Except that the Shroud of Turin is 1400 years older than Da Vinci. 🤦♂
U should check out akaine kramarik painting of our lord
After Jesus was crucified and rose from the grave. The burial cloth was given to Mary his mother. Mary then traveled from isreal to France.
Why travel to France 1900 years ago? What to see or do?
The image on the shroud looks suspiciously like Frank Zappa!
We can say the X ray scattering findings still need validation per the authors of the study that did it. "the researchers acknowledge more cross-validation is needed, recommending other labs conduct WAXS testing on additional Shroud samples to confirm the approximately 2,000 year age determination .
So in summary, while the 1988 carbon dating suggested a medieval origin, this new peer-reviewed study utilizing WAXS technology dates the Shroud of Turin to around 2,000 years ago, potentially from the time of Christ, though further verification is still advised according to the researchers." This video is jumping the gun a little...
There is absolutely no point harping on about the ridiculous c14 test of the 80s when it's been known for ages that they tested a repair fragment known to be mediaeval and NOT the SHROUD The forgery hypothesis was always nonsensical from the beginning since no forger would or could produce such an object
It is jesus
It's real
Yeah right
I think God will protect the real identity of Jesus his son.
Fortunately I don’t need a shroud to believe and know my Lord and saviour, I’ve got infinitely more solid evidence, I read and believe my Bible. The only true source to have a saving knowledge of the Holy One of Israel, not relics.
Would God ever go against HIS Word: exodus 20?
How is the Shroud going against his word?
Our King will return and save us again.
I own full-size museum quality reproductions of the Lance of Longinus, crucifixion nails, crown of thorns, Roman flagrums, an actual set of tefillin with sliver covers, a full size copy of both the Shroud of Turin and the Sudarium. All items are stored in a silver case. I cannot handle any of these without weeping...... We are coming to a crossroads where our ability to discern truth from deception will be tested. - - - If you are unwilling to believe in the Creator of Everything; God the Father and His Son; Jesus then you are doomed to be deceived into believing in evolution and ETs (aliens) as our progenitors…. God help us all not to fall victim to this “great deception” in the name of Jesus, Amen! (Psalm 14:1 KJV, Matthew 24:24 KJV, 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12 KJV and to avoid deception John 3:16 KJV)
Its an old tablecloth from our old abbey in Burton uk , take a look at its dimensions and its been explained what happened , it was hung over an old knights templar alabaster column for years , and created the image , if you lay it out you will see it could not possibly have been on a person because the dimensions of the body image dont work out .
What are you even trying to say? Where in the _world_ did you ever get such a totally ridiculous story from? Care to share? I have a feeling that you will not.
@@beverlyhurd8556 the piece is in The Burton Mail newspaper from last year I think , I will get back to you later to hget the historians name etc .
@@andyking6051 Yeah, sure. That should be good for a fine chuckle or two.
@@beverlyhurd8556 well what is the point if you have cemented your opinion , all I will say is that forensic investigations have concluded that the shroud has traces of shellfish , other foods , and gypsum , Burton in the medieval age had its own Abbey and the area was a main source for alabaster / gypsum , and it is the exact proportions of medieval monastery table cloths , our monks in Burton loved their shellfish and if I wrapped you up in a cloth to get an imprint of you , from ear to ear your face would look way way wider than the image on the shroud when opened out , because the shroud face image is so narrow , meaning the image is not from a human , but it has a striking resemblance to a templar knight , and our Abbey contained these templar knight alabaster carvings in the form of vertical columns, and when the threat of raids came they were covered to protect them .
@@beverlyhurd8556 David Adkins story is in Birmingham live , and explains everything including that the image is from a carving of the Fisher King, the last guardian of the holy grail according to legend , Adkins is also an anthropologist .
What I think,know, and believe (from a very very young age);the shroud was and is Jesus. The shroud shows during the billianth speck of time Jesus resurrected! And, not needed for me, the scientific proof of authenticity.
And Jesus is my life anew miracle😁
Even if it were proven scientifically that the shroud was of the right age, does not prove that it wasn’t a hoax by an artist.
The Shroud image is so incredible that the burden of proof rests on those who think it is a forgery. STURP team spent over two years preparing a series of tests that would gather a vast amount of Shroud data in a relatively short period of time. STURP's primary goal was to determine the scientific properties of the image on the Shroud of Turin, and what might have caused it: After years of exhaustive study and evaluation of the data, STURP issued its Final Report in 1981: *"We can conclude for now that the Shroud image is that of a real human form of a scourged, crucified man. It is not the product of an artist."*
Pretty sophisticated hoax for the technolgy available at the time ,I highly doubt it !
@@gregorygant4242satan has the technology to fool you all
the Shroud is fake all icons are fake wake up people of God dont hold on too relics that are nothing but deception
the church has many Lies and wonders
satan has the the means to fool you
@@Glory3823 Oh man. What kind of doofus does it take to even come close to believing that Satan was behind the Holy Shroud? The Shroud has brought _millions_ of people just like me closer to God. Does that sound to you like something Satan would do? For real?? 🤦♂
Skeptics will always find reasons to doubt. It’s like asking an atheist if there is any evidence that would convince them to believe in God, and they respond that even if God appeared in a flash of light and spoke to them in a booming voice, they would believe they were hallucinating before they believed it was God. I suspect similarly, no amount of evidence would convince you of something you refuse to believe.
Will they soon animate the image with AI?
Revelation 13:
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
IT was unfortunate that they couldn't use DNA. BELIEVE what you will. I find proof of Jesus through my actions.
what makes the shroud very "fake-alike" is what you can see under the beard. there is something which looks like a metal plate holder and template for the face, very similiar to the Mask of Agememnon. some are claiming that this is maybe is the script where his death sentence was written, but that makes no sense to me that Joseph from Arimathea and nicodemus didn't remove this script from his body.
1 Corinthians 15:1-4
Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:1 Corinthians 15:1-4
Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
So the crucifixion happened in Italy in the 13th century?
What are you talking about? Did you think that people were still getting nailed to crosses in the 13th century in Italy??
If one of the Ten Commandments prohibits making images of anything in heaven, on the Earth, or below the Earth, why would the Almighty God make an image of something he would know we’d probably bow down to or worship in breach of that same commandment?
Seriously... this is very dubious in terms of aligning with scriptures.
Is this the image that we will be commanded to worship by the Antichrist?
Is this the image that will be given the power to speak blasphemous things?
Shows how much you know. Very little obviously. A graven image is something that man made and is worshiped as if it is a living thing. God never commanded anyone not to make images of things. He commanded that people do not make images of things and worship them. Making images of things, fine. But making images of things and worshiping them as if they are living things he commanded against.
It’s definitely the double of Wilfred bramall from steptoe and son.
Luuka evangeelium 24:Jeesus ilmub üheteistkümnele jüngrile
36 Aga kui nad seda kõike rääkisid, seisis Jeesus ise nende keskel
ja ütles neile: „Rahu olgu teile!”
37 Aga nemad kohkusid ja lõid kartma, arvates end vaimu nägevat.
38 Ent tema ütles neile: „Miks te olete nii kohkunud ja miks
sellised kahtlused tõusevad teie südames?
39 Vaadake mu käsi ja mu jalgu, et see olen mina ise!
Puudutage mind kätega ja vaadake, sest vaimul ei ole ju liha ega luid,
nõnda nagu te minul näete olevat!”
40 Ja seda öeldes näitas Jeesus neile oma käsi ja jalgu.
41 Aga kui nad rõõmu pärast ikka veel ei uskunud ja imestasid,
ütles ta neile: „Kas teil on siin mingit söögipoolist?”
42 Nemad panid ta ette tüki küpsetatud kala,
43 ja Jeesus võttis ja sõi nende silma all.
Johannese evangeelium 14:Jeesus julgustab jüngreid
1 Teie süda ärgu ehmugu! Uskuge Jumalasse ja uskuge minusse!
2 Minu Isa majas on palju eluasemeid. Kui see nõnda ei oleks, kas ma siis
oleksin teile öelnud, et ma lähen teile aset valmistama?
3 Ja kui ma olen läinud ja teile aseme valmistanud, tulen ma jälle
tagasi ja võtan teid kaasa enese juurde, et teiegi oleksite seal, kus
olen mina.
4 Ja kuhu ma lähen, sinna te teate teed.”
5 Toomas ütles talle: „Issand, me ei tea, kuhu sa lähed, kuidas me
siis võime teada teed?”
6 Jeesus ütles talle: „Mina olen tee ja tõde ja elu. Ükski ei saa
minna Isa juurde muidu kui minu kaudu.
7 Kui te oleksite tundnud mind, siis te tunneksite ka mu Isa. Nüüd te
tunnete teda ja olete teda näinud.” 11 Uskuge mind, et mina olen Isas ja Isa on minus. Kui te ei usu
muu pärast, siis uskuge mu tegude tõttu.
Apostlite teod 20:28 Seepärast pange tähele iseennast ja kogu karja, kelle
ülevaatajaks Püha Vaim on teid pannud, et te karjastena hoiaksite Jumala
kogudust, mille ta on saanud iseenese vere läbi.
Pauluse esimene kiri korintlastele 15:3 Ma olen teile ju kõigepealt edasi andnud seda, mida ma ka
ise olen vastu võtnud: et Kristus suri meie pattude eest, nagu on
kirjutatud pühades kirjades,
4 ja et ta maeti maha ja äratati kolmandal päeval üles
pühade kirjade järgi
5 ja et ta näitas ennast Keefasele, seejärel neile
kaheteistkümnele,
6 seejärel näitas ta ennast ühtaegu enam kui viiesajale vennale,
kellest enamik on veel praegugi elus, mõned aga on
läinud magama;
7 siis näitas ta ennast Jaakobusele, seejärel kõigile
apostlitele.
8 Aga kõige viimaks näitas ta ennast ka minule kui äbarikule.
Pauluse kiri galaatlastele 4:4 Aga kui aeg sai täis, läkitas Jumal oma Poja, kes sündis naisest,
sündis Seaduse alla,
5 lahti ostma seadusealuseid, et me saaksime pojaseisuse.
6 Et te olete aga pojad, siis on Jumal läkitanud teie südamesse
oma Poja Vaimu, kes hüüab: „Abba! Isa!”
7 Nõnda ei ole sa enam ori, vaid poeg, aga kui sa oled poeg,
siis sa oled ka pärija Jumala kaudu.
Pauluse kiri filiplastele 2:Hümn Kristusele
5 Mõtelge iseenestes sedasama, mida Kristuses Jeesuses:
6 kes, olles Jumala kuju,
ei arvanud osaks olla Jumalaga võrdne,
7 vaid loobus iseenese olust,
võttes orja kuju,
saades inimese sarnaseks;
ja ta leiti välimuselt inimesena.
8 Ta alandas iseennast,
saades kuulekaks surmani,
pealegi ristisurmani.
9 Seepärast on Jumal tõstnud ta kõrgemaks kõrgest
ja annetanud talle selle nime,
mis on üle iga nime,
10 et Jeesuse nimes
nõtkuks iga põlv
nii taevas kui maa peal kui maa all,
11 ja et iga keel tunnistaks:
Jeesus Kristus on Issand -
Jumala Isa kirkuseks.
Pauluse esimene kiri Timoteosele 3:16 Tunnistatavalt suur on jumalakartuse saladus:
Jumal on avalikuks saanud lihas,
õigeks tunnistatud vaimus,
nähtav olnud inglitele,
kuulutatud paganatele,
usutud maailmas,
võetud üles kirkusesse.
Kiri heebrealastele 13:8 Jeesus Kristus on seesama eile ja täna ja igavesti!
Pauluse kiri Tiitusele 2:11 Jah, Jumala arm on ilmunud päästvana kõigile inimestele
12 ja kasvatab meid, et me, öeldes lahti jumalakartmatusest ja
ilmalikest himudest, elaksime praegusel ajal mõõdukalt ja
õiglaselt ja jumalakartlikult,
13 oodates õndsa lootuse täitumist ning suure Jumala ja meie
Päästja Jeesuse Kristuse kirkuse ilmumist.
14 Tema on loovutanud iseenda meie eest, et meid lunastada kõigest
ülekohtust ja puhastada endale pärisrahvaks, innukaks headele tegudele.
Peetruse esimene kiri 1:14 Nii nagu kuulekad lapsed ärge ka teie kohanege oma kunagise teadmatuseaja himudega,
15 vaid saage pühaks kogu oma käitumisega, nii nagu on püha see, kes teid on kutsunud;
16 sest kirjutatud on: „Olge pühad, sest mina olen püha!”
17 Kui te hüüate Isaks teda, kes mõistab erapooletult kohut igaühe tegude järgi, siis elage kartuses oma majalisepõlv, teades, et
18 teid pole lunastatud kaduvate asjadega, hõbeda või kullaga teie tühisest esiisadelt päritud eluviisist,
19 vaid Kristuse kui laitmatu ja puhta Talle kalli verega.
20 Tema oli selleks ette määratud küll enne maailma rajamist, aga aegade lõpul on saanud avalikuks teie pärast,
21 kes te tema läbi olete ustavad Jumalale, kes on tema üles äratanud surnuist ja andnud talle kirkuse, nii et teie usk ja lootus oleksid Jumalas.
Johannese esimene kiri 4:2 Te tunnete Jumala Vaimu sellest: iga vaim, kes tunnistab Jeesust
Kristust lihasse tulnuna, see on Jumalast,
3 ning ükski vaim, kes seda Jeesust ei tunnista, ei ole Jumalast,
vaid see on antikristuse oma, kellest te olete kuulnud, et ta
tuleb, ja nüüd ta juba ongi maailmas.
Johannese ilmutus 1: Temale, kes meid
armastab ning on meid lunastanud meie pattudest oma verega
6 ning kes meid on teinud kuningriigiks, preestreiks Jumalale
ja oma Isale - temale olgu kirkus ja võimus igavesest ajast
igavesti! Aamen.
7 Ennäe, ta tuleb pilvedega
ja iga silm saab teda näha,
ka need, kes tema on läbi torganud,
ning kõik maa suguharud halisevad tema pärast.
Jah, aamen.
8 „Mina olen A ja O,” ütleb Issand Jumal, „kes on ja kes oli
ja kes tuleb, Kõigeväeline.”
17 Kui ma teda nägin, langesin ma tema jalge ette nagu
surnu. Ning tema pani oma parema käe mu peale ja ütles: „Ära
karda! Mina olen Esimene ja Viimne
18 ja Elav. Ma olin surnud, ning ennäe, ma elan igavesest
ajast igavesti ning minu käes on surma ja surmavalla võtmed.
19 Kirjuta siis, mida sa oled näinud ja mis on ning mis
sünnib pärast seda!
Johannese ilmutus 19:12 Tema silmad olid nagu tuleleek ning ta peas oli palju
peaehteid. Neile oli kirjutatud nimi, mida ei tea keegi muu
kui tema ise.
13 Ja tal oli üll verre kastetud kuub ning oli nimetatud tema nimi
- Jumala Sõna.
Well you may call it shocking new evidence, you might say it reveals the truth. Sounded like the same old story.
HOW TO MAKE A MEDIEVAL SHROUD FORGERY - For Those Who Wonder How 'They' Did It FORGER: Right guys... now, have we got the body of the dead guy ready? ASSISTANTS: Yeah... yeah.. hang on... FORGER: Was it much trouble finding a perfectly healthy six foot tall 30-something male who we were going to torture... beat up... and then crucify secretly and not get caught? ASSISTANTS: Oh yeah! It was a breeze! We just got this guy who looks exactly like our ideas of Jesus' appearance straight out of the local prison. You know... there's heaps of them there like that... all ready just for us to pull off this forgery. FORGER: Did you crucify the guy in exactly the same way as the First Century Romans did in the region of Judea? ASSISTANTS: Yeah.. yeah.. we got it exactly right... FORGER: ... including making sure that you put the nails through the wrists... even though everyone we know these days thinks the nails went through the palms...? ASSISTANTS: Yeah, yeah... we put the nails through the wrists... and before you ask, yes, we did use a Roman flagrum just like you told us to.... FORGER: ... and did you make sure you got the cloth from 1st century Judea... pollen traces and all...? ASSISTANTS: Yeah, we did that... FORGER: Okay, we gotta hurry... we want the blood stains to show up exactly like the guy was wrapped in a Shroud shortly after his death... just like in the Book, okay... ASSISTANTS: We're hurrying... but.. hang on... have you got the Special Image-Making Machine That No-one Else Around This Time Has Got ready....? FORGER: Yeah... but we better get this right... we've only got so much special cloth, you know.... ASSISTANTS: Oh, by the way, we made sure we pressed the Face Cloth over the guy's head ... so we got that bit from the Book right, too... FORGER: Okay... good... now, hold the Dead Guy there... put the arms over the crotch... okay, you can take the 1st Century Roman era coins from off his eyes now... and here we go... ready... ASSISTANTS: Hang on! This image we're making... what's it gonna look like...? You sure you know what you're doing? FORGER: Yeah, yeah.... It's gonna look like a crucified guy and we're gonna pass it off as the Shroud of Jesus! We're gonna do this to make people believe in the story... 'cos they need that... ASSISTANTS: So... who's gonna see this again...? FORGER: Everyone! We'll take it to the Pope or something. Yeah. That'll work. Who knows...? We might actually get paid a fortune for it. It'll help the Faith. We're doing something good. ASSISTANTS (after the image has been made): Umm... boss...? We can't see it clearly. Did it work? It's all pale brown and ... blurry.... and I don't think anyone's gonna get fooled by this. And how come it's all.. you know... 'weird'..? It doesn't look right; the bits that should be light are dark... and the shadows are all in the wrong way.... FORGER: Oh no... I've got that right. The Special Image-Making Machine That No-one Else Around This Time Has Got does that... It makes things go back to front. Yeah. People will understand that. Makes it look all mysterious and magical and special and miracle-y. People are stupid; they'll believe anything. ASSISTANTS: And why are we doing all this again...? FORGER: To strengthen the Christian Faith and to make bucket-loads of money. ASSISTANTS: You know what....? We can make HEAPS of these images!!! Just crank up that Machine Thingy again.... we can use any ol' cloth... no-one's gonna be that fussy to check. I mean, for crying out loud! Who do you know checks out the weave of centuries-old cloth from Ancient Judea... or looks for pollen....!?! And that's how you fake a Shroud of Turin. Yeah. That's how it all happened, folks. Simple as tha
Since day one when I first saw it and heard about it and saw the image on the cloth I knew right there and then this is our Lord and savior Jesus Christ.
HE A.S. NEEDS NOT RESURRECT CUZ HE WAS NEVER CRUCIFIED BUT HE A.S. IS ALREADY ON 4TH SKY ALIVE.
Huh?
Esimene Moosese raamat 3:21 Ja Issand Jumal tegi Aadamale ja ta naisele
nahkriided ning pani neile selga.
Esimene Moosese raamat 18:Iisaki sündimise tõotus
1 Ja Issand ilmutas ennast temale Mamre tammikus, kui ta istus
telgi ukse ees kõige palavamal päevaajal.
2 Ta tõstis oma silmad üles ja vaatas, ja ennäe, kolm meest seisid
ta ees. Ja nähes neid, tõttas ta telgi ukse juurest neile vastu
ja kummardas maani
3 ning ütles: „Issand, kui ma sinu silmis armu leian, siis ära mine
oma sulasest mööda!
Esimene Moosese raamat 32:25 Aga Jaakob ise jäi üksinda maha. Siis heitles üks mees temaga,
kuni hakkas koitma.
26 Aga kui see nägi, et ta ei saanud võimust tema üle, siis ta lõi
tema puusaliigest; ja Jaakobi puusaliiges nihkus paigast, kui ta
heitles temaga.
27 Ja mees ütles: „Lase mind lahti, sest juba koidab!” Aga tema
vastas: „Ei ma lase sind mitte, kui sa mind ei õnnista!”
28 Siis ta küsis temalt: „Mis su nimi on?” Ja ta vastas:
„Jaakob.”
29 Seepeale ütles tema: „Su nimi ärgu olgu enam Jaakob, vaid olgu
Iisrael, sest sa oled võidelnud Jumala ja inimestega ja oled
võitnud!”
30 Siis küsis Jaakob ja ütles: „Ütle nüüd mulle oma nimi!” Aga ta
vastas: „Miks sa mu nime küsid?” Ja ta õnnistas teda seal.
31 Ja Jaakob pani sellele paigale nimeks Penuel, sest ta ütles:
„Kuigi ma nägin Jumalat palgest palgesse, pääses siiski mu
hing!”
Teine Ajaraamat 7:Issanda auhiilgus templis
1 Kui Saalomon oma palve oli lõpetanud, siis tuli taevast
tuli ja põletas põletusohvri ja tapaohvrid, ja Issanda auhiilgus
täitis koja.
2 Ja preestrid ei võinud minna Issanda kotta, sest Issanda
auhiilgus oli täitnud Issanda koja.
3 Ja kui kõik Iisraeli lapsed nägid, kuidas tuli alla tuli ja
Issanda auhiilgus oli koja kohal, siis heitsid nad silmili maha
kivipõrandale, kummardasid ja tänasid Issandat, et tema on hea,
et tema heldus kestab igavesti.
Psalmid (Laulud)99:Jumala truudus Iisraeli vastu
1 Issand on kuningas!
Värisegu rahvad!
Ta istub keerubite peal.
Vabisegu maa!
2 Issand on suur Siionis
ja ta on kõrge üle kõigi rahvaste.
3 Andku nad au sinu suurele
ja kardetavale nimele:
see on püha!
4 Ja kuninga võimsus on,
et ta armastab õiglast kohut.
Sina oled kinnitanud õiguskorra,
sina oled seadnud õigluse ja õiguse Jaakobisse.
5 Ülistage Issandat, meie Jumalat,
ja kummardage tema jalgade järi ette:
tema on püha!
Õpetussõnad 30:4 Kes on läinud taevasse
ja on sealt alla tulnud?
Kes on kogunud tuule oma pihkudesse?
Kes on mähkinud vee vaibasse?
Kes on paigale pannud kõik maaääred?
Mis on ta nimi ja mis on ta poja nimi?
Küllap sa tead!
5 Jumala iga sõna on selge,
tema on kilbiks neile,
kes otsivad kaitset temalt.
Jesaja 6:Prohveti kutsumine
1 Sel aastal, kui kuningas Ussija suri, nägin ma Issandat istuvat
suurel ja kõrgel aujärjel, ja tema kuue palistused ulatusid templi seinast
seina.
2 Temast kõrgemal seisid seeravid; igaühel neist oli kuus tiiba:
kahega ta kattis oma palet, kahega ta kattis oma jalgu ja kahega ta
lendas.
3 Ja need hüüdsid üksteisele ning ütlesid: „Püha, püha, püha on
vägede Issand! Kogu maailm on täis tema au!”
4 Ja uksepiidad vabisesid hüüdjast häälest ning koda täitus
suitsuga.
5 Ja ma ütlesin: „Häda mulle, sest ma olen kadunud! Sellepärast et
ma olen roojane mees huultelt ja elan roojaste huultega rahva keskel;
sellepärast et mu silmad on näinud kuningat, vägede Issandat.”
Jeremija 23:5 Vaata, päevad tulevad, ütleb Issand,
mil ma lasen tõusta Taavetile
ühe õige võsu;
tema valitseb kui kuningas
ja talitab targasti,
tema teeb maal
õigust ja õiglust.
6 Tema päevil päästetakse Juuda
ja Iisrael elab julgesti;
ja see on nimi, millega teda hüütakse:
„Issand, meie õigus”.+
Hesekiel 1:26 Ja nende peade kohal oleva taevalaotuse peal oli midagi,
mis paistis safiirikividena, midagi aujärje sarnast. Ja selle
aujärje sarnase peal, ülal selle peal, oli keegi, kes oli
välimuselt inimese sarnane.
Jeesus Siirak 1:8 Üksainus on tark ja väga kardetav -
tema, kes istub oma aujärjel.
Baaruk 3:6 Niisugune on meie Jumal,
temaga sarnaseks ei saa pidada
mitte ühtki teist.
KOLME MEHE KIITUSLAUL TULISES AHJUS
51 Siis need kolm ahjus laulsid ja austasid ja kiitsid Jumalat nagu ühest suust, öeldes:
52 „Ole kiidetud, Issand, meie vanemate Jumal,
ole ülistatud ja ülendatud igavesti!
Kiidetud olgu sinu auline püha nimi,
üliväga ülistatud ja ülendatud ikka ja igavesti!
53 Ole kiidetud oma püha auhiilguse templis
ja ülistatud lauluga ning üliväga austatud igavesti!
54 Ole kiidetud sina, kes sa keerubite peal istudes
vaatad alla sügavikku,
ole ülistatud ja ülendatud igavesti!
55 Ole kiidetud oma kuningriigi aujärjel
ja ülistatud lauluga ning ülendatud igavesti!
56 Ole kiidetud taevavõlvil,
kuulugu sulle laul ja austus igavesti!
That doesn't look like a 35 years old Jesus
Perhaps you should know that Jesus was a Middle Eastern Jew that was outdoors most of his life. Either working or spreading the word. He was weathered. And when the Roman soldiers got to him he was severely beaten over two days. Then he was scourged then he was tortured until dead. How good do you think that he should look?
The average life span of the people of that time was much shorter than nowadays so the 33-35 yr old probably looked like today's 40-45 yr old
@@beverlyhurd8556 I am sorry but Jesus wouldn't care about thing like this. All he cares about is to save the world from being obsessed with things like this.
@@medusaskull9625 That's your opinion. And if Jesus cared for this or not that has nothing at all to do with anything. Do you think it was his idea to have his image flashed onto the Shroud when God resurrected him? And do you know anyone that is obsessed with the Shroud? I for one do not. I know it exist, and the evidence is clear that it once contained the body of our Lord Jesus. That's plenty good enough for me.
You would need DNA matching to prove that is connected to Jesus, and that you will never have. To accociate it to Jesus shows your desperation to overcome faith alone, which is required in the absence of evidence.
Your comment shows just how little you know about DNA testing. So what good would it do if they were able to take Jesus' and _only_ Jesus' DNA from the Shroud? Whose would they compare it to? Got a few strands of the Virgin Mary's hair? Maybe a drop or two of God's blood??
@@beverlyhurd8556 read my comment again and don't try and wriggle out of an undeniable fact. You don't realise that you're supporting my statement by adding to the impossibility of a connection. Stick to your faith, it's all you have.
@@dongee1664 Huh? Me stating facts is, wow, in your mind trying to 'wriggle' out of something?? Can you really be that dense? It does seem so. Sucks to be you that's for sure.
@@beverlyhurd8556 No Beverly. It is your inability to understand the point that I made which is that there is no sample of Jesus's blood and therefore no chance of proving the connection. In other words it could be anybodys shroud no matter how much you want it to be Jesus's......
@@dongee1664 The Shroud of Turin has been studied *tens of thousands of hours* by many dozens of scientists and doctors they have proven *100%* that it contained the body of a beaten, scourged, crucified man that was wearing a crown of thorns while on the cross and that it dates back to Biblical times. They cannot say 100% that it wrapped the body of Jesus Christ but no one with at least half a brain is going to think that it contained anyone other than him.
Well I don’t believe that it is
It's just a shroud, you showed no evidence for anything
Over the last several decades around 100 or so scientists and other researchers and their _tens of thousands of hours of examination_ have PROVEN that the Shroud of Turin once wrapped the body of a beaten, scourged, and crucified man that died wearing a crown of thorns. Who else could this have been other than Jesus??
Nope.
This is why the shroud is NOT the burial cloth of Jesus - Just the facts
The same God who said "Thou shall not make any graven image..." is going to violate His own word?
Here are my reasons why I believe the shroud is NOT that of Jesus, with the evidence that is conveniently left out of this video, or maybe just didn't know about:
1. Matthew 27:59 - So let's look at it in the original greek: enetylixen auto en sindoni kathara which means; "Wrapped it in a linen cloth clean". Wrapped is defined as roll round, envelop, I wrap up.
2. BURIAL PRACTICES OF THE HEBREWS OF THE FIRST CENTURY - They ENTWINED the bodies in cloth and a separate “Napkin” was placed over the head. John 20:7. Verse 6 states that there were "cloths" plural, not one.
As soon as death was certain, the deceased’s eyes were closed; the corpse was washed, and then WRAPPED and BOUND. According to the third-century C.E. Jewish tractate Semahot, men could only prepare the corpse of a man, but women could prepare both men and women. Literary depictions often suggest that perfumes or ointments were used for this washing. The body was wrapped and bound in strips of cloth.
TIMELINE:
* Jesus was found guilty by Pontius Pilate and crucified the next morning at "the third hour" (9 a.m.) on Passover day (15:25). Given the prolonged agony of crucifixion, Jesus died later that afternoon at the ninth hour (3 p.m.)
* According to Josephus, this would have been "from the ninth hour till the eleventh" (3 p.m. to 5 p.m.) (War of the Jews, VI.9.3).
John 11 has such preparations in view: Lazarus’s “hands and feet were bound with strips of cloth, and his face wrapped in a cloth” (John 11:44). Thus prepared, male relatives and friends would carry the corpse in a procession toward the place of interment, accompanied by friends, neighbors, and relatives. Such processions are described in the New Testament (Luke 7:12, for example) and in Josephus, who emphasizes the splendor of Herod’s funerary cortege (War I.671-3). Some Mishnaic texts suggest that processions occasionally halted in order to “make lamentation” for the dead (m. Meg. 4.3; m. B. Bath. 6.7, for example). Jewish rabbinic tradition state that a lamentation procession was allowed for most deceased EXCEPT those that were convicted criminals, they were denied a proper burial. Which is why Joseph of Arimathea went to Pilate to plead for the body.
3. JEWISH TEFILLIN IS ON THE SHROUD IMAGE:
Dr. Alan D. Whanger said he and his wife, Mary Whanger, used a polarized image overlay technique to discover the existence of a phylactery on the figure's left arm on the shroud. A phylactery is a small leather pouch worn by orthodox Jewish men during prayer and to hold small parchments on which scriptures are written.
Whanger said the discovery of the phylactery imprint on the left arm, coupled with his earlier discovery of a phylactery on the head of the image, indicates the person was Jewish. He said the fact that both phylacteries appear to have been torn open also indicates that the crucifixion of the person was very unusual. Jesus didn't wear a tefillin.
The use of a Tefillin:
* And it shall be for a sign for you upon your hand, and for a memorial between your eyes, that the law of the Lord may be in your mouth; for with a strong hand did the Lord bring you out of Egypt.-Exodus 13:9
* And it shall be for a sign upon your hand, and as frontlets between your eyes; for with a mighty hand did the Lord bring us forth out of Egypt.-Exodus 13:16
* And you shall bind them as a sign upon your arm, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes.-Deuteronomy 6:8
* You shall put these words of mine on your heart and on your soul; and you shall tie them for a sign upon your arm, and they shall be as frontlet between your eyes.-Deuteronomy 11:18
In case you didn't know, this is Jesus speaking in Exodus and Deuteronomy.
4. COINS ON THE EYES? Is NOT a Jewish practice, It would have been considered idolatry.
Contrary to popular etiology there is little evidence to connect the myth of Charon to the custom of placing a pair of coins on the eyes of the deceased, though the larger gold-foil coverings discussed above might include pieces shaped for the eyes. Pairs of coins are sometimes found in burials, including cremation urns; among the collections of the British Museum is an urn from Athens, ca. 300 BC, that contained cremated remains, two obols, and a terracotta figure of a mourning siren. Ancient Greek and Latin literary sources, however, mention a pair of coins only when a return trip is anticipated, as in the case of Psyche’s catabasis, and never in regard to sealing the eyes.
5. DNA:
They examined the human and non-human DNA found when the shroud and its backing cloth were vacuumed in 1977 and 1988. ... After sequencing some DNA of pollen and dust found on the shroud, they confirmed that many people from many different places came in contact with the shroud.
Not a Bone of the Messiah would be broken: (This includes the nose cartilage) The nose on the shroud shows that it was broken.
There are three prophecies in the Old Testament that specifically state that the Messiah will have NONE of His bones broken:
Prophecy 24 Exodus 12:43,46
Prophecy 36: Numbers 9:12
Prophecy 96: Psalms 34:20
6. ACID PIGMENTATION: HOW DID THE IMAGE GET THERE? (This is by no means a definite explanation but rather a possibility.)
In 2009, Luigi Garlaschelli, professor of organic chemistry at the University of Pavia, stated that he had made a full size reproduction of the Shroud of Turin using only medieval technologies. Garlaschelli placed a linen sheet over a volunteer and then rubbed it with an acidic pigment. The shroud was then aged in an oven before being washed to remove the pigment. He then added blood stains, scorches and water stains to replicate the original.
7. HISTORY -
The Bishop of Troyes, Henri of Poitiers, is upset because he believes the shroud is a fake; in fact, he has been told this by a man who claims to have painted it. Thirty years pass. It is now 1389, and Henri's successor, Pierre d'Archis, writes a long letter of protest about the shroud to Pope Clement VII. That is the verdict of Catholic Bishop Pierre d’Arcis who has written to tell the Pope it was “a clever sleight of hand” by someone “falsely declaring this was the actual shroud in which Jesus was enfolded in the tomb to attract the multitude so that MONEY might cunningly be wrung from them”.
8. FORENSIC STUDY
"Forensic scientist Dr Matteo Borrini of Liverpool John Moores University and Luigi Garlaschelli of the University of Pavia used a living volunteer and real and synthetic blood to try to simulate possible ways that the apparent bloodstains could have got onto the shroud.They concluded that two short rivulets of possible blood on the left hand of the shroud’s ghostly figure could only have been formed by someone who was upright with their arms at an angle of about 45 degrees.
This could be consistent with someone who had been crucified with their arms held in a Y shape. Unfortunately for shroud believers, however, the forearm blood stains would require the dead body to have been wrapped in the shroud with their arms in a different position - held almost vertically above their head, rather than at an angle of 45 degrees.
The researchers, whose findings have been published in the Journal of Forensic Sciences, formed the opinion that the supposed blood spatters seem to have fallen vertically and almost randomly from someone who might well have been standing over the cloth, rather than lying in it." Adam Lusher Journalist
9. THE NECKLACE AROUND THE NECK with the word "ן א ע" which shroud believers say is Aramaic for 'lamb'. These are Hebrew characters not Aramaic. The Aramaic word for "Lamb" would look like this: כַּר "The Wounded Sheep" טְלָאִים Again, "sheep" not lamb.
The Hebrew characters mean the following:
The Hebrew letter Ayin (ע) means eye and has to do with vision and bringing forth lights that are hidden.
Aleph (א) indicates the Oneness and Unity of the Creator.
And In Aramaic, Nun (ן) means fish, so Nun can be thought of as the fish that swims in the waters of the Torah.
So it seems like a big stretch to make this the burial cloth of Jesus. In WWII, the Nazi's claimed to have the spearhead that pierced His side which was captured by the Americans. This is where Raiders of the Lost Ark got the idea for whoever had the Ark would be victorious in battle. It's all folklore and myth and has nothing to do with the finished work of the cross.
You do not even know what a graven image is it seems. That's pretty sad. A graven image is something that man made and is worshiped as if it is a living thing. God never commanded anyone not to make images of things. He commanded that people do not make images of things and worship them. Making images of things, fine. But making images of things and worshiping them as if they are living things he commanded against. Cell phones are a better example of graven images. People worship their phones and talk to them as if they are living things. If making a image of something was a sin, every person who ever took a picture with their cell phone would be guilty of making a graven image.
Those of us with even a tiny bit of intelligence know that the bishop's letter to the Pope was after a local artist, in a feeble attempt to make a name for himself, told him that it was he that painted the cloth. The bishop, being the gullible old fool that he was, took him at his word. Of course, they did not have the testing back then they do now, or they quickly would have discovered that there is not so much as a drop of paint, or any other manmade material on the image on the Shroud. The fact is that there are no pigments, paints, dyes or stains have been found on the fibrils. There are no chemical or physical methods known which can account for the totality of the image, nor can any combination of physical, chemical, biological or medical circumstances explain the image adequately. There currently is a $1,000,000 reward out there for anyone that can prove that the image on there was manmade. Why don't you go claim it if you think that you know more than everyone else on the planet does?
The Shroud image is so incredible that the burden of proof rests on those who think it is a forgery. STURP team spent over two years preparing a series of tests that would gather a vast amount of Shroud data in a relatively short period of time. STURP's primary goal was to determine the scientific properties of the image on the Shroud of Turin, and what might have caused it: After years of exhaustive study and evaluation of the data, STURP issued its Final Report in 1981: "We can conclude for now that the Shroud image is that of a real human form of a scourged, crucified man. It is not the product of an artist." "The answer to the question of how the image was produced or what produced the image remains, now, as it has in the past, a mystery." No one has ever proven these 33 scientists and engineers wrong. All were part of leading tech firms. Los Alamos National Scientific Laboratories* Lockheed Corporation* U.S. Air Force Weapons Laboratories* Brooks Institute of Photography* University of Colorado* Oceanographic Services Inc.* Nuclear Technology Corporation* U.S. Air Force Academy* Jet Propulsion Laboratory* Sandia National Laboratory*, etc. The STRUP team included three Jewish members, one Mormon, one Evangelical, several Catholics, several Protestants and some avowed atheists and agnostics. Had religion ever been a criterion for membership, most of the STURP team members would never have agreed to participate. The notion that it is a forgery (a painting, other work of art) has been disproved so thoroughly and absolutely that it is permanently buried; they are based in part on the denial of empirical data. The scholarly consensus a mere 60 years ago deemed the Shroud a medieval fraud; the present evidence allows a firm archaeological judgement for authenticity.
@@beverlyhurd8556 Thank you for validating my point. You can worship your image if you want to. I'm not on here to convince you, I'm here to tell you. What you do with the information is on you.
@@dzamb You want to thank me for proving you wrong?? Hey- OK by me! Care to share with me who this idiot was that told you the outrageous lie that anyone was supposed to worship the Shroud of Turin? You sound like you have some serious mental issues. I wonder why that is? Not. 🤦♂
Nothing new about this.
This video is FAR TOO LONG. Most people will listen for a few minutes and get frustrated by waffle upon waffle. If you want to persuade GET TO THE POINT IMMEDIATELY.
The Shroud of Turin is a hoax for 3 reasons. 1)The shroud is all one garment and shows the depiction of a man’s face. We see in the scriptures that it was tradition to bury the dead in two sets of grave clothes, one being a napkin about the head. We see this in John 11:44 in the case of Lazarus, "And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go."
Then we see this with Christ in John 20:7-"And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself."
2)The man with the shroud has long hair. Jesus would not have shamed Himself for having long hair: 1st Corinthians 11:14-15, “Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?
But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.”
3)Testing on the shroud revealed the “Y” chromosome in the blood. Christ only had one earthly parent and that was Mary who only gave Him the “X” chromosome.
You are 100% wrong for three reasons as well.
1. As millions of us know, the face cloth of Jesus is today in Spain where it has been for the last *1400 years.* It is known as the Sudarium of Oviedo.
2. When it comes to the passage from I Cor. 11:14-15, one must remember that it was written at least 20 years after the death of Jesus. Closer study will reveal that it is simply Paul's personal opinion and certainly not a regulation which would have applied to Jesus during his lifetime. And it certainly was not against anything God ever said. Period.
3. When did you test the blood of Jesus and come up with the cockamamie idea that Jesus had a skewed chromosome count? If you’re short on time, here’s a quick answer: Jesus likely had the normal complement of 46 chromosomes that is present in humans today.
@@beverlyhurd8556 First of all, there are absolutely no opinions in the scriptures as they are all inspired by God. Secondly, the scriptures are correct in the traditional burying practices and so this proves the shroud is a hoax. Thirdly, I forgot which CZcams channel it’s on but I refuted the findings that the channel said scientists tested the blood and found the Y chromosome. It’s the scientists that tested the shroud and not me you have a problem with. All of the scriptures are exactly correct and thoroughly disproves the Shroud of Turin.
@@treystevenson9872 Thank goodness that the majority of people these days are intelligent enough not to make the atrocious and idiotic claim that the Shroud of Turin is a fake.
The Shroud image is so incredible that the burden of proof rests on those who think it is a forgery. STURP team spent over two years preparing a series of tests that would gather a vast amount of Shroud data in a relatively short period of time. STURP's primary goal was to determine the scientific properties of the image on the Shroud of Turin, and what might have caused it: After years of exhaustive study and evaluation of the data, STURP issued its Final Report in 1981: "We can conclude for now that the Shroud image is that of a real human form of a scourged, crucified man. It is not the product of an artist." "The answer to the question of how the image was produced or what produced the image remains, now, as it has in the past, a mystery." _No one has ever proven these 33 scientists and engineers wrong._ All were part of leading tech firms. Los Alamos National Scientific Laboratories* Lockheed Corporation* U.S. Air Force Weapons Laboratories* Brooks Institute of Photography* University of Colorado* Oceanographic Services Inc.* Nuclear Technology Corporation* U.S. Air Force Academy* Jet Propulsion Laboratory* Sandia National Laboratory*, etc. The STRUP team included three Jewish members, one Mormon, one Evangelical, several Catholics, several Protestants and some avowed atheists and agnostics. Had religion ever been a criterion for membership, most of the STURP team members would never have agreed to participate. The notion that it is a forgery (a painting, other work of art) has been disproved so thoroughly and absolutely that it is permanently buried; they are based in part on the denial of empirical data. The scholarly consensus a mere 60 years ago deemed the Shroud a medieval fraud; the present evidence allows a firm archaeological judgement for authenticity.
So according to your theory Christ should only have an X chromosome from Mary and no Y chromosome so he should be a female then with two X chromosomes .
Did he look and sound like a female to anyone in the Bible that you've read ?
Of course not he was male so you are wrong there .
@@gregorygant4242 Christ could not have a Y chromosome because He would have been tainted by the sin of a male seed. I made no reference to Him being a female.
All man made myth
At last an atheist who admits evolution is a man made myth! Bravo sir ! You must have felt silly believing everything came from nothing …… but most of all came to realise that Richard Dawkins just simply hates God …..
I'm Jesus... Send me money! Dad left me broke! LOL
It's not Yeshua aka Jesus. Yeshua is a black man. He has white wooley hair. This Turin is fake.
Oh yeah. Sure. Sure he was! And he was born and raised in a grass hut in sub-Saharan African, right??
This is blasphemy.
Really? How so? Care to share?
No one on earth knows whose image is on that cloth. The shroud contradicts the Gospel of John, which describes multiple cloths (including a separate "napkin" over the face), as well as "an hundred pound weight" of burial spices--not a trace of which appears on the cloth. No examples of the shroud linen's complex herringbone twill weave date from the first century, when burial cloths tended to be of plain weave in any case. The shroud has no known history prior to the mid-fourteenth century, when it turned up in the possession of a man who never explained how he had obtained the most holy relic in Christendom.
The earliest written record of the shroud is a bishop's report to Pope Clement VII, dated 1389, stating that it originated as part of a faith-healing scheme, with "pretended miracles" being staged to defraud credulous pilgrims.
@@map2hvn808 You seem to be a bit ignorant about the Shroud. Perhaps more than a bit. If you were not ignorant then you would know that the facecloth, or napkin, is today in Spain where it has been for the last 1400 years. It is known as the Sudarium of Oviedo. And we will never know how much of the spices were actually brought into the tomb and for any other purpose than to mask the stench of a decaying corpse. And those of us with even a tiny bit of intelligence know that the bishop's letter to the Pope was after a local artist, in a feeble attempt to make a name for himself, told him that it was he that painted the cloth. The bishop, being the gullible old fool that he was, took him at his word. Of course, they did not have the testing back then they do now, or they quickly would have discovered that there is not so much as a drop of paint, or any other manmade material on the image on the Shroud. The fact is that there are no pigments, paints, dyes or stains have been found on the fibrils. There are no chemical or physical methods known which can account for the totality of the image, nor can any combination of physical, chemical, biological or medical circumstances explain the image adequately. There currently is a $1,000,000 reward out there for anyone that can prove that the image on there was manmade. Why don't you go claim it if you think that you know more than everyone else on the planet does?
False. Not authentic.
Utter rubbish.
pwaaaaaaaa stop this bs hahaha wow such nonsense
It would seem to be nonsense to those of very low intelligence. Congratulations! 😂
You’re a lil late to the party, it’s a forgery.
Really? And what idiot told you that? And wow- for real? You are dumb enough to believe it as well? Sucks to be you.
Retest but take sample in blood stained section it is real
BS
Absolute bull.
HOW TO MAKE A MEDIEVAL SHROUD FORGERY - For Those Who Wonder How 'They' Did It
FORGER: Right guys... now, have we got the body of the dead guy ready?
ASSISTANTS: Yeah... yeah.. hang on...
FORGER: Was it much trouble finding a perfectly healthy six foot tall 30-something male who we were going to torture... beat up... and then crucify secretly and not get caught?
ASSISTANTS: Oh yeah! It was a breeze! We just got this guy who looks exactly like our ideas of Jesus' appearance straight out of the local prison. You know... there's heaps of them there like that... all ready just for us to pull off this forgery.
FORGER: Did you crucify the guy in exactly the same way as the First Century Romans did in the region of Judea?
ASSISTANTS: Yeah.. yeah.. we got it exactly right...
FORGER: ... including making sure that you put the nails through the wrists and NOT through the palms... and so go opposite to all our traditions about that…?
ASSISTANTS: Yeah, yeah... we put the nails through the wrists ... and, yes, we used a Roman flagrum just like you told us to....
FORGER: ... and did you make sure you got the cloth from 1st century Judea... pollen traces and all...?
ASSISTANTS: Yeah, we did that...
FORGER: Okay, we gotta hurry... we want the blood stains to show up exactly like the guy was wrapped in a Shroud shortly after his death... just like in the Book, okay...
ASSISTANTS: We're hurrying... but.. hang on... have you got the Special Image-Making Machine That No-one Else Around This Time Has Got ready....?
FORGER: Yeah... but we better get this right... we've only got so much special cloth, you know....
ASSISTANTS: Oh, by the way, we made sure we pressed the Face Cloth over the guy's head ... so we got that bit from the Book right, too...
FORGER: Okay... good... now, hold the Dead Guy there... put the arms over the crotch... okay, you can take the 1st Century Roman era coins from off his eyes now... and here we go... ready...
ASSISTANTS: Hang on! This image we're making... what's it gonna look like...? You sure you know what you're doing?
FORGER: Yeah, yeah.... It's gonna look like a crucified guy and we're gonna pass it off as the Shroud of Jesus! We're gonna do this to make people believe in the story... 'cos they need that...
ASSISTANTS: So... who's gonna see this again...?
FORGER: Everyone! We'll take it to the Pope or something. Yeah. That'll work. Who knows...? We might actually get paid a fortune for it. It'll help the Faith. We're doing something good.
ASSISTANTS (after the image has been made): Umm... boss...? We can't see it clearly. Did it work? It's all pale brown and ... blurry.... and I don't think anyone's gonna get fooled by this. And how come it's all.. you know... 'weird'..? It doesn't look right; the bits that should be light are dark... and the shadows are all in the wrong way....
FORGER: Oh no... I've got that right. The Special Image-Making Machine That No-one Else Around This Time Has Got does that... It makes things go back to front. Yeah. People will understand that. Makes it look all mysterious and magical and special and miracle-y. People are stupid; they'll believe anything.
ASSISTANTS: And why are we doing all this again...?
FORGER: To strengthen the Christian Faith and to make bucket-loads of money.
ASSISTANTS: You know what....? We can make HEAPS of these images!!! Just crank up that Machine Thingy again.... we can use any ol' cloth... no-one's gonna be that fussy to check. I mean, for crying out loud! Who do you know checks out the weave of centuries-old cloth from Ancient Judea... or looks for pollen....!?!
Yeah.
That's how it all happened, folks.
Simple as that.
And that's how you fake a Shroud of Turin.