Disgusting Argentinean President: We Came from Europe, Not Jungle Like Brazilians
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- --Argentinean President Alberto Fernandez says that, unlike the Mexicans, who came from Indians, and the Brazilians, who came from the jungle, Argentinians came from Europe in boats
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As a Brazilian, there is nothing shocking about this. I've gotten used to being called a "Monkey" online by spanish speaking south americans, especially Argentinians. Racism and prejudice in the latino community is more ingrained than a lot of americans think, its just hidden because everyone born south of the border is labeled as a "minority".
Take solace in the fact that Brazil is by far the dominant economy in South America, vastly over shadowing Argentina...not to mention its cultura e populacao bem agradavel.
there's a reason why brazil is not like usa, and is all because of race mixing, and brazilians themself know it
@@Sikyu-ye4ns "How to tell people you are politically iliterate without actually telling them"
@@felipeneves7260 you dont know about blanqueamiento, history political history of brazil, and you call others political illiterates. typical antiracist, all with the brain size of a walnut
@@felipeneves7260 you're a brazilian that doesnt know about BLANQUEAMIENTO.and you talk about political illiteracy. i see in all countries leftists project their lack of knowledge on others
The humblest argentinian:
We’d like to think that it is common knowledge that anti-blackness is a global phenomenon but unfortunately, the targeted white-washing of known history has prevented that. History has been white-washed so severely that often, the extent of racism across the world is masked. The country that has been most ‘successful’ in white-washing its population, history and culture is Argentina. Argentina is considered the whitest country in South America, which is odd considering that, like Brazil, they were colonized and subjected to Spanish colonists shipping in African slaves from the West Coast of the African continent. Currently, Argentina’s population of European ethnicity constitutes 97% of the population - this is a disturbing figure taking into account that by the late 1700s nearly 50 percent of the population in the interior of the country was black, and between 30 and 40 percent of the population of Buenos Aires was black or mulatto. When asked about Afro-Argentines, most Argentineans believe that Argentina never took part in the slave trade or that the Afro-Argentines left Argentina “naturally”. Both of these theories are wrong.
What actually happened to Black Argentineans is so disturbing and inhumane, it would be shocking that it wasn’t being taught in classrooms if the world wasn’t so inherently racist. It is widely reported that president of Argentina from 1868 to 1874, Domingo Faustino Sarmiento, undertook a ‘covert genocide’ that wiped out the Afro-Argentinean population to the point that by 1875, there were so little Black people left in Argentina that the government didn’t even bother registering African-descendants in the national census.
smartest argentine president
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I am Argentine, in our country throughout history politicians tried to eliminate the black part of the population, as well as many Latin American countries, except that Argentina was the only country that really did it, for example, in the war of the triple alliance, Uruguay, Argentina and even Brazil, put black people to fight on the front lines and in the most difficult battles. Many black people died in those battles, it was the bloody war in South America, so the Afro-descendant and African-American male population dropped too much, making black women with children, single or with families, start working in the houses of the bourgeoisie, white and rich men had affairs with these employees, or some even married for love, only when they began to have children they were obviously born mestizo, and little by little the country went from having a 30 to 40% black population to have only 1% today. In Argentina we are mostly white or MESTIZO due to history, the population never had real contact or representatives of the black population, so the racism created by status and politicians began to grow, since skin color was related with social and economic position. society never had to really meet people with other religions or appearances, until 1980-2022, where the country received many people from bolivia and asia, and as I said before the skin color had a lot to do with it, since black people were related to the lower class, even white or mestizo people were called black for being poor, what I'm getting at is that I associate Bolivian people with all this, poverty ect, and although Asians were also obviously discriminated against, they never They were called poor, and I think it is because of the color of their skin. As a white Argentine person, I recognize that there is a lot of internalized racism, I say this because if you ask an Argentine if he is racist, he will answer no, but when he sees a black or poor person, his head automatically relates these ideals. I think that as a country we have not had an obligation to have this conversation, because the problem was never that "big" since there was never really immigrant or native representation until now. We do not believe that politicians represent us, because there has never been a good one, but it is because of these types of people that we never move towards a more inclusive and united country
@@zoejazminfuentealbaarriaga6805 your country is most racist and homophobic because of its treatment towards indigenous community y'all are too proud of your European ancestry disgusting I support Argentina in football because of the goat Messi but after knowing the truth of mistreatment of indigenous argentinians till today I'm shocked
They say that when there is lightning, Argentinians think is god taking pictures of them.
Omg 😂
Right.!
I heard that from a mexican comedian a while back, for some reason it sounds 100x funnier in spanish.
It’s the Belgians who do that.
@@jltaco85 well... its a famous joke in Mexico. It was performed by Polo Polo.
Is he forgetting that Europeans also came out of forests and jungles at some point?
We all climbed down from trees at some point lol
It is theorized that everyone came from Africa.
Forgetting implies he ever knew this at all. For people who care so much about their history, racial-supremacists of all kinds tend to be completely ignorant of it.
Also Brazilians came from boats too...
@Mari Jayne And the Europeans were burning people alive at the stake and conducting other acts of degeneracy for their god, what’s your point?
Meanwhile, Europe is looking at Argentina like the co-worker you go to lunch with but wouldn't consider an actual friend
No we look at them as white brothers
@Mongoose 1980 because the many people you know are the majority of Europe. Right
@@kipras4699 half of argentinians are mixed
@@shturm9391 agreed.
@@shturm9391 sort of, outside of the USA someone is only considered mix if they have a significant or visually noticeable amount of another race or ethnicity, if someone is 80% white then they’re white in most places.
As an Argentinian, I can say that almost all people of our country hate this president, and hate what he said.
@@user-rl7mt4gh3o we are absolutely not xenophobic. But, like every country, we have people who are racist and discriminate inmigrants
@@AidenBlakyes you are
Así es
@@user-rl7mt4gh3o There are people who's xenophobic, specially against Bolivians and Paraguauans because they are the kind of people who inmigrantes for a poor work; but it doesn't represent the majority of us
@@user-rl7mt4gh3o yeah, because our president at that time was a fascist maniac (Gral. Perón), and had relations with nazis during WW2
Unfortunately, there are bigots everywhere.
Argentina has always wanted to be a protectorate of western civilization in south america, they want falklands just to rival fernando de noronha from brazil, while fernando de noronha is hot, paradisiacal and full of ufology folklore, falklands would be cold and white representing a nation of ice against nation of the sun but argentina is such a diplomatic dwarf that brazil represents as diplomatic bridge between argentina and england
As Portugal is an American colony in NATO, Brazil represents the only Lusitanians agent in geopolitical chess, USA wants Brazil to stop the Chinese advance in Latin America but we are not Western civilization to be an American puppet and we put Huawey in the 5g auction.
As Brazil is Mercosur's most powerful country, and Bolsonaro's anti-Chinese narrative has failed, it has now returned to its good old relationship with China, and without Brazil to stop Chinese technology in mercosur, this is shaping the scenario Samuel P. Huntington predicted at the end of the cold war: The West against the rest, Mercosur, Arab World, Russia and China, this is the new world order that will challenge the West and Israel
@@dicitencellovoyais7914 same in Mexico. Bunch of Mexicans hate their culture. Try so hard to assimilate and change their culture to a more Western bland culture.
I’m a racist bigot Nazi myself
HAHAHAHAHA
My enslaved African ancestors also came on boats.
Lol. My great great grandparents (Scot + Croat) lived in the bush / jungle (in NZ) only 100 years ago.
That fact will go over his head.
But not from Europe 😂😂😂
I have heard of this stereotype about argentinians before, but im surprised to see a politician actually say the stuff that he did.
Wellcome to argentina
All our politicians are assholes
Yes, all of them... every single one
At this point i have no idea if voting is worth
Its a lie, dont let our idiot president fool you
Hilarious
It's not a stereotype, it's truth
I am Argentine, in our country throughout history politicians tried to eliminate the black part of the population, as well as many Latin American countries, except that Argentina was the only country that really did it, for example, in the war of the triple alliance, Uruguay, Argentina and even Brazil, put black people to fight on the front lines and in the most difficult battles.
Many black people died in those battles, it was the bloody war in South America, so the Afro-descendant and African-American male population dropped too much, making black women with children, single or with families, start working in the houses of the bourgeoisie, white and rich men had affairs with these employees, or some even married for love, only when they began to have children they were obviously born mestizo, and little by little the country went from having a 30 to 40% black population to have only 1% today.
In Argentina we are mostly white or MESTIZO due to history, the population never had real contact or representatives of the black population, so the racism created by status and politicians began to grow, since skin color was related with social and economic position.
society never had to really meet people with other religions or appearances, until 1980-2022, where the country received many people from bolivia and asia, and as I said before the skin color had a lot to do with it, since black people were related to the lower class, even white or mestizo people were called black for being poor, what I'm getting at is that I associate Bolivian people with all this, poverty ect, and although Asians were also obviously discriminated against, they never They were called poor, and I think it is because of the color of their skin.
As a white Argentine person, I recognize that there is a lot of internalized racism, I say this because if you ask an Argentine if he is racist, he will answer no, but when he sees a black or poor person, his head automatically relates these ideals.
I think that as a country we have not had an obligation to have this conversation, because the problem was never that "big" since there was never really immigrant or native representation until now.
We do not believe that politicians represent us, because there has never been a good one, but it is because of these types of people that we never move towards a more inclusive and united country.
😳😳 I have no words. But latinos in general fell in love with their colonizers and love to disassociate themselves from Indian and Africans ancestors.
I am proud to be 60% native.
Kinfolk aren't always skinfolk.
Bear in mind that Argentina was a bit more like the US where much more racial cleansing than mixing compared to other Latin countries so the racial purity bullshit has been easier to sell. Although I'm glad to say that this fucking asshole doesn't represent most Argentinians, Fernandez is just the continuation of the Kirchners which were a continuation of Peron, 3 families which had 3 of the 5 most corrupt politicians in Argentinian history and THAT. IS. SAYING. A. LOT.
@@eleSDSU Ahhhhhh, that's what David was referring to but not wanting to get into.
That's because you think that every 'conolizer' decided to go back to Europe. You think everyone here is indigenous or black. You think your skin would remain the same colour after living a couple years in another environment.
South America is more exotic than you think. We got everything. You'll see indians, blacks, europeans, asians, arabs and much more. Even n#z! fugitives.
As Mexican Im proud to came from Mayans, and chinese 😅, and Irishs 😅, and Spaniards 🤣
The thing is that we Argentines also come from indigenous people, and people from all over. What this guy's said is absolutely racist and undiplomatic, which shows how stupid he and his advisors are, they can't even be on good terms with fellow Latin American nations.
@@segusantos there is no such thing as racism..
And Africans... Mexico is so quick to disregard their significant African ancestry.
I believe that there are 600k people from over 35 indigenous groups that call "Argentina" home..
Imagine just announcing that you were dropped on your head as a baby.
So, basically, not only is he putting down Mexicans and Brazilians as lesser people, but he's also claiming that his people wiped or displaced an entire indigenous people. Not sure if anyone picked up on that.
There were no significative amounts of indigenous peoples in what today is Argentina. 50k at most in a territory nearly as big as the 70% of the USA
White latin people ancestors is from europe
I mean my country did genocided some indigenous up in the north and in the south
Funnily enough, Brazil did far more genocide than the Argentinians. Exponentially far more.
@@leonardogeremia8769 It is, about 50% of Argentinians have some indigenous blood running through their veins, and even up to 9 prosent have som descendant of African ancestry as well, go and take a look at your own history before commenting bullshit!
If European saw Argentinas as equal to them, why did they attack you guys during the falklands war ????
exactly, you make me laugh out loud 🤣
Not only did Alberto completely erase the White, Mestizo, & Black populations of people from Mexico & Brazil, but he also erased the Mestizo, Indigenous, & Black populations of people in Argentina, who’ve gone through a horrible genocide. There’s so little of them left because of people who have a mentality like him.
he came from europe in the 16th century, and the 16th century mentality never left him xD
Jajaja buenisimo
Based
nope the biggest migrations to argentina where made in 1880 from italy and spain when argentina wast 2 times more rich that spain and italy and about to beat the usa
never left them*
The ignorance of this man. I hope he realizes that the reason why Brazilians speak Portuguese is because of Europeans.
They didn't all go to Argentina, as he'd have you believe. What a ridiculous speech.
@Jorja 7%. Learn more before speaking.
Yea much of brazils population is of european and african descent
Brazils is 47.7 percent white European coming from portugal spain Italy Germany!
about the whole "emerging from the jungle" thing -- you actually have to be pretty smart to survive in a jungle, let alone thrive. the jungle is not an easy place in which to live. all kinds of deadly plants, snakes, bugs, etc., not to mention animals like jaguars. and if you step on some thing sharp, like a thorn, for example, you have to know which plants can be used as an anti-septic.
so actually, any people or group of peoples who make a place like a jungle their home are any thing BUT primitive. it takes a lot of smarts, a lot of knowledge, a lot of ingenuity and a certain amount of sophistication to live in such a dangerous place. and not for nothing, but we all came from rough beginnings. there were no cities when the earth first formed, after all. some people are just so stupid.
You really gonna go on a tangent about defending against that claim? He's talking about being "civilised". Chill.
Agreed.! But this president's ignorance & arrogance are appalling.!
@@LucasTheBard It's a Russian bot. Nothing but a teenagers crusty sockpuppet.
@@LucasTheBard probably descended from people who arrived in the late 40’s of the last century.
And Europe had the black plague lol
I’ve been to Argentina. Love the country. The dictatorship that kidnapped children and broke up families is heartbreaking. This current president is pretty crazy.
@Mari Jayne
Thanks for the lesson on the obvious. Want a cookie?
@Mari Jayne is the president of Argentina elected by a direct popular vote, or was there some sort of electoral college that got in the way of that, like with Trump?
@Mari Jayne
Most argentines have a superiority complex.
It shows and the are proud of it.
@@slopez5136 it's usually a byproduct of Catholic ideological thought and immoral inquisitional aspects of Catholic religious and racist dogma.
@@razor1uk610 I wasn’t expecting the Spanish Inquisition
where does he think brazilians picked up Portuguese?
He's alluding to the fact that by and large Argentinians have very little African admixture, unlike Brazilians, Colombians and Venezuelans (Where triracial mix of Euro, Afro and Native make up about perhaps half the population). But he is wrong because There is Native American blood in the veins of many Argentinians. But of course his discourse reeks of sneering racial superiority.
@scott micheal walsh exactly bro.
The jungle
@@teelurizzo8542 well they are quite literally nazis
@@djeio Well many Nazis fled Germany after WWII and hid in Argentina, but that doesn't mean every citizen is a descendant of one.
The funny thing is Fernandez would be considered "brown" by many Argentinians.
As a Salvadoran living in the U.S., white Latin Americans (i.e. Argentinian-Americans) are sometimes even more problematic than white Americans.
I had a phone call (in Spanish) with an Argentinian once (for work) and the dude literally wouldn’t talk to me or treat me with respect over emails because I was Mexican-American (born in the US). He tried to ask for help in English with his horrible accent, so I asked him in English if mine was good enough or if he would still like someone else (in perfect, non-accented English). He complained to my European colleagues, calling me an “Indian pig” to which my company then banned him from doing business with us. This is how your employer should react to racists, not just in America or Europe, but all over the world.
yup they double down on racism out of self hate
@@albyx yea let those neanderthals know where the power actually lie...
@@albyx Tu historia suena muy falsa.
El número y porcentaje de argentinos viviendo en los EE.UU. es mínimo. Sería mucha casualidad que te hayas cruzado con argentinos.
as a Brazilian, thank you for your take on this disgusting comment.
As an Argentinian, I want you to know that this is not what the people of my country think about our brothers and sisters from Brazil. This guy is just a f*cking stupid ignorant.
@@juandimas3529 Don’t concern yourself with the bs “nOt aLL” argument here. Spare @Bee the bullshit. Just check your fellow men & women when you hear or see this disgusting mindset being spewed to innocent citizens of the world. Nobody gives a damn about “nOt aLL.” FIX IT ONE PERSON AT A TIME!
@@nomihagan see how many people actually agree with dimas view. Also we try to change it at our possibilties but always you have to make a stand that it doesnt represent the majority not even the 10 per cent if you based on how many people condems that phrase
@@juandimas3529 I agree with you president alberto fernandez is moron.
🇧🇷🤝🏻🇲🇽👍🏽
Oh c'mon like European people aren't garbage folk too if that is what is being described as?
exactly, Argentina president just wants approval of the Europe
This is so sad. Coming from Colombian I saw how much Americans and Europeans are venerated for no reason. Colombia is pretty much the same, there is an idea that white people are superior, when I was little in was told that I was too short, that I needed to be taller, I also experienced being segregated for coming from a poor family. I scaped Colombia and moved to America to find a place where you can at least have the haircut you want.
Carlos Lehder was right, we need a Nazi Columbian narco state. The government should use cocaine for fund Nazis across the globe
Well, the USA doesn’t= white. 57% of USA is European white, the rest are people that come from different background, but they are mainly Americans of Latino descent and Afro Americans (that have been in the USA since it’s “founding”.) White people in the USA come from Europe. Now, I think many countries in Latin America admire the USA simply because it’s a powerful country in terms of culture and economy.
Sorry to hear that, we in Europe are not like that. And I am from Serbia for Serbs even most Europeans are too short height wise, so it sucks
I'm Argentine and I'm so glad this was covered by David. It's unbelievable to see peronists and kirchnerists (his supporters) justify what he's said. Anyway, he says unfortunate statements like this one more often than you'd think, David could make a video on him every week.
But what he said is Historical accurate. The truth is the truth no matter your feelings! You’re own ignorance is telling😳🤦♀️
Even if we want to grant him all of his xenophobic points, SO WHAT IF I CAME FROM A JUNGLE
Like we proudly say in mexico "awebo puto!!!"
Does he not f'n know we all came from African cauldrons?
@Ryan Fowler Go to Nigeria you'll change your mind soon enough
@Ryan Fowler Why it looks better than Argentina.
Jungle people are more primitive
Wait, no Argentinian jokes? My 2cnts: How does an Argentinian commits suicide? It climbs its ego and jumps. (Some die of hunger in the way down) 🤪🤣
ok, that made me laugh
Good one lol 👍
That's incredibly Funny 😆
Right. A good one.!
That joke's not bad, almost as good as Woody Allen's "Yesterday Boris tried to commit suicide by inhaling next to an Armenian."
"We came on boats from Europe"
Yep.....some of them where U boats😀
Es muy gracioso.
@@carinajauregui9383art school is funny
I wonder how the spanish people there reacted to that statement.. I'm european but far from spanish so can't entirely relate.. But it just feels so pathetic... Imagine going to a country on another continent and they are desperately trying to convince you that are just like your continent.. shows some real insecurities imo.
If I were to visit an area the vikings settled 1000 years ago and the locals were still clinging to the identity of actually being danish I'd find that to be pretty silly.
If those people were speaking Danish and had most of its population of Scandinavian origin, the greatest chunk of which having arrived between 200 and 90 years ago from Denmark or neighbouring countries (in the case of Argentina: Italy, Spain, Germany, France and other), then you’d have a fair comparison
I visited Brazil and I was amazed when I found out that there are zones in Brazil where really old versions of Polish and German languages are spoken and those brazilians considered themselves being "Brazilians" and proud of their story, on the other hand some Argentinians claimed to be Germans just because they hided some of the Adolf's followers back in the day...
They support his party
This is pretty much in step with Argentina's racial history. Sarmiento was a low level Hitler!!
argentinian here, just i reminder, this guy doesnt represent us, his goverment is just a continuation of the Kirchner dinasty,one of the most corrupt families, which is also a continuation of peronism.
@cervellone If it's anything like America's elections, it's manufactured "consent" in the sense of, "Who will win? Corrupt guy #1, or SUPER-corrupt guy #2? Thanks to their colleagues and predecessors, you have *no* other viable options! 😀"
@cervellone the same as trump getting elected by you...
@@sluttyMapleSyrup exactly
Yes, he also said that we should appropiate aboriginal's kids and raising them as good europeans. From north europe, always from the north
This is hilarious. Fernandez having his Bolsonaro moment.
Bowl sar nar oh- dave rubin
Wrong party. Hes having his biden i don't want my kids growing up in a racial jungle moment.
He is just like Bolsonaro!
@@rainstriderstreamflower5645 hahahaha, no, he's worse, A LOT worse
@@Bluemoonredwine except it’s 2021
Spain created Argentina and Mexico. And Portugal created Brazil, simple as that
Respect you for speaking up. I'm a Northern California Hispanic born and raised. I been doing a lot of research on south America. I'm studying on Argentina. Keep up the good work
I’m Brazilian and What he said was very disgusting, but this reflects the racism of many Argentines against Brazil, I know some Argentines and they are decent and great people, but many Argentines call Brazilians “little monkeys” (macaquitos) this is disgusting, Argentines are also mixed of races and there is no denying that, but many Argentines think that they are Europeans and that they are superior to Brazilians. In Brazil, I can guarantee, Brazilians don't have this feeling and this spite against Argentines, they don't talk bad about Argentines, Brazilians are very calm and polite towards the Argentine people but Argentines like to create war with the Brazilian people. They even go to football games in Brazil and commit racism against Brazilians inside football stadiums. Many Argentines have even been arrested inside Brazil because of this behavior.
I agree with everything you said. Coming from family that illustrates all the stereotypes of Argentinians and watched the corruption you speak of, while being glad we here do not have that... until last president.
i can only Imagine how they treat the indigenous people of Argentina
Not nicely at all. The provinces ruled by Peronists are pretty much feudal states, and indigenous peoples are horribly mistreated.
Badly, really badly like in most of America.
Cleansing at xviii xix. Not well xx but constitution acknoledge preexistence and many rights. Xxi not well
De hecho no hay por así decirle
Depends on the province, in Buenos Aires i would say it is kinda bad, but in the north they're pretty much fine.
Let's not forget that Argentina was the country of choice for nazis who escaped after their loss in WWII.
Gurl they were JEWS
@@lourdesd945but Argentina also accepted nazis too, which made historians confused.
Well hes not wrong persay, about being european. But most of brasil also decends from Europe, and many africans. Brasil is the most diverse place on earth. And a large part of the population indeed classify as white by american standards. So many portuguese, french, italian and even german and polish Brazilians.
Ya they came over on boats - U-boats
Good one
And galleons... don't forget the Spanish Galleons.
@Mari Jayne So advanced they lost both world wars they caused.
@@1MarkKeller Lmao sure man we caused WW1, certainly not the Serbs and the English. It was us sticking to our Allies who caused it lmao.
And yeah we were so advanced it took the entire world to defeat us
@@reiappreciator957 Still defeated right? Still twice losers right? lol
I lived in Brasil. Right now, they are doing the same thing to themselves. They refuse to acknowledge that the vast majority have Black African heritage due to early interracial sex and due to later interracial marriages. Right now, the more white a person there appears, the more they claim to be all European, and the more they look down on others.
I heard that's been going on for a long time now.
Dude we are all mixed, humanity has been around for so long i hardly dobut someone is 100% white or black at this point racial purity is nazi bs, and i am argentinian and not everybody here thinks like that some idiots do, but honestly the mayority dosen´t, no matter our ancestry we are all argentinians and latinamericans.
Most Brazilians don't have African heritage. You are extremely wrong.
True, I watched a video detailing how in Brasil your socio-economic status plays a big role in this as well. Apparently the more money a black or mestizo person makes, the more white he or she becomes in the eyes of society. It's why alot of black Brazilian soccer stars are treated differently.
All this crap stems from the overwhelming influence of American propaganda and American exepcionalism from the 60s. You can see its effects on other cultures too like South Koreans. There's alot of people there that have a white complex going as far a surgery to appear more western. There's lots of videos on CZcams about this.
I think he forgot Argentina is a broken country and every time it needs help it asks for Brazil
But brazilians come here to study, so, what do we make of that?
47% Brazilian people are 💯 Eu:ropean descendants .
@@greenlaw6503 47% Brazilian people are 💯 Eu:ropean descendants .
As if there were no ppl in Argentina b4 Europeans arrived 😂
Maybe . Who cares if there were people living in Argentina or no . 😏
I hope I never have to hear the word "Europeanist" again. 😬
Why is it a bad term? I honestly never heard of it before.
He’s got the trump haircut going…very nice
Just needs a little orange color and he’s there.
argentinian here, just i reminder, this guy doesnt represent us, his goverment is just a continuation of the Kirchner dinasty,one of the most corrupt families, which is also a continuation of peronism.
@Mari Jayne get a life. I seen you comment pro trump propaganda in a few comments for this video. What a tool 🔧
@@felixsaenz4586 I can't speak for anyone but myself here, but I would never assume Fernandez speaks for every Argentinean any more than I would assume that Trump spoke for every American.
@@bradencampbell464 thank you.....
Q: what is the first thing the Argentinian do upon arriving in Paris.
A: he climbed the eifel tower to se what Paris looked like without him.
Argentina was my home for 4 and a half years. I miss it dearly, it and its ppl truly did snatch my heart, but this is just sad to hear.
This is why real Americans spell Republikkklans this way.
Oh David. Im trying to figure out how can some of your post have hundreds of thousands of views and then others a few thousands.? Im still looking. Regardless im one of your top fans. Thank You.
@@michellejeaneden2083
You know you're not responding to David or commenting directly on the video here, right?
@@michellejeaneden2083
Also, because some videos are about more American-relevant things and posted during the day, while this is probably not something his whole audience is interested in and posted at night (at least where David and I are from; we live in the same state).
I must admit, I am one of those who had associated Argentina with not only a colonial past but racist one and considered Argentina a haven for former Nazi war criminals. I have since relaxed that view in light of the many Argentine friends I have made especially via football. Nigeria and Argentina have a healthy (albeit one sided on results - I digress :) ) football rivalry especially in world cups so I have got to learn a lot about Argentina over the years. While this president's vitriol is disgusting, I will not project this view as representative of Argentines, so no change in my stride here
Wow... that was rude.
@@m.sofiaschroeder7319 what was rude?
As an argentinian, i can tell you that for lots of us, this president is a walking meme, and we are certain he didn't say it out of cruelty but out of his own stupidity.
Seriously, he couldn't be more pelotudo.
Vast majority of us Argentines totally despise our current president; he's only your average corrupt and inoperative politician came out from an average failed democracy, and a living meme who apparently is unable to say anything coherent. So if any folk ever say to any Argentine that Alberto Fernández is representative of our nation, he or she will immediately become an unpleasant citizen until the misunderstood is clarified...
What is wrong in retracing Spanish ancestry? Would there be any outrage if he traced it to say something like Yoruba. Ofcourse not.
Thanks for the coverage, David! very interesting, keep it up
Note: his quote of Octavio Paz is incorrect.
Nazientina
Confundió la cita de Octavio Paz con una mala canción de Lito Nebbia.
Argentina is far nicer than everywhere else in south america. So they aren’t wrong.
Don't need a Codetalker to decipher that speech. It spelled: R-A-C-I-S-M
Nobody: ...
Commenters: let the racism fly
I must be lucky to have not seen them...
Argentina is the all time champion of free loading. They always borrow boatloads of money and always default.
He said Argentinians came on boats, but they weren't Argentinians at the time.
Unfortunately as a Brazilian this is not Unexpected at all, actually i was not even a little bit surprised.
This is curious because as an argentinian i could not belive at first that he said this
Like i genually thought that this was an edit or something
This is why I support Brazil national team 😁
The Chad Argentina.
With all due respect, exactly what does Argentina have to brag about? I mean, yes, they have a beautiful country and the Tango dance is pretty cool, but historically, especially economically, they have been one of the worst basket cases in the world. Hardly a decade goes by without them defaulting on, or asking to renegotiate, their national debt. I think Brazil has a somewhat better economic reputation than Argentina. The Argentines might be more "European" than other Latin American countries but that is only because they wiped out their native population in a genocide even more thorough than ours. They may have all emigrated from Europe but unfortunately most came from the "wrong" parts of Europe. Well, I've insulted enough people for one CZcams comment, so I think I'll stop now.
The" wrong" part of europe?! Are you a fellow countryman? Haha. At least we became a very good example of what do you musnt do.
well for one thing, the white working class is significantly more left than that of the US, and isnt drawn into shitlib politics. In fact, they were able to build an alliance between the racist white working class and indigenous leaders of other countries which has not happened in the US ever. Thats one thing to be proud of.
@@lucanet4372 we dont have a society so racialized as the usa society
We were the first country in LATAM to legalize marriage equality? Also, "vo' cuanta copa tené'!?"
@@robinsuj Oooh, I can't let that one go by. I also have a German passport so that means I can claim Germany as my "Heimat." Last count, Germany had four World Cups!
Well, as a European I love them back. I love Argentina, but I also love Brazilians and Mexicans. Latin Americans are family from my point of view. 🇪🇺 ♥️ 🇦🇷 🇧🇷🇲🇽
This is why the rest of Latin America including Brazil laugh at Argentina, they're so obsessed with being German, Italian and Spanish. They like to shove it in our faces their dual citizenship or their European lineages, their relatives that live in Germany and send them money or they can visit. I don't hate Argentina but seriously, what do they think they obtain with that? I don't know I find it hilarious and cringe when they do that.
thanks gypsy
I personally believe that what makes New Zealand so strong is our treaty with our native people.
Although it has never really been honoured it did allow the population to blend.
The kiwi personality is well known and generally appreciated around the world despite us being a small country of 5 million.
But is there much wedlock between white folks and Maoris in NZ?
@@constantius4654 heaps, even hundreds of years ago. Most Maori know their lineage and can trace their tribal affiliations back for generations.
Personally I find it difficult at times to know which race people align with. We have many immigrants from Mediterranean countries so lots of our population has lovely tanned skin. It pays to not make assumptions about lineage here. :)
New Zealand is very bad they cheat indigenous people. Second the Argentine president did nothing offensive he is just tracing his European ancestry.
Just a joke, of course: the best business ever?; buy an Argentinian for what's worth and then sell him for what he thinks he's worth.
He is basically an argentine version of Donald Trump cause they both got prejudice mindset
I am Mexican, and I am proud to say I came from Indians; I don't care; I don't feel inferior to anybody. But F.... you for trying to use that as an insult.
If you’re truly proud of it then you shouldn’t feel insulted
I am from Europe and you should be proud, Europeans stole your land.
My great grandma was also indigenous and i am from argentina
@@WistuChichain Arabia here we call the Israelis by Europeans non-Semitic people and they feel insulted about it while they are trying to convince us that we both share the same grandfather “Abraham “. Just sh*t up and be humble dude and remember Jesus doesn’t have blue eyes
@@WistuChicharemember Arab people ruled parts of Spain for over than 7 centuries; maybe Argentines not European just Middle Easternes after all😂😂😂
Cubans feel the same way
ew... the context of this being said in a conference with Spain is just... repulsive
I live in New York and every Argentinian I've ever met do separate themselves as Europe they do not classify themselves as Latinos and they are bigoted .....
He is out, Javier Milei is the new president
I think I'm liking Argentina more and more....
You'll be disappointed with the reality.
@@billyhughes805 Why?
@@faustosar6151 Because he (the person I am replying to...) thinks it is an all white paradise where everyone is of European descent and of course it is not. Argentina is great by the way.
That jungle is Earth’s lungs, and humans are a smoker.
So climate change is planetary COPD/Emphysema, then
Brazil isn't earth's lungs.
@@shturm9391 The Amazon rainforest is one of Earth's lungs
Bro fix your sentence I don’t get it
I don't know why some people hold Europeans in such high regard. They started colonialism, pushed the slave trade and started two world wars just to name a few examples...
Because he rather be his white syphilis ridden grandfather than his dark jungle grandma
They also developed the majority of the worlds modern inventions and, plus, there is a reason European countries usually rank in the top countries worldwide, and countries occupied by others don’t. Make of that what you will.
@@karangtavana1283 🧢
@@karangtavana1283 wow you seriously neec to get some education in world history that is not Euro centric.
@cervellone well, it was the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand and his wife along with the surge of European nationalism that started the First World War. The point is this guy dissed his own region by saying that his have more in common with them than his own region. The Europeans don’t think that way. They are no better or worse than anyone else. My anger is not towards Europeans, it’s towards this idiot perpetuating the myth of European superiority.
Argentina has made the claim that the Falklands Islanders cannot legally have the right to self determination since they're settlers who replaced Argentinians, but the President making this statement that the Argentinians are Europeans would technically invalidate that argument if they're claiming they're not indigenous either.
No tan rápido. UNO de los argumentos argentinos (no el principal) es que los isleños son POBLACIÓN IMPLANTADA (okupas), pero existen muchos más. Y la Argentina no es un ETNO ESTADO como las ex colonias británicas (nunca existió desigualdad ante la ley en la Argentina por motivos de raza) Entonces un nativo americano o negro argentino SIEMPRE (SIEMPRE) tuvo los mismos derechos que un blanco. Aunque su porcentaje total sea menor al de blancos, su presencia hace caer el argumento es sólo un país de colonos.
As a Mexican, we make fun of Argentinians with this mindset.
They are racists bru
Los argentinos también papu, no pienses que no.
Mexican Indians like Aztecs and Mayas developed math further than Europeans, created maps with Lunar eclipses for hundreds of years into the future and managed to understand the concept of zero before Europeans copied it from Arabic math.
Anybody who knows Mexican history is aware than Aztecs defeated European invaders. It was Tlaxcaltecas who actually defeated the Aztec empire and the Europeans just took advantage of it. If he is trying to belittle Mexicans for being descendants of Indians, he should check his history books.
As a Brazilian I would like to say... We had practically the same kind of colonisation that they did, so if we came from the forests, so did them.
Also, Brazil is a huuuge country, with a huuuge forest, so I guess...he is jealous that he didn't get to come from a forest like us? 🤔
@Jorja I don't know where you got that information...
@@NankitaBR Enquanto o presidente da Argentina se preocupa em tentar ofender o Brasil o PIB Da Argentina diminui e a inflamação cresce mais um pouco
No. La respuesta es más simple. Hizo una mala cita de un escritor, Octavio Paz. Una torpeza.
Créeme, si algo no somos los argentinos es envidiosos.
@@palheiro5560 No busca ofender a Brasil. Cometió una torpeza. Eso fue todo.
A ustedes los conquistaron los portugueses
Más que después de todo antes apenas buenos aires su población era solo de 40.000 cuando de volvió libre
Y gracias a las inmigrantes europeos
Pasamos de 40.000 a 1.000.000
Y de ahí subiendo de puro inmigrantes europeos
Meanwhile Real Europeans: You are NOT EUROPEANS!
I'm a Bolivian in San Francisco, I enjoy your channel gaucho.
And this is 1 of the Many, Many reasons why the Falkland Islanders made it clear why they will always remain British.
La principal razón es que son británicos antes que isleños. Ellos no son nativos de las islas, sino población implantada.
The corruption in Argentina isn't just governmental it's societal. It won't change anytime soon unless the latter part of it is addressed. VisualPolitik has done some good videos on it.
Unfortunately, there are always people who will do or say horrible things. One thing I took away from Trump as president of the US is that a leader may be in charge of a country, but that doesn't mean they represent the people of that country.
All of this is so true!! Preach!! The hate for each other is insane I've have a lot of my friends talk about other groups in the Latin community in front of me. It makes me extremely uncomfortable because I know how it feels to be picked apart and stereotyped by your own race and other races that think they are better than you because you are just "Regular Black "and not a true African. SMH. I'm so glad that you are talking about this because this does not get discussed often. Please do more! This is a subject matter that a lot of people have no clue about.
You are Black, Shut up
@@kentuckyfriededgar wow. Try again. COMMENT WAS DELETED!!
Sabes que te cagaste cuando BOLSONARO te tilda de racista.
I'll cry for you Argentina!!!!
¿Quién te conoce? Fantasma Xddd
I have heard that Argentina cosider itself as European and I was surprised. Good that David has pointed this out.
Little late to the game here but the worst part is that Fernandez actually misquotes Mexican poet Octavio Paz. The original line was: "Mexicans are descended from the Aztecs, the Peruvians from the Incas, and the Argentines...from the boats". It was a stab at our perceived superiority when in fact we have no ties to the land other than being immigrants. It's amazing how words of self-reflection are bastardized to one's own end. I weep for my country.
I wonder how Fernández would react to the notion that "by the time of the Cid there was little blood difference between the Muslim of the south and the Christian of the north." This is according to Glenroy Emmons and seconded by Menéndez Pidal, in reference to the mixed ethnicity of Spain just prior to the arrival of Almorávides in the eleventh century.
Shhhhhhhhhhhh, they HATE hearing about that. Plus, they counter it with, "But they weren't "Africans" (meaning Black Africans) those were Arabs. So if anything we have Arab admixture."
And then there were the Basques isolated in the mountains by both language and terrain. Which kept them isolated until after all Muslims left, but then that isolation led to Franco's bombing of Gernika and other issues like the ETA which resulted from cultural and linguistic isolation. In other words, a lot of Spain's history can be linked to Moors or in the Basque case, lack of Moorish cultural influence.
David, es la impresion que tengo de algunos Argentinos que he conocido a lo que refirio el Presidente de Argentina, claro que el lo dijo en voz alto muchos que no se atreverán decirlo. Podria decir que de cada de 1 en 10 Argentino tienen ese pensamiento. Claro que no todos son asi, y admiro y es la primera vez que conozco un Argentino como tu que tiene valores, humildad, e humanidad, y principios, admiro eso de ti, y a una amiga de Argentina que fue muy buena conmigo durante en los años del colegio.
Los argentinos no tenemos un pensamiento discriminatorio en general. La frase original era del estilo "los mexicanos provienen de los aztecas, los peruanos de los incas, pero los argentinos provinenen de los barcos". Esta frase fue dicha, no por un argentino, sino por un mexicano de nombre Octavio Paz. Lo único que esa frase representa es el origen de la constitución demográfica de Argentina, siendo que más del 90% tiene ascendencia en inmigrantes que vinieron tras la independencia, lo que es diferente al caso de la mayoría de países latinos. Esta historia caracteriza cultural y demográficamente al país, siendo parte de su IDENTIDAD, y como CUALQUIERA que valore su identidad, los argentinos somos conscientes de nuestro trasfondo y lo valoramos. Eso NO implica un sentimiento de superioridad ni discriminación de ningún tipo, y nuestro "presidente" solo es demasiado incompetente como para citar esa frase como era (la mayoría de argentinos detestamos a Alberto Fernández por ésta razón y otras mucho peores).
Funny how the Portuguese language originated from the Brazilian jungle...I always thought it came from Portugal -- you know, that EUROPEAN country.
They came from Europe on boats, and a few came on submarines in the 1940's!
Once I visited Arjentina on a bicycle and they thought I came from the future
Oh my.. I'm a Brazilian living in Canada, have been to Argentina, the U.S., Mexico Europe, Asia, multiple times, love all these places and people. Anyone intelligent enough should be able to realize that despite minor differences such as language and culture we are all nothing but humans for God sake, nothing special about that, it's simple logic. We should all celebrate diversity not discriminate it. But I guess we are light years from that. Anyways thanks again David.
We are united by Catholicism and the holy culture it brings AND we are divided by Darwinism and the destructive atheist culture it brings.
We are either monkeys (some more evolved than others), OR we are humans made in the image of God. You can only choose one.
I couldn't find his quote, but the nicest quote from Octavio Paz I found was "The world is born when two people kiss". He did say Mexicans are obsessed with death, and they are; but its not a condemnation of them as a nation.
Brazil and Mexico have stronger economies and are more advanced. Argentina has a stagnant economy that has not grown in the past thirty years.
So crazy that people like this person are in charge. Why?
Why not? Look at your own politicians
Theyre all like him
And now it becomes clear why the indigenous population of Argentina are living in squalor. And unemployment in Argentina is outrageous. The president shouldn’t be allowed anywhere without someone bringing up the unemployment issue.
Alberto Fernandez is basically Argentina’s version of Trump .
How can it be a stereotype when it's so prevalent? Many Argentinians regard themselves as the Europeans of Latin America and Buenos Aires the Paris of South America. Even Pakman seems very apologetic in his ardent claim that it is indeed a stereotype having, no doubt, experienced the opposite many times.
You said: STEREOTYPE...belive in that is STUPID.
Nazi from Auschwitz, Dr. Mengele (Doctor Evil) arrived in Argentina in 1949. He did leave later though. He would love the Argentinean President for saying that "we came from Europe".
Is this guy saying that there were no Native Americans, in what became Argentina, before the Europeans arrived?
I'm British, but my father was born in Argentina, in the early part of the 20th Century to an English Father and an Italian mother, but still has ties to his relatives out there, some of whom "mixed" with the first peoples.
So far as I can see that's the story of much of Central and South America.
Fernández confundió una cita literaria, con la de una mala canción. En cuanto a lo que relatás es así, a la Argentina llegó mucha gente de Europa, algunos se casaron con otros europeos, otros con nativos y negros (por eso casi no hay negros en la Argentina ya que las chicas negras se casaron con hombres blancos)
Is there racism in everyday life in Argentina?
Yes Argentinians look down upon at Latin Americans for example peruvians Bolivians other Latin Americans
Argentinia have the eurocentrism view
@@liqiz1755 where are you from?
@@liqiz1755 That's sad, so many people around the World support Argentina football team. Guess they are ignorant about this racism.
If they know, they would not support.
Recently Argentina got a new president don't know if he's a racist puto grande like Alberto Fernandez.
Also the Puerto Ricans, Brazillians are the most GORGEOUS looking South Americans