Inégalables et inégalés à ce jour dans l'histoire du patinage. Ils représentent la grâce, l'élégance, une technique bien à eux pour nous éblouir. Leur patinage est au delà des mots oui ! Ce sont de très belles personnes.
February 8, 2022. Magnifique est la Danse sur Glace de Marina et Gwendal! I was watching clips from the Olympics and this Ice Dance by Gwendal and Marina came up in my list of topics. It's so wonderful to watch this again after many years. I met them back stage in person in 2002, 2005 and 2006. I wrote to them in 1998 after they won the Olympic Bronze. They both wrote back. Gwendal wrote many times over the years up to several years ago. There is no one who matches them in their unique style and passion. I miss seeing their Ice Dancing. From the USA 🇺🇸
Абсолютный полет! Скорость ошеломляющая, поддержки удивительные. Я не понимаю что говорят комментаторы, но они просто остановиться не могут! Это восхитительно! А улыбка Марины заслуживает отдельный приз!
🧜🏼♀️ Ce n’est pas du chauvinisme, mais je les trouve parfaits 👍 ils sont beaux, talentueux, émouvants et artistiquement largement au dessus du niveau des autres concurrents. Je les adore 😍 . Gwendal a très bien réussi sa reconversion professionnelle, il est très brillant et pas que sur la glace. Pour moi le plus couple de danse sur glace ! 🇫🇷🧜🏼♀️
some judges give them 5.6 and 5.7 in technical merit and 5.8 5.9 to the italians whereas the programm of the french is clearly superior and more difficult than the italian's one.
There were none before them and none since than can compare. I miss this kind of competition in ice dancing. I can forgive a few slips in footing given the fact that Marina and Gwendal flew across the ice with great speed and power. They were perfectly matched in strength and unison. Their programs were always unique, beautiful to watch, technically difficult and told a story that built up to the triumphant ending throughout the dance. I don't think they were ever given the scores they deserved for technical merit. By comparison, ice dancing today is kind of boring to watch.
I loved the Ice Dancing of Marina and Gwendal and miss them very much. They had a unique style and much passion. Posted February 9, 2022. From the USA 🇺🇸
They were scandalously robbed of a world title here. They had been robbed of another world title in 1999. The judging was dreadful, and very biased. Ice dance judging hit rock bottom (corruption.) But Marina and Gwendal´s reputation remained unscathed. Audiences and fans´ hearts warmed even more towards them. In 2002 they became Olympic champions.They were and are considered by many the god and godess of ice dance. And They remain the BEST ice dancers ever till today.
Музыка Бетховена всегда воспринималась как возвышенная, утонченная. Всегда в сердце живет мечта о гармонии музыки, движений, мимики, жестов, выражении лица, костюмов. Создание единого, целостного образа - это большая удача тренерского штаба. Музыка ведет за собой и рождает неповторимый образ. И зрители получают огромное эстетическое наслаждение. Возвыситься душой до музыки - это прекрасно. Это прекрасный путь в прекрасном виде спорта.
The only team that IMO came close to them were Denkova & Staviski. But they were all the way down in 10th place here if you can believe it. The Bulgarians skated one of the most original free dances that I've ever seen. The only negative thing I can say about it was that it didn't have the content of A&P's FD.
The Italians had a very sharp and well rehearsed performance and it looks as though the judges mistook that for content and difficulty (for whatever reason - I can't explain it).
I know, it was ridiculous! The judges didn't know what was technically difficult and good quality skating, I'd give the Frunch 5.8 and 5.9 for Technical merit and, 5.9 for presentation
Most ridiculous result in the history of ice dance, period. Even a sloppy Gwendal is still ten times better (at least) than Margaglio. This free dance may not have been their best, but it is an insult to even compare this with the Italians' free dance. And they had changed their original dance, which was a bit "meh" at the Europeans, but which was also better than the Italians' at the Worlds. Fusar-Poli/Margaglio did not even belong on the podium, Lobacheva/:Averbukh or Drobiazko/Vanagas were also far better skaters than them.
Oui c'est vrai Marina est radieuse sur la glace elle rayonne ils sont beaux à voir beaucoup d émotions vous nous avez fait rêver merci beaucoup 😘😘😀👍⛸️🔥🔥🔥💞💞💜🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵
Seriously, I've just re-watched the Italians' free dance... Margaglio's steps, skating-wise, are almost beginner level. I'm not exaggerating. Take away the lifts and the spins (which are also rather poorly done), there's almost nothing. It's all crossovers, standing on two feet, skating or turning on flat edges (you can't even tell the edge most of the time). Even his twizzles are bad, they're not really twizzles because they're not smooth enough, they're more like 3-turns. And everything is sloppily done. Look at Gwendal by comparison. First, he has far more difficult steps. The holds are also far more complex and difficult for him to manage. But most of all, he has deep edges, real knee action, power, speed.. That's what makes the difference between a poor skater and a great one.
Oh yes at 100%. Fusar-Poli/Margaglio le couple le plus surcoté de l'histoire du patinage. Quand je pense qu'ils ont osé pleurer aux JO 2002 de ne pas avoir gagné. Margaglio avait à peine un nivau de junior, je partage votre avi il ne danse pas il marche. Fusar-Poli était plutôt bonne mais bien loin du niveau de Marina. Un bon gros scandal oui.
February 9, 2022 Maritzio's skating ability was far inferior to that of Gwendal. While watching the Figure Skating events this Olympic Games, I am thinking of Gwendal and Marina and missing seeing their unique, creative, passionate and expressive Ice Dancing.
Браво. Браво. Браво. Спасибо большое вам за прекрасное видео и Танцы Шедевр. Всего самого наилучшего вам в жизни Успехов во всем Счастья Любви Радости вам всего доброго и хорошего в жизни.
All I can think is corruption judging by corrupted judges and extreme favouritism for FP/M. Imo this is the biggest robbery in Ice dancing history on par with the 2002 olympics when FP/M won bronze with mistake and a fall instead of the Lithuanian couple.
Honestly Anissina and Peizerat not winning this Worlds while Fusar poli and Margaglio getting the gold was a huge freaking joke! This was the most ridiculous Ice dance result in Ice dance history dare I say in whole of Ice skating history this level of robbery was next on par with Fusar poli and Margalio winning the Bronze instead of the Lithuanians couple in 2002 Olympic even with mistakes and fall and Sotnikova winning 2014 Olympics instead of Yuna. Honestly Barb was actually a pretty great skater but Margaglio was the opposite of it lol as a person he's a very likeable guy but his skating skill was really not at the level of Barb or even other top male ice dance like Peizerat, Kraatz, Vanagas.
I thought Anissina/Peizerat's Beethoven routine did not quite work as well as their other FDs artistically speaking. Not a fan of the musical arrangements, or of the theme, it looks a bit contrived. But technically... It was extremely complex, that's probably why they fell at the Europeans. To look at Fusar-Poli/Margaglio and say they are even close technically, is to ignore the whole "difficulty" element. Of course the Italians did not fall, look at Maurizio, he does almost nothing (I mean, compared to the 10 top skaters of the category, of course... though sometimes I wonder if I couldn't skate better than Margaglio on certain portions of his routine!) Maurizio is a nice guy but compared to his competitors, he really was a terrible skater.
Honestly looking at Anissina/Peizerat Beethoven FD routine of this Worlds now it has become one of my favourite FD routine from them. I didn't like their other versions of this FD in other competitions but in this Worlds I thought this FD was really complex with more difficulty, they had great speed and power and it was passionate, romantic and emotional and their choreography and movements flowed better with the music too and obviously they looked great and the outfits were great too if you compare to what other Ice dance teams were doing and wearing lol.
в том году тогдашний президент ISU видимо очень хотел видеть победителями своих соотечественников (ведь тогда считалось что кто победил на чемпионате мира в предолимпийском году делал очень сильную заявку на олимпийское золото)
@@MsRumex Хорошо, что на Олимпиаде справедливость восторжествовала, не заслуживали там итальянцы золото, особенно Маурицио, который катался с трудом ноги отрывая от льда
@@elnaras7426 да, олимпиада все расставила по местам. Как говорит тут немецкий коментатор, по большому счету не так важно сколько раз ты становился чемпионом мира, если ты стал олимпийским чемпионом. p.s. ну и конечно хорошо, что Марина и Гвендаль относились к тем спортсменам, кто после неудач с удвоенной силой готовился к следующему сезону (у них оба предолимпийские сезоны были не очень в плане результатов). Зато к обеим олимпиадам они подготовились очень хорошо.
Месяцем ранее в Братиславе на чемпионате Европы Марина упала и оценка за технику 5.2 задвинула их на 2 место. Судьи не прощают ошибок. И в Ванкувере в марте 2001 г даже новые костюмы не помогли им повторить успех Ниццы. Это серебро. Ведь если бы Анжелика Крылова в 2000 г не заболела,то никогда бы Марина и Гвендаль не стали бы чемпионами Игр 2002 г.
@@user-kf6zg1pq3uвы верите в то что травма послужила причиной ухода Крыловой? Я нет. К/О не победили бы в 2000. Их Кармина Бурана не шла ни в какое сравнение с карминой бураной Анисиной и Пейзера. Тем более после того, как еле-еле со скандалами К/О побеждали в 1999.
It looked like the judges knew what would happen before the event, there was no movement at all through the ENTIRE Eevent, that should say something. I agree, this team was far superior to the Italians in difficulty and quality
@@jbuda4263 in 1998 Bourne and Kraatz did not have the most difficult OD, they did not have the most challenging FD and they made a mistakes in CD - so, how did they felt?
@@jbuda4263 B&K programs in 1998 were void of content and they made multiple errors in the compulsories. They should have finished lower than fourth in Nagano and lower than 3rd at Worlds that year.
@@nilivier I also thought they should have won in 1998 as well since Grishuk & Platov did not skate there. A&P were quite a bit better than Krylova & Ovsiannikov in both the OD and FD that season. I also had A&P ahead of K&O at the 1996 and 1997 Worlds as well.
Посмотрела в Википедии он всё ещё холост,48 лет,но есть 2 дочери, Марина живёт в Лионе,тренер,а Джигурда в её квартире в Москве,продала бы уж,да не сможет,отец детей, сколько мы люди в жизни выносим,всех жаль,
A/P were sloppy at times in this dance but I do feel they won this portion of the competition by one judge, however FP/M had the best original dance of any team in the competition. It wasn't a runaway victory for FP/M but I do think it was a fair one.
No it wasn't. Margaglio is an horrible skater, really. And even compare FP/M with Gwendal and Marina is ridiculous. Two deferent galaxys. Saying that the italians had the best original dance of that competition is hilarious.
Какая изумительная пара. Первый раз их увидела и просто в восхищении от их прокатов. Браво.
Inégalables et inégalés à ce jour dans l'histoire du patinage.
Ils représentent la grâce, l'élégance, une technique bien à eux pour nous éblouir.
Leur patinage est au delà des mots oui !
Ce sont de très belles personnes.
Wunderschön. Auch nach so vielen Jahren
February 8, 2022. Magnifique est la Danse sur Glace de Marina et Gwendal! I was watching clips from the Olympics and this Ice Dance by Gwendal and Marina came up in my list of topics. It's so wonderful to watch this again after many years. I met them back stage in person in 2002, 2005 and 2006. I wrote to them in 1998 after they won the Olympic Bronze. They both wrote back. Gwendal wrote many times over the years up to several years ago. There is no one who matches them in their unique style and passion. I miss seeing their Ice Dancing.
From the USA 🇺🇸
👍😘❤
В те годы пропустила выступления фигуристов, теперь пересматриваю и восхищаюсь этой парой. Класс!!!
Абсолютный полет! Скорость ошеломляющая, поддержки удивительные. Я не понимаю что говорят комментаторы, но они просто остановиться не могут! Это восхитительно! А улыбка Марины заслуживает отдельный приз!
Bravo, je les trouve très, très fort, plus que les Champions Olympiques 2022, je les apprécie énormément !!
Marina est si belle 🥰😀 rayonnante sur la glace avec Gwendal ils sont parfaits magnifique couple bravo et merci 🇨🇵🇨🇵🥇🥇🥇🇨🇵🔥🐓⛸️💓💓💙💜💪😍🤩❤️🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵👍
Полный восторг через 20 лет. Спасибо
🧜🏼♀️ Ce n’est pas du chauvinisme, mais je les trouve parfaits 👍 ils sont beaux, talentueux, émouvants et artistiquement largement au dessus du niveau des autres concurrents. Je les adore 😍 . Gwendal a très bien réussi sa reconversion professionnelle, il est très brillant et pas que sur la glace. Pour moi le plus couple de danse sur glace ! 🇫🇷🧜🏼♀️
Preferații mei!! 🥰🥰🥰
My favourite couple in ice skating!!
Как же ВЫ бесподобно органичны во всех проявлениях, движениях на льду.
ВАС НЕВОЗМОЖНО ПЕРЕХВАЛИТЬ, ВЫ ВСЕГДА СУПЕР❣👍
БРАВО❣👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Their unison is always so beautiful!
Figure skating, especially Ice dance must be so dramatic,
emotional, and sexy.
some judges give them 5.6 and 5.7 in technical merit and 5.8 5.9 to the italians whereas the programm of the french is clearly superior and more difficult than the italian's one.
There were none before them and none since than can compare. I miss this kind of competition in ice dancing. I can forgive a few slips in footing given the fact that Marina and Gwendal flew across the ice with great speed and power. They were perfectly matched in strength and unison. Their programs were always unique, beautiful to watch, technically difficult and told a story that built up to the triumphant ending throughout the dance. I don't think they were ever given the scores they deserved for technical merit. By comparison, ice dancing today is kind of boring to watch.
Exactly!
I loved the Ice Dancing of Marina and Gwendal and miss them very much. They had a unique style and much passion. Posted February 9, 2022.
From the USA 🇺🇸
The best forever!!
Прекрасны, незабываемая пара! Люблю их!
Какое чудо! Счастье видеть их выступления!
They were scandalously robbed of a world title here.
They had been robbed of another world title in 1999.
The judging was dreadful, and very biased. Ice dance judging hit rock bottom (corruption.)
But Marina and Gwendal´s reputation remained unscathed.
Audiences and fans´ hearts warmed even more towards them.
In 2002 they became Olympic champions.They were and are considered by many the god and godess of ice dance.
And They remain the BEST ice dancers ever till today.
Yeah sure they won gold with the help of monster.
Музыка Бетховена всегда воспринималась как возвышенная, утонченная. Всегда в сердце живет мечта о гармонии музыки, движений, мимики, жестов, выражении лица, костюмов. Создание единого, целостного образа - это большая удача тренерского штаба. Музыка ведет за собой и рождает неповторимый образ. И зрители получают огромное эстетическое наслаждение.
Возвыситься душой до музыки - это прекрасно.
Это прекрасный путь в прекрасном виде спорта.
wonderful, as always!!
5.9
5.9
First place and Gold.
End of all discussions.
Des patineurs d'exception...
this was by far the best programm of this night.
The only team that IMO came close to them were Denkova & Staviski. But they were all the way down in 10th place here if you can believe it. The Bulgarians skated one of the most original free dances that I've ever seen. The only negative thing I can say about it was that it didn't have the content of A&P's FD.
Восхитительно!Храни их Боже.
Очень красивый танец ! Супер скоростное выступление...
Шикарно-то как!
Шикарно! Они лучшие!
Alisa Frovova, Gvehdal Pezerat, супер танец на льду！👍🔥
Браво, браво, браво！
Красотка Alisa Frolova.
The Italians had a very sharp and well rehearsed performance and it looks as though the judges mistook that for content and difficulty (for whatever reason - I can't explain it).
Best ever! Champions forever,
The judging was ridiculous and biased.
I know, it was ridiculous! The judges didn't know what was technically difficult and good quality skating, I'd give the Frunch 5.8 and 5.9 for Technical merit and, 5.9 for presentation
Most ridiculous result in the history of ice dance, period. Even a sloppy Gwendal is still ten times better (at least) than Margaglio. This free dance may not have been their best, but it is an insult to even compare this with the Italians' free dance. And they had changed their original dance, which was a bit "meh" at the Europeans, but which was also better than the Italians' at the Worlds. Fusar-Poli/Margaglio did not even belong on the podium, Lobacheva/:Averbukh or Drobiazko/Vanagas were also far better skaters than them.
Какая же Марина солнечная! Гибкая, быстрая, кажется балерина на льду!
но и Гвендаль очень даже под стать ей. Завораживают, при чем оба (что очень очень редко бывает в фигурном катании)
Oui c'est vrai Marina est radieuse sur la glace elle rayonne ils sont beaux à voir beaucoup d émotions vous nous avez fait rêver merci beaucoup 😘😘😀👍⛸️🔥🔥🔥💞💞💜🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵
кто такая украинка марина анисина? И почему украинка марина анисина выдает себя за фигуристку мать 2 детей Frolova Alisa?😡😡😡😡😡
Как болит сердце сразу ,за эту девочку
Seriously, I've just re-watched the Italians' free dance... Margaglio's steps, skating-wise, are almost beginner level. I'm not exaggerating. Take away the lifts and the spins (which are also rather poorly done), there's almost nothing. It's all crossovers, standing on two feet, skating or turning on flat edges (you can't even tell the edge most of the time). Even his twizzles are bad, they're not really twizzles because they're not smooth enough, they're more like 3-turns. And everything is sloppily done.
Look at Gwendal by comparison. First, he has far more difficult steps. The holds are also far more complex and difficult for him to manage. But most of all, he has deep edges, real knee action, power, speed.. That's what makes the difference between a poor skater and a great one.
Oh yes at 100%.
Fusar-Poli/Margaglio le couple le plus surcoté de l'histoire du patinage. Quand je pense qu'ils ont osé pleurer aux JO 2002 de ne pas avoir gagné. Margaglio avait à peine un nivau de junior, je partage votre avi il ne danse pas il marche. Fusar-Poli était plutôt bonne mais bien loin du niveau de Marina. Un bon gros scandal oui.
February 9, 2022
Maritzio's skating ability was far inferior to that of Gwendal. While watching the Figure Skating events this Olympic Games, I am thinking of Gwendal and Marina and missing seeing their unique, creative, passionate and expressive Ice Dancing.
Лучшие!!!!
son únicos
Смотрю на эту Марину и теперешнюю в Википедии,как нас меняют годы,ничего не остаётся от молодости,только душа ,думаю, становится другой,истрадавшись
Браво. Браво. Браво. Спасибо большое вам за прекрасное видео и Танцы Шедевр. Всего самого наилучшего вам в жизни Успехов во всем Счастья Любви Радости вам всего доброго и хорошего в жизни.
Браво! Они великолепны!
could everyone explain me how it s possible that the italians could beat them??!!! IMPOSSIBLE!!! poor referees once again!
All I can think is corruption judging by corrupted judges and extreme favouritism for FP/M. Imo this is the biggest robbery in Ice dancing history on par with the 2002 olympics when FP/M won bronze with mistake and a fall instead of the Lithuanian couple.
bravo je les adore bisous
Скорость запредельная
Как же они хорошо вплетали поддержки в канву програм (например на 2:20-2:30)
Honestly Anissina and Peizerat not winning this Worlds while Fusar poli and Margaglio getting the gold was a huge freaking joke! This was the most ridiculous Ice dance result in Ice dance history dare I say in whole of Ice skating history this level of robbery was next on par with Fusar poli and Margalio winning the Bronze instead of the Lithuanians couple in 2002 Olympic even with mistakes and fall and Sotnikova winning 2014 Olympics instead of Yuna. Honestly Barb was actually a pretty great skater but Margaglio was the opposite of it lol as a person he's a very likeable guy but his skating skill was really not at the level of Barb or even other top male ice dance like Peizerat, Kraatz, Vanagas.
I thought Anissina/Peizerat's Beethoven routine did not quite work as well as their other FDs artistically speaking. Not a fan of the musical arrangements, or of the theme, it looks a bit contrived. But technically... It was extremely complex, that's probably why they fell at the Europeans. To look at Fusar-Poli/Margaglio and say they are even close technically, is to ignore the whole "difficulty" element. Of course the Italians did not fall, look at Maurizio, he does almost nothing (I mean, compared to the 10 top skaters of the category, of course... though sometimes I wonder if I couldn't skate better than Margaglio on certain portions of his routine!) Maurizio is a nice guy but compared to his competitors, he really was a terrible skater.
Honestly looking at Anissina/Peizerat Beethoven FD routine of this Worlds now it has become one of my favourite FD routine from them. I didn't like their other versions of this FD in other competitions but in this Worlds I thought this FD was really complex with more difficulty, they had great speed and power and it was passionate, romantic and emotional and their choreography and movements flowed better with the music too and obviously they looked great and the outfits were great too if you compare to what other Ice dance teams were doing and wearing lol.
@@alien8855 yes, they changed quite a lot in this FD throughout the season and this last version was great.
Какие они молодцы, скорость просто запредельная. Почему они здесь не победили? Были же лучше итальянцев!
в том году тогдашний президент ISU видимо очень хотел видеть победителями своих соотечественников (ведь тогда считалось что кто победил на чемпионате мира в предолимпийском году делал очень сильную заявку на олимпийское золото)
@@MsRumex Хорошо, что на Олимпиаде справедливость восторжествовала, не заслуживали там итальянцы золото, особенно Маурицио, который катался с трудом ноги отрывая от льда
@@elnaras7426 да, олимпиада все расставила по местам. Как говорит тут немецкий коментатор, по большому счету не так важно сколько раз ты становился чемпионом мира, если ты стал олимпийским чемпионом.
p.s. ну и конечно хорошо, что Марина и Гвендаль относились к тем спортсменам, кто после неудач с удвоенной силой готовился к следующему сезону (у них оба предолимпийские сезоны были не очень в плане результатов). Зато к обеим олимпиадам они подготовились очень хорошо.
Месяцем ранее в Братиславе на чемпионате Европы Марина упала и оценка за технику 5.2 задвинула их на 2 место.
Судьи не прощают ошибок.
И в Ванкувере в марте 2001 г даже новые костюмы не помогли им повторить успех Ниццы.
Это серебро.
Ведь если бы Анжелика Крылова в 2000 г не заболела,то никогда бы Марина и Гвендаль не стали бы чемпионами Игр 2002 г.
@@user-kf6zg1pq3uвы верите в то что травма послужила причиной ухода Крыловой? Я нет. К/О не победили бы в 2000. Их Кармина Бурана не шла ни в какое сравнение с карминой бураной Анисиной и Пейзера. Тем более после того, как еле-еле со скандалами К/О побеждали в 1999.
It looked like the judges knew what would happen before the event, there was no movement at all through the ENTIRE Eevent, that should say something. I agree, this team was far superior to the Italians in difficulty and quality
Now they know how Bourne and Kraatz felt in 98. Poetic justice!
@@jbuda4263 in 1998 Bourne and Kraatz did not have the most difficult OD, they did not have the most challenging FD and they made a mistakes in CD - so, how did they felt?
@@jbuda4263 B&K programs in 1998 were void of content and they made multiple errors in the compulsories. They should have finished lower than fourth in Nagano and lower than 3rd at Worlds that year.
how they are not 2 time world champions ? they were and they are much better than fusar-poli margaglio
I'd say 3 time, don't forget 1999 with a ridiculous victory for the russians.
@@nilivier I also thought they should have won in 1998 as well since Grishuk & Platov did not skate there. A&P were quite a bit better than Krylova & Ovsiannikov in both the OD and FD that season. I also had A&P ahead of K&O at the 1996 and 1997 Worlds as well.
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Wonderful! But were they just a bit tentative on their lifts right at the end?
Посмотрела в Википедии он всё ещё холост,48 лет,но есть 2 дочери, Марина живёт в Лионе,тренер,а Джигурда в её квартире в Москве,продала бы уж,да не сможет,отец детей, сколько мы люди в жизни выносим,всех жаль,
Это судьба !
Марина вы Золушка
Alisa Frolova, красивая.
the canadian public did not stand up for them... what a pity
Круто!
Человечки мои ненаглядные,ой мрiя знать французский
Pas de deux est tres balletique!
Мариночка,милая Мариночка вот и мне удалось увидеть как ты танцуешь
Как фигуристка хороша! Марина сильная!. Но в рыжей головке вавочка, выйти за Джигурду замуж.... Надо быть полной дурой. Бедненькая, не родись красивой
A/P were sloppy at times in this dance but I do feel they won this portion of the competition by one judge, however FP/M had the best original dance of any team in the competition. It wasn't a runaway victory for FP/M but I do think it was a fair one.
No it wasn't. Margaglio is an horrible skater, really. And even compare FP/M with Gwendal and Marina is ridiculous. Two deferent galaxys. Saying that the italians had the best original dance of that competition is hilarious.
Frolova Alisa, красотка рыжая бестия！