It was the Bruce &Denny show until Porsche ruined the series with MONEY. But there was competition with all of the other marks. Jim Hall always seemed to come up with some clever invention or development. When money took over the excitement ended. So did CanAm.
@@tracylemme1375 What? Can-Am was always about money. You think McLaren didn't throw money at it? This was the series that made them. Porsche was a Roger Penske team, funded by him with factory support, rather than a factory team. Can Am was never a very even series, even when it was attracting top-tier US and European drivers. The McLaren years were a total domination, reminiscent of 1973, except that it went on for _years._ So I don't know where you get this idea that Porsche ruined it. I think you must have been watching something else.
Mythology. The reality is Mclaren set the formula up for himself and thus dominated. When the 917s got going Bruce pulled the pin, rather than lose to them, and the whole series collapsed. Just look at he above race and compare it to the classic races at Goodwood. The above was pretty boring really.
Mee Ibast Honestly, how do people come to these conclusions? By the time Porsche arrived, Bruce McLaren had been dead for two years. Secondly, it didn’t stop there and then. There was still a Can-Am series for 1974, won by Jackie Oliver in a Shadow. And it was still a big American V8.
I watched these cars fired in anger throughout the Can-Am years at Watkins Glen. In the hands of fierce competitors like Denny Hulme and Sir Jackie Stewart, the races were mesmerizing. Standing at then turn 10, Hulme would come sliding around, nick the grass and kick up dust, then leave two monster black stripes as he disappeared like a rocket down the front straight. The pulses from the exhaust were like a punch in the sternum. All the while, they were often within a couple feet of each other. It's not like that now, but sure is great to see and hear these cars in action again.
I saw these cars at Laguna Seca.The pulses from the exhaust were incredible...To me it sounded like a sledge hammer on steel at 8000 rpm coming out of the cork screw.
I see these cars, and again as I say to myself... I am glad I am old... I saw things when they were great and crafted by hand. I am sure that the technology of today is incredible and fantastic... but seeing raw horsepower in the hands of …. not even supposed to say it anymore... MEN that had the guts, nerve, strength and EVERYTHING ELSE were willing to risk it all and not for a whole heck of a lot of money. $15,000 for 1st place at Watkins Glen in 1967? 1 set of tires is more than that now....and BACK THEN.. you could buy the SAME tires from an F-1 car for your own personal car, from your local dealer. Fantastic stuff.
I was a corner marshal here on Ontario Canada back in the late 60"s early 70"s at Mosport and in Quebec at St.Jovite. This was the best racing you could get. I watched Denny Hume put his gloves on after the bad burns he sustained and I was in tears watching him put his helmet on. A true competitor ! At at the track in Quebec I was at corner 8 from their it was a straight run up to the last corner before the front strait. their was a hump half way before the front strait many cars were air born what a sight. the sound was music to my ears....Thankyou.. Steve O.
Back in 1971 I knew a gentleman that raced SCCA in Chevy powered T160 Lola. That car was a beast. The thunderous sounds were without equal, pure American Bald Eagles. Racing in AP class, he would blast down the straightaway passing BBC Corvettes 5-6 cars every trip. He was lapping the field 10 minutes into the hour long race. The other highlight of that weekend was watching the venerable Group 44 boys perform.
Ya my buddy Ilja Burkhoff drove the 4th place Ti22 Titanium car. There was a great story behind the construction of that car but they said nothing about it. Also they butchered his name every time they tried to say it.
@@davew3817 That car was in the first Can-Am race I ever saw, at Mosport in 1970. Jackie Oliver drove it and gave Hulme and Gurney about all they could handle. Oliver ended up sideswiping a backmarker on the back straightaway and Gurney took the lead, eventually winning.
My son and I were so fortunate and blessed to help out on the Shadow race car team in 2016 and 2020 at Road America. To see, hear and Feel these incredible big block racing machines in person is something everyone should get to experience. The whole organization especially RM Motorsports in Wixom Mi. who is in mine and many others opinions one of the finest facilities that fabricates, maintains, services , and preps just about any type of race car is all wonderful caring people. We felt like family with them. The two brothers Craig and Kirt Bennett who won and placed 2nd in this race are AMAZING drivers. They both started with go karts many years ago and can drive anything and drive it fast. Was really cool watching this video. If I remember correct Craig said he never raced this track before in a car but spent some time on his Xbox or play station practicing it. You’d never know that seeing how he did there but then again they both are very talented drivers and I’m sure after a few practice laps had their lines figured out. My son and I hope to see them again at a race soon it’s always a memorable experience hanging out with them. Even though it was a lot of hard work it was fun work.
Truly a"gentlemans" sport. No one wants to prang their expensive toys. The sound of those engines is amazing. I never got to see these cars race, but I read all the race reports in Autoweek
How amazing is this? I saw these races as a boy. When they vanished, I couldn't believe it. Formula One, I considered crap!!! Seeing this now, I totally freaked out. These are real reace cars. 1000 hp, yes!
Thanks for the video! I was there just past the hairpin on the outside of the track. I had the pleasure to go into the paddock area to talk to the drivers and teams before the race. I was little when this series ran but had a collection of Aurora/AFX CanAm slot cars. I was too excited to see them in person (I'm 58 now). This was too cool! The noise and the cars were outstanding! I couldn't see them in their heyday but this was just as good!
The 101 car was crashed during the 2016 Mitty at Road Atlanta. It was rebuilt with as much as possible from the salvage. Rebuilt in a remarkable time of eleven weeks if memory serves me correct. The guys at RM Motorsports are a first class bunch!
Well, any chance to see these cars again is just great. I hope the next time they have such an event, it will be held at a road-course. Say some place like Watkins Glenn, or Road America or Road Atlanta. Now that would really be something to watch. For now, thanks for another chance to see these awesome cars.
One of the most beautiful collection of class race machines I have seen in a long time. So miss that era of racing. Only sad they were not able to include the Iconic Chaparralby Jim Hall.
I went down to watch this race at Long Beach. The Can-Am series was unbelievable! The Bennett Brothers were really racing each other to the chagrin of the other driver/owners. Imagine trying to navigate the street course in your $3M race car and the Bennetts each other and you passing on corners, balls to the wall! Follow this up by finding the 1200 HP P Porsche that literally killed the series.
Consider: These race cars are almost 50 years old and they race like time stood still !! Hello to all sports car racing sanctioning organizations. Sometimes old is better than new, and cheaper, fans eat it up, and the racing is incredible !!!
Saw these cars run back in the day at the Glen every year with my father and brothers. Pops would bring a cooler full of Genesees. The last few years he let me have a few as I was the oldest sibling. I was always a fan of the Shadows, but I really liked the quiet speed of the Porsches once they came on the scene.
Cam-Am car racing was always my favorite when I was a kid. They should bring it back. Sophisticated chassis and aero for the time powered by American muscle Big Block Chevrolet.
I was in L.A. on business and got to go to this race. Watching the Bennett brothers in the Shadows take the green, the sounds, and all of those fabulous CanAm racers almost brought me to a premature climax !!! GREAT DAY. Lots of beer and renewing old friendships followed.
The announcers were wrong when they said there were no fakes in the line-up. The blue and gold #2 in the back of the pack is a "nut and bolt" reproduction of the one-off Alan Mann car built by Holman Moody. It ran a 428 Shot Gun. The owner of the reproduction car also owns the original. The original raced only three times and then was parked in the back of the Holman Moody facility. One of the employees bought it a few years later and stashed it in a small shed in the middle of a zebra corral and boarded it up. A few years ago he sold it to the present owner. It was completely as raced, only it was dusty and the rear wing was missing. The reproduction was created as it was felt that the one-off original was to valuable to vintage race. Both cars are now for sale as a set as I understand.
I am retired now and I could easily go to these races and I never had, Home Court advantage, boy what I have been missing. I just heard of the Shadow about a month ago. I now ordered a slot car Shadow, they are selling out fast.
The Shadows really only show up at summer vintage event at road America mid July . The closest track for the owner ( one guy owns 30% of all shadows made!) I have seen them race there for 10 yrs straight, although they will be over at Goodwood this year for various events. They are mental, life changing loud and fast and brutal!! Go see can am if you can but make sure the big McLaren’s and shadows are involved for full effect
I know one announcer is Bruce Flanders, the other might be Tommy Kendall? Bruce has been doing the color for LBGP for years but maybe not lately? I'm a little surprised to hear him now, guessing he's late 60's? This camera coverage and broadcast sounds like it's intended only for track side big screens and grandstand PA system, not for TV. Someone please chime in and correct me please, curious... thanks for putting it up!
Yes, Flanders is a fixture of the LBGP. This was the track feed. These cars were magnificent live! And to be able to walk among them in the paddock was amazing! old school at its finest!
I wonder how it would have gone if a Porsche 917/30 had been there! Though I did prefer watching Denny Hulme manhandle the M8D McLaren around the track back in 1970 :) Excellant vid!
ChargerMiles007 it wouldn't have done as well. Longer, faster circuits suited it, this is a medium/low speed track, too much lag for it to run. The Shadows were making close to 1100hp anyway
wow so when i actually LOOK for this video, i can't fucking find it, but when im not, it just shows up in my recommended... ahh well, i'm thankful i finally get to see it
@superfisher28 Actually here in Australia there's a new category called S5000 which are open wheeled cars with 5.0L Coyote engines. They sound awesome.
You cant stop the future no matter what. Either you accept that eletric racing will be a thing or dont... but sooner or later its gonna happen making everything else obsolete
xrayracer1 Although I think Formula E is great racing...I do think there needs to be a racing league with absolutely zero restrictions. And everything goes...which Can-Am was pretty close. I think some of the greatest engineering transpired/transpires when rules are either super strict or there are none.
@@Eeter26 I've seen an entire Can-Am vintage race from 1971 on YT and hardly call it boring. Don't compare with these recent 'races' where they baby the cars for fear of even scratching a multi-million dollar classic. That's not real racing.
There is no comparison to a field of 20-30 CanAm cars ripping up a track like Mosport . The sound is visceral , it beats at your guts like a prizefighter unlike the banshee scream of flat plane cranks .
Why doesn't anyone bring CanAm back? I don't know the inner workings of any of that, but Im assuming any racing fan would love it. Those cars a diverse and sick af.
SuperExcedrin Umm... there isn’t a single car on this planet that wasn’t drawn by hand first, then modeled in a program, then changed for aerodynamic and restrictive reasons
:) some still do it the old way. Adrian Newey of Red Bull Racing, one of the best designers in history, still uses a slide rule, compass, pencil, and paper to design his cars. Hes always done it that way and always will.
They should do separate races for original can-am cars and the souped up modern hotrods. Those Shadows are about as original spec as Michael Jackson was in his final years.
Yeah, you really sense that. It's like the two of them wanted to buy a victory. Sad to see the 68 McClaren break down. Those cars were the heart of Can AM, love the 917, but it's about money sadly. Even the 6 cylinder Porsche beat the McClaren. These cars were also not made for a track like that. Nice to see them but they only really covered the two Shadows the entire race. If they want to protect the cars, maybe just do interesting time trials. It was really cool to see Lewis Hamilton drive Aryton Sena's old car. These cars take real skill.
not knowing what kind of car it was, i thought the yellow 17# looked like a can-am version of a shelby cobra, so i did some googling. turns out, its a shelby-ford cobra lol. #themoreyouknow
The No. 2 car has a 429 Ford and is a lot slower. I've been to Road America and Laguna Seca several times. Should not be any carbon fiber on any vintage race car!
Late reply, but these cars are among the Shadows owned by Jim Bartel out of Michigan. He also has at least one Shadow formula 5000 You can see Craig in the formula 5000 running at Monterey if you search for Monterey historic 2018. It's a great bit of F5000 footage. In the video we see here, Craig has only recently returned to driving after being horribly injured in the DN4 Can am car in 2016. As you probably know one of these cars was involved in a huge accident last month ( riverside I think ) where the car flipped at 180 mph or something. Jim was luckier than Craig and got out virtually unscathed.
Racing in the US has gone downhill the day they stopped CAN-AM. Brute horsepower, massive downforce and no driver aids, not the over teched, whiny turbo, super fragile cars of today.
Aesthetics over performance win every time. The concert pianist, Arthur Rubinstein will tell of his many mistakes, but his artistry surpassed the technically flawless. When given a choice, the artistry (with mistakes) is always chosen over the technically superior (without the artistry).
The greatest racing series in the history of motorsports.
Yes and no. The racing wasn’t very close. The years that weren’t dominated by McLaren were dominated by the Turbo Panzers.
It was the Bruce &Denny show until Porsche ruined the series with MONEY. But there was competition with all of the other marks. Jim Hall always seemed to come up with some clever invention or development. When money took over the excitement ended. So did CanAm.
@@tracylemme1375 What? Can-Am was always about money. You think McLaren didn't throw money at it? This was the series that made them. Porsche was a Roger Penske team, funded by him with factory support, rather than a factory team. Can Am was never a very even series, even when it was attracting top-tier US and European drivers. The McLaren years were a total domination, reminiscent of 1973, except that it went on for _years._ So I don't know where you get this idea that Porsche ruined it. I think you must have been watching something else.
Mythology. The reality is Mclaren set the formula up for himself and thus dominated. When the 917s got going Bruce pulled the pin, rather than lose to them, and the whole series collapsed. Just look at he above race and compare it to the classic races at Goodwood. The above was pretty boring really.
Mee Ibast Honestly, how do people come to these conclusions? By the time Porsche arrived, Bruce McLaren had been dead for two years. Secondly, it didn’t stop there and then. There was still a Can-Am series for 1974, won by Jackie Oliver in a Shadow. And it was still a big American V8.
Those Shadows look gloriously evil.
I watched these cars fired in anger throughout the Can-Am years at Watkins Glen. In the hands of fierce competitors like Denny Hulme and Sir Jackie Stewart, the races were mesmerizing. Standing at then turn 10, Hulme would come sliding around, nick the grass and kick up dust, then leave two monster black stripes as he disappeared like a rocket down the front straight. The pulses from the exhaust were like a punch in the sternum. All the while, they were often within a couple feet of each other. It's not like that now, but sure is great to see and hear these cars in action again.
A fantastic recollection :-)
I saw these cars at Laguna Seca.The pulses from the exhaust were incredible...To me it sounded like a sledge hammer on steel at 8000 rpm coming out of the cork screw.
me too. I saw these monsters as a kid at Mosport Park and what a ground shaking sound they made when they came around.
I see these cars, and again as I say to myself... I am glad I am old... I saw things when they were great and crafted by hand. I am sure that the technology of today is incredible and fantastic... but seeing raw horsepower in the hands of …. not even supposed to say it anymore... MEN that had the guts, nerve, strength and EVERYTHING ELSE were willing to risk it all and not for a whole heck of a lot of money. $15,000 for 1st place at Watkins Glen in 1967? 1 set of tires is more than that now....and BACK THEN.. you could buy the SAME tires from an F-1 car for your own personal car, from your local dealer. Fantastic stuff.
Yes, when the racing was really good. Beautiful machines. Too bad the Chaparrals were missing...
I was a corner marshal here on Ontario Canada back in the late 60"s early 70"s at Mosport and in Quebec at St.Jovite. This was the best racing you could get. I watched Denny Hume put his gloves on after the bad burns he sustained and I was in tears watching him put his helmet on. A true competitor ! At at the track in Quebec I was at corner 8 from their it was a straight run up to the last corner before the front strait. their was a hump half way before the front strait many cars were air born what a sight. the sound was music to my ears....Thankyou.. Steve O.
Back in 1971 I knew a gentleman that raced SCCA in Chevy powered T160 Lola. That car was a beast. The thunderous sounds were without equal, pure American Bald Eagles. Racing in AP class, he would blast down the straightaway passing BBC Corvettes 5-6 cars every trip. He was lapping the field 10 minutes into the hour long race.
The other highlight of that weekend was watching the venerable Group 44 boys perform.
Even if there was no overtaking, its still massively amazing to just watch them all go round the track.
It was one of the most innovative and exciting racing series ever.
Thanks for posting. Would have been nice if the commentators knew/ mentioned more about the history of all of these great cars.
Yep: they were basically useless.
They were horrible. “The 6 car.” “The 101 car.” They sound like morons when they call out cars like that. What are they, NASCAR people?
Ya my buddy Ilja Burkhoff drove the 4th place Ti22 Titanium car. There was a great story behind the construction of that car but they said nothing about it. Also they butchered his name every time they tried to say it.
@@davew3817
That car was in the first Can-Am race I ever saw, at Mosport in 1970. Jackie Oliver drove it and gave Hulme and Gurney about all they could handle.
Oliver ended up sideswiping a backmarker on the back straightaway and Gurney took the lead, eventually winning.
This is awesome. I got to watch these cars race at Mosport in Canada when I was a kid. Never realized how lucky I was.
I was so blessed in the day. Got to see so many of the cars up close and personal.
My dad was Cheif Course Physician for the SCCA during those years.
Can-Am cars are absolutely stunning!!!
My son and I were so fortunate and blessed to help out on the Shadow race car team in 2016 and 2020 at Road America. To see, hear and Feel these incredible big block racing machines in person is something everyone should get to experience. The whole organization especially RM Motorsports in Wixom Mi. who is in mine and many others opinions one of the finest facilities that fabricates, maintains, services , and preps just about any type of race car is all wonderful caring people. We felt like family with them. The two brothers Craig and Kirt Bennett who won and placed 2nd in this race are AMAZING drivers. They both started with go karts many years ago and can drive anything and drive it fast. Was really cool watching this video. If I remember correct Craig said he never raced this track before in a car but spent some time on his Xbox or play station practicing it. You’d never know that seeing how he did there but then again they both are very talented drivers and I’m sure after a few practice laps had their lines figured out. My son and I hope to see them again at a race soon it’s always a memorable experience hanging out with them. Even though it was a lot of hard work it was fun work.
Truly a"gentlemans" sport. No one wants to prang their expensive toys. The sound of those engines is amazing. I never got to see these cars race, but I read all the race reports in Autoweek
How amazing is this? I saw these races as a boy. When they vanished, I couldn't believe it. Formula One, I considered crap!!!
Seeing this now, I totally freaked out. These are real reace cars. 1000 hp, yes!
But, but...... piston engines are to hard, we need eco friendly formula hybrid to teach us all!
@@phoenixrising4573 ur mom need eco spanking boi
We don't want green power, only piston hard hitting big engines. It's what Motorsports all about
Those pushrod engines make some beautiful sound.
Glad I came across this! Excellent show.
My Childhood Lives Again! Great Job!
The cars I grew up with and still love today! Thanks for the video!
Thanks for the video! I was there just past the hairpin on the outside of the track. I had the pleasure to go into the paddock area to talk to the drivers and teams before the race. I was little when this series ran but had a collection of Aurora/AFX CanAm slot cars. I was too excited to see them in person (I'm 58 now). This was too cool! The noise and the cars were outstanding! I couldn't see them in their heyday but this was just as good!
GREAT VINTAGE RACING!! Thanks for posting.
The 101 car was crashed during the 2016 Mitty at Road Atlanta. It was rebuilt with as much as possible from the salvage. Rebuilt in a remarkable time of eleven weeks if memory serves me correct. The guys at RM Motorsports are a first class bunch!
Well, any chance to see these cars again is just great. I hope the next time they have such an event, it will be held at a road-course. Say some place like Watkins Glenn, or Road America or Road Atlanta. Now that would really be something to watch. For now, thanks for another chance to see these awesome cars.
One of the most beautiful collection of class race machines I have seen in a long time.
So miss that era of racing. Only sad they were not able to include the Iconic Chaparralby Jim Hall.
No spec racers here...these cars were mean and nasty! Saw them several times at Watkins Glen.
Bring can am back please, best racing ever.
Best Racing Era 🏁💯
Glad to see the Bennett boys out there killing it, known them my whole life but never seen them race!
I went down to watch this race at Long Beach. The Can-Am series was unbelievable! The Bennett Brothers were really racing each other to the chagrin of the other driver/owners. Imagine trying to navigate the street course in your $3M race car and the Bennetts each other and you passing on corners, balls to the wall! Follow this up by finding the 1200 HP P
Porsche that literally killed the series.
The best racing the most beautiful race cars ever
Wish we would have seen more than the two Shadows.
still super cool event. amazing to see and hear them in such detail.
Those 1000 hp Roush engines are hard to beat, good job Bro's
BLACK SHADOW CAN AM CARS. SIMPLY EPIC RIDES 🏁💯
Amazing piece of history.
Consider: These race cars are almost 50 years old and they race like time stood still !!
Hello to all sports car racing sanctioning organizations. Sometimes old is better than new, and cheaper, fans eat it up, and the racing is incredible !!!
Imagine if the turbocharged Shadow DN2 was sorted out before the series ended.
Damn these cars look so cool.
Bring back Can-Am
Saw these cars run back in the day at the Glen every year with my father and brothers. Pops would bring a cooler full of Genesees. The last few years he let me have a few as I was the oldest sibling. I was always a fan of the Shadows, but I really liked the quiet speed of the Porsches once they came on the scene.
That is the longest formation lap that I have ever seen in all of the various forms or motor racing. Over five minutes.
Incredibly beautiful cars
i was there for this race
couldn't believe how loud these cars are
absolutely ground shaking
Never been a sound like that before or since.
Cam-Am car racing was always my favorite when I was a kid. They should bring it back. Sophisticated chassis and aero for the time powered by American muscle Big Block Chevrolet.
I was in L.A. on business and got to go to this race. Watching the Bennett brothers in the Shadows take the green, the sounds, and all of those fabulous CanAm
racers almost brought me to a premature climax !!!
GREAT DAY. Lots of beer and renewing old friendships
followed.
I love this era of Racing 👍👍
I've never seen those shadow cars, they look awesome. Pretty similar to the LM Ferrari's and BMW's that are 20 years newer.
some of the coolest racecars on the planet
The announcers were wrong when they said there were no fakes in the line-up. The blue and gold #2 in the back of the pack is a "nut and bolt" reproduction of the one-off Alan Mann car built by Holman Moody. It ran a 428 Shot Gun. The owner of the reproduction car also owns the original. The original raced only three times and then was parked in the back of the Holman Moody facility. One of the employees bought it a few years later and stashed it in a small shed in the middle of a zebra corral and boarded it up. A few years ago he sold it to the present owner. It was completely as raced, only it was dusty and the rear wing was missing. The reproduction was created as it was felt that the one-off original was to valuable to vintage race. Both cars are now for sale as a set as I understand.
Love these cars!
Those announcers had absolutely no idea
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the red car with the super high rear wing looks like from a comic book
I am retired now and I could easily go to these races and I never had, Home Court advantage, boy what I have been missing. I just heard of the Shadow about a month ago. I now ordered a slot car Shadow, they are selling out fast.
The Shadows really only show up at summer vintage event at road America mid July . The closest track for the owner ( one guy owns 30% of all shadows made!) I have seen them race there for 10 yrs straight, although they will be over at Goodwood this year for various events. They are mental, life changing loud and fast and brutal!! Go see can am if you can but make sure the big McLaren’s and shadows are involved for full effect
Those shadow cars are so sexy it hurts
It takes a lot of balls to race these million dollar machines.
Watching the two Shadows going at is like, watching twin Superman brothers going at it, one is quicker and the other one is meaner.
MAAAAN! That Shadows pratically had dinner on the slower runners with sauce and farofa!
The Shadow Cars seem to be invincible! They even have a bad-@$$ name!
I know one announcer is Bruce Flanders, the other might be Tommy Kendall? Bruce has been doing the color for LBGP for years but maybe not lately? I'm a little surprised to hear him now, guessing he's late 60's? This camera coverage and broadcast sounds like it's intended only for track side big screens and grandstand PA system, not for TV. Someone please chime in and correct me please, curious... thanks for putting it up!
Yes, Flanders is a fixture of the LBGP. This was the track feed. These cars were magnificent live! And to be able to walk among them in the paddock was amazing! old school at its finest!
I saw these race at RIR back in the day. 1970s
I wonder how it would have gone if a Porsche 917/30 had been there! Though I did prefer watching Denny Hulme manhandle the M8D McLaren around the track back in 1970 :)
Excellant vid!
ChargerMiles007 The number 22 is a 917/30, the driver doesn't seem to be racing it like it should.
no its not a 917/30....they never had trumpet fuel injection
ChargerMiles007 e
btw, number 22 is NOT a porsche, its a Sting GW1 Chevrolet
ChargerMiles007 it wouldn't have done as well. Longer, faster circuits suited it, this is a medium/low speed track, too much lag for it to run. The Shadows were making close to 1100hp anyway
I live in Australia too bad we never got to see these animals.
Can you update in the description of the video the play by play announcers name?
Now THAT'S how racing should sound F1...
I watch the Bennett brothers race at Road America and its not even a race they usually lap everybody!
wow so when i actually LOOK for this video, i can't fucking find it, but when im not, it just shows up in my recommended... ahh well, i'm thankful i finally get to see it
were the shadows out in front the last generation of the can am series
what were the Shadows lap times?
No 917s?
I wonder what will happen if Can Am suddenly returns,with the same rules as back in the day
Shame Jim Hall won't allow the Chaparrals out
I want to thank Forza for putting these cars in their game
Racing categories like this need to make a comeback. None of this eco friendly, fuel saving hybrid electric nonsense that we have.
@superfisher28 Actually here in Australia there's a new category called S5000 which are open wheeled cars with 5.0L Coyote engines. They sound awesome.
xrayracer1 the racing in can am competition was on average very boring. I’d rather watch ”eco friendly, hybrid electric nonsense.”
You cant stop the future no matter what. Either you accept that eletric racing will be a thing or dont... but sooner or later its gonna happen making everything else obsolete
xrayracer1 Although I think Formula E is great racing...I do think there needs to be a racing league with absolutely zero restrictions. And everything goes...which Can-Am was pretty close. I think some of the greatest engineering transpired/transpires when rules are either super strict or there are none.
@@Eeter26 I've seen an entire Can-Am vintage race from 1971 on YT and hardly call it boring. Don't compare with these recent 'races' where they baby the cars for fear of even scratching a multi-million dollar classic. That's not real racing.
Mmmmm...Those are some smexy cars...
We need to bring Can Am BACK! :D
We need to have this a national series with big Block aluminum engines.
They've already proven any F1 or Indy car would run circles around the Can-Am
@jonny j i love Can-Am but don't act suprised.. you know very well that F1 and Indy Cars are way faster around a circuit
There is no comparison to a field of 20-30 CanAm cars ripping up a track like Mosport . The sound is visceral , it beats at your guts like a prizefighter unlike the banshee scream of flat plane cranks .
@@nun6996 Yeah now, but not ~50 years ago they weren't.
@@jamesaron1967 Right?!
Racing starts at 5:30
Why doesn't anyone bring CanAm back? I don't know the inner workings of any of that, but Im assuming any racing fan would love it. Those cars a diverse and sick af.
what a fuckin roar ...this is racing!!!
Old race cars always look more beautiful because they were drawn by humans not a CFD program.
SuperExcedrin Umm... there isn’t a single car on this planet that wasn’t drawn by hand first, then modeled in a program, then changed for aerodynamic and restrictive reasons
The Ford Model T
:) some still do it the old way. Adrian Newey of Red Bull Racing, one of the best designers in history, still uses a slide rule, compass, pencil, and paper to design his cars. Hes always done it that way and always will.
@jonny j even tho he might be wrong. dont you have any manners?
iconic perhaps, but not necessary beautifull. also i wouldnt compare cars from a different aera and class
They should do separate races for original can-am cars and the souped up modern hotrods. Those Shadows are about as original spec as Michael Jackson was in his final years.
Yeah, you really sense that. It's like the two of them wanted to buy a victory. Sad to see the 68 McClaren break down. Those cars were the heart of Can AM, love the 917, but it's about money sadly. Even the 6 cylinder Porsche beat the McClaren. These cars were also not made for a track like that. Nice to see them but they only really covered the two Shadows the entire race. If they want to protect the cars, maybe just do interesting time trials. It was really cool to see Lewis Hamilton drive Aryton Sena's old car.
These cars take real skill.
no Porsche 917/30's ?
not knowing what kind of car it was, i thought the yellow 17# looked like a can-am version of a shelby cobra, so i did some googling.
turns out, its a shelby-ford cobra lol.
#themoreyouknow
at this point it was a ford powered "genie"
had to abandon the clip, couldn't put up with any more dull commentary, pity, the engine sounds almost made it worthwhile suffering.
The No. 2 car has a 429 Ford and is a lot slower. I've been to Road America and Laguna Seca several times. Should not be any carbon fiber on any vintage race car!
A 429? Sure? I think there was a 494 Can Am engine, based on the Boss 429.
Proper racing.
Commentator didn't know who they were, none of 'em!
Wow 5 1/2 minutes of slow pace laps!
No 917/30?
Probably difficult to find
Very good to see no Porsche.
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Anybody know where are those Shadows and who owns them? :-D
Late reply, but these cars are among the Shadows owned by Jim Bartel out of Michigan. He also has at least one Shadow formula 5000 You can see Craig in the formula 5000 running at Monterey if you search for Monterey historic 2018. It's a great bit of F5000 footage. In the video we see here, Craig has only recently returned to driving after being horribly injured in the DN4 Can am car in 2016. As you probably know one of these cars was involved in a huge accident last month ( riverside I think ) where the car flipped at 180 mph or something. Jim was luckier than Craig and got out virtually unscathed.
@@gcmc2gcmc279 Shadow flipped on the main straight at Road America during practice. Driver was OK but car was destroyed.
This is better then porn!!!
Racing in the US has gone downhill the day they stopped CAN-AM. Brute horsepower, massive downforce and no driver aids, not the over teched, whiny turbo, super fragile cars of today.
Yeah but the racing was pretty boring.
Most interesting cars to ever run at Riverside and Laguna Seca in the rear-engine era. But Long Beach is truly a gawd-awful place to run them.
The best car is missing!
917/30?
McLaren won more races than Porsche ever did.
and hard to drive
Funny the TI-22 is a recreation not the original car.
Estos son autos de carreras!!!! No las porongas computarizadas de hoy dia.
A good image quality video but the angles and distance from the track don't give any sense of speed. The race looks like more pace laps.
Aesthetics over performance win every time. The concert pianist, Arthur Rubinstein will tell of his many mistakes, but his artistry surpassed the technically flawless. When given a choice, the artistry (with mistakes) is always chosen over the technically superior (without the artistry).
U cant say electric cars are better in everything...