Discmania just might pull off something huge.

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  • čas přidán 13. 07. 2024
  • Eagle McMahon is probably leaving Discmania. Gannon Buhr is probably joining. But the addition of Alden Harris to join up with his buds at Discmania shouldn't be overlooked, especially since Kyle Klein isn't going anywhere. The 2024 disc golf offseason has been a fun one, let me know what you think the final moves will be!
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  • @RGMDG
    @RGMDG Před 6 měsíci +5

    It is going to be an interesting and exciting year in Disc golf. Enjoying the content. Thank you.

  • @aeolusdiscgolf
    @aeolusdiscgolf Před 6 měsíci +20

    Not a single word about Tuomas Hyytiainen (35K YT subs) and Niklas Antilla (10K) leaving Discmania? Alden has great content, but with "only" 25K subs his channel is def. less seen.

    • @ArmoryDiscGolf
      @ArmoryDiscGolf  Před 6 měsíci +12

      I'm over here in my American bubble, I've never even heard of Tuomas to be honest with you. I'm intrigued by the European market (and think that Prodigy will Niklas as a push there), but am just not very knowledgeable about it. Also, Alden is smaller but uploads about 2x as much as Tuomas and his videos average quite a bit more views, so his channel is still more seen even though he has less subs

    • @pdderek
      @pdderek Před 6 měsíci +12

      Subs aren't the same as views 🎉

    • @santtukujala
      @santtukujala Před 6 měsíci

      They both will stay at dm

    • @brickchains1
      @brickchains1 Před 6 měsíci

      American exceptionalism

    • @xsolar
      @xsolar Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@santtukujala Niklas already left

  • @ITtutorjack
    @ITtutorjack Před 6 měsíci

    Glad you included the shot at 0:29, that was such a great shot

  • @lynch42o
    @lynch42o Před 6 měsíci +3

    As soon as Kyle hit the scene, I'm sure a lot of us after watching him for a few rounds knew he was going to be doing big things soon to come if he can keep it up.

    • @ArmoryDiscGolf
      @ArmoryDiscGolf  Před 6 měsíci

      He had a lot of hype a couple years ago but it seems like it got real quiet even though he's still playing great

  • @michaelcarranza1569
    @michaelcarranza1569 Před 6 měsíci

    Great video and insight!

  • @disguy3400
    @disguy3400 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Maybe I am missing part of the story, but I dint get why Prodigy is getting heat for suing Gannon. It seems like Gannon tried to break a contract. You have to sue to enforce the contract. That is why there is a contract. Seems like they would have an interest in enforcing their contracts.

    • @ArmoryDiscGolf
      @ArmoryDiscGolf  Před 6 měsíci +5

      I think everyone but Prodigy and Gannon is missing part of the story. Contracts are definitely there for a reason, both parties seemed to think the other wasn't upholding their end 🤷‍♂️

    • @danielpenrodii2389
      @danielpenrodii2389 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Gannon is represented by his mom, who isn’t somebody professionally trained in the team of contracts and negotiating. She felt like they deserved to see all the financial reports as if they were employees on the board of directors, but when that wasn’t obviously given, they threw a tantrum. Hence why they waited so late in the offseason to suddenly drop the bomb publicly, to get the public opinion on their side as if they were being held prisoners by Prodigy. If they wanted to seek a fair break, they had October, November, and December to get something going. The fact it all came crashing down when it did and how it did is telling. It was a power play by Gannon’s side

    • @chrism4008
      @chrism4008 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@danielpenrodii2389you reading way to much into it dude. Players break their contracts all the time without being sued, but I think thats going to start changing now. I dont think it was right of players to break contracts, but Gannon being sued doesn't make what he did a "power play" 😂😂 what kind of "power" could they even possibly hope to achieve through leaving a contract early?! That makes no mf sense dude, seriously, think about it! You make no sense

    • @danielpenrodii2389
      @danielpenrodii2389 Před 6 měsíci

      @@chrism4008 Where have you been? With the status of social media, you don’t have to be right in order to get the power of public opinion on your side, you simply have to be first. Gannon and his mom went to social media first to break this story. Don’t you remember the first 30 days after the news story? It was 99.9% everybody trashing Prodigy left and right, all while praising Gannon for speaking up and how he deserved more money. Seriously, instead of keeping it professional and behind closed doors, them taking to social media got literally every fan on Gannon’s side. Prodigy’s public image had never been lower and for the next few months, all that could be talked about was how bad their plastic was or how awful their company was. Their discs sales took a nosedive too

  • @aldenharris18
    @aldenharris18 Před 6 měsíci +8

    🤔

  • @siddeus737
    @siddeus737 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I am a big discmania fan and would love to see all of them there...but I am doubtful about Eagle staying. Gannon and Alden together would be great and I feel Gannon wants more of his own discs so I think it would be really cool to see some of those and use them myself

    • @ArmoryDiscGolf
      @ArmoryDiscGolf  Před 6 měsíci +1

      I like the idea of Gannon getting his own discs as slight variants to what Discmania currently offers, similar to what Prodigy did for KJ, Cale, and Isaac

    • @siddeus737
      @siddeus737 Před 6 měsíci

      @@ArmoryDiscGolf exactly!

  • @micdavey
    @micdavey Před 6 měsíci +2

    Yeah, people sleep way too much on Kyle, and his form is buttery smooth.

  • @thediscgolfworld
    @thediscgolfworld Před 6 měsíci

    🔥

  • @wooky5461
    @wooky5461 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Yeah content creators like Bodanza are the next big money maker for the sport. Broderic and his channel with some collabs brings another aspect to the space. Be interesting to see how things flush out for the upcoming season

    • @ArmoryDiscGolf
      @ArmoryDiscGolf  Před 6 měsíci

      It'll be interesting to see how many pros get active on CZcams- it's been a trend this offseason, but their seasons are so jam packed I don't blame them for not getting content out

  • @robertjones1730
    @robertjones1730 Před 6 měsíci +6

    Gannon and Alden are hilarious but I still wouldn't throw Discmania (or Prodigy) and it would be a shame for corporate to get a hold of them and start trying to boss them around on what they can and can't do in a video. I thought it was the coolest thing that these bros would do the wackiest goofing around and then shred the courses beating the top pros who are so serious about trying to be the best. If Discmania wants to tap into their magic then they need to let them keep being themselves.

    • @ArmoryDiscGolf
      @ArmoryDiscGolf  Před 6 měsíci

      Yeah I'd imagine Discmania would give them pretty free rein if this were to shake out that way

  • @Falascoa
    @Falascoa Před 6 měsíci +4

    I think eagle was trolling.

    • @ArmoryDiscGolf
      @ArmoryDiscGolf  Před 6 měsíci +1

      That would be hilarious, I'm here for it

    • @cmac1573
      @cmac1573 Před 6 měsíci

      I don't know. Doesn't seem like his style.

  • @a.j.5108
    @a.j.5108 Před 6 měsíci

    It seems like Eagle is either leaving or they are trying to build up hype, I thought the pd2 release would coincide with the re-signing of Eagle. But now with both mystery boxes are out, I don't think there's anything else for them to hype up....... I don't think Jussi is making the decision anymore.

    • @ArmoryDiscGolf
      @ArmoryDiscGolf  Před 6 měsíci

      Yeah the PD2 being named as an Eagle sig series or something would've been a great way to announce his re-signing. Kinda gives off Doom Bird 4 vibes now...

    • @danielpenrodii2389
      @danielpenrodii2389 Před 6 měsíci

      I think he’s leaving, but not until next offseason.

    • @ArmoryDiscGolf
      @ArmoryDiscGolf  Před 6 měsíci

      @@danielpenrodii2389 well his contract is up, I would be extremely surprised if he only signs a one year deal to stay with DM

  • @mortenlothe6893
    @mortenlothe6893 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Discmania shot them selves in the foot with the active line;)

    • @ArmoryDiscGolf
      @ArmoryDiscGolf  Před 6 měsíci

      expound?

    • @danielpenrodii2389
      @danielpenrodii2389 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ⁠@@ArmoryDiscGolfIt was simply a failed series of discs, in the long run. Their older discs are beloved and instead of simply producing more of them, they made a bunch of bizarrely lame named discs and the quality wasn’t there. Hence why you see so many in starter packs! The percentage of DiscMania fans and players overall that truly love the Active Line is insanely small. 99% of people would pick the lineup of “out of production” discs in a heartbeat over the Active Line discs.

    • @danielpenrodii2389
      @danielpenrodii2389 Před 6 měsíci

      For real! Their “out of production” list makes me so heartbroken when you realize how crappy the Active Line is. Just put your money into reproducing the classics!

    • @mortenlothe6893
      @mortenlothe6893 Před 6 měsíci

      Yeah, and they missed with the new "stone" series;)@@danielpenrodii2389

  • @NJT1013
    @NJT1013 Před 6 měsíci +1

    If Eagle posted more people will pay attention. He's pretty regular, but not like some others. If you say disc golf content, I bet we ALL think Simon and Bodanza first, and then a few favorites after.

    • @ArmoryDiscGolf
      @ArmoryDiscGolf  Před 6 měsíci

      100%
      There are a lot of pros that have a lot of subs bc they're pros, but there's also a talent to being entertaining on camera as well- Simon doesn't just have a beautiful toss, he's also got good charisma for this format (which is why he's the current king of it)

    • @NJT1013
      @NJT1013 Před 6 měsíci

      @ArmoryDiscGolf Subs are good but they need views. That's really all that matters. I guarantee those with the most watch hours will have the highest contracts moving forward.

  • @cup_and_cone
    @cup_and_cone Před 6 měsíci

    Crush boys are MVP now with Eagle jumping to MVP and the old Prodigy crew of Gannon/Alden/Bobcock is going to Discmania.

    • @ArmoryDiscGolf
      @ArmoryDiscGolf  Před 6 měsíci

      Yup, that's what I'm predicting. I think it makes the most sense. Though I would really enjoy seeing Eagle throw Innova too

    • @cup_and_cone
      @cup_and_cone Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@ArmoryDiscGolf Yeah, Eagle in Innova would be cool, but Innova doesn't pay to play. The fact Innova got Emerson Keith on their B-team was a steal...he could easily win a tour event or two this season.

    • @ArmoryDiscGolf
      @ArmoryDiscGolf  Před 6 měsíci

      @@cup_and_cone which is frustrating. I wish Innova cared more about bolstering their pro side

  • @trev3971
    @trev3971 Před 6 měsíci +1

    the power of christ compels you
    to sign with discmania

  • @danielpenrodii2389
    @danielpenrodii2389 Před 6 měsíci +2

    If Eagle was to leave DiscMania, doing it now wouldn’t make sense. Coming off an injury, surgery, and rehab is already shortening his 2024 season. Why force himself to learn a whole new bag ASAP when recovering when he could just wait until the next offseason?

    • @Chupaluppa
      @Chupaluppa Před 6 měsíci

      He accidentally posted a video titled "Why im leaving discmania" but removed it fast, but people got to see the title, so it is confirmed he is leaving.

    • @cup_and_cone
      @cup_and_cone Před 6 měsíci

      He is leaving...he accidentally publicly published his departure video and then made it private again.

    • @ArmoryDiscGolf
      @ArmoryDiscGolf  Před 6 měsíci +1

      I don't think that it takes pros very long to learn how other companies' discs fly, regardless. I'd imagine if the money were good it would be well worth his time to spend a couple of weeks ironing out kinks (while still being an elite talent in the meantime). These guys know how to throw discs

  • @superblitz
    @superblitz Před 6 měsíci

    I disagree that it is "a smoke screen" that the companies are going to add more players after announcing their Touring Team.

    • @ArmoryDiscGolf
      @ArmoryDiscGolf  Před 6 měsíci

      The "leaked announcement" that I was referring to was Eagle's supposed premature announcement from a few days ago. Looks like he's leaving DM but there's also a lot of speculation that it was a "fake leak"

  • @thoth2012moon
    @thoth2012moon Před 6 měsíci

    Gannon and Alden to discmaina, Eagle and Antilla to Lone Star 🤷‍♂️

    • @ArmoryDiscGolf
      @ArmoryDiscGolf  Před 6 měsíci +1

      I would be down for that just to see the chaos that would ensue haha

  • @100proofcrew
    @100proofcrew Před 6 měsíci

    A whole discmania video and comment section and not a single mention of Casey White

    • @ArmoryDiscGolf
      @ArmoryDiscGolf  Před 6 měsíci

      I wasn't trying to cover the squad exhaustively, Casey is just not up for contract rn so it's business as usual on that end

  • @GregoryM1
    @GregoryM1 Před 6 měsíci +2

    So what I've thought is Discmania has been falling behind manufacturing. Prodigy and MVP alike all have discs that are super flippy and/or lightweight. There is a huge market for beginners with slow arm speeds to buy flippy or lightweight discs. Discmania doesn't have any of that. Not only that, but these super glidy 1 speeds people are putting out the last few years, Discmania didn't do that either.
    I know Discmania is a company and can only do so much, but if the market speaks, you must reply or get left behind

    • @skiller2704
      @skiller2704 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Your not Discmania fan.
      Discmania has that 1 speed disc (Cloud stone)

    • @ArmoryDiscGolf
      @ArmoryDiscGolf  Před 6 měsíci

      Discmania has been put behind a bit by switching to independent manufacturing, but they DO have a good amount of flippy stuff available- albeit in their Evo line
      They also just released their version of that glidey 1 speed in their mystery boxes, which looks to be a unique take on the slot (it's very slim, as opposed to the deep Glitch/Polecat variants)
      I'm excited to see them continue to expand their originals line, though

    • @cirkuslizard8697
      @cirkuslizard8697 Před 6 měsíci

      @@skiller2704You mean the one you have to but two mystery boxes to get? Or the one you could have had for 800 on eBay. His point is spot on. They have some beginner stuff via the evolution line,(I use them) but most discs are geared to intermediate or advanced players.

    • @justinbutler8418
      @justinbutler8418 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@skiller2704didn’t that just release in the last like 2 weeks of the year? I think the argument still stands. Other companies put them out much earlier and then saw the returns $$$$

    • @skiller2704
      @skiller2704 Před 6 měsíci

      @@justinbutler8418 okay i understand your point yes.
      But what do you mean by flipy? Because Discmania has essence,origin whole active line.

  • @danielpenrodii2389
    @danielpenrodii2389 Před 6 měsíci

    Kyle Klein is a beast, no doubt. However, he didn’t come close to the expectations in 2022 so his image took a hit. He wasn’t bad by any means, it’s just his peak wasn’t what anybody expected.

    • @ArmoryDiscGolf
      @ArmoryDiscGolf  Před 6 měsíci +3

      I mean... he was a total of 2 strokes from winning 2 majors and the DGPT Championship, in addition to being a top 10 player on tour overall. What sort of crazy expectations do we have for him?
      I wish I was good enough to where that's a disappointing season 😂

  • @tonis5487
    @tonis5487 Před 6 měsíci

    "pull off something huge"... Are they going to sign Lizotte again or McBeth? Don't get me wrong, Buhr to Discmania would be wonderful, but Discmania lost Lizotte and Eagle in back-to-back years. That's like Golden State Warriors trading away Curry and Thompson.
    Ultiworld Fan Survey asked a question: "Have you ever purchased a touring/signature series disc for any of these players? (2023)". The answer: Lizotte sells THE MOST plastic on tour, Eagle is 3rd on that list... Buhr, you ask? Gannon Buhr barely broke top 20 on that same list ...
    I don't know how Discmania will recover from this.

    • @ArmoryDiscGolf
      @ArmoryDiscGolf  Před 6 měsíci +1

      That was in reference to Eagle possibly staying- I agree that this loss is huge for them. I AM very curious to see how Gannon climbs that list now that he's not throwing for Prodigy

  • @Nick-jk8zw
    @Nick-jk8zw Před 6 měsíci

    Don’t say what Usi did caused Simon to leave or any player to leave the team. That literally has nothing to do with contract negotiations. Money is what matters. Learn before you talk. Bad take

    • @ArmoryDiscGolf
      @ArmoryDiscGolf  Před 6 měsíci

      Not what I said. He was the first of what is probably (with Eagle's supposed departure) 3 huge pieces of Discmania that have left over the last 2 years

  • @jakesnyder9423
    @jakesnyder9423 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Gannon and Alden are already a done deal to Discmania and Eagle is a done deal to MVP.

    • @cup_and_cone
      @cup_and_cone Před 6 měsíci

      ☝️ This man knows what's up. Crush boys are MVP now and the old Prodigy crew is going to Discmania.

    • @ArmoryDiscGolf
      @ArmoryDiscGolf  Před 6 měsíci

      I think that makes the most sense 👍

  • @InbredJed82060
    @InbredJed82060 Před 6 měsíci

    Kyle Klein is like joel freeman and kevin jones. Yea they are good but most players don't know them, let alone like them.

    • @wesleygrogan5318
      @wesleygrogan5318 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Maybe a hot take but if kj was with another brand or finished as well as kyle, he would be viewed in the same boat as simon and eagle.

    • @ArmoryDiscGolf
      @ArmoryDiscGolf  Před 6 měsíci

      I see what you're, but KJ was a big deal when he was finishing higher. He's a few good finishes away from being back in the limelight imo

    • @ArmoryDiscGolf
      @ArmoryDiscGolf  Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@wesleygrogan5318 I agree with this take

  • @Darthyeetrous
    @Darthyeetrous Před 6 měsíci

    I agree that Kyle Klein is an amazing player but he might be the least personality to talent ratio. I think that's why he's not talked about. He doesn't bring the excitement as others in his skill bracket. He's not bringing anything on the casual rounds I've seen either. I wanted to like him when he was on the 3rd "crush boy" but couldn't find a reason to like him.

    • @ArmoryDiscGolf
      @ArmoryDiscGolf  Před 6 měsíci

      Especially since he seems so different than Eagle and Simon, I think forcing him into "Crush Boy" status was a mistake branding wise

  • @brettduffin8412
    @brettduffin8412 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Having a channel is only half the battle. Gannon and Gavin have as much charisma as a pile of Simon's toe nail clippings.

    • @ArmoryDiscGolf
      @ArmoryDiscGolf  Před 6 měsíci

      Haha different strokes for different folks, there are a lot of people that love that content

  • @maxdoubled4800
    @maxdoubled4800 Před 6 měsíci

    Alden Harris is good but not Klein or buhr status lmao.

    • @ArmoryDiscGolf
      @ArmoryDiscGolf  Před 6 měsíci

      Correct, but I don't think anyone is arguing that anyway

  • @cricketfilms1879
    @cricketfilms1879 Před 6 měsíci

    lmfao bro did you just say we needed to put "respec" on his name? You cant even say RespecT bro

    • @ArmoryDiscGolf
      @ArmoryDiscGolf  Před 6 měsíci +3

      with all due respec, if you don't enjoy the occasional goofy comment this may not be the channel for you

    • @dustinsanford6045
      @dustinsanford6045 Před 6 měsíci

      Saying, "bro" and criticizing someone for jokingly saying, "respec" seems odd to me...