LIME PLASTER: The CHEAPEST and MOST DURABLE SIDING that's been Time-tested for 1000's of years!
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- Lime Plaster and Lime Renders have been used for 1000's of years to build and finish walls that last for generations. Follow us as we talk about the benefits, the cost, the tools and techniques, and everything you need to know to mix the perfect #limeplaster for #siding your home.
In an age of escalating building material costs, it's becoming unaffordable to build a new home. Unless you have the time to #doityourself and know how to make siding or plaster from raw materials that you can buy for cheap.
This video is all about lime plaster on a #strawbalehouse. - Jak na to + styl
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Bravo, I am a huge fan of lime plaster, maybe because i am from Italy ( Rome) . Cocciopesto and pozzolana were even common in roman time.
You deserve a heck of a lot more thumbs up!!! Thank you so much, you are a great teacher!!! Thank you thank you.
Thank you so much for explaining this process!❤
You’re welcome! Are you interested in plastering a home?
Thanks Gentleman the detailed information for Lime you served here are all very useful to needy ones
I'm glad I found your channel. Hard to find advice from professional builders doing strawbale systems who have a broad view of how buildings work
same, the amount of info online and is sometimes contradicting. My wife inherited an old family house, stone built, over a hundred years old, the house is fine but we leveled out a piece of land for a car park and built a wall around it for the garden to butt up against. in one of the storerooms I found 120kilos of powdered lime, so I'm looking into plastering the wall with that from the start.
Thank you for video!
Good luck!!!
Thank you man, this is quite helpful! Really appreciate the effort and detail you put into demonstrating this.
You’re welcome!
Great video! Thank you!
Great video, thank you for sharing the secrets! We are about to embark on our first lime plaster adventure here in France.
Thank u for really a helpful informa..
you're awesome bro, thanks for sharing all this beautiful knowledge
Once you open the lime plaster door.... you can’t go back. Ancient objects to the new Apple building , it’s such a secret in modern times
Well done and helpful
This is Exactly what I've been looking for! Thank you SO much. Subscribed.
P.S. You did a great job of explaining.
Thanks!
So interesting!! I've heard alot about lime plaster from Robert Crabtree's videos. Probably going to parge my basement walls with this stuff. Still in the education process. Thanks so much for your helpful info!! 🙂
What is parge?
Thanks so much for sharing your wonderful video!
Any advice on replacing vinyl siding with lime plaster?
Lime plaster is amazing stuff…who wouldn’t want their home encased in limestone?!! We are building with like here in SE AZ and are using it on our hyperadobe builds. Great video and info!
Thanks 🙏 have fun with your build. I’ll check you guys out.
Thanks alot amazing video
Thank you
Very good! Subscribed!
Thanks!
Thank you! Much appreciated.
Wow! I am super inpressed I live in the East Texas Region is there a difference for this type of climate and what kind of strae bails can I use here.I want to buikd my nest House this way for sure.
The foot coming out of the pet door at the end... LOL
Thanks for the excellent video. What about cracking due to temperature and humidity variations? I am in zone five, we get very cold and hot / humid. Is there a maximum distance that should be divided by a control joint? Old European buildings with stucco always seem to be broken up into segments.
Control joints are always a good idea! Put them vertically at window and door edges and that is probably enough.
Love your video ❤ thank you … BUT when the small child in the red coat walked by I got the shivers … it totally made me think of the movie “Don’t Look Now!” With Julie Christie and Donald Sutherland … highly recommend it. Scary!!!
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Excellent presentation,
Great teaching!
Curious: would you suggest using this finish on a cement dome?
I was going to ask the same question. We're building an aircrete dome and I'm looking for a waterproof but environmentally friendly cover/sealant
Question I have a 1970 barn that I’m turning into my home it has shiplap siding, but the inside is not finished yet all open to siding inside no housewrap What would you do? I feel like taking it off. Could break a lot of the wood. It’s a cedar barn.
Also, where do you suggest buying the lime putty? And what about pigment?
Hey! Not sure if you would know, but would it work to have the outer layer of a straw house be made out of brick? I am wondering what the logistics of building a house like this in an area with heavy snow as well as monsoon seasons. I think that the insulation and fire resistance of straw bale homes would be perfect where I live, but water resistance is very important as is pest prevention, and I'm wondering if even a brick wainscotting would help? Or would it stifle the natural breathing process of the house? To my understanding brick breathes pretty well.
Very nice. Looks a lot like mine. I start with quicklime. I do a shave & compress step using a wooden trowel on the final layer.
I’d be scared I would mess up the finish with a wooden trowel. Never tried that. Does that burnish the finish?
@@HeirloomBuilders It doesn't burnish. After the wooden trowel I use a clean steel trowel to go over it one last time.
@@metallitech Is your source for quicklime anywhere near Las Vegas or within a few hundred miles?
@@christinebaker3293 No, I'm in the UK.
@@metallitech Lucky you! Been learning so much from UK builders and love the many historic buildings.
Love it! We bought a property 2 years ago and we have a two floor - cement based - mid. '80 house and now I had an idea... Can cement based (non organic wall) be covered with lime coat?
Great video, thanks.
You may want to look into bonding agents that will help the lime adhere to the cement stucco. Or mix a little cement in with the first coat of lime (like bonds to like) 👍
@@HeirloomBuilders Thank you so much. Greetings from Serbia
@@HeirloomBuilders Wow! You just saved me a bunch of time and research- or more accurately, pointed me in the right research direction. I'm doing aircrete domes, and I wasn't satisfied with the stucco top coat idea. Many thanks!
@@B30pt87how did the lime plaster go on the aircrete? I'm thinking of doing the same
Well done video. I have a fiber cement siding and I am curious if I can just throw this up or do I need a mesh? The underneath of the siding is not even sheathed to my knowledge but it has water resistant wrap.
Is this a shed, or a house you’re talking about. You would need to add mesh Rainscreen and lath
Great work, I'm also plastering my strawbale house right now. What mix did you use in the other coats? What was the ratio of the materials. Thank you and keep up with this cool videos. Greeting from Portugal
I use the same ratio of 1 part lime putty to 3 parts sand for every coat. I make the first coat more wet than the final coats so that it doesn’t dry out before it has time to cure.
Thanks for the info. Looks great.
How thick is the plaster on the exterior?
1” thick on the outside. Thicker in some spots that needed fill.
Hi, your video is amazing thank you! Would this technique work on an earthbag dome exterior and interior? Meaning a structure that doesn’t has a roof and with the roundness?
Thank you again!!
Thank you. Yes it would, with the right prep work.
Hey Logan!
Love the channel and building philosophies. I’m building a red oak timber frame tree house, so I essentially have to do a 2x6 wall system (climate: northern Ontario, limited by sill plate size) otherwise I would do hempcrete or straw bale without a doubt.
Do you have any experience applying lime plaster to rough cut wood or osb sheathing? Or any other option ideas for both my exterior and interior applications?
Hey Matthew! If I were building in Ontario, I would build a 2x6 wall with 2-4” of exterior rock wool insulation, with a rain screen mesh on top and fiberglass lath on top of that to hold the lime plaster. If you use 4” of exterior insulation, you should look into z girts to attach the lath. Don’t apply lime plaster directly to rough cut wood or osb, unless that’s going to be on the interior, like old school wood lath and plaster interior wall finishes.
I would look into straw-clay system.
Happy to find your channel through homesteady
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Welcome aboard!
Question..... what is your experience in using “lime putty”, sand and water on rock retaining walls and rock built walls of old buildings? Would using a clay sand, straw or rice-hull mix base be better for insulation, a surface to build plaster putty on along with the insulative and breathability qualities?
We have loads of old rock-built cottages in Britain which were plastered inside and rendered outside in lime.
If you want to protect the outside, but keep the rock look, you can do what is called a "bagged finish", where you slop the render up, and instead of trowelling, they used to use old sacks to rub the finish down. It ends up showing the shape of the wall underneath. Just search for "lime bagged finish" and you'll see what I mean.
Hello, could we use the same lime plaster on cement wall? Thank you very much for your video and the tips!
As far as I know you can use lime plaster on cement. You will likely need a bonding agent though.
In the UK lime putty used to be made with burnt lime and not hydrated lime.
Do you screen the sand for the any of the coats? I've seen some people use a window screen or 1/4" hardware cloth.
Yes, you can see the 1/4” hardware cloth mounted on a wood frame we use to screen this sand for the exterior render. Interior plaster may need a finer 1/8” screen to get a smoother finish.
Grate video, where do you get the lime putty?
We got our lime putty from Adam’s products an old castle company. Any masonry supply store should be able to get it.
I like your presentation. I am building a new home with Perfect Block ICCF and am looking for a lost cost way to give the board and batten look. (Wife is set on Modern farmhouse). Steel siding is way out of this world in price, vinyl (will never use anyway) isn't that much cheaper than steel ( material cost). I am thinking maybe I can create a smooth surface with lime plaster and add some sort of battens??
Any thoughts, anyone?
Also, how is the paintability of the lime plaster being that the breathable aspect is not a concern here?
just my 2 cents: lime plaster is so gorgeous as is. It has such depth. Painting over it makes it look so one dimensional
Can you put lime plaster over fiber cement board?
Would steel framing work or is wood better for straw bail?
Edit: did some research, it's condensation, so you can if you cover them in wood. But how much support do the walls themselves need if the roof is fully supported by steel framing? Like if you leave the beams outside the walls, kinda like porch roof supports and then have the walls farther in with the wood to raise it off the concrete, wood at the top where it meats the roof, and wherever there are windows and doors. How much wooden support would the walls need? Also, can you make rounded walls?
Don't put lime directly onto steel though. It eats into it!
You need to use stainless steel or plastic fixings. So if you have a steel frame, have something between that and the lime.
Can you use this on a peir home in louisiana?
can you use this on green sip system OSB?
Do you do workshops? Would you ever do one in central Arkansas? (Asking for my future self, lol)
Can you put lime plaster over a stucco house? Can it be put on wood eaves in fire prone areas? When you put over your earthplaster house, dont need prep except water wall? Do you make your lime putty as seemed expensive (thought ~$11/50lb bag Hyd. lime). Very fun, like your helpers also ! How often will it need a recoat?
Could you explain spraying lime plaster compared to troweling on lime plaster? Thanks.
I’ve never tried to spray lime plaster, but I love the idea of being able to save time and likely getting a really strong bond. The limitations seem to be having the proper equipment and skilled troweling labor. Spraying would go so fast that you would need someone constantly mixing batches of lime so that you don’t get cold joints having to stop and mix more plaster ever tile you run out. Mixing with a professional mortar mixer would be essential.
I want to construct my home this year. I live in Mexicali. B.C. México. It's one of the most hottest cities in the world. But we have higher dosis of chloride in our water..I listen that lime works better if you use sea water, would you recommend it?
Thanks for the video, you did a great job. Can it be applied over painted walls? Cheers from Mexico
Probably not a good idea over paint without some kind of lime binder or heavy scratching of the painted surface to help it key in.
@@HeirloomBuilders thanks for replying! Have a great weekend
@@laurahinojosa2742 disfruta el fin de semana!
@@HeirloomBuilders wow!!! Gracias! Que gusto leerle en español
Subscribed! Can I use lime plaster instead of concrete for an underground dome home?
I’d have to see the design and circumstances, but probably not.
Wait,you say i make it at home?how to make marmorino for floor,or somethig similar?Thanx
Could I do this on a square log dovetail cabin ? The logs are about 6 inches thick, how would I apply this lime plaster onto the logs? There is cedar siding on it now
If the cedar is still good, keep it the way it is. Otherwise, you’ll need to add a vapor barrier like tyvek or tar paper, Rainscreen mesh or wood strips, lath and then plaster. Cedar siding is pretty great too.
Heirloom what your take on coloring wall, add pigments to the lime putty OR pigment in a watery slip and brush it on ?
I wish I had an opinion on this, but I don’t have enough experience with colors to help. I usually keep it natural.
@@HeirloomBuildersI guess it's going to have to be a live & learn test trial experiment thing, thanks anyway !
Sorry ... one more question :-) When I talk to people about the type of sand I need for hydrated lime there seems to be a lot of confusion out there. I called the local Mason supply company here in Portland, Oregon and they weren't sure what kind of sand should be used with hydrated lime. They have all different kinds of sand ... just weren't willing to tell me which is best. Also it comes in bags which is very expensive. I can pick up a pickup load of masons sand at my local landscaping supply company. Do you think that could work? Any input you may have on this subject would be much appreciated!
You definitely want the mason sand.
@@HeirloomBuilders : happen to know that beach sand is more rounded, mason's sand is more angular. Something more like crushed gravel as opposed to regular rounded river gravel.
@@garywheeler7039 do NoT use beach sand ever salt will destroy the wall
@@garywheeler7039you are rite beach sand is more rounded AND like mentioned above has salt that destroys walls, however another real reason to use masons sand is the angular cut of the sand lock in against each other preventing movement and slippage whereas particulates of rounded sand will move and slip n slide around each other ! Visualize smashing a case of bottles up into pea size pieces and putting them in a bucket, then try pushing a stick to the bottom of the bucket. The stick won't penetrate the glass because of the jagged edges locking together. If you fill bucket with round marbles the stick will slip thru the marbles all the way to the bottom of the bucket, same exact thing with round sand !
I'm building a Tiny Home, for long term parking not for travel. I wanted a stucco look but stucco is so heavy, will this have a simular weight?
Yes it will be just as heavy
@@HeirloomBuilders Thank you!!
How about using Diathonite plaster
Wyndmoor PA USA
I was watching and I thought about sharing something I know
darn, I don't post.......
anyway, adding ammonia will give you control for doing texture
you can make texture with the trowel and then wait 20 min then shave it with the edge of the trowel.
having bleached white sand will make you able to color it with special powder dye/pigment that is only for cement.
can you imagen a kinda dark blue rather than taupe beige color, or iron oxide on some areas
one more thing, about the grade of the sand, is it 0 or 1 that you are using ???
when I use to do my own mix 😉 30 years ago, I used 0 white bleached.
Those are good tips! Thanks for sharing. I don’t know what grade of sand, it’s fairly coarse mortar sand. I really do like the idea of adding some color, maybe even dark blue.
I'm building in six months and always wanted a lime plastered exterior. Can I lime plaster straight onto bricks? Thinking of using the usual cheaper brick commons used in similar rendering situations. Let me know if I'm over thinking it and I should just go with the brick (its easily available, lots of brickies about to lay them), trust the DIY lime plastering process with good prep, safety and good tools and it will work out fine. Thanks.
Seems fine to me, I would use commons of a textured brick if you can find them for better adhesion.
@@HeirloomBuilders yeah, we have 'scratched' commons too.
@@HeirloomBuilders oh and on cost, was that per coat? I saw you had your scratch coat on, so can I assume x 2? (regardless of AUD prices, seems way cheaper than paying renderer for modern day rendering job. And let's face it, it suits the house so much better and is healthier, nice energy gains etc. I'm building a mod barn style with 3 pavilions. A lime plastering finish will look divine - AND - not be like every other ' the norm' look modern render along the road!!!
@@MM-li8nk that cost is for three coats
@@HeirloomBuilders even better!
I might have missed it, but, few questions: 1. The white lime puty you used in the beginning, it is already "ready". Did you create it yourself, or bought something ready? and if so, how is the ready mix called?. 2. Can you take that white puty as it is and put it on the wall?, or you must mix it with sand and water as you did?, and what happens if you do put only the lime puty alone?. Thank you.
@@kookia213 the lime putty is created by mixing powdered type S lime putty and water. You have to mix lime putty with sand to give it strength and prevent it from shrinking and cracking.
Can I put it directly on wood siding, instead of vinyl siding?
Yes, with tar paper, a Rainscreen mesh and fiberglass/metal lath as your prep layers.
Can lime plaster be used to parge a cement block wall?
I think so, but I would add some cement in there to help it bind to the concrete block wall or add a bonding agent to make sure
What about using clay instead of sand.
Wyndmoor PA
Paul clay doesn't have to granular texture that the sharp edges of masonry sand has and locking into each other and clay would definitely dry hard but be a soft easy break & flake out. Rough edge sand is the way to go !
Hey Logan any updates?
Where do I get the material from ?
Where do you buy the lime putty from? I can't find it anywhere but online and shipping is expensive.
Adam’s products stocks hydrated lime. The are an old castle company that deals in concrete block and masonry products
You can also make your own lime putty by mix NHL lime powder into a paste and let it sit wet in a barrel for a few weeks (the longer the better), THEN using the 1/3 recipe used here ! Search making lime putty !
So after the third coat, how much was your average heating and cooling? I know it might be hard to figure if you are using solar, so you could do it in kwh per day.
But how exactly are you heating and cooling would be useful information.
We heat with wood and can leave for a couple days when it’s below freezing and come back to a house that is still 60 deg F. The thermal mass really holds the temps. Same in the summer. All the thermal mass of the plaster holds the average temp while the hot summer sun is baking near 100
Deg F outside and the house only hits the low 80’s for about an hour in the early evening before the sun goes down and the cooling starts happening again.
@@HeirloomBuilders OK thanks for your reply. How many cords of wood do you use in the winter?
@@jasonbourne1596 we use 1.5-2 cords of wood per year
@@HeirloomBuilders Thanks
Question. Do you apply exterior paint on top of the lime plaster? is it ok ?
I would not apply paint to the exterior. It is very weather resistant all by itself
You could limewash it, if you want a color change or a different finish.
@@andrewsackville-west1609Andrew couldn't you mix pigment to desired color into the lime putty when mixing with sand almost like using cement pigments ?
Why is there that wavy line closer to the top that looks like a big crack or change in material?
It’s the original lime plaster with clay render beneath that was still strong and was not removed during the repair process
Will this withstand hairline cracks when a nail is hammered into that wall?
It’s best to pre drill a pilot hole to prevent cracking
I have a moble how can I save it the exterior walls are shot
Do you need line putty or can you also use clay?
You can use clay, but it won’t hold up to rain very well
@@HeirloomBuilders clay is water soluble, lime after it has been hardened by exposure to CO2 becomes more like stone.
Does this stick to raw adobe walls?
How much water is the mix of 1 Part Lime, 3 parts Sand?
Depends on how wet the sand is. I would say start with a 1/2 part water and add more until you get somewhere between a thick pancake batter consistency and toothpaste
I am building a tiny house
Can i put this on wood?
Yes, but you’ll need 2 weather resistive membranes and a rain screen and lath under the plaster
can you get this type of lime at lowes or HD?
Not in my area. We have to go to a masonry supply store.
@@HeirloomBuilders thanks! i'm in Hickory and i can't seem to find any, suggestions for supply stores?
Jake I've seen NHL powdered lime bags at my local HD here in CO. Now I'm not sure if it was extra leftovers from a special order but maybe hit up the contractors desk and see if they order it up for you ! Now that would consist of you having to whip up your own lime putty, plenty of tutorials for making lime putty, THEN mixing your own putty into a plaster with sand !
Thanks for the video. Lime is not carbon neutral. Yes it the Co2 that is driven off in the firing eventually ends up back in the stone, but tons of sequestered Co2 is released from the fuel used to drive off the Co2.
Who gives a shit?
How is it both breathable and air stopping? I thought those two things were mutually exclusive
Think air tight, but vapor permeable. Moisture can migrate through materials that air cannot.
@@HeirloomBuilders
Aww I get it now for some reason I thought air is both cases. Although I didn't know there was materials that would let water through but not air I thought you need some kind of valve or something. Thank you for responding and have a wonderful day.
@@HeirloomBuilders
Is there any videos of yours that you would recommend for building a homestead in Alaska? I'm looking to have greenhouses and raised chickens so I can be self-sufficient and off-grid but I'm just getting into this and would love some guidance.
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Can I put this over and old retaining wall that has concrete mortar?
Probably so. I would recommend a mix of lime with some Portland cement or a binding agent to help the binding to existing mortar
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@3:50 your ratio is 27:1, I think that was supposed to be a cubic yard of putty
You’re right. I wish I could edit that. Good eye
is type -s lyme the same as the putty
Yes
@@HeirloomBuilders After doing EXTENSIVE research, it's NOT the same. Type S is prohibited for restoration in UK because it's too hard, damages stones and brick and causes WET MOLDY buildings. Highly processed too.
Can you use type N lime, not as ridge as type S !
Can you put it on wood
The materials might be cheaper but the labor is very expensive.
Since earthen plaster and lime plaster take up/let out air at different rates, these two plasters in their pure forms should not be paired, so I understand. So I ASK: did you keep eathern plaster under your lime, or did you take the earthen off?
We scraped it off until we got down to the slip coat of clay that was directly applied to the bale walls.
@@HeirloomBuilders Thanks! I would be glad to know how your new lime exteriors hold up over time, any issues delaminating from the clay slit coat you mention... hope not, those walls are stunning.
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Sand, cement, lime(hydr.), usual process, - no? Others? Ah-Wood
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I love working with lime, but the notion that it is carbon neutral is absurd. The amount of energy needed to burn limestone in a kiln far exceeds the CO2 that it will reabsorb, and this doesn't even take into account the energy needed to dig it out of the ground and transport it. My father was a project manager in a limestone quarry and worked there for many decades. The co2 they produced was off the scale.
Good to know.
More than the CO² produced when making cement ?
@@eugeniotapia6765 Not as far as I know, but the difference isn't vast. Cement is just hydraulic forms of lime that is burned at a higher temperature and has a small amount of gypsum added to it. It has some advantages over lime mortars/cements/renders and some disadvantages. It depends on the situation and what you need.
But the idea that lime is an eco friendly building option simply doesn't make sense. It's better than cement but still needs a lot of CO2 to produce, far more than it will reabsorb.
How can this be Cheap, when lime isn't cheap ?
In my experience, lime is cheaper than other prefabricated siding materials.
... and almost every video I watched is the same. They say what they use, but not how it's made. I get that you use lime putty, but how do you make it? Lime and water? What is the ratio?
Sorry, but all the videos I watch, everybody is super enthoustiastic, but at the end, they let you hanging with the products/ratio they use. I only watched a dozen videos, so maybe in the next dozen I will find some ratios.
Tomas you can make your own lime putty (which I prefer) as opposed to buying premade putty. I can't give you a specific ratio w/L recipe but carefully make it/mix it powdered NHL with water in a 55gal. barrel until it's a tooth paste consistency and let paste set wet in barrel for at least three weeks. Keep water over the top of the paste and don't let it exposed to air as it will return to rock hard sandstone again ! THEN that is the putty mix you'd use with the 1to3 sand for the plaster. Basically you have to mix up two diff batches, one lime powder into putty THEN putty and sand into plaster ! It's like making pancake batter for the first time, just gotta play with the water/powder ratio till you get it rite (don't want it as thin as pancake batter tho)!
A cubic foot of lime putty costs you $540? Seriously?? I can make 2.5 from a $20 bag of lime powder.
Cubic yard! 27 cubic feet
Okay... Glad to see this comment. I was thinking "no way is a cubic foot enough pretty for 3 yards of sand!" Obviously, it's a yard not a foot 😂.
The list of people that give a fuck If lime putty is carbon neutral is probably comically long
The entire time you're talking I'm thinking about all the mud and puddles your child is making for you
Hahaha
You talk too much my friend
Carbon neutral doesn’t matter to me.