The Longhorn: a Turntable Cartridge Mod

Sdílet
Vložit
  • čas přidán 6. 07. 2018
  • It has been called "the greatest upgrade you can do for your table at any price," and has been passed on from audiophile to audiophile from it's invention in 1982 by Frank Van Alstine and Robert Nielsen. In this video we'll build a Longhorn for my Grado Black and listen to a comparison video. Is the hype founded or is it another example of being audio-fooled?
    Here is a link to the original article by Frank Van Alstine (is in the 1982 file on page 8): avahifi.com/pages/audio-basic...
    Music in this video from: www.bensound.com
  • Hudba

Komentáře • 33

  • @dixielandfarm
    @dixielandfarm Před 6 lety +8

    At the resolution I am at on YT, I heard no discernable difference. For the potential of scratching a record with a large metal piece just hanging out, I think I will stick with stock.

  • @carlpaulsen3996
    @carlpaulsen3996 Před 2 lety +1

    I did hear a slight difference that I would say is an improvement with the longhorn. But... Did you try a third mod by simply adding weight to a non-longhorned version? You're adding mass with the longhorn, and mass can affect performance considerably. In order to know if it's the longhorn specifically or the added mass you really should test that approach.

  • @fullblastman
    @fullblastman Před 5 lety +1

    I can see where this has merit (the tightrope bicyclist with long balancing arm to help to keep the pivot more stable and probably somewhat damped in the front! I get it!

  • @leon9021
    @leon9021 Před 6 lety +3

    Couldnt really pick a clear difference out other than that the upgraded recording might be slightly louder or dynamic on the vocals. When blindfolded I though I found when you switched but the point I guessed on was just slightly after the switch, on the C of "He'll replace you".
    If there is a difference its impossible to say if its because of the upgrade or simply increasing the mass of the tonearm though.

    • @Audiorpheus_Vinyl
      @Audiorpheus_Vinyl  Před 6 lety +2

      Haha. It isn’t as big of a difference as people have made it seem. Though there is bass improvement and a clearer upper range, everything is just a bit more tight. When I recorded the longhorn I though « wow! This is incredible! » but then when you compare it back to the original it isn’t so. Our brain and ears are tricksy.

    • @leon9021
      @leon9021 Před 6 lety +1

      Audiorpheus Hey man, its what some of the audio industry lives on, the power of expectation.
      P.S Switching to speakers didnt do any difference, still near impossible for me to detect the switching point.

    • @polardeathdog5093
      @polardeathdog5093 Před 6 lety

      it's so dumb.

    • @vinniemorciglio4632
      @vinniemorciglio4632 Před 6 lety +1

      Some people say the Stabilizer Brush on the Shure is done for similar reasons. I have seen people say they hear improvements, as well as better traceability. Maybe the Longhorn is in a similar vein.

    • @tool_fighter
      @tool_fighter Před 4 lety +1

      @@vinniemorciglio4632 Stanton, too.

  • @Bandit400VC
    @Bandit400VC Před 6 lety +1

    How much is the extra weight of the longhorn??
    The grado black is a good cartridge but not for high expectations! The Silver/Gild and the Signature bodies are much more better! There i could hear real difference between the stock grado stylus and the EposLab stylus!

  • @jerryprasetyo9653
    @jerryprasetyo9653 Před 6 lety

    I think sound is more open, no tend to bright but lvocals dynamic not boring anymore

  • @zackmc1234
    @zackmc1234 Před 6 lety

    Interesting.... would you be willing to make one I could purchase?

    • @Audiorpheus_Vinyl
      @Audiorpheus_Vinyl  Před 6 lety

      Oh yeah for sure. I’d love the second opinion. Email me: audiorpheus at gmail

    • @bagadonutz8066
      @bagadonutz8066 Před 5 lety

      AVA actually sells a Grado Gold with this mod on their website.

    • @pinkmagnolia921
      @pinkmagnolia921 Před 3 lety

      I'd love to try one, too!

  • @donunus
    @donunus Před 5 lety +3

    Not a big sonic change here. That ugly thing isn't beating a 2500 dollar cart when the difference between the stock is negligible.

    • @donunus
      @donunus Před 5 lety

      I don't like it getting ever so slightly leaner as well.

  • @MissPalorte
    @MissPalorte Před 2 lety

    Can anybody explain why this works? The principles at work?
    Will it work just like an aluminium foil head cap? 😊

  • @marcjackson995
    @marcjackson995 Před 5 lety

    How does such a roughly crafted add-on effect anti-skating as one side has more weight than the other?
    What next moulded dog turds as counter-weights?

  • @leonlong7537
    @leonlong7537 Před 4 lety

    my comments seem to appear then disappear. another mod, the drive motor was screwed to plate, the plate was screwed to the plastic base/ box.i wanted to isolate the motor, i put rubber between the plate and the box/base and the screw and the steel plate, then the screws holding motor and between the motor tabs and the plate. next i put a 1/4 inch of silicone on the inside of the base/box. i wanted to put rubber around the hinges of the dust cover but was unable to.the test outcome showed, it was unnecessary.if you keep your turntable in a heavy cabinet with a door this mod is unnecessary. another is to buy a cement patio tile as big as your turntable, and a piece of high pile carpet, place it upside down under the patio tile. dust; i keep the clear plastic turntable cover closed and i use orick air cleaner to keep the dust down.once you clean the orick you will realize how good they are!

  • @geoffvdw
    @geoffvdw Před 6 lety +6

    makes no difference. a heavier headshell would do the same thing with less effort

  • @buckoff4162
    @buckoff4162 Před 2 lety

    I have an original Van Alstine Longhorn ands I love it but I haven gone down the MC Plath now and it’s for sale if anyone is interested

  • @josephfuller7008
    @josephfuller7008 Před 3 lety

    The longhorn is much better in my opinion. Vocals and top end on the stock version are hashy. The longhorn.cleans all of that up. There are people who don’t choose to listen even reasonably closely and then bash results too bad for them. Also for the person who doubts the longhorn beat the Koetsu have you heard both? I have been stunned by listening to a 5600 cartridge a 2900 cartridge and a 1000 cartridge and have the 2900 cartridge come out on top followed closely by the 1000 cartridge. The cartridge world is a scary one. There are some unbelievably good budget cartridges out there.

  • @longde
    @longde Před rokem

    I thank you for the well explained steps in making a longhorn. This is a mod that is good for any cartridge since it focuses the mass of the tonearm back where it is more useful (near the stylus). However i can't help but think that the sound quality of your turntable is very poor, with or without longhorn. Really.

  • @manFromPeterborough
    @manFromPeterborough Před 5 lety +3

    Snake oil

  • @undress62
    @undress62 Před 3 lety

    I was interested until he says that it outplayed a Koetsu black. 😂

  • @polardeathdog5093
    @polardeathdog5093 Před 6 lety +1

    File under extremely limited audience comedy.

  • @HHTTRRNN
    @HHTTRRNN Před rokem

    Not a huge difference form what I hear. Maybe a tad less harsh or "confused" sounding.

  • @OGSERB
    @OGSERB Před 4 lety

    Nope

  • @yvanflodin
    @yvanflodin Před rokem

    the time and money wasted by audiophiles could save the world. what a pile of bs