Restoring a Vintage Army Tirfor Winch and Pulling over Trees leaning towards the House
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- čas přidán 28. 12. 2023
- I was given this broken Tirfor TU-16 winch in pieces, the owner pulled it apart and couldn't fix it.
After making a new guide roller, straightening the bent housing and giving it a good clean, it works like new. Should be good for another 50 years.. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Petition for Marty to get a much bigger ultrasonic cleaner!
Preferably by finding it in the bush and then fixing it up
Nice one Marty. Have been a big fan of the tirfor hand winch ever since we pulled a Army Land Rover out of creek in five foot of water and mud away back in 1980.The anchor point was at 90 degrees to the vehicle but it pulled it around and out no sweat. Thanks for the video Mate
And a bigger toothbrush 😂
I think he will find an old cast iron bathtub and lid along with making the electronic gizmo made out of old microwaves … and shopping baskets for parts dipping. Shouldn’t take more than a couple hours.😊
@@brianelliot2719 If anyone can do it "THE MIGHTY MARTY T" can..🤣🤣There's not much he can't do.!!!
In the 70s I used these big tirfors to extricate trucks, 4x4 s and tree stumps in the Australian outback. They are incredibly powerful to the point of breaking steel cabling. You’re lucky finding one of the old models. Great job. 🇦🇺👏😁
I still have the one I used in my forestry business here in the UK back in the 1980s.
If I'm out deer stalking in rough country, it's in the back of the truck & has pulled myself & others out of some pretty sticky holes.
The best way to teach somebody not to get stuck is to hand them a Tirfor and make them extract the vehicle themselves!
It was a throw back to "Gods must be Crazy" when the Jeep was winching up into tree.
Nothing better than hearing rain on the roof as you work in the shop. Very satisfying!
I was waiting for Marty to shout, "Done, Drill Sargeant!" like those Army boot camp movies where they're cleaning their rifles. 😅
It did sound like a No4 Mk1 didn't it!!
Those Tirfor winches are great, I used to use one in my younger days.
The three pins holding the pulling lever are shear pins and are designed to split if you pull something greater than the capacity of the winch so you don't damage it. Always handy to keep a few spare ones.
Silver Steel was the (very un-Health & Safety Executive) answer
The extra shear pins are kept inside the round hollow handle, usually has a plastic cap on it.
Thanks for sharing that knowledge
Mans ingenuity in conceiving, designing, perfecting, and producing the many, many things which surround us, both useful and beautiful, simply astounds me.
I'm in awe of all the tree ferns. Cracking view.
By watching this video I discovered of myself I don't even have to care about what he's working on Marty seems like such a good dude I'll watch his videos even if the equipment doesn't have an interest to me
To many levers and springs for some one like me to take apart, clean up and put to gather. So well done Marty
That's why one videos it to allow reassembly after the memory of disassembly expires
Nice salvage, handy winch to have in the maintenance arsenal of tools available. Thanks for the video young man, I enjoyed it and appreciate your taking the time to post it.
You got yourself a very useful piece of equipment there, Marty! In the US they call these winches come along, for obvious reasons. BTW thx for all the fascinating videos and keep surprising us in the new year!
In Australia we tell our wenches to come along.
Tirfor was the Manufacturer of these come alongs.
@@lowtech_1It's not a come-along. Those are completely different.
@@lowtech_1 It was in 1941 that Tractel invented the Tirfor winch, a traction and lifting device with a continuous wire rope. The Tirfor winch was a revolution in its day.
Since then, Tractel has constantly improved its operation, registering numerous patents and maintaining a high level of quality and endurance, enabling this winch to be used in a wide range of industrial applications.
Commercial from the manufacturer
tirfor (in French means "pull hard" tire fort)
@@JHruby It does the same job you would use a come along for, but it's much nicer.
This channel always has an irresistible pull to it.
You have taken me back to the 1960s/70s when we used Tirfors to install the equipment trailer behind Tunnel Boring Machines, the trailer were mounted on rail track and we'd pull them in from the pit bottom and couple them up. Each would have a conveyor belt to carry the excavated muck out to rail cars. Underneath would electrical cabinets, compressed air compressors, cable storage bins etc. No forgetting a small mess room to grab a cuppa in the shift.
Large Tirfors would be used to load cranes etc. onto low loader trucks, smaller ones as tie downs together with chains and toggles.
Steel shutters would be used as a form to line rock shafts with reinforced concrete. The form hung on maybe 6 Tirfors with a safety drop chain.
A very versatile tool but do keep an eye for cable wear at the used end.
Thanks for posting
Great bits of kit, those style winches. Extremely capable and actually safe to have people hanging from. The original steel 'cage' that the rope was stored in was a right pain for catching on everything in sight. It is much easier to store your steel wire rope in a worn out road bike rear tyre.
13:00 had flashbacks to ‘The Gods must be Crazy’. New Zealand has weird friut on its trees.
Same !
in the 80s, my tirfor used to permanently lie on the back of the recovery truck, but one dark night, i needed it to winch a car on, 6 pumps, then BANG, it exploded + i lost the car...
all the casing bolts had rattled out over time, me being too young + daft to notice this each day for 3yrs. got a new fangled electric winch to replace it, YAHOO... [never a fan of slow, hard work on a recovery] all the best for new year young man
This takes me back to my Pioneer course back in the mid-90s when I was still in the Army. We had 2 types one might have been this one and the other was a T-35 from memory. We used them to make aerial ropeways (Army for flying fox) to be able to transfer stores, equipment and personnel across obstacles. We did it with telephone poles as the gin and shears to suspend it from. Key life lesson, never be the first guy to test the line as it always goes a lot faster than planned. The rover tires spaces over the line at the end are designed to slow down and cushion stores and equipment but offer bugger-all cushioning to people. We also used them for vehicle recovery
The old Tirfor Winch
As a RNZE combat engineer, I spent a lot of time lugging that bit of kit around, along with its handle and the wire rope with attached hook, coiled onto its steel cage.
Hi tech in its day and built the last.
Perfect for dragging a Bailey bridge or MGB across a gap.
Massive Respect
😀👍🏼
Be Kind
As we did in the RAE
As did we in the Royal engineers 1974 to 1989
@@robertwalmsley755
I was also in the RE, in 1990 579 EOD SQN.
I always. As a lifelong mechanic,the logic you apply to every single thing. !!
Brought back a few memories - Used them a lot on the power-board in the 60's when we had to pole and erect subs cross country
They work great I tore mine apart to clean and grease used it to help people with trees leaning towards homes we had two at work to pull modular home on to basements .You need to get a unit to run your cable through so your not in the way of the tree .Well done sir Marty thank you for sharing
LoL Marty hangs jeeps off his Christmas tree instead of baubles 🤣
Thanks for all your great videos this year Marty all the best for you and your family next year! 😂❤
Had this exact model! When I was a member of the Canterbury Landrover Owner's Club this was a common winch used for recovery. This was the days when electric winches mounted on the front of vehicles was VERY exotic and fancy! I've buried many a spare tyre and used the TU-16 for recovery! Good memories!
I have one in the shed. For 20 years it was my go-to if I got stuck... it made me a much better driver as if you were foolish enough to get yourself stuck, then you had to do penance for the sin.
Wonderful things Turfors! I had mine out yesterday to drag some Shipping containers around.
I bought mine new about 50 years ago. Was interested to see what's inside. Thanks Marty.
Dear Marty T.
👍👌👏 Very well done again and as always (video and work)! Thanks a lot for making teaching explaining recording editing uploading and sharing.
Best regards luck and especially health to all of you.
Wishing you and your family all the best in 2024
Move to USA - we need intelligent people like you brother!!!!!
As Marty wipes down the toothbrush and gently places it back in the bathroom before his wife misses it and wonders where her toothbrush is 😉 another great video thank you
14:23 What an amazing, almost prehistoric rainforest! NZ is gorgeous!
👍🙏😇❤GREAT video MARTY!!!
I found one of these on the roadside yesterday, no cable though. Without the videos you made on these I would not have known what it was. But under the first rule of scavenging I snapped it up. I hope it cleans up nicely and now I have some idea of how it works inside.
Thanks Marty.
I call it "shopping at La Strada". You can buy heaps of amazing stuff there.
Your biggest expense will be the correct type of wire rope...
You need a solid wire core rope...
not a wire rope wound round a rope/fibre core as most wire ropes are wound.
The fibre core compresses under the pressure of the jaws...and can lead to slipping jaws...danger!
The wire cored rope does not compress.....so the jaws retain their grip at all times.
Always very interesting Marty thanks for sharing 🦘
Very cool tool and thanks for showing us the extensive cleaning which most of us may not have ever seen before.
Hi Marty, yes handy bit of kit the old Tirfor, used many a one in my working days, adaptable in all sorts of ways. Many thanks from UK.
They used to be standard issue on the fire engines in the UK fire service. We used them on road accidents, animal rescues, etc. They can pull 2.5 tons.
We borrowed one from the stores 40 years ago, used it to pull a telegraph pole back upright after it had snapped off at ground level. No training, none expected, we used it and got the job done. Well done restoring that one Marty, very useful tool.
I have a tirfor which hanging from my 18 wheeler at all times here in America. Used it once when I hit black ice and had to pull myself out of a rut
With Marty’s videos it feels like I can smell the metal and oil through the video. Love it, makes me feel like I’m in my workshop even tho I’m not 😂
Seasons Greetings to you and your family, Marty. Cheers from Sweden!
Liked the video. I am doing sort of the same thing you are doing, I am thinning a few trees on my overgrown Xmas tree farm, so the trees left will have more sunlight and water. Been using snatch block pully & wire rope w/a TO-30 Ferguson tractor to fall the 50-60' Fir trees in direction I want so they are easier to skid out . Thanks for the watch.
Hi Marty, it was good to see the managing director coming out to make sure you’re doing the right thing and the chickens. keeping a eye on you , Cliff from over the ditch at Logan city, Queensland, Australia 🇦🇺👨🏻🦽
It always amazes me that someone sat down and designed these things, probably had to re-design many times and then finally it just works as it was supposed to do, then Marty gets it all broken and makes it work again, magic.
I realy enjoy your work/ videos.. dogs and children and all ..
I bought one of those come alongs back in 1968 when I got my first Jeep. It’s still working like new and is a great piece of equipment to have. Those ultrasonic cleaners sure come in handy. I use mine more than my old parts cleaner. Good video
Marty and Family ! Wish you ALL THE BEST, -From Bermuda 32N64W.
Nice one mart brilliant bit of old Kit saved by the wizard of engineering
Good work reviving a useful tool.
I have the same Tirfor- device and I use it when cutting trees . Greetings from Finland.
thank you very much for good entertainment. 🤗👍🤗🇸🇯
Ex Army dude here, the most brilliant manual winch ever invented, you can honestly crush a house using these. Slight issue is over oiling, thats just a sand and grit magnet. Running them with the lightest touch of lube works well. They stand the test of time now and will in a hundred years.
I use this Tirfor and have it's baby brother. too with the wire cage .My word they are good for pulling shrubs and small trees out if you have a decent anchor point .
I got a branch hooked up in a conifer one day and didn't realise until it sprang off ,hit me in the head and knocked me to the ground. Have you ever seen those cartoon characters with the bruise growing when they get bashed ,well it was just like that.
That taught me a lesson that day to wear a hard hat as thought my day had come ..
Another great video from the Wizard. ❤
It's a lovely bit of engineering and well worth the trouble you took to put it back in service. That's why I watch this channel.
Thank you Marty. I wish I had a winch like that. So handy in the bush.😅
Awesome that you did this with minimal tools. Proof that you can do almost anything with a hammer & screwdriver (and a lathe always helps!). Great job!
Didn’t need to be thrown away , just needed to thrown towards Marty T . Good Job Marty , 🎉Cheers !
A very clean revision of the winch. It will definitely run again for years. You can hang your life on these things. When we were assembling the escalators in the shopping centers, we climbed up them and hung on them like monkeys under the roof and pulled the rope up again and changed the direction of pull. Those were the days...unimaginable given today's occupational health and safety requirements. It would be better to use grease instead of oil for such a total overhaul. Under no circumstances should you lubricate the plastic rollers with normal oil. This sticks together and causes the roll to block after a while. There is the same gooey mass as ON the rollers, which was clearly visible during disassembly. That's why use grease instead of oil, as it doesn't run onto and into the plastic rolls after a while. And another great and very interesting CZcams film.
I found the manual online, it says to use plenty of gear oil and never to use grease or lithium
@@MartyTIn my years of experience with elevator doors, never apply oil or grease to plastic rollers! If they write in the operating instructions to use enough oil, then it is certainly not harmful and should be followed. We only applied oil to both rope insertion holes when it stopped pulling. Then things ran smoothly again. I have also temporarily overhauled such winches, this is a special grease for such gearboxes. You can tell the age of these winches, the new ones are much simpler. This was a good revision of the winch - very interesting to watch.
Good restoration and will definetly be a good new tool for you! I like that the inspector came by with his popcycle to check your work!
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Happy New Year Marty! Good to see the family keeping an eye on you in parts.. look forward to many fascinating videos in 2024! Les in UK 🇬🇧
Great video Marty. I got to say that putting a ladder on the tree freaked me out as a good friend of mine is now paralyzed from a ladder and tree incident. Be safe.
This episode was so good. Unexpected restoration item, cruisy, wholesome, useful.
Wow! I have one of those and will now attempt to restore knowing how powerful it is! It will be a real asset on our farm! Thanks for filming that!
Your videos are always so interesting. I've never seen a winch like that before. Thanks Mate.
You always give good content on your site 🎉
Marty fixes a winch. I just knew once he got the drum, he could pull it together.
The Tirfors are incedible reliable tools. You need to use special steel cables, but then they are absolutely save.
The original instruction says "oil generously", "too much oil never harms".
I just spent 7:53 minutes watching YOUR video and I had cup of coffee too! WELL PLAYED YOUNG JEDI, WELL PLAYED INDEED!!!!
Amazing how well those four little nylon rollers work to keep the mechanism sliding in the split-case. I can see how an annual bath in some mineral spirits can remove the sand, gunk and grit from the internals.
Cute little tirfor. Never saw them in the army. They had them apparently. Discovered them in Building construction where we used 20 ton models that used a 1" or 1 1/4" cable . We were able to pull the big steel into position with them, when a footer was laid fractionally incorrect. Those ones would pull a D4 bulldozer up your tree, but they were riveted together and no way to service them really. Also had to keep them clean and dry!
Your daughter is really growing up! She's starting to look a lot like Jeanine now. It's fun watching your videos and seeing your family interaction.
That thing is a beast! I reckon it'd pull just about anything that was stuck! Nice score!
I have a couple of Tirfor winches, they are fantastic manual tools, use them for tree work and dragging stuff on and off trailers. Thanks for the look inside.
Now you have two of them! Sweet!
Marty I had a flashback when you started winching your jeep up the tree. I reembered a hilarious part of the movie" the gods must be crazy" when the fellow's jeep gets accidently winched up a tree. Thought for a moment maybe your winch would get stuck in the pull position and you would say "bugger" and tell us the next video would be you getting the jeep back down off the tree. 🙃🙃😊
Good rainy day job
The 1.6 is a safe working load for lifting , it will pull way more . The shear pins in the handle will give at about 2.3 to 2.8 tons if they are the proper brass ones .
Wonderful restoration work Marty.
One of my favorite year-end tasks at work is pulling the griphoists apart and cleaning them. ~10 years and they still haven't needed any replacement parts other than hundreds and hundreds of shear pins.
Looks like an exceptional piece of equipment. Much like a "Handy-Man" (HighLift) jack for those long-distance pulls!! Great video! You always have something different to show us. Love watching your channel!!
A great piece of kit. Used them for years in my early time in the Fire Service. Even when it surpassed by all the hydraulic gear it was always good to have something you knew would work when the new Gucci kit clapped out. Almost fireman prop as well....almost.. 😁
Tem-ber MartyT, ur Army Tirfor Winch is a beast at pulling down trees. great job..
Thanks for bringing us along while you work in paradise. Happy New Year 🥳🎉
I call my Tirfor the Inch Winch. Very slow but they really do the job. I use a 5t strop around the anchor tree to spread the load. Chain can damage some trees under heavy load but you can use brash or offcuts to cushion it if needed.
Some nice firewood in those Kanukas, Marty.
I understand the mechanical advantage that gears give but I was impressed how much the front of that little jeep would rise for each single pump on the handle and with just one hand. Impressive little winch.
I have used various size tirfors and even an electric tirak off & on for the last 40+ years. Truly excellent bit of kit. Better than bumper winch (imo) for road, plus boats, trees & felling, installing heavy stuff, all sorts...
Don't get the cables wetor dirty and avoid kinks. Keep the fused end in good nick too. Enjoy! 👍🏻
Pretty cool that it is double acting, both swings create effort.
Love that scenery
Great how the family gathers around with popcorn to watch the show lol.
Another great instructional rebuild of a traditionally tool, we used those in the "Civil Defence" unit 60 years ago in the west Island. Happy New Year to you and Jeanine and the kids. I trust the world is kind to you all.
Hi Marty, I really enjoyed this video. Really enjoyed how you tore it down. . then cleaned it up. Glad to see how you put it back together. Looks like a new one. Great job pulling those trees down. Thanks for sharing. Always looking forward to your next adventure.😊
Boy do you have some nice tree ferns at the back there. On the video I'd say the usual. That is: a welcome calm and interesting time that I wait for always.
Apparently there are some very rare tree ferns there
They looked to be either Wheke Ponga or Mamaku.
Great job as always, Marty. On a whim I looked up what the equivalent is going for now; $2200 US with used somewhere from $300 on up. You're the master!
Good fix. Handy tool.
What a great fix! Very useful tool that winch is going to be for ya. Yea those leaning trees are a pest. Glad to see you was able to get them before they get your house.
Tirfor 16 best hand operated cable winch going. Rated, as you said rated for 1600kgs dead lift, 2500kgs horizontal pull. Got me out many a bog and up rock ledges. Still going strong. Cheers
I Think I've watched this one before, but had to watch again. A very complicated little so and so. Love it. Happy New Year to you and your Family.
I fixed a similar winch a few years ago, this one is bigger
rite call with ultrasonic! I think you should take out about 100 trees - space for yard, garden etc maybe do a solar array, maybe plants a few trees or do a small orchard etc the winch makes taking down older rotten trees much safer, good info on the piano hinge - all round good content with this one
Nice repair. Now I want to see the garden you build. Thanks for the video. 👍👍👍
Quite a surprising performer for a winch that only has a friction hold on the cable.