Jennifer Fulwiler: "How I Found Truth as an Atheist" | SEEK2019
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- čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
- Jennifer Fulwiler was a happy atheist all her life until an unexpected journey led her into the Catholic Church. In this talk, she weaves personal stories with intellectual arguments to explain how God shook up her life.
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Awesome story! Before i came home, my life had little islands of "the warm thrill of confusion", fun and excitement, in a sea of darkness and despair. After returning to the Catholic faith, my life now has the opposite: a sea of limitless direction, purpose, and peace, despite little islands of sadness here and there.
Wow I really like that analogy ☺️
@@sheylamercado9801 Thx, I have to give credit to GK Chesterton. It's a paraphrase of something he says in Orthodoxy, but it's so true.
We converts simply figured out that the Bible (the NT) is a book about The Church. Protestantism however is merely a church about a book.
@Finance Simply Explained With the exception of the 4 Gospels (and probably Jude & Revelation), the entire rest of the New Testament - from Acts through 3 John - is concerned almost exclusively with the creation of the Church: What is the Church? How does one become a Christian, and what do Christians believe? Therefore, The Bible (in specific, The New Testament) is a book about the formation and the ways of being in The Catholic Church and predates The Catholic Church. Because the Protestant faiths hold The Bible to be superior to the Church, theirs is a Church about the Bible rather than seeing the Bible as being a book about The Church.
@Finance Simply Explained Protestants do not adhere to Confession which is odd considering how prominent a place The Bible holds for them. In John 20:22-23, Jesus highly emphasized one essential aspect of the priestly ministry of the apostles: To Forgive men’s sins in the person of Christ- _”Whose sins you forgive, they are forgiven, whose sins you retain are retained.”_ implied here is the need for either a verbal or written confession since the only way the apostles could either forgive or retain sins is by first hearing those sins confessed, and then making a judgment. As for the rest of the teachings you mentioned, an even cursory reading of Matthew 16:18-19 will make clear the basis of the matter.
Yep. Theyve made an idol out of the Bible, which is ironic if you think about it.
I am from Australia. Thanks for posting all these wonderful talks on CZcams. I hope I could be there in person one time.
It's not a conclusion you come to, it's more like falling in love... Exactly!
So glad you came home, Jen.
Thank you for your speech sister. I see a lot of hate comment but they dont compare to those who were converted . Keep spreading the good news!
thank you for your testimony Jennifer!! God bless ya and every on here!!😆✌💖
You are very lucky Jennifer. I'm lucky too. My cup overflows.
As someone who was raised Roman Catholic in my family, yet my school forces this religion into my interests, this has to be relatable. This talk just makes me so glad that its relatable and understandable/
Wonderful talk :) I'm a convert to Catholicism too (but from what I consider a secular Protestant background -- raised to not REALLY believe in any of it as objectively true, but still to have some cultural awareness of one protestant interpretation of Christianity). Actually really eye-opening at 24:00 when you say you were a college-educated atheist who didn't know the difference between the Old and New Testament. I sometimes forget how much background knowledge I take for granted, that other people literally don't know. I sometimes assume even in a post-Christian society, that cultural heritage still keeps people with some basic common reference points -- but I guess not.
Too bad you didn't get an education.
Thank you so much for your talk. You're awesome!
I'm loving it. Hail Cristo Rey
So much of this is so relatable to me.
Mindblowingly beautiful. 🤓🔥✝️
She needs her own christian comedy channel
Nice job mom! :3
The atheist trolls are busy here. Your talk is great!!
Really amazing, how upset they are when one of theirs leaves. I heard it summed up recently - Atheism has two tenets: 1, God doesn't exist and 2, I hate him.
LOL they are so butthurt.
The more trolls the better! Maybe one will SEEK!
You're waiting
On miracles
We're bleeding out
Thoughts
And prayers
Adorable
Like cake in a crisis
We're bleeding out
While you deliberate
Bodies accumulate
Sit and talk like Jesus
Try walkin' like Jesus
Sit and talk like Jesus
Talk like Jesus
Talk talk talk talk
Get out of my way
Don’t be the problem, be the solution
Don’t be the problem, be the solution
Don’t be the problem, be the solution
@@cllewis1 Nope. No atheïst claims that god doesn't exist. That is a strawman.
We just don't accept your claim.
Hate god?? silly boy.
How can I hate something that has no evidence od existing.
We hate the effects of religion.
The attempts to push us in to thing we don't believe.
Atheïsts do not come to your house to convince you about their way of live.
The laws that christians want to make to take rights away and at the same time make laws to get advantages for being religious.
Freedom of religion is also freedom FROM religion.
The likes of stepen anderson and matt powel, ken ham and inmate 06452017 (kent hovind), etc.
I've been Catholic my whole life, and I still have moments like at 38:39. 😆😂
Too bad you never got an education.
@@Itsatz0 So you are educated? Think again my dear.
@@madomoisellemiss3091 I can tell when I'm being lied to by child rapists. Certainly not stupid enough to give them my money.
@@Itsatz0So you are so well educated that you are not even aware that there is a big quantity of rapist among atheist? Please do your research.
@@madomoisellemiss3091 Wow, so it's OK that the Catholic Church has raped millions of children and nuns. Besides you are full of kaka. Christian nations have lower IQ's, higher crime and more poverty. Catholics have a higher rate of divorce than Atheists. Take your low life worldview and shove it.
Because of doubts about where we come from. Why things happen the way they do is actually the reason we should believe in God.
@@Itsatz0 Right...
She is soo funny lol! Great talk.
My philosophy professor boyfriend told me that smart, educated people don’t believe in God. I was crushed but I also saw myself as belonging to that “educated” world and eventually I did succumb to atheism. I kept waiting for the peace and relief to wash over me like he said it would once I gave up belief in God. It never did and the years I spent as an atheist were the most anxiety ridden and angriest years of my life. There truly is no peace without God in your heart.
Atheism hooks a lot of young people with the lie that only uneducated yokels believe in God. Atheism is a tribal mentality. Btw, the philosophy professor talked a good game about principles, integrity etc, but he was pretty depraved. It’s really hard to be good without God.
Do not believe in anything (simply) because you have heard it.
Do not believe in traditional ideas (simply) because they have been handed down for many generations.
Do not believe in anything because it is spoken or rumored by many.
Do not believe in anything (simply) because it is found written in your religious books.
Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
But after observation and analysis, when you find that a thing agrees with reason and is conductive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live by it. (The Buddha, The Kalama Sutta)
stevebee92653 look him up. He’s not religious either.
Yotemple TempleofYoism: _Do you believe that merely on the authority of your teacher and elder ('The Buddha')?_ :P
@@tryforthesky2224 Stupid remark. No one ever takes anything on authority when practicing Buddhism. Like a guide he may take you to the mountaintop once, after that you already know the way.
@@Itsatz0 Lol, did the joke go over your head? The OP chose not to make an argument ini their own words, but instead *quoted a religious authority's words* in saying no one should believe anything on authority. And yeah, the Buddha is kinda considered 'authoritative' in Buddhism. That's why people quote him all the time, haha. It's not because they DON'T care what he had to say.
It was hilarious. Sorry you couldn't see the humour. (Not even of my response post; just the innate funniness of the original post.)
@@tryforthesky2224 It did go over my head. Forgive me.
Is there a difference between a non-practicing Christian and an atheist?
Thanks for your testimony. It is true, there are so many things that we can know that are not measurable. That took me a while to realize, too. :)
What atheistic world view is she talking about? Atheism only addresses one thing.
Atheism is like aorangejuiceism it isn't an anything. Which fits in a universe like ours. Atheism is just radical unintelligence. Literally.
@@tommore3263 not figuratively? How is not being convinced of a specific god radical? You are an atheist to all gods, except the one. Now that we have cleared that up, you did not address my question? What atheistic world view was she talking about? Once again, atheism only addresses one thing.
one type: Agnosticism = practical atheism.
Felipe Van Leeuwen atheism is simply not a belief in a god, nothing more. It doesn’t even mean you are a skeptic. You write as if you don’t understand what an atheist even is.. There is no atheistic worldview, it doesn’t exist! It’s just something gullible theists have ran with because they think it helps their position. I am perfectly willing to change my mind when I am presented evidence that allows me to do so. You have already decided you “know”, so no matter what, you will ignore anything that doesn’t fit your narrative
Is the Pope Catholic? That got me real good.
amazing
To have to ask if the Pope is Catholic must be the definition of being an Atheist!!!
Who was that quote by when she was near the 3/4ths point?
St. Mary Elizabeth Hesselblad
shallow non-critical thinking, confirmation bias, emotional appeal, faulty logic, irrational justifications, post hoc fallacy and general bloviation and ultimately argument from ignorance and that was just in the first half of the video. nothing ground breaking or surprising here.
she maintained her "atheism" for a bad reason and became catholic for even worse reasons 🤦🏽♂️
If you're so logical, reasonable, scientific...then do an experiment and GENUINELY TRY TO LIVE THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS (to the letter) AND THEN SEE HOW IT AFFECTS YOUR LIFE? IF PEOPLE TRULY WANTED TO FIGURE OUT TRUTH...THEN THEY WOULD DO THIS ON A GLOBAL SCALE AND TRY, FOR EVEN A FEW YEARS (AS A WORLD) TO LIVE ACCORDING TO JESUS CHRIST TO SEE IF IT WOULD BENEFIT THE WORLD OR IF IT TRULY WAS THE TRUTH? BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO ADMIT THAT YOU'RE WRONG...AND THIS IS SOMETHING I HOPE YOU DEEPLY CONSIDER: IF I'M WRONG AND THERE IS NO GOD...THEN I'M WASTING MY LIFE TRYING TO LIVE IN A HOLY WAY, AND I'LL JUST DISSOLVE INTO THE UNIVERSE OR SOMETHING...BUT I WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT HELL OR PUNISHMENT OR SUFFERING...SO THAT'S NOT TOO BAD!!! BUT IF YOU ARE WRONG AND THERE IS A GOD AND HEAVEN AND HELL...AND THAT THERE REALLY ARE CONSEQUENCES FOR OUR ACTIONS...THEN YOU COULD POSSIBLY BE IN HELL SUFFERING INDESCRIBABLY FOR ALL ETERNITY??? PLEASE WEIGH THOSE OPTIONS CAREFULLY!!! Is ETERNITY WORTH THE RISK???
#truthwillsetyoufree 🥰
she had a baby after only holding a couple babies in her life??? Girl......
No logical reason to believe in this whole story. Her reasons are emotional and personal.
It is a fact that gods are not observed nor proved to be real - this fact is the reason why theism requires faith instead of proof.
Don’t be an indoctrinated atheist. Look up stevebee92653. Maybe he can help you. He’s not religious and doesn’t believe in evolution. Even he knows there is designer. He’s unbiased. What’s there to lose if he doesn’t believe in evolution and religion? Nothing spouted from atheists about religion will phase him. He only calls out evolution for what it is and asks people to question their belief in it.
@@KobeFan12452
Can you present an actual existing god as proof that it is in fact real?
Black Death Depends on what you take as evidence. Will you take archaeological evidence that gives credibility to the Bible? What about prophecy evidence that happened that no other being can predict? Or what about the fact that God said he will return in the end. Not in the middle not at your leisure but at the end. He came years ago and told us when he’ll come again so that’s why we don’t see him.
So the question is will you take any of that as evidence? Atheists rarely do...
@@KobeFan12452
The claim is a god exists. You will need an actual existing god as proof ...nothing else.
Black Death So I’m taking that as a no then? Typical atheists... ignorant... Why even bother.
Why this video is not viral ?
Because Christianity is boring bullshit.
@@Itsatz0 Actually...
@@Itsatz0 who are you?
@@madomoisellemiss3091 Someone who cleans up after my dog with pages from the Bible and the Koran.
@@Itsatz0 Christianity is a boring bullshit like your life isn't?
calling BS
About as silly as I expected. Her reason for believing is a straight up logical fallacy. And lee strobel?!?!? She called him a scholar!!! Wow!! His book has been shown to be bad journalism and debunked by real scholars, like Robert price.
Catholicism is the only fully coherent worldview out there from every possible avenue of analysis.
@@tommore3263 again, you did not have anything to say about my comment. I would like to read something about my comments from you. I am not holding my breath, but hopefully you will actually comment on what i actually wrote..
@@tommore3263 I did not expect a reply, although I was hoping. Oh well, I don't think you were looking for a real conversation, just wanted to input your opinion, that had nothing to do with my comments.
@@tommore3263 Like Free will not being mere brute fact? Like apologists having multiple different made-up non-biblical reasons for why Matthew & Luke's genealogies of Jesus differ? Liek worshiping a being who smites people with unimaginable agony day and night forever and ever? Like all the gospels giving wildly contradictory accounts of the resurrection myth and apologists simply Ad Hoc making up rationalizations not mentioned in The Bible?
You're the smart one. you got it all figured out in you what? probably 30-40 years of existence? in which you spent most of your time eating, playing, drinking, studying other subjects, and working? yeah right. your time will come.
I am an atheist, I lasted 16 minutes before I left. When she lost her belief because she had a child, I said wtf. Give a good reason for god or jesus or the holy spirit, whatever that is.
I still have a good friend, I was there for her first child when she was 18, she is 42 now. At the time she wanted to have a dozen more, but she recovered from that. She eventually had 2 kids. I can see how believers would eat her talk up, but I was raised in a very fundamentalist church, When people change there beliefs because of emotion, I have a problem, People do most of the evil and make most of there bad decisions because they let there emotions rule. This is what happens when intelligent people let their emotions rule. If you have a brain use it. Otherwise react out of emotion like the rest of the animal kingdom.
Read her book.
@@hardinmichael1981 Is it free??
I will not spend money to read BS.
@@boterlettersukkel
Yeah. Why bother to read anything and have an informed opinion when you can just remain in blissful ignorance all your life.
Do they not have Libraries on your planet?
@@hardinmichael1981 There is no need to read apologetics. That is mental mastrubation to twist the words that are in the bible.
Yep i have read some bible.
Enough to come to the conclusion that it is all myth, story's and heresay.
No truth there.
@@boterlettersukkel Wow. you must be quite a scholar.
Rational thinking and skepticism is not her friend. That's for sure!! 🤫
Jack Activist•Atheist She chose to leave her irrational ways. What’s so wrong with that. Now she is one of the few who can say broke out of the indoctrination.
@@KobeFan12452 She should have chosen to pursue an education. Christianity makes people stupid.
So what exactly convinced her? I think I missed it.
The profound love and understanding of the miraculous occurrence of her first born... it changed her course. She wasn't bitter, resentful, vindictive, etc. But filled with awe, wonder, and gratitude. Something we all could stand to try a little bit more.
@@jordan1789 so are you an ape or a human? Because I don't think there is anything more degrading to humanity than that concept. Conversely to the position that humans are made from love, by love, and for love in God's image and likeness is much better! Much luck to you! Because as an ape, I am grateful to dumb luck that I am not one 😂.
@@perryellison5255 same thing
@@jordan1789 my point proven 😁👌
@@perryellison5255 ..ok
I am looking for reasons to believe. Spouses and babies are awesome. It still sounds reasonable and natural to me.
Martin Lagerwey check out Peter kreeft
Peter Kreeft is indeed excellent. I was super fortunate.. I went to the U of Toronto and was able to look directly into the question of God's existence insofar as it could be known by reason alone. And .. its a piece of cake. We all naturally suspect there's a God or tend to believe it.. a single cell is to fantastic. .. etc, but the arguments .. Ed Feser a philosopher of note has excellent video's on the existence of God based upon the common sense view of Aristotle.. Father of western science.. Look into it as hard and deep as you like and you will not be disappointed. Kreeft is a wonderful intelligent philosopher as well. You''' probably be amazed at how dumb atheism looks afterwards. The cult-ure around us is dummied down 17th century materialism.. and that's dumb. May the force be with you!!! And have fun.
go to catholic answers channel here in youtube. check their videos
Has anyone stop to consider that this lady has found a well-paid job out of becoming a Christian? How is she different from anyone else selling a product? She has been doing the exact same thing for at least five years, she has found a productive niche... and she exploits it. It could be makeup, food or toiletries. She is selling you a product. Wake up!
Have you considered that she has a journey that others are interested in hearing? Have you considered that many others who are atheists or seekers of truth want to hear the story of one who is also a seeker of truth? If you are seeking Charmin or Dove soap, you are in the wrong place and should continue to seek.
@@MAK0517 You missed his/her point entirely.
Very gullible. I feel sorry for your wallet if you are this easily convinced, you sound like someone who would buy her overpriced book!
Advocates for this video who responded, why didn’t any of you address what I wrote?
I’m friends with one of her children, the sad thing in he’s trans. ( was a girl but isn’t now ) but he can’t come out because he thinks his family won’t accept him. Including Jennifer, his mom. I’m trying to help him, not giving out any names but it’s sad. 😔
Gender disphoria clears up in up to 98% of cases with puberty. And I don't believe your post anyway.
Tom More You don’t have to believe me. And sure, he could “be a girl” still in the future. But as long as I know I’m helping him through this “gender dysphoria” you think he’s going through, I’m happy. I honestly just try to help people I meet online. If this does help, he lives in Houston Texas, has 5 siblings, 3 younger, 2 older ( I believe ) Hope you believe me now, you don’t have to. I’m not sure why you think I’d make a story up like this anyway.
with the internet having lots of trolls and all, you got no proof with what you're claiming here. for an atheist, that sounds kind of... ironic? lol. You don't just go out in public and say something about someone else's family, that could probably ruin her and her reputation, without proof. Capitalizing on people's emotions? yeah right.
@@kasbrr1734 such information can be taken from the internet. really smart. And, she said she was from Texas by the way.
Are you sure you know what an atheist is?
An agnostic is somebody who doesn't believe in God. An atheist is a vocal, pretentious, and arrogant non-believer.
@@bobgarrett7134 Agnosticism is just the stance on whether it is possible to know if a god exists or not. Atheism means someone who doesn't believe in a deity. They are not mutually exclusive.
@@BingleFlimp We know God exists, because Earth, with all it's finely tuned ecosystems exists... Earth's orbit around the sun has been perfect for billions of years of stability.. The moon helps regulate Earth's orbit, regulate its tides, and lends to some of it's weather systems.. Its orbit is perfect as well.. The sun's rays are produced by nuclear fusion that is more finely calibrated than a Swiss watch. They provide light, warmth, photosynthesis, vitamin D and other benefits we are now discovering.. And when you look at the thousands of systems in nature as a whole, most realize they were thought out and planned.. An agnostic says "God may exist -- but he may not exist." ... An atheist claims he doesn't exist.
@@bobgarrett7134 I know you believe a god exists and with that belief, you claim that the earth is finely tuned. From my perspective, the "finely tuned" arguement sounds like you found a rock in a field, drew a target around it and are telling people that someone threw the rock aiming to hit the target.
An agnostic says "There is no way of knowing if a god exists or not." which is true.
An atheist takes it one step further and says "If there's no way of knowing if a god exists then why entertain the idea that one does?" There are a multitude of things whose existence is unknowable and for those things the general stance is disbelief. No one is agnostic in regards to Santa Claus, or leprechauns and other such creatures.
@@BingleFlimp Hitting a target in a field with a rock isn't big stuff... If you were wing walking on an airplane and tossed the rock, and it hit the bullseye in the field, it still wouldn't be that remarkable.. Weirder stuff happens.. Let's talk about things that don't happen by chance.. Every atom of silver has 47 protons, 61 neutrons, and 47 electrons having 5 different orbits. The number of electrons per orbit are 2, 8, 18, 18, and 1.. there are sextillions of these atoms in a silver dollar and the orbit of each or their electrons could set an atomic clock to an accuracy of within 1 second in 15 billion years.. It's like you never thought much about where your are, who you are, why you where put here, or what exists around you and why?
So God found her a house and furniture and medicine yet he can't help the tens of thousands of homeless and sick people in the U.S.!
Goalie Dave can’t isn’t the right word
@@tonywallens217 Okay - so "won't". That's worse.
Goalie Dave how do you know?
@@tonywallens217 How do I know what?
Goalie Dave that not helping the homeless is worse. Do you know what will happen tomorrow or a month for now or a year from now? Do you know conclusively that the poverty endured today will not result in a greater good that is to come? As a human how can we judge the prerogatives of God and what he allows when we can’t see into the future and only have memory of the past. God is outside of time and sees everything in a singular sense. Dot judge him from your microscopic perspective is what I’m saying
As an atheist, I have to admit, whenever I come to a video like this, it's always with a little bit of anxiety. I think "Why would an atheist become Catholic? Does she know something I don't? Is my worldview about to be annihilated?" I don't seriously expect that, but there's always a part of me that wonders, "what if?" Then I see this video and it's so bad that I'm actually disappointed. She believes in God because she felt such strong love for her child and it was so strong that it just HAD to be supernatural? Even if you're Catholic and you agree with her conclusion, really ask yourself if that's a valid thought process. Because it seems to me like someone who values feelings over facts rather than a truth-seeker. The rest of the speech isn't much better. I can't believe the arrogance of people who think God intervened to solve their personal financial problems when so many people in the world pray to the same deity and starve.
Hey, if there's still that "what if?" inside of you, there has to be something inside of you that opens up to more than just human reason. If you WANT to find answers about the existence of a supernatural power, you have to realize that it will take more than just human logic. (i mean, your trying to find answers about something supernatural, a being (God) with knowledge way over human knowledge).
The least we can do when trying to find these types of answers, is to open our minds to new perspectives. You wont find answers if you try to prove them wrong even before beginning to research.
I hope that part of you that wanders "what if?" is filled with joy.
Dont be afraid of filling that gap or that anxiousness with God.
And hey, even if the video was horrible or not, i think the fact that you clicked -despite that anxiety- was something brave, dont let one dissapointing video stop you from finding answers, God bless :).
It's possible to be right for the wrong reasons. i.e. It's possible to hold the reasonable position for the "wrong" reasons. Jen was raised atheist- people can be atheist for many reasons. The reasoning is separate from the position/claim.
I don't think Jen was a reasonable atheist, but she was an atheist.
@@vanesavega6775 Do you believe that one should have a good reason for believing in something?
What if the "correct" god is from an African tribe that went extinct 1,000 years ago, and now we will all suffer eternal damnation in that version of hell?
How much time do you devote wondering "what if?" about the countless god(s) you will never conceive of?
@@phxcppdvlazi hmmm...if we are talking about a supernatural being powerful enough that crowds move for him or against him, he has to be powerful enough (and well, real) to be in the past, present, and future of society. I think we can all agree that God, has never faded away from the world, thats why i do believe that if there is a "correct" God, well he has to be one that has been in the minds and souls of every being, at least once in their lives. So no, the correct god is not one from 1,000 years ago, or else he would still be here (i mean, since this god would be the "almighty" he's important to stay in memory in his own creation for eternity). So based on my explination, God is the one and only powerful God, because he hasn't faded away from His own creation (earth), he has stayed here, is in our minds and thoughts at the moment, and will stay here. Hopefully i gave you a decent response :).
If all it took was the birth of her child for her to abandon atheism then she was never really an atheist.
seems like you missed the whole "growing up until college" part. your time will come, just wait. ;)
@@serviamserviam4618 No no, any TRUE atheist would never convert. She converted, therefore she wasn't a true atheist.
@@p00tis This is a no true scotsman fallacy. Jen was an atheist. It's possible to hold the reasonable position for the wrong reasons (or no good reason at all).
Example: I can believe that the Earth goes around the sun ... because my pet monkey typed it randomly one day on the typewriter. Is this a good reason to believe that the Earth goes around the sun? of course not. A good reason would be observation, coming up with a mathematical model that can make predictions and can be falsified.
I don't think Jen had good reason to be atheist, from what material of hers I've read. Neither does she have good reason to be a Catholic, now.
@@phxcppdvlazi Nope. I going to parrot Calvinism and say that anyone that was once an atheist and is now a non-atheist never was an atheist in the first place. Just like how anyone who was Christian if they are now a non-Christian never were a Christian to begin with.
Kewl beans?
She said that her faith came from her baptism when she was a little one, but it did not, it came from her husband because she was the non-believer and he was the Believer, but this man is not a Believer by the power of Reason, if I believe because of the power of reason I will also disbelieve because of its power, this man was born of God, the Christ, the holy spirit, when he was but a child at 13,
it is written; the glory of man is God, the glory of woman is man, meaning; when a man possesses the light of God the woman will reveal his glory. You will know the glory of man by looking at woman and there he is right in front of his face.
It’s not reasonable
When we search for the truth about something for 2000 years and get no further then anecdotal, because I said so's. I believe in all kinds of things that are not scientifically proven, like traveling faster then the speed of light or the multiverse. But I dont believe as if it's a fact but more like, I believe it will be discovered.
Mindy, sweetie....you've commented about 5 or 6 times as I've been scrolling here....are you okay? We're here for you if you need some support but please try to get a grip on your emotions and relax. If you want to have a discussion, I'm sure plenty of people are willing here but you just spurting out various little "dismissive" comments multiple times in a single comment's section that are all unrelated (Except for being related to the fact that you are extremely passionate about reiterating the fact that you are an atheist. BTWs, we definitely picked up on that. Thank you for letting us know but I'm a little confused on why you seem so insecure that you feel the need to continue reiterating that point...be secure in your atheism, girl.)
Yes you are right 2000 years and where is perfect man, where is perfect woman, where is perfect love, it is written; the world blasphemes against God because of you, that is, the church, if the church uses the name of perfect love, and brings forth lovelessness, how then will you see a God, where he is not, the man or woman of God loves, for God is love, beautiful one so dear to God's heart, it is written; seek and you shall find, knock and the door shall open, ask and it shall be given to you, you are the light of the world, what comes out of you enters into this world,
the kingdom of God is within you, do not reject the Christ, because as you have seen, the evil that has come forth out of those who use the name Jesus Christ Emmanuel, shall I say that you are blind and cannot see, yet you have seen the evils of the church, have you not, then this is not blindness, is it,
I tell you the truth, there are things which you see that your eyes are open to, and it is the truth, but there is a greater truth, that dwells within you.
princess, find the Christ within you and you will see his light, from one end of the sky to the other, and you will Light Up The world.
@@TempleofChristMinistries ....would this convince you?
@@jordan1789 if you're speaking of my comment to you, then in this, I hope you seek to find the truth, for one thing you want to know and believe it is the truth, whatever that may be,
but if you are speaking of the woman's testimony, then it will not convince me, it lacks much when it comes to the power of God, as you have said, time and time again 2000 years and all you see are Infants still Suckling on mother's breast, and you're right in what you see, not just this, but many things, but there are more things to be seen, and you know that because you do not see everything, but you do see, and it is the truth, keep seeking the truth no matter what it is, I tell you the truth, you'll find it and in the end you'll find the Christ, you are greater than you know, you are more powerful than you think, and I have seen this within you.
@@TempleofChristMinistries ..I was talking about your comment but yea, her speech is empty aswell. Always care about the truth, I agree.
Yea dont worry about the old testament, that's the old version of god, we have a new god. But we still worship that old god to.
God is God.. He is the same.. He is the alpha n omega.. Beginning and end.. There's no difference in him.He changes not . You see it jus as perspective is ... Old testament was the God showing us that we need him to save us.. That we can't humanly follow his precepts and that we need him to come in human form send his only begotten son to show us how to live.. Die for the atonement of our sins be humiliated for our transgressions.. Jesus is love because God is love.. Jesus is the reflection of God in the flesh.. If you believe he's a Just God.. It wld only be justified that when people didn't follow his precepts and follow what he spoke through the prophets that he wld show his wrath... Jesus turned down tables and blasted out on the tax collectors in the church for filthines in the church... Jesus chose truth first always.. He didn't mince words... Jesus came in mercy... Bt when he comes again he will come in justice and then will be the wrath on the world... On the non Christ following world
@PRISON JUSTICE ...awwww
@@chanisecarvalho5869 ..do you really think that I have never heard this before? Still two completely two different gods. Did you really say that the god of the bible is unchanging? The god of the bible can't even remember where he left two people at. Abraham talked god down, when god was on one of his genocidal tantrums. On and on, I ain't got time for this nonsense.
@@jordan1789 Then why comment? Don't comment unless you can take the debate.
@@nette9836 what debate
Every theist has accepted their claimed god not by observing their claimed god actually existing, but because someone they know told them so without any proof.
I would take the billions!!!
Plenty more leaving the Catholic Church than arriving at it. All of those pesky paedophiles have been a PR nightmare. Hilariously every single person I know that went through the Catholic Education system (including myself) are now atheist.
That just shows how bad Catholic schools are at producing Catholic adults. Homeschooling FTW!
Wow, your personal experiences must be indicative of everyone else's!
@@nette9836 I don't think that was implied in the posted comment
@@cllewis1 "Hilariously every single person I know that went through Catholic Education system (including myself) are now atheist." This statement implies that their experience is indicative of what happens when individuals are steeped in Catholicism because the observed it happen in their life. Now we are all intelligent enough to know this wasn't just an observation but was meant to emphasize a certain point that being surrounded by the faith produces atheists for various reasons. This is simply not true and is an argument that suggests an easy stereotype in order to dismiss the valid and good things that come from some faith-based schooling systems.
Hi I go to Catholic school and have watched many graduate and continue their Catholic faiths and I fully intend to as well!!!
Congratulations. Im so happy you got a house and a fridge. Maybe your next prayer can be for the millions of starving children that die every day.
Hey Bressler, how much have you given to the millions of starving kids??? ... Jennifer has given more than she can afford to the poor, but bragging about that is not what her talk was about... Doesn't seem like you got a lot out of it. Her message is very powerful for people who are searching for truth.
@@bobgarrett7134 irrelevant. So long as you claim prayers are answered and there are still starving people dying in the world than your god is useless
@@bobgarrett7134 what "truth" can be found when you claim to have the answers from the start?
@@daltonbressler2685 No one raised in atheistic indoctrination, like Jennifer Fulwiler, had the answers from the start. Many don't have the advantage of being raised in the truth. They search for it for decades. Jennifer Fulwiler is only one example. She is spreading the truth because she wants you to save your soul while you still have a real shot at redemption.
Let me ask you just one question. Do you ever appreciate the sun? All of mankind could not construct, repair, or replace the sun, even if we had perfect knowledge of the mechanics of the type of nuclear fusion that can create full spectral rays. The sun has been providing Earth with light, warmth, vitamin D, photosynthesis, photovoltaics, and stability in space for billions of years as we orbit 67,000 miles per hour around it while in a perfect tilt and rotation to create days and seasons. The moon helps regulate our orbit, rotation, tides, and some weather patterns ... Do you think any of this is thought out? Or is it just “natural.” … as if nature could create itself -- or put thought into anything.
@@bobgarrett7134 all that time looking for truth and yet her reasons are feelings alone. This is meaningless. Yes i value the sun. Is the sun greater than god? Why did the sun thats provides for us have to be created. But the god that supposedly provides for us just magiced himself into existence?
Great saleswoman, horrible product.
Just because you dont wer nappies DOSENT mean thr bad!!
Sorry. This is painful to watch with your flimsy reasons of "deconversion"
She has learned how to monetize off the gullible, congrats!!!
So.ur just brain dead!!
If you're so logical, reasonable, scientific...then do an experiment and GENUINELY TRY TO LIVE THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS (to the letter) AND THEN SEE HOW IT AFFECTS YOUR LIFE? IF PEOPLE TRULY WANTED TO FIGURE OUT TRUTH...THEN THEY WOULD DO THIS ON A GLOBAL SCALE AND TRY, FOR EVEN A FEW YEARS (AS A WORLD) TO LIVE ACCORDING TO JESUS CHRIST TO SEE IF IT WOULD BENEFIT THE WORLD OR IF IT TRULY WAS THE TRUTH? BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO ADMIT THAT YOU'RE WRONG...AND THIS IS SOMETHING I HOPE YOU DEEPLY CONSIDER: IF I'M WRONG AND THERE IS NO GOD...THEN I'M WASTING MY LIFE TRYING TO LIVE IN A HOLY WAY, AND I'LL JUST DISSOLVE INTO THE UNIVERSE OR SOMETHING...BUT I WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT HELL OR PUNISHMENT OR SUFFERING...SO THAT'S NOT TOO BAD!!! BUT IF YOU ARE WRONG AND THERE IS A GOD AND HEAVEN AND HELL...AND THAT THERE REALLY ARE CONSEQUENCES FOR OUR ACTIONS...THEN YOU COULD POSSIBLY BE IN HELL SUFFERING INDESCRIBABLY FOR ALL ETERNITY??? PLEASE WEIGH THOSE OPTIONS CAREFULLY!!! Is ETERNITY WORTH THE RISK???
She is using all the usual apologetic arguments. I dont understand how she claims to understand the athiest arguments.
@Mindy: I think, She do not understand or She have to be “only” a liar; we the humans always lie a little. 🤫🙄
@@wtfjesus8251 ..yep and we dont get to blame it on some sickness.
Mindy I think you’ll find it useful to remember that this was not a formal debate or an academic lecture. This is a testimony, which will include a lot of anecdotal evidence. If it doesn’t speak to you, that’s fine, but that doesn’t make the long intellectual tradition of Catholicism invalid.
Also arguing with anyone, convince me to be an athiest is kind of a waste. Present ideas, go and investigate or not. You cannot argue anyone to faith or visa versa.
Lee strobel is not a scholar!!!
Let me guess, god was fixing to feed all the children in Africa. Then you prayed and god stopped what he was doing and made sure you had furniture.
Hahahaha "oooh my ice cream melted". God doesnt exist :(
The problem with evil and accident in the world created can be studied using something called catholic theology. Try. It won't bite
I'm sorry, but if your story is honest and truthful, it seems like what you were attributing to "atheism" is what you should attribute ignorance. You even said yourself that you feel like you were calling yourself atheist was so that you would "seem smart", just like you may have hunted Gucci-products to "fit in". You made that comparison, too. You have also admitted and realized that those engineers, doctors and scientists ARE smart, and can only achieve real results by having methods to actually find out what truth is. Which is why THEY are atheists. You wanting to fit in by means of ignorance only discredits yourself and makes you most and foremost be untruthful towards yourself. This was a rather sad thing to listen to.
There are many atheists who are not engineers, doctors, or scientists. She is speaking from one type of atheism among many. She has shown great strength in exposing her vulnerability of having been that certain type of atheist, and the point is she is not that type anymore. Also, even atheists who are engineers, doctors, and scientists don't have all the truth. Some methods don't work out and some results are flawed. That's why there can be false positives on blood tests or doctors who give women birth control to "balance their hormones" which often times causes them to hemorrhage. In the case of Jennifer, she actually did use a method to get herself out of that situation of "ignorant" gucci atheism and it clearly bore real results for her life that she now shares openly and vulnerably. Humanity is flawed as a whole but it is "those engineers, doctors and scientists" who believe their methods and results are truth because of how they affect certain people, regardless of how they affect different people, who are truly ignorant. Everyone could use a healthy dose of humility and honesty in their fields instead of self-righteousness at the expense of true health and justice. I won't even go into the political climate of our world today and how much THEY need to take an honest and hard look at their own lives and could use some humility. And yes, Jennifer was untruthful towards herself as an atheist which is why she is no longer an atheist. Atheism might not look like gucci atheism to another atheist but the same rule applies that humility is a precursor to any truth-seeking.
+Adele Dominiguez, It seems like you have the same misconception as Jennifer, even though I tried to point out the problem. Being or claiming to be an atheist gives you neither any knowledge or super-powers. Living with a rational mind and appreciating methodology such as the scientific method merely makes you an atheist by default, as it is the rational conclusion you come to given any [to date] theistic arguments.
"She is speaking from one type of atheism among many" doesn't make any sense as a sentence. You are attributing 'atheist' to something else than the rejection of theistic claims.
However, she clearly stated the reasons for Calling herself an atheist. But in her own words, it seemed like she merely "chose a position" without understanding whether or not there is a method of even judging what the default position should be. Something that an agnostic would say. She seemed to lack the ability to even reason her stance in any rational manner.
That being said, anyone can of course freely call themselves 'atheist' or 'agnostic' or 'theist' regardless of their reasons of doing so. That is not the problem.
The problem is that she started from her own ignorance and attributed it to others, as she thought "being an atheist" somehow makes other people share her ignorance, "because they are atheist too". This is extremely irrational."She has shown grat strength in exposing her vulnerability..."
This is completely irrelevant. What someone feels or doesn't feel does not change the facts about the universe or whether or not one is being ignorant.There is no scientific progress made on researchers showing their vulnerability. The only thing that matters are rational arguments.However, if one is to preach and get emotions, compassion and the trust of others, then yes, showing vulnerability is great. Which is why con-artists, sects/churches/testimonials can be driven on random nonsense, because humans are herd-animals and act accordingly to the pain of others."In the case of Jennifer, she actually did use a method to get herself out of that situation of ignorant' Gucci atheism.."No she didn't. She kept her ignorance and swayed the other way for the exact same reason. She chose a stance from an ignorant/irrational viewpoint, and change it to another for the very same reason.
@@JWAM I'm not sure I fully understand your claim that humans are "herd-animals" who react merely according to the pain of others. This seems to extract the "ratio" from human beings, in which case contradicts your claim of Jennifer speaking irrationally. Would she not then be acting as a human being? Could you clarify what your understanding of a human being is?
@@adeledominguez6203 I'm sorry, in return, I'm not sure I fully understand the question / reasoning.
I did not say that humans are animals who "merely react according to the pain of others". What I said was that as humans are herd-animals, just like other primates and a variety of other mammals. It has been beneficial for us to care about our peers. This is something that is controlled by our emotions, and it evidently creates very strong bonds, and it has helped us survive as a group (or groups). She is acting very human indeed. As are the listeners who "feel her vulnerability". This is EXACTLY the reason why the scientific method is so extremely clear on the point we are better of realizing that we are complete morons when it comes to rationality. It is not our greatest skill.
If we burnt all books and tried to "erase all knowledge", and started from the beginning. After, say.. 10000 years, we would have a new set of "random" thousands of religions and cultures. New "bibles". But the books on science would eventually be the same as before we burnt them. Because it's the reliable way of drawing conclusions that will not get tainted by opinions, beliefs, "strong feelings" or authorative people.
@@JWAM If we are complete morons, why are we the ones drawing those scientific conclusions? If you can't trust your rationality, there's no reason to believe in the truth of your own thoughts. I'm glad you're taking a non-scientific assumption that there is a regularity about the universe that will continue into the future. Why does the same thing happen tomorrow as it does today? Why does gravity exist same tomorrow as today? Why doesn't it change? Our answers to this are based on non-scientific assumptions. Please refer to Bertrand Russell's "non-overlapping magisteria (NOMA)." For example, Aristotle makes a distinction between his Physics and his Metaphysics.
This video makes me sad. What a waste of a mind. This is what happens when you go "seeking for truths" but refuse to let your beliefs be _disciplined_ by established truths! She keeps calling atheism a "worldview." But it's no more a "worldview" than lack of belief or disbelief in ghosts or Bigfoot or astrology. As a wise atheist once said: "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."
She goes off the rails again when she paints "modern atheism" as mostly fallen to "Scientism," which is at first "common" among New Atheists then "rampant." The belief that "everything must be provable by the scientific method." That's ridiculous and shows her philosophical ineptitude. It's a stratagem employed by a lot of scummy apologists: they piss on reason. They don't comprehend that science is just an extension of reason, and reason is where the battle is mostly fought, not science. I _believe_ that no human ever ran a one-minute mile: 60 MPH for 60 seconds. Can I prove that through the scientific method? No. But is it a rational belief? Yes. I _believe_ that if I draw 4 aces in a poker hand, I'm going to win. Can I prove that through the scientific method? No. But is it rational to bet big? Yes. I _believe_ there is no Bigfoot. Can I prove that with science? No. Is it a rational belief anyway? Yes. On I could go all day. Now you see: reason can logically take us where science cannot tread. Perfectly rational beliefs don't require proof, merely rational justification. She's falsely trying to divide people into atheists - who "believe nothing that can't be proved through science" and theists whose beliefs are free to go beyond science. But as I've shown, to caricature atheists as restricting their beliefs to "lab verification" is a straw-man. I _believe_ there is no god/goat hybrid, Pan. I _believe_ there is no god/elephant hybrid, Ganesha. These beliefs are beyond science, but are they irrational? No? I also believe there is no god/ape hybrid, Jesus. Is that irrational? What's the diff?
Ask this armchair philosopher how many gods she believes there are. One. The biblical god. So ipso facto she believes that Allah does _not_ exist. Can she rationally justify that belief? Not without reflecting negatively on her own beliefs. Pathetic!
So what changed her from atheist to theist? A personal anecdote told by her boyfriend and strong maternal feelings. Sorry, but that's not enough! Plenty of others have had "transformative" or "transcendent" experiences with other gods. Are they valid, too?
It's easy to shut the the mouths of these ignorant, brainwashed hypocristians. Just challenge them to justify their "God is good" belief with a list of acts their god would never do to anyone. That's right: examples of acts that cause so much pain, suffering, misery and grief that although their "bad devil" might commit such acts against people, their "good" god _never_ would. Failure to give any examples shows they believe their god might do anything to anyone, any time for any reason. THAT'S NOT GOOD! It also shows that they can't differentiate their god and devil _by their actions!_ But as soon as they give a single example, they may never again claim that "Man can't judge God" cuz they just did! That green-lights anyone to compare what they say their god would never do to what God _does_ do in the bible: kill and order killed men, women, children and babies by the millions.
Here's her: "We believe things all the time that you can't prove in a laboratory." So she seems to get it. She just doesn't understand that the non-lab belief that there are no gods is perfectly rational anyway.
She had her religious conversion feeling love for her baby. This is illustrative. God is a feeling that comes from within, not a being that exists without! That explains why Christians regularly disagree on the qualities of God. Is God OK with sex before marriage? With moderate drinking? With abortion in some cases? With smoking tobacco? Weed? With voluntary sterilization? With the Sunday Sabbath? With the teaching of Evolution? With corporal punishment of kids? Christians disagree on all these and most other issues. So they're either tuned into different gods, tuned into the same god giving them contradictory statutes or...God is a feeling, not a being. It should be obvious which is true. Not through science. Pure reason.
First she impugns "scientism:" this straw-man she made up who restricts all beliefs to the demonstrable. But at the same time she ignores well-established scientific conclusions. Here are the questions to make her squirm! Science has shown that the Earth is only ~1/3 the age of the universe and thus the two were not created "In the beginning." Is science or the bible wrong? Anthropology is clear: we came out of Africa, not some garden in the Middle East. Which is wrong, the bible or the science? Medical science has completely dismissed demon possession as a cause of any illness. So...what was Jesus going around casting out? Genetics has shown beyond any reasonable doubt: all life is related through descent. There goes Adam, Eve, Original Sin, the Fall and any need for a bloody and torturous "sacrifice" of "atonement." Unless science is wrong. Furthermore, unless our geologists are total incompetents or all in on a big conspiracy, there was no worldwide flood. Yet in the Matthew gospel, Jesus indicates he believes in the Flood. Was Jesus wrong (and thus can't be a god)? Or science? Or were those words put into Jesus' mouth by the anonymous author of Matthew? If that's true then it's rational to believe that all Jesus' words were put into his mouth by the gospel authors. The sciences of Egyptology and Palestinian archeology have reached a consensus which agrees with the best biblical scholarship: ancient Israel was never in Egypt. So there was no Moses; no Ten Plagues; no Exodus; no Wanderings and no Conquest. Yet these non-events are frequently alluded to in the Prophets and the New Testament as historical. All wrong. Unless science is.
Wow, that is just sad... It's like a person willingly goes blind.
When a man thinks his wife has been unfaithful, he takes her to the priest. The prist will give the woman a bitter drink and if she has been unfaithful then her thigh will rot.
@William Bynum god was made in our image. We evolved morally but its manifestation has not.
Just another apologist pretending to have been an atheist.
@richard lawlor: 👍
it's the fact, pal. you don't know her.
@@YRJ88Game if it quacks like a duck it probably is a duck.
richard lawlor why does it hurt for an atheist to see another atheist believe in God.
*just keep your atheism.
@@YRJ88Game she was never an atheist. And by the way why are you so upset that someone doesn't believe what you believe?
Too bad she didn't get an education. Then she wouldn't be wasting her time with VooDoo.
Ahh..that's so cuuute. Have you corrected Aristotle's metaphysics and stopped using the words "potential" and 'actual" yet? Or the word "information"? The basis for Catholicism is more solid than your language.
@@tommore3263 Aristotle's metaphysics? What on earth does that have to do with this pathetic person and her lack of an education? Whadayou tryin' to do? Sound intelligent or something?