Are Olympiacos Still The EuroLeague Favorites?
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- Olympiacos Piraeus advanced to their 2nd Final Four in a row after beating Fenerbahce Istanbul in the five-game series. In this video, BasketNews’ Augustas Suliauskas analyzes how the strategy of Dimitrios Itoudis made the Greeks & Georgios Bartzokas uncomfortable, how Kostas Sloukas was able to dominate & the Olympiacos’ set play that Fenerbahce was unable to stop.
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Only olympiacos!!
YES
Been the favorites since very early on in the season. This is a team that will be remembered as one of the greatest in EL history. Now, onto the trophy.
Not the greatest and not even close , Efes back to back was the legendary and greatest of all times!
@@Delealli00 With 6th spot in regular season last season? No. Olympiakos in 12-13 was also legendary. Back to back champions. Or Maccabi in 04-05. But the greatest team ever was Jugoplastika Split in 89-91.
@@Delealli00 hahaha good one mongol
@@petedo6532 Olympiacos in 2011-12 did not dominate at all, but won the title surprisingly. Efes been at the very top for four seasons straight. Regular season championship with 24-4, and had aleady played and won all difficult road games. Three straight championships after a final in my book. No team comes close.
You also have Fener with 5 F4's and 3 finals in a row. Stolen championship against CSKA. Bad refereeing also in the Real final. Won the regular season with a 25-5 record, 15-0 at home. Won the playoffs 3-0 (against the previous champion), 3-0 (against the previous champion), 0-3, 3-1 and 3-1. So a playoff record of 15-2.
Both competed against Russian teams.
Olympiacos in the last two seasons goes 24-10 (not even remotely close to 25-5 and 24-4), has a 6-4 record in the playoffs, became 4th last season, and is now in the playoffs again. Did not compete against Russians.
If you still think this Olympiacos comes close to them, then that's very cute. 😊
@@petedo6532 i meant to reply to the OP not you my bad
Yes, Bartzokas barely adjusted but to his credit, staying with his plan worked in the end. What's even more impressive is that while Fener made around 20 different adjustments all against any possible weakness of Olympiacos, they never got away in any game and struggled to even lead, except maybe in game 3 - still with small differences. For me that says a lot for Olympiakos' game. Not to mention that Olympiacos shot very bad the whole series and 3ps are a main part of the playstyle. Players like Papanikolaou, Peters, Larentzakis who all had great percentages all season, barely made any.
I'm not taking anything away from Fener's effort, they literally tried everything they could, but that gives even more credit to Olympiacos and the Bartzokas playbook imo
Also adding to the discussion about Sloukas' great buzzer beater: Of course it was amazing and crucial but let's not forget that Olympiacos almost gifted the game away 20 seconds before that.
And simultaneously Olympiacos DID gift Game 2, with 2 missed FTs and a lost rebound after a bad Fener offence and a missed three pointer from.. Motley! Personally I believe that if Olympiacos had won game 2, the series could have even ended 3-0. But..."what ifs" should not be part of bball discussions :)
@@SerDadaşov 100% unfortunate for him and Booker. I think if your team was healthy you also wouldn't be 8th in the end of the regular season
@@SerDadaşov That's a very hypothetical argument though. Scottie is a baller , but Oly has shown that the team is great at locking down individual players. In fact, Scottie being out made Fener a much more unpredictable opponent that needed multiple protagonists to prevail. Oly has been the better team since the beginning of the season.
@@SerDadaşov let me disagree kardesim. all Olympiakos fans who actually understand basketball (maybe 2%), praid to God for Wilbekin to play. he would offer Olympiakos easy wins, only reasons Fener stayed in game is slow offences, tough defence, big bodies - Gudurice was the key player both on G2 and G4 for Fener, being important also on G1 and a great fighter on G5. Wilbekin would only have destroyed the plan of itoudis, to destroy basketball
You guys are hands down the best basketball channel on YT.
That’s awesome to hear, thank you!
Olympiacos and Batzokas shows the clubs that you dont need to overpay all the players to be in the final 4 you just have to fit the right puzzles and play modern basketball as a team! good luck to all the clubs . Hoope Oly wins it all this season just because they deserve it.... simple as that !who is the favorite in f4? Thats not a question ... every team has 25% and depends in what condition they will be in those 2 games .
European basketball is all about tactics.. olympiacos has 25% chance to win... Like the other teams... But the key part here is that olympiacos, doesn't need great three point percentage to win.. olympiacos doesn't die from that factor
Oly is not a clear favourite, agree with you. Indeed they have not been in top form in the last 2 months. Regarding the refs: Yes, they were good to Oly in game 5. But the refs wore yellow and blue in games 3 and 4 as well. You can see the half truth if you want, but that’s your choice. If the refs had not allowed the crazy physical game in Instanbul, there would have been no game 5 either.
FACTS !!! 💯
overall the refs were quite on Fenerbache's side
Olympiakos started the season as #8 favourites to win the league.
Im an Oly fan but what everyone does not really understand is that Fener has a 3xbudget from Oly even though some basic players like Wilbekin were out, it was unfortunate that they came 8th because they were one of the favs to win the trophy this year, with many great players so it was the worst draw that could come as 8th position team.
From the other hand I have to admit that Oly used to play much better on earlier stages but hopefully F4 will be different games. I know that budget do not play basketball for there is a reason that player like Mirotic is worth 5M, almost half of Olympiakos budget. I remind you last year Micic, worth 3-4M, scored the final shoot, which took us out...
im an oly fan too and for every point you made i have to say "so what?", can olympiakos go for the trophy? yes or no. all the above are irrelevant and old stories at this point. (if you're worried about the other teams budgets, it's ok. but budgets don't play bball culture does. oly always was the underdog, this year some like to forget it. those players are established euroleague players and if they can go for more be sure they will. the point is do you like how they played all year? and all those if's....couldn't care less)
@@georgemarco11 im only saying that Oly always exceeds the limits and beats teams with higher budgets. People talking that Fener made it hard for Oly, but its actually the other way around. No matter what, we always go for a trophy
What a load of horseshit lol. "they were one of the favs to win the trophy this year" Yeah, a completely new roster and a new coach is favorites to win the trophy. "some basic players like Wilbekin were out" Yeah, only our highest earner. Just a basic player. Let along Bjelica who missed the entire season due to injury. Dorsey joined the team only 2 months ago as well. So no, Fenerbahçe wasn't some secret favorite to win the tournament. Olympiacos had very passive coaching during the matches and it almost cost them the series. Without Sloukas' miraculous buzzer beater, Fener would have won the series and it would have been one of the biggest upsets in the recent history of Euroleague. Olympiacos were the heavy favorites. You don't get to play the "we are actually the underdogs" card after dominating the entire season.
@@Panos835 agreed man, and all i know by the way, is if you have home court advant. the first and the last games are the crucial, and those i think we won atleast easy... oly was and always will be the underdog. so why even mention? who knows, knows...
@@Bishey i was not even talking to you my friend. and me i know all about it, but too many if's in your story and those guys previous video about this series. if the slukas shot, if the 4th game.... all i know the crucial 1 and 5 we wanted, we won almost easy. and these guys had to make this video to fix it. yes itudis made as difficult, but those guys last video they presented it as if we won by luck.... all i was sayin to the other guy is he should not complain about budgets, yes we was and always be the underdogs, so... me i like the way we play, i like our chances and at this point whatever comes . and by the way reg season are preparation games actually (you saw partizan after 1 year preparation) so.. biggest upset bs i have to say. and to be fair, you should ask us about big upsets in euroleague history...
My opinion the match against monaco will be taughter for us than the final (if whe manage to get there)
Olympiacos will have basically home court advantage in F4 since it is the only team with real fans
Amazing analysis, mate.....Hats-off
Appreciate it a lot!
Starting the season, the main goal was to secure the playoff spot, then to secure homecourt advantage and then the F4.Expectations skyrocketed when they started with three away wins in Spain but still I agree with coach Bartzokas that the year is already a success and that the team reached their maximum potential. They are not the favorites but this is the F4, everybody stands a chance.
Itoudis plan was to bring the better team down to his team level, making every game a hard dogfight. Partizan, Macabbi and zalgiris, they all tried to raise their game to match their opponents. I can not praise Itoudis for finishing 8th in the regular season, for sure and IMO doesnt deserve any special praise for losing the 5th game so easily.
Talking about exploiting weaknesses, i would like to ask what happened in game 5? Even if Fener was lucky enough to have one player in a career high perfomance, the game wasnt even close. I mean, OLY had the whole team tarketing Dorsey for example and most of the players scoring against him again and again and again, all night long..
* some of the preseason predictions had Fener as a favourite fo the title, i guess because of the high badget, while OLY was questionable even for the playoff qualification or predicted to be placed about the 6th spot. Monaco, Barca And Real, they all have twice or three times higher badget. Hearing you considering OLY as the F4 favourite, i can only make one conclusion: Good job OLY, Well done!!
Itoudi's strategy was good but it is very tiring. Olympiakos in the final game unleashed its players because of how tired fener's players were. Olympiakos had the heart and kept its powers for the final game and thats why we won. Congrats on both teams
Come on man, the only reason this series went to 5 games was because Itoudis game planning perfectly to stifle Olympiakos offense. As we said, his team was 1 Sloukas game winner away from possibly being in the Final 4 right now taking down the undoubtly best team in the Euroleague this Regular Season. His defensive gameplan limited Olympiakos to season lows in offense while Fener had lost by 30 points both their 2 regular season meetings.
I don't know why you're trying to shame Fener for playing good defense.
Better team?
So many garbage comments under this video lol. "Uhmm, defending is bad actually. Real teams attack." That's what your silly comment boils down to. What makes European basketball so great is that every cm of the court is meticulously fought over. Very complex tactics are created to take advantage of every potential advantage. And that's what Itoudis did. He created a plan to limit Olympiacos' offense. And it worked great. Without Sloukas' miraculous buzzer beater, Fener would have won the series. That's what a coach does, create the best chance of winning for his team.
The insane victim complex of the Olympiacos fans are hilarious. You all want so badly to be the underdogs after dominating the whole season. It's not enough to win the trophy, it also has to be an amazing story of the poor little Olympiacos team that overcame all the odds stacked against them. Yeah, only a team with a core of players that have been playing together for YEARS. Such underdogs...
Your videos are the most advanced/in depth reviews I ever seen. TA.
Olympiakos will win EL, fair & square. Fener was ideal to prepare them mentally for the F4.
Spot on!
Well I was a fun of olympiacos I would like to see olympiakos take the trophy 🏆.But the problem is we need to go to the finals first as Sloukas said. How well that can only be achieved if we play as the last game with fener. Every position counts, every rebound, every loose ball. And of course Sasha has to play like MVP.
I think Monaco is the hardest opponent. If we can win them i believe neither Real or Barcelona can stop us.
as a maccabi fan - don't worry
Spot on analysis.
Amazing channel and video.
Thanks a lot!
I don't believe any of the Spanish teams can match up with Olympiacos in the final. If they win Monaco(unpredictable, highly athletic team, great shooters), Oly will probably win their 4th Euroleague title. Bartzokas and Ittoudis are 2 of the top coaches in this game rn. Great series, great chess game from both teams.
Olympiacos gave us again a big lesson...MONEY CAN'T PLAY BASKETBALL!The last decade they are one of the strongest team in EL and they have 1/3 and 1/4 budget compared to the other big teams!
The thing is that for some reason teams that are great during the regular season, rarely win the championship.
i love your videos and generally plays analysis.. love from a panathinaikos fun!
If Sloukas had missed the buzzer beater in game 3, game 4 would have been a totally different story.
It would have been do or die for Olympiakos and that counts.
Everyones telling that olympiacos is out of form.Clearly not.Playoffs and F4 are so closed games that regular season has nothing to do with that ,its a whole different philosophy.We have seen it many times and i have to say Olympiacos hasnt told his last word.Lets be patient!!!
Canaan defense in Game 5 was better than his offense in Game 1. Also, the mind games and fights with Guduric. Maybe I am the only Olympiacos fan who believed Canaan from the beginning.
@@SerDadaşov are you sure? You can´t be ...
How on earth you say that if Sloukas hadnt score the buzzer beater 3pointer Fener would be in the f4?
Game 4 would be another story if Oly was 1-2 back in score...🤷♀
Other than that,nice basketball conversations
A common misconception these days. You're totally right
@@saturnskull1242 brother ,if you remember right , the game which sloukas scored the buzzer beater , walkup lost the last attack ball ,, it was going to win olympiacos that game but as good for Olympiacos cleared the mess (of walkup)
No,they are not the favorites.Fantastic analysis as always!
Thank you very much!
Itoudis with such a big budget built the limoges of 2023 what a fantastic job he has done
Of course we love the team with the lower budget !!!Bartzokas teaches how with low budget can make such a great squad !!Itoudis at offence plays one to one or pick and roll as Bartzokas teaches the new play of basketball!No Camparism for me !that’s the way teams should make
They look less scary and dominant lately though … (I am an Olympiakos fan)
Ι mean they played vs a 40 million budget team that did everything to destroy their game
If they had a remote 35% in three pointers in the matches they would have destroyed fener
Agreed. Before the playoffs they looked like the clear favorites, but now after the fener series it changed.
Fener exposed Olys weaknesses
But lets see. At Final4 anything can happend in win or go home games
This is true. And it is not just in the playoffs. We have been playing below their peak in the last 2 months.
@@ElliottPiano that Budget doesn't mean much. All 3 of the teams we're competing with in the final 4 have a better roster than Fenerbache. You're right about the 3 point percentage but the bad news are we've been bad from 3 for a while now. Still knockout games are both a blessing and a curse at this point it comes down to what team has the better night
All this praise for Itoudis just because he managed to get two wins;
The series ended 3-2 with two easy wins for oly and non for fener.
Even if Kostas didn't get his three pointer there is no chance that Fener could win 3 games in a row against Olympiacos.
hope Oly be in the final with another buzzer beater that s the way we like..Spanoulis style.25% chances for any team !
I think Macambi would be better for OLY in semifinal. Monaco has won OLY twice ,and that means something. Very difficult game.If passes with the Spagnards will be 50-50game.
From the Olympiacos perspective, the game vs Monaco is a toss-up, but with the exception of the horrible inefficiency in open 3pt shots, I see few common threads with the Fener match-up. As for the final, hopefully, Barca vs Real will bleed each other dry.
why people forrget that olympiacos has 1/3 of the fener budget....and fener is only in seed 8 because olympiacos choose them to be last regular season game
why would we talk about Fener in the final four without Sloukas's buzzer beater?His basket was on game 3 not in game 4 wtf are you talking about
True , I don't like that narrative because Oly deserved to win game 2 and was leading for 35 minute's,plus the game was tie in G3 before Walkup had a mental breakdown and Oly had the ball.
@@user-ub6ue3km1b its kind of sad that some people try to convert ifs into facts,i thought this channel was serious.
Olympiacos has a real nice team. It looks like they love to play together as a team and friends. Hope fun will be their medicine for the final four. If you are watching the Spain Teams, they have no fun. They are like bad children, like they prooved it aganinst Partizan Belgrad. Spain can not handle a losing game. Fun should be for all of us in Sports. This is what many fans and some actors do not live. Do you remember when Michael Schumacher destroyed Damon Hills car, just to win? Or a year later he did the same with Villneuve! And the Jury kicked Schumacher out of the F1 for that Year! Remember when Baricello was first had to leave Schumacher pass These are no Sportsmen at all. We all should be happy for the Sport as a Game of fun for all of us. If our opponent is winning because he made a great thing, we should say, wow, the/hey did it like me last time.
They are still the favorites .
Although they didnt look as dominent in the playoffs - So does 2 of the 3 other teams .
Real was about to get SWEPT untill the fighting.
Monaco ? please dont get me started ..
Barcelona was the most impressive in the playoffs but against under equipped heroic Zalgiris , but regular season barca wasnt that impressive in my eyes .
All four teams in the F4 have a great chance to win. Monaco is a very dangerous opponent and I think it is a 50-50 game with them. Lets see what happens. I think it is our destiny to win this season. My godfather, former water polo player, coach of olympiakos and big basketball fan died this year. He watched every game and we would always watch games together and talk about the games. Ironically he hated sloukas, thought he was error prone.
Gate 7
Nice video bro!! Its time now for a new invasion in Kaunas from Olympiacos fans!! Over 10.000 fans soon travel in Kaunas!! Waiting us, Red or dead ))
Thank you. We’ll be waiting
The answer is: No. In final four there is no favourite. Aside from that Olympiakos plays better when they are outsiders.
+Olympiacos are the only ones that will actually be sending fans and will enjoy home court advantage.
rest of the teams fans could share a taxi together
Olympiakos has the best philosophy in Euroleague history! Despite the fact has the lowest budget of F4 teams oly is the hardest team to beat!If Oly wins Monaco which is a High Quality team will get the trophy to Piraeus!
In 11 appearances in F4s, Olympiakos were considered to be the beat team and favourites to win it all four times: 1994, 1997, 2010 and 2013. They made the Final in all 4 of these F4s, but they went 2/4 in lifting the trophy. So this means that they have a 50% chance to win it this season too!!
Olympiacos was never considered to be a favourite in 2013, everyone doubted that they could go back to back.
Chances are 25% for all teams. Olympiakos has to work on teamwork to success while others have more valuable players and higher budgets....no extra chance for olympiakos and I m writing as an olympiakos fan
Bull shit. Olympiakos is the MEGA FAVORITE
Ι think all four final4 teams have the same chances to win. It was the most balanced Euroleague ever. At least other five teams could have their chances if there were present.
OLYMPIAKOS UNTIL THE END......
OLYMPIAKOS 🔴⚪🔴⚪🔴⚪
MPARTZOKAS HE MAKE A VERY GOOD TEAM
It will be sure a difficult semifinal between Olympiacos and Monaco , the reds have problem at 3 pts shoots and that’s for sure sth that monaco can take advantage of , but I think that as last’s year play off series Olympiacos defense on James from walk up and sloukas will be strong and it won’t be so easy for him as it was for guduric to shoot in front of sloukas who was much shorter
You need to make a video about telekom baskets Bonn cl run
Different countries have different budgets. E.g a Spanish club will earn more from the tickets and for sure the will not have to pay fines for putting on flairs in closed stadiums. These action may cost the value of a good player to a club. Sure Olympiacos is doing a great job for their budget, but they have to make sure they don't loose some core players. That has happened in the past and they didn't manage to stay on the top like e.g. Real Madrid does all these years. The Euroleague needs more exposure, better deals with TV channels, better stadiums and better overall product. That will attract higher value players. It's a pitty beacause the basketball level in Europe is pretty high and the style is much more interesting than the NBA. We could use their example on how they have made their league a global sensation. Also national leagues should support even more the promotion of basketball 🏀 at schools so that we produce even more great players from Europe. What I want to say in the end is that it wouldn't harm to have a bigger budget!
It's what many people say, but I think it's a totally wrong point of view. They say without Sloukas' buzzer b. Fener would be in f4, judging from the outcome of 4th game after oly won the 3rd with sloukas' shot. So to explain: supposedly sloukas didn't score the buzzer and oly lost the game. Then game 4 WOULD BE ANOTHER STORY. Nobody can be sure fener would win game 4. Oly could have won game 4, they've done it in the past with Efes.
So to sum up. Oly qualified playing mediocre matches in these series, when fener gave all they got, and still striving to win 2 matches. Oly was clearly a far better team, didn't catch their standards, didn't shoot well but still got what they wanted.
For me Itoudis was lucky because for some strange reason walcup and maquisik were hesitate a lot from the 3point. In regular season they shoot 38% and 50% each....If olympiakos was slightly more efficient at shooting it was going to be way more easy...
Are they favourites to win it all...
They have been the best team of the Regular season and have been awesome in two out of the five Play-Off games. In the other three Fener did their best to stop them and succeeded. But Sloukas scored that impossible buzzer-beater.
Fener (Itoudis) have probably shown the other three F4 teams how to stop Olympiakos (not how to beat though). Olympiakos managed to overcome these tactics VS Fener barely, but will they succeed to repeat this again? Will Monaco, Barcelona, Real Madrid be able to do what Fener did? Who knows??
Another strong point to consider: Monaco gave a hard time to Olympiakos in last season's Play-Offs; harder time than Fener did this season. This season, they are the only team that beat Olympiakos twice!!
So, Olympiakos are the best overall team in the F4. They have proven that on their good day they cannot be defeated by anyone in the Euroleague. But Monaco has managed to best them and knows how to beat them. So, the hard game for Oly is the semi-Final. If they go through, I think that they will beat any of the Spaniards that will find themselves in their way... To close a Season that begun with them defeating 3/3 games in Spain. Beaten Barcelona on Week 1 in Spain and Real Madrid on Week 3 in Spain.
OLYMPIACOS 🔴⚪
In reality, OLY owes a super 3 points show, which will inevitably come. I only hope this will be seen at the final game.
nah, we are not the favorites in my opinion. The 2012 Final Four is the total prove that each team has 25% chances. A team can be the favorite, when the Final Four is being held in its own stadium and has massive support, the players know the best way the baskets etc, for example panathinaikos on 2007, Fenerbahce on 2017, Real Madrid on 2015.
what about yesterdays game
I think that by saying "if Sloukas had missed the shot in the 3rd game, Fenerbahce would probably be in the F4" is some bulshit way of thinking. In that case you don't know what would have happened in the 4th game,where Olympiakos would have one last chance. Change one thing - change everything.
Refs wore Yellow & blue in games 3 & 4 🤡🤣 Still didn’t matter tho! 👍🏻
How Itoudis plan actually exposed Olympiacos?
Fener could easily lose by a lot points diff the 2nd game and would get sweeped.
Except game 3 that both teams were great fener wasn't really giving Olympiacos a hard time
Btw before sloukas buzzer beater walkup did a huge mistake there so we probably shouldn't say "if" and "if"...
You can block Sasha but you can't block Everyone.
Sloukas been terrible whole season and he stepped up...
Theres always one who'll step up
I think its gonna be Barcelona - Monaco at the finals unless regular season Oly shows himself again....They kinda looked out of form in the playoffs and thats the worse time to be out of form
Olympiakos is not “out of form”. It’s just that most of the other teams have adapted to its gameplay since they know what to expect. The way this team if formed we just need to step up on our long range shots. Our whole strategy depends on our capability to make long range shots
@@Mauros-Lykos both actually
@@Mauros-Lykos δεν είναι τα τρίποντα όλο το παιχνίδι του ολυμπιακού φίλε. Δες τα ποσοστά στα ματς με την Φενέρ. Μόνο στο πρώτο σουτάραμε καλά από το τρίποντο. Στο δεύτερο είχαμε ένα μετριότατο ποσοστό και στα υπόλοιπα 3 ήμασταν τραγικοί. Σαφώς και ένα καλό ποσοστό από τα 6.75 θα μας βοηθούσε σημαντικά να περάσουμε στον τελικό, αλλά έχουμε αποδείξει ότι δεν ζούμε ή πεθαίνουμε από το πώς σουτάρουμε.
this oly is the best euro team decade. what a turkey say's: wlou wlou wlou
You forget somethin. Fenerbache has a much bigger badget!!! Olympiacos has the 1/3 of other teams bagdet.
Olympiacos roster is not the best in order to stay in top for all the distance. But they made it! They played amazing basketball and achieved to break fener's home. This team is a miracle....
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No, with monaco is the outsider. If Olympiacos wins monaco then at the final will have a dog fight.
short answer; absolutely not
You talk about the refs in game 5 ... well okay. So let´s talk about the refs in game 3 and 4 - especially game 4. They were 80:20 in favor of Fener. So that´s no point at all.
How you guessing that without that buzzer beater olympiacos shouldn't made it to final four? Lol its like you saying without 24 wins olympiacos wouldn't be at 1st seed 😂
Coaches posing as a proxy 6th player trying to control every move of their team is so old and tired. Better switch to y2k Dimitris.
Sorry pal, but this is how we like our basketball 🏀 in Europe 😅. Don't you love to see the coaches suffering? I think Itoudis did a great job but OLY had a better team
Olympiacos ia never the favorite...🇬🇷🏆😉
Στο Κάουνας ερχόμαστε να σας ….
There is no favourite.
I can’t believe you he traveled terribly and you are saying it is ok for referees to not make the call.They stole the f4 from us
No, you would have stolen F4 from Olympiacos, Itoudis and the coaching staff should have gotten 2-3 tech fouls at each game. So much complaining went unpunished
Dude the refs were on Fener's side on games 2 3 and 4
There is no favourite in final four
well, if they have the usual help from the referees, they are still the favorites. If the referees play 50-50, (which is not expected with this team...), they have no chance, simple as that.
Olympiacos fans are just toxic
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You are not Objective.Sloukas made steps made offansive fouls but EL referees never see it also never want to see.
Oly never favourite neither last year nor this year. Not enough quality and never win cup.
He just said that if the refs gave those steps as traveling, they would have to stop the game every 30 seconds cause everyone makes the same thing. He also said that Sloukas made a foul with his hand when he attacked the rim, but Pier had beat him for a second by using his leg to stop Sloukas.
You lost cause Oly was the better team both in the regular season with the 2 wins against you with 30 points and in the playoffs having 2 wins with 10+ points when your biggest win was with 4 points.
Not enough quality of course, but how proud can be an Oly fan? This low budget team managed to finish first, ahead of teams with 20 million euros bigger budget. Also managed to reach final 4 for second consecutive time. No other team in the world did that as far, olympiakos did it several times in the last 15 years. Fenerbahce won a title with obradovic, the biggest budget and the final four in their court. If Oly is not successful, then what about fener?
You are not objective , you are clearly a Fener fan.
Also, Olympiakos has 3 Euroleague titles, Fenerbache has 1. If Oly "never win cup" then Fenerbache is a non existent club 🤣
How old are you? Olympiakos plays in top european level since 1994.
olimpiacos without refrees is nothing. Spanish and Greek teams are always supported by refrees. Barça will detsroy.
You forget how you played in the 4th game. Short memory you have my friend.
You are clearly blind. In all games that a spanish team playes the referee pushes them for promotion so hard. Get a pair of eyes.
u legit stole game 4. Why would the refs help us when u pay them (turkish airlines) ??
Cry now🇬🇷🏆
The refs are with the strongest.
cant be lost !!! Olibiakos will have 90% fans in stadium ;)
WHAT HAPPENED @BASKETNEWS? LOOK WHAT HAPPENED JUST NOW! WE ARE IN THE FINAL
Olympiakos playw the best Basketball we will win Euroleague Tropthy
I live in Athens and i am from Lamia😀
If we beat Monaco then, it will be an easy final
I'm Olympiakos fan but I have to say don't underestimate the two big Spaniards. It would be very difficult in the final.
There is no easy final. Simply cannot be.
If you think the final is easy, you don’t know anything about basketball
@@loukaskoumariotis5072 Not entirely true. Don't forget for example how Real destroyed Olympiacos in the final some time ago. Also how Olympiacos defeated Barcelona in the final. There are a few easy finals but I don't really believe this one is gonna be easy. The teams are much closer.
@@sardouro83 Go hide you green centipede
asOLY FAN we can not be favorite with 12mil budget..bartzokas plan isgood ball movent and open 3s or cut from sasha and papanikolaou...if the other team play def as boxers(like fener)HOYSTON WE HAVE PROPLEM ,we need 1 guy like last year Dorsey who can give easy points in midle shot area
3 important players of Fener were injured during the play off. Otherwise Oly wouldn't be able to win any game.
bruh
Of course with the referees on their side always remain the favorites but Mike James will beat the referees in friday as he did so many times with them.Lets go Mike go get what you deserve