@BristolRE We have some streetdecks, couple of years old now and I got soaked driving it in the rain as water poured out of a panel above me all over the electric controls and ticket machine. They look nice....but that's it
It appeals to me how there's the natural evolution in buses on this route. Initially, we have the integral Wrightbus Pulsar Gemini 2 DL (fleet name: DW) and now we have the electric successor, the integral Wrightbus Streetdeck Electroliner (fleet name: ES/O).
These buses seem incredibly sophisticated compared with the buses that I drove years ago. I'm glad that I retired when I did because I just couldn't cope with all this technology. I raise my hat to your good self and all the other 307 drivers.
These seats look a lot more comfy than the ones on the E400 EV Cities by GAL. The headrest on those forces your head to be completely level which is quite uncomfortable whereas these ones look a lot more ergonomic. I still prefer the low backed seats on the DWs, the padding and shape is amazing.
Look like a nice bus and great for the environment. I assume the different colour from the little I can see is to indicate the priority seating, same as they have on the jubilee line certainly
It is, yeah. I don't approve of it either, a slightly different shade of green mightve been better. This just looks all worn regardless of how new the seat is
@BristolRE Plus, the ISA system should be banned, because it's very annoying when you're still driving 10mph on the main road! It causes traffic congestion easily!
@@oasisblackcurrant How what? You asking about the ISA? Yes, very dangerous as it takes ages to update. You can leave the stand at Brimsdown as an example, which is 10mph, and still be doing 10mph for the next 200 yards in a 30mph limit. Cars think you are stopping and overtake in a dangerous situation.
I cant lie , These electroliner buses are really Amazing and they are my very 1st favourite buses , I saw an electroliner bus on route 86 on Wednesday at Romford Bus Stand , Once again and overall these electroliner buses on route 307s are better than T Buses
Dublin Bus are getting these soon. I believe their having issues getting planning permission for the chargers in the garages so some of the 2006 ALX400s are staying on the road for longer.
Thanks for the video Peter, I'm not a technically minded person these are just my thoughts and are probably wrong, wouldn't it be a better option to have a hydrogen fuel cell battery hybrid and use the combination of the battery to get the bus going from a standing stop and then the fuel cell takes over, I think the hydrogen cylinders would refuel a lot quicker than charging the battery up.
The buses on the 307 am I right to say the 279 are getting some buses I have being on the new 307 the ouce I've noticed a problem back of the seats have got USBs but they're only on one of the seats If you're sitting with someone you don't know you'll be fighting over to USB socket For the best part the front seats got a USB socket
I knew it wouldn’t be long before you found a few faults. Technology needs a little testing ground before full service. One good thing with London, you’re left alone on the stand unlike up here
No downstairs rear window again. Were lessons not learned late 1990s when the early DLAs had no downstairs rear window? Many passengers complained it was like being in a cave. As a passenger, I for one like to see through the rear window to see if my connecting bus is coming up behind. The TLs (New Routemasters) have no rear upstairs window, so same problem upstairs.
I think the lack of a rear window is to allow more cooling and batteries but I do know that the Optare electric buses do have a rear window but its rather small
I miss the rear window as I used to angle the small cab mirror and use it to see when it was safe to pull out of a bus stop. Now I cant see what's coming up behind.
I've never been asked for any GSCE for a bus driving job. Usually they'll give you a basic English and Maths test at interview, but never been asked if I have a GSCE or other grade - so no, nothing required
Do you like the electric drive? The car I drive during my lessons is hybrid. Whenever it’s in the electric mode I love how smooth it is. That thing with the brake is quite common on EV’s. When you “start” it you have to keep the foot on the brake otherwise the READY light will not come on. (Hence it’s not accelerating) Those alarms in the cab are hideous.
do these have the same door interlock system on the brake pedal like the e200/400 mmc's? i only ask cause we're getting a batch of these at stagecoach for the 86 and wanna know if its gonna be some strange dance to get the thing moving lol
Yes, you have to tap the footbrake after releasing the handbrake - most annoying. Also cannot be moved with any door open, including the cab door, assuming yours are the same as ours
@@BristolRE cab door too? that’s gonna be a pain. i believe they’re the same ones as yours, if not then ours will be the facelift models that have just been released.
@@ajmoff6888 Another issue is changing the steering position. This cannot be done when the bus is running. So if a live changeover of drivers, you have to turn the bus off, engage the ignition using your 'fob' or 'bomb', then adjust the steering column, then start the bus up again.
Nice Peter! I have to say, I’m impressed with how the big bus manufactures like Wright, Alexander Dennis and Optare are doing with their new buses
It is nice, I won't deny
@BristolRE We have some streetdecks, couple of years old now and I got soaked driving it in the rain as water poured out of a panel above me all over the electric controls and ticket machine. They look nice....but that's it
@@majorminor3367 Getting soaked is common. Had those issues in VRs, Metrobuses and the current DWs
Very good video Peter. Nice to see the outside and inside of the new ES buses 🎉
Thanks
Nice video Peter. Good to see a work related video again.
Thanks. Rare to get time at work
The digital mirrors would be a lot better if you could adjust the FOV on them. I find them to be far too narrow and not zoomed in enough
Yes, agree 100%
It appeals to me how there's the natural evolution in buses on this route. Initially, we have the integral Wrightbus Pulsar Gemini 2 DL (fleet name: DW) and now we have the electric successor, the integral Wrightbus Streetdeck Electroliner (fleet name: ES/O).
👍👍
These buses seem incredibly sophisticated compared with the buses that I drove years ago. I'm glad that I retired when I did because I just couldn't cope with all this technology. I raise my hat to your good self and all the other 307 drivers.
Thank You
These seats look a lot more comfy than the ones on the E400 EV Cities by GAL. The headrest on those forces your head to be completely level which is quite uncomfortable whereas these ones look a lot more ergonomic. I still prefer the low backed seats on the DWs, the padding and shape is amazing.
Agreed about headrests
Cool video. J
Keep up the good work. 😀
Thanks
Look like a nice bus and great for the environment.
I assume the different colour from the little I can see is to indicate the priority seating, same as they have on the jubilee line certainly
Yes, I believe so
It is, yeah. I don't approve of it either, a slightly different shade of green mightve been better. This just looks all worn regardless of how new the seat is
Nice video Peter. I’ll be a bus driver soon, so can’t wait to drive one of these buses.
Nice!
@BristolRE Plus, the ISA system should be banned, because it's very annoying when you're still driving 10mph on the main road! It causes traffic congestion easily!
@@TrainBoy-tf9gh I agree, I consider it dangerous
@@BristolREhow?
@@oasisblackcurrant How what? You asking about the ISA? Yes, very dangerous as it takes ages to update. You can leave the stand at Brimsdown as an example, which is 10mph, and still be doing 10mph for the next 200 yards in a 30mph limit. Cars think you are stopping and overtake in a dangerous situation.
I cant lie , These electroliner buses are really Amazing and they are my very 1st favourite buses , I saw an electroliner bus on route 86 on Wednesday at Romford Bus Stand , Once again and overall these electroliner buses on route 307s are better than T Buses
Electroliners are nice to drive as well
Yeah I saw 3 of those in Thornton Heath Pond Arriva Bus Garage.
Nice
Dublin Bus are getting these soon. I believe their having issues getting planning permission for the chargers in the garages so some of the 2006 ALX400s are staying on the road for longer.
😮😮
Thanks for the video Peter, I'm not a technically minded person these are just my thoughts and are probably wrong, wouldn't it be a better option to have a hydrogen fuel cell battery hybrid and use the combination of the battery to get the bus going from a standing stop and then the fuel cell takes over, I think the hydrogen cylinders would refuel a lot quicker than charging the battery up.
I have no idea, but you could be right
Bus 7 is a perfect example since it uses hydrogen versions of these, however i've seen a lot of them breakdown.
@@auntmissedperiod Yes, they have been unreliable
Send some of them Dartfords way please!
Nooooo😂
You can have our reject DWs
Nice video keep it up
Thanks
@@BristolRE you are welcome
Rode this a week ago and it’s so dirty already
Yep, that's the problem with allowing people on board, lol
@@BristolRE I know right and people should learn that the bus isn’t a bin
@@londonbusfanrex 100% fact
Great video I knew you gonna give little bad review I do agree I do not like wooden flooring don't suit the interior Arriva London 😂😂
Lol
I was on the electroliner before and it was good but obivously i didnt bother to be downstairs
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Great video Peter. How are they for acceleration, some of the early electrics were like race cars but I hear tfl have asked them to make them slower?
They accelerate lovely, but do have intelligent speed assist to keep you under the sped limit
Hey Peter great shot of the ES. Would you say the ES is longer than the DW. Short or long wheelbase?
Not really thought about that or compared them.
The buses on the 307 am I right to say the 279 are getting some buses I have being on the new 307 the ouce I've noticed a problem back of the seats have got USBs but they're only on one of the seats If you're sitting with someone you don't know you'll be fighting over to USB socket For the best part the front seats got a USB socket
I believe the 279 is getting the same buses
Could you please go through all the bus routes or what is displayed on the blinds?
Will try to remember to do that
@@BristolRE are they electronic display or power blinds or manual blinds?
Electronic LED things @@COBO2
@@BristolRE thanks 🙏🏿
I knew it wouldn’t be long before you found a few faults. Technology needs a little testing ground before full service. One good thing with London, you’re left alone on the stand unlike up here
Lol
Also, do you think Arriva Enfield North will ever get a Open Day like Stagecoach Barking?
I very much doubt that
Its confirmed that 243 will come to this electroliner
Nice
Actually it’s getting BZL now
Great video! But the real question is: Would you rather these or an e400 T bus?
Only if it's a good one!
No downstairs rear window again. Were lessons not learned late 1990s when the early DLAs had no downstairs rear window? Many passengers complained it was like being in a cave. As a passenger, I for one like to see through the rear window to see if my connecting bus is coming up behind. The TLs (New Routemasters) have no rear upstairs window, so same problem upstairs.
I think the lack of a rear window is to allow more cooling and batteries but I do know that the Optare electric buses do have a rear window but its rather small
I miss the rear window as I used to angle the small cab mirror and use it to see when it was safe to pull out of a bus stop. Now I cant see what's coming up behind.
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but do you drive these 307 buses on a daily basis?
Yes, the 307 is my route. It's the only route I drive and I only work the later shifts
First time I've seen that sort of seats on a gemini. What's the latest early and middle finish you've ever had?
Cannot really recall those kind of shifts
Ok, what about spreads? What time do the later spreads usually finish?
@@mohibj Depends on the route requirements. 121 spreads can finish as late as 2030
Cool, that's almost the same time as the first half of lates on the 121, what about the 279 or 307?
@@mohibj No idea really, out of touch now as I only work 307 lates
We need this on 123
Lol
it would be very difficult for that to happen
Hello. Nice video. I’ve just got a question of course you need English and maths but do you need any other gsce to be a bus driver??
I've never been asked for any GSCE for a bus driving job. Usually they'll give you a basic English and Maths test at interview, but never been asked if I have a GSCE or other grade - so no, nothing required
@@BristolREthank you so much
@@rxccon You're welcome
Do you like the electric drive? The car I drive during my lessons is hybrid. Whenever it’s in the electric mode I love how smooth it is.
That thing with the brake is quite common on EV’s. When you “start” it you have to keep the foot on the brake otherwise the READY light will not come on. (Hence it’s not accelerating) Those alarms in the cab are hideous.
Yes, they are nice and smooth to drive
@@BristolREThat’s great. Is the dash a floating one? I really hate the look of those floating dashboards.
@@v31.48 Yes, unfortunately it is a floating dash
@@BristolRE That’s nasty.
@@v31.48 Yes indeed
do these have the same door interlock system on the brake pedal like the e200/400 mmc's? i only ask cause we're getting a batch of these at stagecoach for the 86 and wanna know if its gonna be some strange dance to get the thing moving lol
Yes, you have to tap the footbrake after releasing the handbrake - most annoying. Also cannot be moved with any door open, including the cab door, assuming yours are the same as ours
@@BristolRE cab door too? that’s gonna be a pain. i believe they’re the same ones as yours, if not then ours will be the facelift models that have just been released.
@@ajmoff6888 Definitely a pain if you just want to move it on the stand
@@BristolRE exactly
@@ajmoff6888 Another issue is changing the steering position. This cannot be done when the bus is running. So if a live changeover of drivers, you have to turn the bus off, engage the ignition using your 'fob' or 'bomb', then adjust the steering column, then start the bus up again.
HI What time will you be driving the Electroliner at Brimsdown on Monday?
Hi. I won't be. It's a bank holiday, therefore Sunday service so won't be any ES buses in service
@BristolRE OK how about Tuesday If you don't mind?
@@Oplsroblox I never mind, but I'm resting Tuesday / Wednesday. The shift I start Thursday is not scheduled an ES
@@BristolRE ok tell me when cause i have am es on roblox its very realistic to the ones in real life and i am mking a north lonodon game
@@Oplsroblox Sweet, unfortunately I wont know until I one turns up
Range anxiety lol nice video
Thanks, Lol
My Birthday ^_^
Nice, Happy Birthday
Do you like your new electric bus
Yes, not keen on the cameras for mirrors though
@@BristolRE oh ok
Peater. Do you prefer The DW Buses Or the Es Buses?
Nice Video and keep It up!
Probably the ES buses, just wish they had proper mirrors on them