Why Everyone HATES The Las Vegas Grand Prix
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- 🏁 The announcement of the F1 Vegas Grand Prix stirred more than just excitement in the Formula 1 community. In this video, we tackle head-on the problems and controversies surrounding the upcoming event, exploring why there's a wave of discontent and why many are expressing their concerns about this unexpected addition to the F1 calendar.
We provide a comprehensive overview of the F1 Vegas Grand Prix, discussing the surprising decision to add this race to the calendar and the initial reactions from fans.
Delve into the reasons behind the widespread discontent among F1 enthusiasts. We explore the key issues raised by fans and critics alike, ranging from concerns about the track to questions about the impact on the sport's integrity. Analyze the specific challenges that the F1 Vegas Grand Prix is facing, from logistical hurdles to doubts about the suitability of the proposed street circuit.
We feature the opinions and comments of fans from around the world, creating a space for a diverse range of perspectives on the Vegas Grand Prix controversy. Discuss potential pitfalls and scenarios that could unfold if the concerns surrounding the F1 Vegas Grand Prix are not addressed, emphasizing the need for transparency and communication. Explore potential solutions that could address the issues and help turn the F1 Vegas Grand Prix into a successful and well-received addition to the Formula 1 calendar.
Whether you're a dedicated F1 follower or simply curious about the controversies in motorsport, this video aims to provide an unbiased and comprehensive look at the challenges faced by the F1 Vegas Grand Prix. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and hit the notification bell to stay updated with all the latest Formula 1 news and discussions. Let's navigate the twists and turns of this unexpected development together! 🏎️🎲🌐
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I think the glitz/glitter/$$$$$$$ side of F1 is overtaking the sport. Obsessive focus on profits and celebrities and their status symbols was bad enough in Monte Carlo (whose shops have also had their issues with the race) but Miami was dumb, and Vegas looks to be a snoozefest with lots of Netflix shiny lights and things that have nothing to do with the sport.
The race is still the race. You don’t have to watch all the cringey crap before or after if you don’t want to. Pretty cool huh
@@presceltolives2076 Wait until you learn about some of the stuff Bernie Ecclestone used to do when he ran F1!
I could not agree more. This is going to be a bombastic sh1tshow circus. It is akin to eating a bowl of grease filled with glitter and vaseline. I have serious misgivings for this race too, the Jules Bianchi kind ..... I am really hoping this will not happen. The pit exit is an accident waiting to happen, the track is slick, no rubber from pre-races and cold temperatures. Prices are off the charts and finally, the race becomes a mere side show with all the adjacent activities. There is nothing akin to F1 in this event ......
@@presceltolives2076 Not really. 99% DRS overtaking is about as cool as a dead granny, huh?
The technical regulation for the cars are bizarre, the tracks are annoying but wait, there's a Netflix series 😂
I wouldn't blame f1 for this, rather the City of Las Vegas for not structuring this better or at least prepare for the obvious issues that a racetrack in the middle of the City would pose. Love your videos keep up the good work
Another problem is that in America there are no alternative mobility options other then cars.
It’s definitely a combination of both unfortunately. F1 have even come out and said they messed up making the race so late
Thank you for answering, let's hope the grand prix will be worth it after all at leas because if not then your video sums the situation up perfectly
America is a continent. But in the US there are cities such as New York where public transit is your best option. Dont group everything together. This is a purpose built tourist destination. Vegas is actually quite walkable. @@njoggerpartei7653
But Americans won’t make that leap of logic. No car equals bad.
A bicycle solves the traffic problems so easily, and the fall weather is perfect for it.
I've never seen such little excitement for a new Grand Prix ever (Saudi and Qatar got lucky with 2021 F1 title fight). The time zones, the track and the lack of a championship to speak of.
Since when a time zone was an issue?
The majority of the F1 audience, who are Europeans, will honestly detest anything even remotely American. When you combine that with Vegas absolutely not being ready, it was bound to stir up F1 fans.😅
I’m very much looking forward to the announcements that what got in Miami turned up by 10000%
@@AdamuDNA 😭
American capitalism 🤮
@@AdamuDNA yes you're right but america has been like that since the 70s. Its just come to the rest of the world now
@@AdamuDNA thats as much down to social media and self obsession as anything else, more genders than brain cells
In 2015 Alexander Rossi was driving for Marussia. Which means that speed was not the last Usa driver before Logan but it was Rossi back in 2015
What concerns me is safety in this race, especially in regards to the barriers because they are removable in order to make the road available during the day but also because aparently the distance between the barriers that have been places and the grandstands is quite small.
That is a huge concern. Most of the movable barriers are in places there shouldn’t be a crash. But at the same time you never know where a crash may happen
The biggest problem of all, is that Americans don't care about F1 in Vegas in 40 degree nighttime weather. They might as well be bringing Rugby.
@stephensegal5187 Oh we do care!! F1 is the greatest sport on Earth and Americans are finally starting to see that thanks to the easier access to watch the races (i.e. streaming platforms/internet)! Yes, you Europeans think it’ll be a crap show but at least the drivers are going to look like the super heroes they truly are.
At any road race the barriers are removable
@@NotApplicableF1Just look at Grosjean
Basically Vegas is going to be shut down for the rich. I feel sorry for the residents and businesses who will get shut out. As much as I would love to see the race live, the crowds, traffic and I'm sure a lot of issues that need to be worked out, will take out all the fun. To see the action for this race I will stick to F1TV.
Vegas is open for the rich and now is shutting down for the rich. Can you never be pleased?
well if F1 took care of the locals (perks/discounts/etc), they might endure the annual chaos
I saw a few people mention this and think it would have been an amazing idea
Imagine planning a bloody Grand Prix without verifying the ambient temperatures of the particular time during the practice/Q/race is held.
FIA priced out most F1 fans, especially in the US. 1069.00 USD is ridiculous for a race day ticket in the bleachers. That being said, I live in Los Angeles and have my flight ticket 174.00 USD return, 600.00 USD for a room overlooking part of the track, but no ticket. Hopefully, a few hours before the start, the resellers will drop their prices.
I'm actually looking forward to this GP. If the race will be good, I'm a happy camper. I'll give this track at least one GP before I complain about it.
Yea everyone being a downer about a race that hasn't even astarted, because why, they've been doing intense construction for a few months on a facility that will be used for 10 years?
A very clean, well-structured and well-scripted video, James! You’ve been on fire recently! I’m also highly skeptical about Vegas, but I hope I’m proven wrong.
Thanks so much! Definitely finding a rhythm towards the end of the season. I’m hopeful that it will go well it’s just been a bit of chaos getting it together
I drive 1,000 miles a week in Las Vegas. Here's my input on a legacy of F1 screw ups:
1) first race should have been 2024, the extra year would have resulted in a much better plan and work could have been done overnight
2) the temporary bridges, installed to allow access to the casinos inside the track perimeter, are the base level solution that could have been chosen. The negative impact, on every other route, of these things completely negates the positive of the overhead roadway.
3) F1 has spent far too much time and effort to assure no one who didn't provide the $50,000 extortion fee could see the race. Had they focused on the core needs of the race, there would not be a two week behind schedule push to get the last REQUIRED items completed.
4) $1,500 to sit on a metal bleacher in frigid temps? Thanks, I'll pass.
5) the driver community will return the giant middle finger that has been F1, by going on vacation during the event. Good luck getting around the city if you don't have a limo arranged. Rideshare and taxis will be less than 40% of normal levels and most of them will service the neighborhoods, and not The Strip.
6) the nonsense ofF1 has been going on here for 11 months. Every street around the Strip, not just the track has been a parking lot for 6 months. It's not just a few days as noted in the video.
7) F1 has been nothing short of total douchebagsthrough the entire process. Every response is 100% focused on the event and show utter disregard for the city and citizens. If the city decides to break this thing, and that is a very real possibility, this could well be one and done for F1. More likely, they will fill the 3 year commitment to race on the Strip, then force it out, or to the existing track.
8) You can't see the glitz of Las Vegas any longer, its all hidden behind bleachers and tacky grandstands. The Strip honestly feels like a prison complex.
9) tens of thousands of visitors have informed the casinos they won't return as long ss this race crap is going on. They've turned Vegas, a city of a thousand entertainment choices, into a one trick pony. But the pain of that one trick is felt for months by people who don't give a rats ass about F1.
10) worst mistake in Las Vegas history and with a 90% local disapproval rating, the politicians know what's coming, and it's not good for anyone supporting future races on the Strip.
11) talking to an F1 official, and he says dismissively, it's the same from locals everywhere we have a street circuit. I replied, yes, but we aren't run by monarchs and we can vote out those who allow this pain. He realized I was right and that F1 may have spent $1 billion unwisely.
I don't know why people keep forgetting about Alexander Rossi who was the real last american diver before sargent and not scott speed by 8 years SSpeed mid 07 ARossi End 15
Lol diver
cause he did like 2 races so it doesn't really count
Quote "I do think it's a shame that a lot of local residents seem to be avoiding staying in Vegas for the Formula One weekend, The whole point was to bring the Grand Prix to them so that they could experience Formula One". What an utter load of bollocks. The whole point was to add It to the calendar to squeeze ever more dollars into the greed filled hands of the ownwers of what has become a bad joke.
I mean that’s very true also. The over arching point is to make money. But I feel like there’s also a want for an American Audience too
@@NotApplicableF1 So why do they want to cover any nook and cranny to stop people seeing it for "free". When you want to promote anything you give out freebies (peeps of FP1,2,3 and qualie) for their FIRST F1 race (keep the locals happy). But no, they have shown their greedy hand again. On F1TV they now force everyone to turn off their VPN's because people in some countries are illegaly watching the races. So I have to turn off my first line of computer security because they haven''t got the brains to introduce two factor identification ? Banks and Credit Cards can do it but not the technically advanced F1 clowns ? I told them to F**k off.
Rubbish, the whole point is to make money for F1
@@glynchallinor1874 And the best way to do that is by providing great products and services. The freebies are at the front end the profit is at the back end. It's called good marketing.
Where might be these locals staying?
The first time on a race track is a challenge. Look at Monaco, everything is there and they are building the race track in a few weeks without the city being locked down.
Monaco is another great example of a street circuit where the city has it planned out after year of trying and it works
@@NotApplicableF1 Are you trying to compare Monaco that had a race in the first(1950) and every year of F1 with a track and city putting together their first in the 21st Century?
I don't understand. How do they have any right to force any building that could see the track out of their window to tape it up? If it's your property and your window then it's a private premises belonging to you not the FIA. If they came to my door and told me to tape up my window they'd be told where to go.
The way I understand it was if you disagreed they would erect a scaffold barrier in-front of your building to block your view, the larger hotels that would be impossible so they had the most bargaining power
@@liljasere I would have taken it down.
@@Fireglo you wouldn’t be able to it would be a scaffold tower on the street not on your land
@@liljasere watch me.
As an east coast American fan I’m still hopeful it’ll be a great night. I watch every race anyway regardless of time zone so being up late on a Saturday is no issue.
Imagine Silverstone racing at 10 pm (22:00) and later in spring or fall.
I don't think the Las Vegas race is for people from the U.S.. Live viewership here will be low because of the incredibly late (and unpleasant) session times, especially for the mid-west and east coast. Who wants to wake up and watch a replay of a live event in your country? What an odd way to go after new fans here.
it's not about spreading f1 into the us. it's about generating money for the casinos and hotels.
Most F1 races are at 3-4 am in the US and you think staying up til 1 am is bad. I'd rather stay up than go to be at 7 pm for any other race.
@@leebomccool8997 Depends on where you live. Few races are at 3-4 am here. It was a stupid decision for race fans.
@@joeofoysterbay7197 East Coast.
1:37 "Logan Sargeant who hasn't been amazing" ... quite the understatement as he has been by far the worst this season. It baffles me he still has a seat.
Yeah I was just being kind 😅 he has definitely been amongst the worst drivers pretty much every weekend
Because of the soil he was born on
@@MaxskiSynths The USA has about 334 million people. Is Logan Sargeant really the best they could come up with?
@@freudsigmund72
He is the best who was prepared to come to Europe and race the feeder series.
@@freudsigmund72 Apparently so..
Everything about Vegas is the strip, so making it into a race track is going to cause all these problems, somebody had to have brought this up in a meeting.
An "I told you so" moment happening.
They need to run Miami now and Vegas when they run Miami. It's starting to cool down a little in Florida now, and Vegas may be too cool.
A friend and I were talking at the beginning of the season about the number of races and the dates, and we talked about Pirelli needing to make a snow tire for the cars.
Hmm but you just said exactly why they had to do it this way. “Everything about Vegas is the strip”.
@@rxw5520They tried to make F1 the only game in town, in a city that is all about different types of entertainment.
Close down the strip, and make a race track out of it, is bringing everything to a grinding halt, it's no wonder people aren't happy.
I was never really convinced from the get-go that Las Vegas and Formula 1 could ever really work, and it's unfortunate that all of the talk leading into the Grand Prix has been pessimistic at best and outright dismissive at worst. There are a few reasons for how we got here and why this street race in Las Vegas will not be like the rest of the street circuits on the calendar.
Currently, Formula 1 races on street circuits in Saudi Arabia, Australia, Azerbaijan, Monaco, Canada, Singapore, and the United States. Melbourne, Monaco, and Singapore are staples of the modern calendar, which has afforded the organizating bodies for those events plenty of time perfect their craft. Montréal is technically a street circuit, but it's on an island in the middle of a river that wouldn't be traveled to by car if it weren't for the casino that's there. There are no busy streets that need to be closed off for the Grand Prix, and it's very easy to take public transit and walk to the circuit. The Saudi and Azerbaijani governments could care less about what the residents of Jeddah and Baku think about the Grands Prix they host, regardless of the logistics - they are autocratic governments (and that's putting it kindly) whose residents have little to no political rights or the power to put a stop to their governments from hosting a Grand Prix on a street circuit in a major population center.
Las Vegas, and Miami by extension, have a whole host of factors working against them from FOM's perspective. For one, they're in the United States, and while the USA is a flawed democracy at best, the concerns of residents are still a major consideration for local and state governments, especially when those governments are looking to host major events in major population centers. Note that numerous "NIMBY" residents in both Miami and Las Vegas have made their opposition to the Grands Prix loud and clear, even long before the first races have been held, and they will continue to do so unless they can bear witness to benefits of running Grand Prix. Elected officials' jobs are on the line here if everything goes sour.
The problem is, Miami and Las Vegas street races are uniquely positioned to turn sour compared to the rest of the street circuits on the calendar for reasons other than local opposition. Both of these cities, like most of the United States, boast woefully inadequate public transit systems. If one doesn't have a car to get around, there is no getting around in a time efficient manner. Having a car in these cities is a necessity because of car-centric urban planning, so it goes without saying that the roads in these cities, ideally, need to be kept open at all times. Miami kind of gets away with it since over half of the circuit is in a massive parking lot, but Las Vegas won't get away with it for all the reasons that have been explained in this video. Ultimately, I think the vision of a street race along the Las Vegas Strip will prove to be far more attractive on paper than in practice.
If I was the head honcho at FOM, I wouldn't outright dismiss the idea of running street races in the United States, but I think the more responsible way to approach the idea would have been to try to organize a Grand Prix at already existing street circuits, ideally with an exstensive history of racing. On the east coast ... Ha, good luck with that! ... However, the west coast does have an intriguing potential option, and one that's pretty much a stone's throw away from Hollywood for the glitz and glamor factor.
In clearer terms, I would have tried everything within my power to bring Long Beach back onto the Formula 1 calendar, and tried to organize a double header alongside IndyCar and the other support series that accompany it. Sure, it's entirely possible that Long Beach wouldn't be able to build the pit and paddock infrastructure that the FIA requires for Grade 1 certification, but, as far as I'm concerned, it would absolutely be worth looking into at the very least. The Long Beach Grand Prix has been an annual event since 1975. Local officials continue to support the races there and residents have been either supportive or accepting of their existence ever since.
Eh, I dunno. I'm just a terminally online young'un who thinks his opinion is worth something in some conversations. Hopefully, the Las Vegas Grand Prix proves me and the rest of the fanbase wrong, but I'm not confident that it will.
Good post, I actually read it. You named a lot of street circuits but only 7 of them are on the 2023 calendar. Now looking at the local government and residents you must realize that the Strip is in Clark Co. and not the city of Las Vegas so the only government entity that comes into play here is Clark Co. Clark Co. has 1M people and if it was considered a city it would be twice as large as LV and the largest in the state. So yes they will have detractors to this race but their concern is getting the funds for the things the other 985K residents want like better roads, parks for their kids and reduced costs of services. And with a projected billion dollar plus 3 day economic impact on the 51st worst weekend on thee Strip yearly that will double the economic impact of any average 3 days a year I'm sure all those officials and residents think it's the best thing. And that's just during the race weekend. Not counting the 240M for the land the paddock cost 250M to build and that money went into the local economy.
Now it's true public transportation isn't particularly fast or efficient but it's really not supposed to be. It will get you from point A to point B at a reduced cost and not require you to spends thousands on a vehicle and insurance that you can't afford. BUT in this instance they aren't closing down a thoroughfare because the Strip is used basically to just get you to the Strip. No one uses the strip to get to somewhere on the other end of it because it would take forever when 2 blocks away you can travel unimpeded on another street. Sure during this construction the visitors and some stupid locals are going to get hung up in traffic but pretty much every worker on the Strip can get to work without ever driving on the Strip.
Now for other circuits. The only circuit in America that is Grade 1 not running an F1 race is Indy. And even though Long Beach ran F1 in the past I don't think it could take on 2023 F1 cars and be sufficient. I also think there are many aspects of the track that no longer meet regulations. Not that I wouldn't find it an exciting proposition if it could be brought up to standards.
Your opinion definitely matters when you can speak it clearly without all the attacks and assumptions. I personally didn't watch his video because in his details writing he basically trashed the race and then in his last paragraph said the video aimed to provide an unbiased look so I just laughed at him and came to the comments. If you watch come back and comment on what you thought, I'd like to hear your perspective.
My thought is that Singapore and monoco are streamlined now, so Vegas will get over the teeething
If I want to watch a F1 race in the US. I'd rather go to Austin were I can see more of the course instead of one small portion. Let's admit it that the Vegas race is more for the TV audience.
That's great that Austin is small enough to see more of the track but at 95% of them you just see the portion where you are, that's why they all have the huge screens in those areas.
At least NASCAR didn’t go around covering up windows in Chicago 🙄
And F1 isn't covering up 10s of thousands of seats like they do here in Charlotte or just rip out 80,000 like they did at LVMS.
@@leebomccool8997 NASCAR was huge, lost a lot of star power in the last 20 years, and are rebuilding… They still get better ratings in the US than F1.
What track is in the background? Great video!
Thanks so much! It’s Singapore 🇸🇬
Nice explainer - well done!
There will be a ton of overtaking, the cold weather will increase the strength of the tow significantly
That blocking the view on walkways is just un-American. By contrast, at Oracle Park in San Francisco there are fences in the outfield where the nonpaying public can watch the baseball game. It's a terrible view but people get a glimpse to the action in the park. F1 has always had a Eurodouchy vibe.
What?! The overpasses at Road America are blocked, you don't want people blocking a bridge, that's a safety and operations at a race track thing.
Having said that, no races should be held in cities. Stick to purpose built tracks F1, Indycar...and now NASCAR.
There are still tickets available! When have we ever seen that during race week?
Well Abu Dhabi still has tickets for next week so check then and see if they still do.
It is sickening that residents literally get blocked, locked in, and excluded from their own city
Nice Alcatrazian post.
What an american thing to say.
i must have missed all the hype - I mean, i heard the media telling me how hyped it was, but i never actually saw or heard any hype. I saw pretty much the same level of exposure as any new to calendar track construction has had
I'm a Vegas local and a big F1 fan and...I"m not going. First off they've priced themselves right off the planet. The "cheap" bleacher seats are around $1200 and those with a decent view are as much as $10,000. VIP areas start at $10,000. Start!! KMA FIA. I drove down to the SEMA convention last week and I DROVE ON AN F1 TRACK. At 3mph. "3". Traffic in the entire Strip area is catastrophically bad. The City and FIA are doing this exactly right to suck the most money from the attendees and to aggravate the locals. Well done!! If you goal is to make this "event" painful...you have succeeded beyond your highest expectations!!
That’s a real shame. You’re not the first person I have spoken to that is disappointed in the entire event. Do you think there is any way to salvage it for next year?
@@NotApplicableF12024 Las Vegas race Improvements
1. Start the race at a time acceptable to Americans, not the Europeans. I DVR the European races so I can watch them when I’m available, so can they. This has created a lot of negative perception that the FIA couldn’t care less about Americans.
2. Don’t take MONTHS blocking traffic to put up grandstands and other viewing locations.
3. Don’t go all anal about blocking *all* viewing locations that haven’t paid something to the FIA.
4. Have special prices for Las Vegas valley locals and perhaps access to special locations.
5. Compensate the local businesses that have to be shut down or have limited access because of the race.
6. Provide inexpensive or free shuttle service to staff for businesses that the track has made essentially inaccessible.
I think the reason why Singapore is working well because 2 reason
1. Singapore GP isn't located in the most crowded road in Singapore.
2. Singapore have better mass transport design and more pedistrian oriented compared to Las Vegas.
Im not singaporean please correct me if i wrong
F1 belongs on a racetrack period. Street circuits rarely showcase what F1 cars can do. Monaco, Baku, Miami were boring, no passing. The disruption to a city is huge and Vegas is probably most subjective to infrastructure upgrades needed to meet F1 standards.. 10pm start? Every time I been to Vegas in Nov its been cold at nite..did no one check seasonal night time Temps?
F1 management's greed will not serve them well. That, and their lack of forecasting desert nights in November is all setting up to make this a potential stinker. Although I hope not.
It isn't the greed of F1 management that is the issue. It is the media rights holders: Liberty Media greed which is the issue.
@@madMARTYNmarsh1981 I believe it's the same entity.
@@chrispraz877 It is. This is also the only race that F1 has ever had the race rights so everything being done to put this race on is being paid for by them.
People living in Mexico DF, particularly where the track runs, have nearly the exact same opinions, criticisms & gripes shared with local Vegas residents.
Organizers or comites of Vegas and the city of vegas,(public employees) should get in touch with Singapore affiliates to have a better understanding on how to prepare a city like Vegas for F1.
They will be learning a lot from this year
I can see the Vegas locals the next morning going on social media and trash talking
First time viewer, first off your clickbait title is simply false, but you know that. Many people are very excited, many locals are frustrated about traffic around the circuit area, that is expected. A lot of tickets were sold at high prices, a number of tickets were bought on speculation of being able to re-sell and make money, they are losing money generally speaking.
I predict there will be a few more issues but they will race and be successful and be back for more for years to come. Maybe one day we will again see a competitive race in the later part of the season!
Clickbait is always a tightrope on CZcams but I feel like I tried to justify the title in the middle portion of the video. The reselling market is an interesting one for this as I am not sure they have even sold out yet so the resellers definitely won't be making anything at this rate
They should have known Vegas was cold at night this time of year. I've been there when it's colder than where I live up north in WA State this time of year, so this shouldn't be a surprise.
66F at race start. I've never considered that cold in Vegas.
Uh, no, it's not going to be 66° at 10 pm, 50 if they're lucky 🤣
@@charliepalmer3244 Let the weather people know your prediction because you guys aren't on the same page.
Sunday AM we'll check back, see how it t went. Lol, it gets dark around 6 in Vegas this time of year, and will barely hold 50 after sunset, dont need a whether con to know that.
They should race this track during summer season. Dealing with cold tires is never fun unless Pirelli developed the tires that works well for very low temps tracks.
Hopefully they’ll be able to rectify the heat issues from the 80s
There is only one week every year that is worse in Vegas economically and now it's going to be the best. Why would they put it during a good week in the summer? But I too hope Pirelli comes with their A game, if not this year then next. It might take one race to see what compound is really needed.
F1 realized that the weather wasn't warm this time of year they may move it to a different time of the year maybe spring or summer which is a easy favorite
@@retroguy1976 That would be bad economically for Vegas as this race is projected to triple or quadruple what Vegas normally takes in on this weekend annually. And after p2 I heard a lot of drivers talking about how they liked what the track was feeling like. Hamilton sounded pretty giddy about it.
F1 does not care one bit about the American races being on a Monday for the rest of the world. Or else they would have changed Cota and Miami timings too.
The Miami GP only started at like 8:30pm Sunday night in the UK which is way more accessible than 7am on a Monday morning
Las Vegas is just going to be like another street race. Any complications that Baku, Singapore, Monaco, etc bring to businesses and locals will happen in Las Vegas too. I don't really understand the reason to complain so much, we are used to seeing this happen. I'm excited because this race is brand new to everyone so the grid can be shaken up quite a bit.
I thought Chicago Nascar would fail, it didn’t…..this seems different.
Why did you think it would fail?
@@NotApplicableF1never watch nascar it seems
@@NotApplicableF1 This looks like they’re not ready, the Chicago Nascar race was a free event. This is all about $$$. Could be fast and dangerous. Anything could happen.
@@NotApplicableF1 Because Nascar itself is failing. If you don't think covering up 10s of thousands of seat at most of their tracks or just ripping them out like they did with 80,000 at LVMS isn't failing then you and Stevie Wonder have a commonality.
@@mwdrum No the Nascar race in Chicago wasn't a free event, not sure which genius told you that and you believed him.
NASCAR did not answer questions about how many tickets have been sold, but spokespeople told the Tribune “nine sections of reserved seats were sold out as of Friday.” There are 20,000 reserved seats and 30,000 general admission tickets for the two-day event, the Tribune reported.Jun 30, 2023
I for one hope this fails. Liberty has gone to far with their ideas. The big issue is F1 wants to be glamorous instead of racing. Just give me 10 races in Spa, 10 in Monza and 1 in Monaco. The one in Monaco is just there to annoy me but seeing the hairpin and the tunnel makes it worth it. Monaco also actually has real money and half the grid lives there
BACKGROUND MUSIC TOO LOUD!
Sorry to shout but I hope you could hear me because it was hard to hear you....
Sorry still learning 😅 I’ll adapt it for next time
There is another possible fly in the ointment .... the strike threat from cooks and waiting staff for the F1 weekend. To be honest I couldn't care less about F1, the grids are too small and it really isn't a drivers competition it is a technology competition. I much prefer the close racing you get in FormulaE and Indycar.
Sorry no flys for you, labor deal made.
None of the locals like the street circuits, especially in the first year when all the construction happens. They will get used to it and love it
I really hope that you’re right or we could see some real problems moving into next year
turn 10,12 and 17 arent high speed? i dont know what is
They are but the shape won’t help too much with tyre temperature because they’re basically flat
Just a note - lv’e lived in Charlotte, NC for 7 years….and have seen a massive exodus of interest in NASCAR….and this city is home to the NASCAR Hall of Fame. The NASCAR base is disappearing - Covid lockdown certainly didn’t’t help - and there is not a lot of interest from the Millennials and other Gens in the sport. F1 picked a bad time to look for inductees info it’s franchise. NASCAR is a good old boy network sport with generational handed-down interest. Especially in the South…F1 is looked at as an Elitist sport that isn’t inclusive of country guys who hop up their F150’s….no matter how loud those damn F1 machines get - it isn’t really the siren’s call to Southerners steeped in years of NASCAR.
OK I've lived here for 60 years give or take the time I've lived in Vegas and Cali and that some outsider that has been here 7 years thinks there's even a comparison between Nascar and F1 is hilarious. I'm just going to stop there before I say things that are true but mean.
Most of NASCAR fans are Americans and only race around America. F1 fans are worldwide and they race around the world. You can't compare F1 to NASCAR.
You said "...and later IndyCar...". Although the "IndyCar"sanctioning body came after NASCAR, open wheel racing at Indianapolis and other speedways under other sanctioning bodies predate NASCAR by MANY years. Indy car racing has been around A LOT longer.
IndyCar's been around that long, the real change has been the sanctioning body, first the Triple A board, then USAC, then CART (with USAC being in that bizzare situation of sanctioning the Indy500 while CART sanctioned the rest of the season), then with the split the IRL began sanctioning it after USAC dropped the ball one time too many.
Not a fan of street circuits personally in F1. Not even dusk or night races 🤔
Dude i thought it was gonna be at the speedway infield course. Then i heard it was on the strip smdh.
here in brazil this race will be 3am :((
It’s not looking good but I will reserve judgement until it actually happens. My biggest gripe is the time, I live in the east coast and the race time is the least convenient of all of the races somehow.
How is it more inconvenient than the races that start at 3 and 4 am?
@@leebomccool8997 I guess it’s not more inconvenient. But just as. It’s like it starts at a time is is exactly too late for me to watch. It was was at midnight I could but 1am-2:30am+. The fact that it’s in my country and at this time is what makes I feel worse
@@gmfan09 Yeah it's not ideal and hopefully they can move it up a little into the future but at least it doesn't honk up my work sleep schedule.
Public transportation is not nearly as advanced as the majority of European cities that host races in downtown districts. With Vegas having only buses, taxis, and road bound vehicles as a means to commute, it's no wonder that small businesses will suffer when all these modes of transportation will be shut down within the area. I can't imagine the dysfunction that downtown residents have to endure for months of construction without such modes of transport.
they have a monorail too but it doesn't go far in the city starts at mgm grand to the strat be nice if it was expanded maybe to the airport
Its definitely been a shame how this has gone down since the first announcement. As a Vegas resident I know very well how unpopular its become now. If we get a boring race like Miami all of this will be a waste.
F1 need to add the Long Beach Grand Prix to the calendar again.
So they want to put the track in the middle of the city and then isolate it from the city around it?
Locals hate it. I go in April to avoid the summer crowds from Cali. Must avoid this. Cant imagine the porta potty lines there are no public bathrooms
Yeah everyone in casinos just hold it.
I didn’t realise Las Vegas had so many problems going into the race weekend. All these recent F1 videos that I’ve watched, it’s made me have doubts about F1 being in Las Vegas, however I’m happy to proven wrong
Me too. A lot of the coverage from other CZcamsrs has been pretty bad b it I am hoping it’ll be okay
I’ve watched a few vlogs about the Vegas GP and unfortunately there hasn’t been much good said about it. There seems to be a severe lack of consideration for the people and businesses of Vegas which disturbs me. I’m all for bringing the USA and more fans to the sport, but not like this. It’s to much about glitzy glamour and not enough about racing. Seriously, I hope it is a massive failure.
Yeah the vloggers get way more attention if their vlogs are negative. A little more research will find you plenty of stories about all the good.
Ate you seem to have forgotten 2 thing the Indy Car of today races a lot more on race track and less ovals making the Indy 500 even more important and impactful. Also thanks to Zack of McLaren unified both his teams to have same name race both in Indy and F1…why everybody in Indy knew who Alonso was when he drove in Indy 500. Then F1 used race in US but thanks to Bernie greed Long beach went Indy instead and raced at Watkins Glen and Detroit and the ill fated Las Vags track in the 80s , Dallas . Problem was F1 really did not care too much about USA unlike now where they trying . Then there still a bitter taste in America after what happened at Indy over the Tyres people Not forgotten . If F1 is successful is an ironic twist is not coz F1 but Indy Cars racing on track getting American more used Non Ovals you will see Even NASCAR are racing on race tracks now too .
For people who dont know, vegas' workforce isnt representative of the ticket prices. A lot of them live out of motels and/or situations they could never afford a ticket.
Desert is cold at night lol
why can't the hotels just not pay is there a law that says they have to pay or cober up?
You failed to mention the potential strike by the hospitality workers union
I only just saw this. That could be very awkward!
Imagine pitching a grand prix as a way to reach out to American fans, and then doing everything you can to alienate American *and* European fans at the same time
Let us know when that happens.
So far after Thurs/Friday first practice, a total sheet show.
One thing about covering the walkways, they do that at every track and they are usually also guarded. Mostly so that people don't bunch up and cause issues or throw stuff on track. But covering all the windows is just straight up greedy in my opinion.
U can't imagine 3 million tourists a month , 100,000 employees , 148,000 cars on the strip a day , 2 tempary bridges put together and taken down umention cold weather for the then the heat and heavyequipment 105,000 people a day tell all yhose fu
The track layout looks awful for racing, it comes across as a cynical cash grab and Vegas itself (having been there a few times) is a tacky fake hellscape.
The races in the south made more sense as there is an existing motorsport audience there and tracks to suit - COTA is always fun.
The thing that annoyed me was they put in an extra couple of turns near the globe so it’s in more pictures 😅
Is Monaco this rectally impacted?
It is not but they have a lot of practice
As a Vegas local this race has made me hate f1 as an organization. I think the sport is cool but how they treated us makes me not ever want to support them.
The whole idea of America is a big country it should have multiple races annoys me,
like Australia is equally as big why don’t they get 2 races one in Perth, one in Melbourne,
china is a big country with a huge population they only had one race
it’s so annoying why people use that argument when there are other countries who suffer just as much from long distances to tracks than the US does
hell even Canada could do with 2 races with that logic.
And I would rather just have tracks like sepang and portimao on the calendar instead of
I agree with you. I think there should be more of a spread of tracks globally rather than the massive amount of European races. But then you run into logistics of which tracks to keep and which to get rid of
1:34 What abaut Alex Rossi?
I always wondered why didn't they use the already-established facility that is the Las Vegas Motor Speedway. I'm no NASCAR/Indycar viewer by any means, but I am well aware of its existence.
EDIT: I forgot to add that they shouldn't use the oval variant, but rather create a road layout much like what they did in Daytona.
I have seen INDY on the road course. I thought the same thing. I think they chose the strip for the spectacle and didn't concern themselves of who it would effect. At one time they had a street race on Fremont Street with Champ Car's. I think F1 is really trying to get the American audience for F1 so they went big. It's a gamble IMHO, it has the potential to be pretty chaotic. It will definitely be interesting.
Good post. LVMS being an oval can't be used because F1 doesn't run ovals although there are other FIA series that do on FIA licensed tracks. As far as LVMS goes they have 3 road courses that would need to be connected and licensed Grade 1 for an F1 race otherwise an entirely new course would need to be built for a Grade 1 license. LVMS has torn out 80,000 seats and barely filled 40,000 last month for a Nascar playoff race so it still looked partially empty. I'm not sure of the reason for the drop off of LVMS but the average cost to build an F1 track is 270M plus associated fees and I don't think a builder could recoup his money with a track out there, although a Grade 1 track can be used for races of all lower FIA grades. So Moto GP plus all GT levels could race there. Here is a great website that give a rundown on the complexities of the requirements to hold an F1 race. us.motorsport.com/f1/news/fia-track-grades-requirements-f1-potential/6508331/
Blame the Casinos for not payibg their workers a living wage.
I think they F'd up big time by investing so much money into the LV set-up. People are pissed - the track looks quite boring and the schedule is shite. I won't be watching live unfortunately (East Coast). And watching a recorded race takes quite a bit of excitement out of it.
Sad excuse for a racing series. When the grid walk is the most important part of the race it says a lot.
"In front of some of the most iconic places in the US". Like the Arc de Triomphe and the Eiffel Tower !
F1 is about money first and racing second. Hence the current obsession with America. Just like its previous obsession with oil-rich countries. The quality of the racing is ALWAYS the last thing on its mind, as has been shown over and over again. Alonso holding off the Red Bull B driver last weekend was the only actual racing I've seen this year. I obviously don't count DRS overtakes facilitated by fastest car, strategy and tyre choice, where a computer simulation would be equally as 'exciting'. F1 is up its own arse now, and no number of American flag waving narcissist Hollywood 'stars' gonna fix that!
One thing we can be sure of is that whatever happens they will claim it was a huge success. The Sky F1 team have probably been given their script already to tell those of us watching on TV how exciting the atmosphere is. This event is a step towards F1 being entertainment over sport. I'm a Dan Ricciardo fan but as he said in an interview on American TV recently, a lot of people think he is an actor. F1 races should be on dedicated race tracks. The exception being Monaco which we all know is incredibly boring as an actual car race, it's just a party for the rich and famous. F1 doesn't need to host more parties.
The races are still the same… there’s only glitzy pre-race shows and post shows. Also, the internet magnifies all sports in a “showy” way. You don’t have to tune into the drivers lives outside of the race.
@@presceltolives2076 I don't consider the races to be the same myself. I find races on street circuits tend to be less interesting from a race perspective. Silverstone, Monza, Interlagos, Spa, COTA and so on have all been designed with a single purpose. This circuit in Vegas along with Monaco, Albert Park, Singapore, Baku have to try to make a race track out of existing roads around buildings. They can't make changes such as banking a turn or opening up a corner like you can on a race track if you find the original design isn't quite working.
I totally support promoting F1 all over the world, just don't turn the actual races into promotional events. Mark Webber once drove an F1 car over the Sydney Harbour bridge so there is no reason not to have one or even a few cars screaming down the Vegas strip. But just do it for a couple of hours on one night rather than close part of the city for three days or more.
@@JMRope Where did you get you can't bank a turn?
@@leebomccool8997 well ok I guess you can make as many changes as you could anywhere else so long as you're willing to accept the consequences of causing major disruption to a city.
@@JMRope The point is they aren't going to bank the Strip but if they wanted one in turn 5 it would be simple to build one over the existing street and then just remove it during deconstruction of the track and no one would know the difference and there isn't any disruption. How is it that so many people are thinking Jeannie was just going to wiggle her nose and a completed track would appear? It's weird to me how people don't know how basic life works.
The Vegas locals are PISSED off.
I think Liberty Media is trying too hard with their Americanization of Formula One and the Las Vegas GP is no exception. They are hell bent on making it a spectacle like the NFL (the so called America's pastime) for example is (especially the Superbowl with all the celebrities and concerts during the halftime break). However, this annoys a sizeble chunk of the F1 fanbase, who have been fans for years and see the races in Miami and Las Vegas for what they really are - pure marketing stunts for Liberty Media to cater to a casual audience that may care for a while, but will most likely tune out when the 'next big thing' comes (IMO the 2026 FIFA World Cup will be that). To me this culture clash will only get worse if Liberty keeps going like this.
I hope at least F1 give the locals 'compensation' for disturbing their everyday lives for helding this event by allowing them watch it for free from anywhere on site but the grandstand.
If people of Monaco can get it, why Las Vegas locals can't?
"NASCAR and later IndyCar"
IndyCar has been around since 1911....
It was such a cynical choice. They picked the 2nd slowest week in Vegas. That’s it. Boost traffic on a slow night. Every other poor choice follows from there.
At least the next two years won’t have the disruption of all the original construction.
So lame, locals dont even know the construction is going on, the Raiders Stadium made more traffic issues than F1, NO Locals go to the strip, only tourists. right now it is 55 degrees F, at midnight,
I’ve never been so just have to go off what I am seeing on other videos and podcasts but thanks for clarifying
It’s going to be about 38 degrees F, or less! This sucks for the drivers and spectators. This is just about the spectacle. I am glad the drivers championship is not on the line so the drivers don’t have to push.
Where did you get your meteorological degree since those that actually have them are forecasting 55 degrees?
I love it, and frankly can’t wait. You should fix your title.
I swear to gosh, they didn’t even use the damn track yet..
i really hope youve got this wrong and the weekends gonna be great... but i think youll be right..
I hope that I am wrong too 😂
Thats not a problem of the Grand Prix is a problem of the american road design,(lack of) public transports, and build stores abaut comutings by car.
I think f1 blocking the view from walk walkways is more about safety
Walkways I understand but hotels and restaurants that overlook the track seemed a bit much
@@NotApplicableF1oh ya definitely
@@200PingYT what I don't get is how do they have any right to force private properties that happen to overlook the track to tape up their windows? If they came to my door and told me to tape up the window they'd be told where to go.
@@FiregloI think that is very stupid and unnecessary
Brasil is also an American Racetrack
As a Vegas resident, I hope the race goes terribly wrong and the idiots who stole my tax dollars never see the lights of our city again.
You would be amazed what a small blowtorch does with that film while also extending ones reach 😇
Of course an F1 race (in a MAJOR city) should be organized with only benefits, and NO associated costs... easy
I like f1 but enjoyed it more in the 2000's when schumacher and juan pablo were racing the v12 cars would I go to vegas to watch this nah if I want to take out a loan for a hotel and just to see the race itself let alone the airfare