Why is Tanzania forcing the Maasai off their ancestral lands? | DW News
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- In northern Tanzania, claims of forcible eviction from the Maasai community have sparked protests in a growing fight with the government. A Maasai delegation is currently in Europe, seeking international help to stop the authorities from moving Maasai communities out of Loliondo, near the Kenyan border, and the Ngorongoro Crater conservation area, which is a UNESCO World Heritage site. Both areas are famous for high-end safari tourism, which contributes significantly to the economy, and the Tanzanian government says they must be protected. But the Maasai claim the decision to relocate them from these lands has destroyed both their lives and livelihoods.
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Before there were government laws and rules the land was occupied by the tribes
It is always about money, and whoever is behind this could care less about the Maasai. The ambassador appears disingenuous at the very least.
When interviewing a lying Tanzanian ambassador you must be properly prepared. He wasn't even questioned about the brutal and illegal military eviction and demarkation operation in Loliondo, and further efforts to steal their livestock, after having stolen most of the Maasai grazing land.
The system in place has worked thus far for millenia. Obviously, the external influence being imposed has proven negative consequences. Why not expand on the existing system that is proven instead of adopting an external model that has shown negative impacts on indegenous communities worldwide? African leaders apparently dont trust their own proven solution and by extension, inventions thereby trashing their own to plunge their countries further down a hole they did not create. By the time they realize they followed the wrong model, they will be too far down the pit to be able to climb back up to the top all because they did not trust their own proven model, choosing instead to adopt a foreign " kaburu" model that works for the kaburu but doesnt work for indegenous natives or wanainchi. Case in point, mtalii ni nani? Mchaga ama Mmasai ama ni mzungu?
It's too bad they didn't think to give her an ear piece with a separate translator translating what the host and lawyer are saying to each other. She is completely cut off from the discussion between the two men. So, if she has something to add or correct, she can't do so.
That^s what I thougt. Also very impolite from the Host.
I noticed.
Oh, how virtuous. You are the hero she has no use r benifit from, but u exist.
It was incredibly rude. Did they have her there as some sort of a decorative prop? Incredibly disrespectful of these two men.
She's not there to communicate.
She's there as a presence only.
The Masai is part of the land and the ecosystem...
@Broski Snowski We are all part of the ecosystem. In this case, evicting the maasai will also mean eventually the natural land will be taken and destroyed because there is no reason not to.
@Broski Snowski Human species have been in this area for nearly 2 million years. They are part of the ecosystem.
Because you don't know Maasai that's why you are burking. They have nil millions of Cattle and you want them to live in a land that is small and shared with wild animals.
Maasai knows best for land.
@@CrackedConker fascist
@@CrackedConker advanced nations ruin lands
The ambassador just alluded that the Maasais were living there (Ngorongoro) since independence, then says 'illigally', who legalized any form of settlement pre-indepence? Land adjudication came later...and communities were settled in ancestoral lands. Secondly, the relocation is forceful...because of violent eviction without the consent of the community!!!
The Natural Resources in those areas are what is being protected and kept in reserve in the name of Plant and wildlife conservation for the future benefit of Foreign powers to Tanzania this is the story of the old and new scramble for Africa.
I can feel the esteem raised by Advocate Oleshangai Joseph. The crystal hardship imposed by the government to the Maasai isn't a point of human right its a forceful and malice to let them perish without concern regarding humanity or whatever rights related. Its an illegal and indirect genocide to exterminate certain group of people entirely.
When in the history of the world have bank owners held rural indigenous people's rights other than a conflict of their interests ?
Just be honest, population explosion all over Africa has forced wild life into other areas & now you want to move a noble & proud tribe off their land because they're 'unsightly' for the new tourist theme park experience.
How sad these news. Breaks my heart, seeing our indigenous people still being treated with this violence and disrespect once again
They are being treated just like the Indians were and are in America. Brakes my heart 2 see it in real time. 😭
@@rafaelw8115 Spanish and portugise settlers were just as or even more ruthless against south and central native americans.
@@Lajosen But the difference is that some native American ethnic groups in Spanish-occupied lands survived to this day, including their languages. Not the same with US where many were driven to extinction, the ones that survived were also highly mixed with Anglo-Americans.
@@rafaelw8115 first of all, the people you call Native Americans, didn't exist as a name until the 1800's
their were many different tribes in the country we now know as America
before it even existed
they went by their tribal names, not Native Americans
even when the 13 Colonies of the North Eastern US was founded by the Pilgrims/Puritans from England they
didn't stick a title on them until after the settlements became individual States
knew one day my American History would come in Handy😂😁
@@rafaelw8115 correck
@@rafaelw8115These are non-Maasi forcing Maasi off of their land. The government is not Maasi, that makes them outsiders. Color doesn't make any difference here.
I would like to see what year this law was drawn up and put into effect
Ndio vile kaburu mzungu alifukuza wakikuyu kenya, waafrika south africa, wahindi amerikani wakawapatia "settlements". Tofauti sasa ni mwafrika mwenyewe amebadilika, ndio kaburu sasa anayemfukuza mwafrika mwenzake. Mashamba yalikuwa ya wote. Hakuna masai alifukuza masai mngine akisema hii ni shamba yangu nisikuone ukifuga wanyama wako hapa. Shamba ilikuwa ya kila mtu atumie kufuga wanyama. Ushasikia wamasai wanagombana juu ya ufugaji wa wanyama popote? Ni ukaburu ndio inawalazimisha waanze kugombana juu ya shamba. Bwana ambassador, wamasai wanajenga manyatta ambayo watahama waache wakiendelea kutafuta nyasi ya wanyama kula...."kama wildebeeste migration". Yaniumiza roho sana kusikia ambassador akisema wamasai waende shule kusoma bank manager bila kueleza vile waliobaki nyuma wafugaji wataishi. Ama wote waende shule? Ukaburu 2.0 mwafrika kwa mwafrika. Jenga masule badala ya kujenga mahoteli za kutumikia watalii.karibu kwote africa kuna wanyama wa porini na jamii hawafukuzwi kutoka mashambani except kule wamebadilisha ukaburu kutoka mkono ya wazungu na kuingia mkono wa mwafrica. Kenya, kwa mkono wa oloi tip tip mmasai haikuhamisha wamasai waende kwingine. Ni Tanzania imeanza kuchokora wa masai ili wawahamishe makwao!
For the Massai! This is Governmental overreach. Fight for you ancestral lands!
The government wants to overtake for power. They want just tourism money and are not interested in conserving nature or culture.
Much respect and strength to your people.
As a Native American, this sounds all too familiar. Humanity seems to never learn.
It's a pity we didn't here more from that Massai woman!!
Just because the government gives you someone elses land doesnt mean your occupying the land is right and you known it.
Colonialism begins at home. An old story made new. Amazing to know how one group of people thinks the other set of people should live. "Masai CEO." This chap is delusional at best. Staying in the West for a long period could do that to a person. Nobody bothers to take the time to ask Masai what they would like but are happy to impose these strange ideas on them as if the way to progress is a one-road highway.
They should let them stay, just look at history to see how this kind of thing turns out. We did it to our natives in the US and it should have never happened. Learn from history, don't repeat it.
Stand up against evil government.
why do i struggle to believe that ambassador a word? how can we help maaasai?
Fight for your rights..the people was born....cursed the government. Put animals before tourist
Don't let the government make you fight against your brother.
Magufuli Where are You
Were is BLM when you need em
In their mansions
Those people are given land in other places so I don't know and it's along time thing
Who in the Tanzanian government is benefiting from this?
That's the real question!
*Tanzania🇹🇿 have border disputes with Malawi.*
make border agreement & keep peace!
I don't think we will settle this anytime soon
Tourists will stop going if this is made a campaign by the massai
Forceful eviction of Masai from their ancestral land is violating human rights by Tanzania government.
Eco fascism, colonialism. People belong in the landscape enviro purism is the wrong way.
This is too sad and tough for me to hear this report, I mean what ever happen to going to tribes and have talks or negotiations. As a Bantu by way of America who people were brought here by cargo slave ships to face the most brutal bunch of people on the face of our Earth.
Is there any newly discovered mining resources on the Maasai land?
Russia or China???
@@atix50 Tanzania.
@danieljrpeters6637 I meant who are really pushing the move. There's obviously a player with $ looking to cash in on something in the area. And it's not the wildlife.
@@atix50 true, but I don't know who benefits from it all.
@danieljrpeters6637 Extremely rich ruthless people who couldn't care less about the consequences for the rest of us 99.9999% who inhabit the planet. As long as westerners consume and the poor suffer for it, they'll continue to destroy, corrupt, and pollute.
Thank you so much DW for this, top quality content and reporting as usual.
Dr. David Winters, here, always served the Masai, and sold crafts they made in his office with Dr. Waldemar Kutzner. Go team! Praying!
the Maasai lady was completely cut off, I don't care about her lawyer opinion, I want to know her
What is he talking about regulations? When did this regulations come in effect was that before the land was occupied by the tribes
Is there an update on this? If so, please post a link that I can follow, thanks
The Ambassador made good points!
The Ambassador made good point
This is what happened to the khoi and san tribes in Southern Africa, Massai fight for your land or they will wipe you out ✊🏿
I think the economy in countries I've never been to are struggling with something that most countries have argued with obviously not common wealth countries but wealth has a factor
This happening in every country with tribes community .
The government is full of it they should’ve worked with the Maasai to find a better solution for the people not for the governments interest
Lies government lies him
Who's concerned about endangered species in Maasai lands? the Tanzanian government or Western governments?
Maasai are found both in Kenya and Tanzania. The ones here are from the Tanzanian side. Don't drag Kenya into an issue we know nothing of.
me
Ok! The govt. is relocating the masai so the chinese can build a geo-something park so the asians can come and enjoy it. Came out yesterday at night while everyone was asleep. Unesco site does not take into account the indegenous people who are part and parcel of the " unesco-ness" of the site.
So sad they lost their own place of why Life to live little world
Think about it
You cant own land in TANZANIA, you can lease the government maintains ownsership
The Masi will get up and fight for their rights, the Madi is indigenous people and the government can't move them, they should go to the United Nations and world court,
The Ambassador is not answering how the 200+ head of livestock, their mainstay, survive on a 2 acre plot of land! Mwongo huyo kaburu!
Discrimination against the people
Who is there first. That’s the way it should be. As the native Americans in the USA. But it’s always a battle.😡
perhaps boycotting safaris
The Masai already have been moved once.Not again.
Who elected UNESCO????
Stela: Hungry hyenas watching the chicken hoop!
UNESCO are criminal.
Pretty lady
Extremely disappointing.
Any country loosing the available maasais you will be loosing a wealthy culture
Mukitimuliwa huko kujeni kenya 😅😅😅😅
Tourists will follow the maasais wherever they go they love them😅😅😅😅😅
Why they've to go to Europe?that shows where the decision are made to displace the maasai.
They are trying to put some political preasure on their own gov by talking to foreign press and politicians.
Not that hard to understand...
@@nenasiek BBC and many western media have their branches in Tanzania.
@@africanlastborn7776 so?
They want westerners to be aware of the issue.
I dont watch the Tanzanian version of the bbc, I watch the european one and would not know about this if it was just brought up in the african bbc, dw or any other western media
Who shows who really controls Africa
Joseph (human rights lawyer), are you from Tanzania?.
Yes, from Tanzania
The embassador is not even African he is caucasion😂😂😂😂😂😅
We need president magufuli🇹🇿🇹🇿🇹🇿 back now 😓😢
We need more and more like president Ibrahim taore🇧🇫🇧🇫🇧🇫 now please
Racism
Public
Масаи это бренд Танзании, как можно к ним так отпоситься? Куда смотрят все эти мировые организации?
✊🏼
Colonialism comes full circle
Eco fascist colonialism, worse has happened in the Congo.
@@raclark2730 so are you saying ignore this?
@@susanb4816 No I an saying it is a part of a wider pattern /agenda.
Lies
Most tanzanians never educate their children
Hawa watu hawana mpangilio na muelekeo wakimaisha😅😅😅😅😅😅
Kujigamba tu na matusi isiyo na msingi😅😅😅😅
Bure kabisa 😅😅😅😅
Lol “it’s the Europeans fault!”
Technically yes. Each community had their own land rights and their own governance systems. The Maasai for example are found in both Tanzania and Kenya because of some arbitrary boundaries that were drawn in Berlin by the colonial powers. They were not even considering the ethnic or socio-cultural background of this "new found land" of Africa.
@@LewisWanjia your argument is void, Germans got divided and guess what they did? they united
you being ruled by others because you lack unity
xenophobia and tribal racism is bedrock of Africa, unite and get a grip, stop living in the past and stop constantly blaming others for your inability to govern and prosper
@@JackTenrec-qk4zp Wait, who divided the Germans? Wasn't it themselves and their ideologies? Secondly, what country right now would cede up territory? Even Spain doesn't want to give Catalunya their freedom. I know it's hard for a European to accept and acknowledge that they have been responsible for some of the worst actions in the past few centuries.
@@LewisWanjia you can very easily get your freedom, leave all the conveniences of civilization and go live in the woods, come over to Scotland we have plant of space here, you can go up north and live in the moors, no one will brother you
you been conquered, you lost a war you will get plundered, it has been like that since forever, stop crying bitching and moaning and get a grip
@@JackTenrec-qk4zp just asking why was it so hard for you people staying there in freezing Europe ...did you have to come over
C'est une horreur ... En plus contre ses propres freres. Il semble que nous n'avons plus ríen a faire sur cette Belle Terre. Le Diable a gagne son combat ....faite de combattants dans les rangos du Bien et de Dieu
Caucasian embassador to a Caucasian nation😮
ARAB ARA BUYING AFRICA POLE POLE
Germany.if thete is a lot of Land.if they live there for 30 years.y move them so you give the land to the RICH OR THE OTHER RACE.
Western model of development.
you being ruled by others because you lack unity
xenophobia and tribal racism is bedrock of Africa, unite and get a grip, stop living in the past and stop constantly blaming others for your inability to govern and prosper
Bruh we you guys had stayed in freezing europe, non of these would have happened, do we blame russia or china for our problems NO.
@@ugwuanyicollins6136 Bruh? LOOOL Freezing Euroope ?? LMFAO Russia colonized and conquered Siberia and its natives go talked to them and see what they have to say BRUH LOOOL
But this attachment of Maasai on their body, I really don't like it.
Only that this woman is better than the worse one.
That piecing of flesh is too much.
Then dont do it yourself, she can do what she wants.
This is why we are in disarray in the West because we've lost our spiritual identity and self
the west never had one identity
Not such great Warriors after all I guess.
SHALAWAM SHABBAT family 👑 shame it's sounds like what the Egyptian said about the Israelites. Come and deal unjustly with them because they are growing in large amounts and they might wake up and see what happens to them and be piss off and you know the rest of the story.. shame 🎺🎺🔥🔥
In tz all land belongs to the govt
The govt decides how the land will be used based on economic development of the area
this is illegal, because the land doesnt belong to the prime minister nor ministers, but to the nation, maasai nation. they are owners.
@@bibi.isanaziaccording to tz law the govt has the final say on land use
So if they feel the maasai are economically redundant then they are evicted
This is very common in tz many people have been evicted before it's not unique to the maasai
There's plenty of land in Germany for the Masai to start something
no, there is no such land with such climate conditions in germany
They can move somewhere else, they aren't endangered, the protected species are unique to that area, and can't just be moved. They should be compensated and moved peacefully however.
nonsense. maasai nation has lived with the animals together for tousands years. masai cannot move somewhere else, where? why? they are endangered without sufficient means for their living. the species are not unique and they survived till now thanks to maasai. all this talks about protected endangered spieces is just an excuse to remove maasai and to get their land and to sell it to developers and earn money.
@@bibi.isanazi And they have probably unknowingly damaged native wildlife for thousands of years, they just got used to an equilibrium. Humans should strive to do more than merely exist. They should move up the value chain and try and develop their country or seek a better life elsewhere. Then they would have the money to be listened to, but if they thought they were just gonna let the world pass by around them unscathed then they were naïve, no-on listens to the poor, but they didn't think about that, they just focused on the day to day, and look where that got them.