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- Easy Company marches into Germany & the Mrs joins them during a horrific discovery in Band of Brothers (2001). Here's her reaction to her first time watching Episode 9, 'Part 9: Why We Fight'.
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Its pretty common in german military service to go to one of these camps towards the end of your basic training ( at least in my area of germany). Your oath indirecty states that you will protect rights and freedom and not to follow orders that would lead to atrocities like this again. My CO said that many training companies go thre so that the recuits have an idea what this oath means, and why its wording is important. When we went, it was the most sobering event during our training. We were around 19 or 20, so it was usually rowdy, there were stupid jokes and big mouths all the time. Not then. It was dead silent. Even the bus drive back to the base was silent. Our CO told us something that stuck with us: "Remember, for you this is a museum. Its the past. Not the present, not the future. But for millions, this was the horrible present, and there would be no future. Never forget this." Edit:spelling
That's a lesson that some of us in the United States seem to have forgotten.
one of the commendable things about modern Germany is a that they don't ignore their past sins. They have monuments to the dead and oppressed so that nobody forgets. Where as in America, we erected monuments to the oppressors, Confederate slave traders who oppressed & killed millions of slaves based on skin color and picked up arms against the US because of it. There are few monuments to the enslaved. There were few trials. And the oppressors went on to create a segregated, unequal, society. Literally today you have many states banning books that even teach that raced based US slavery was wrong or that racism is wrong. Germany has faced its sins, deals with it. The US has not. The US should follow Germany's lead and really deal with it's past so it can truly be what it's lofty documents claim it to be.
It's quite common for high school kids in Europe to visit some of these camps as well.
Some in the US do need these lessons, especially today's Gen Z bunch. But for those of us veterans, especially us combat vets, we already understand this lesson. I am a bit awestruck at how it affected your unit of recruits, Drake.
Well, we didn't go to any camp during our military service. Maybe because we were stationed to the far north east of Germany, where no greater or infamous camps were. Although I remember we visited one in my penultimate school year as part of our final school trip to the Czech Republic on the way back home. Can't remember the name though :(
Me: "Oh yay! Band of Brothers time. Genuinely the highlight of my yt week"
Also me 2 seconds later: "....episode 9..... get the tissues"
You take you tea with sugar?
@@TheWindcrow No thanks, Turkish. I'm sweet enough
@@corriblehunt4554 love it bro 😂😂
@@TheWindcrow hahahahaa
Mozart was Austrian. Beethoven was German. Claude Debussy was French.
Which is why Nixon made the correction, since Hitler was Austrian.
Also, Beethoven and Mozart were Classical, and Debussy was impressionist.
@@a3sthetik Nah, I think the reason as to why he made the correction was to signify that Beethoven was German, just like those who were doing hard labor and picking up bricks as such, was to somehow show respect to the Germans. Or at least give them 'that much' of something. Your point is kinda the same as mine just a different side of a coin. The point is to draw away from Hitler I think. I think the point of this episode as far as character building for him, is to first show Nixon's contempt for the everyday German, then for some reason after his wife's letter, lone survival of his jump, and demotion, his understanding for them or sympathize for them came to fruition. Just my take.
Technically Mozart was Austrian, but he was born in what is now Poland. (Austria had invaded and occupied a large part of Poland about 60 years before Mozart was born, along with Prussia and Russia - the Polish Ukraine )
@@a3sthetik Nixon was himself a genocide enabler
@@jrtakesthesky27 That's a fair point. I agree.
“If anyone ever tells you the Holocaust didn't happen, or that it wasn't as bad as they say, no, it was worse than they say. What we saw, what these Germans did, it was worse than you can possibly imagine.” - Edward "Babe" Heffron. Episode 8 actually takes place in Hagenau, which is in the Alsace region of France, on the western bank of the Rhine River, and, Mozart was Austrian.
My great grandfather was serving in the Alsace region during ww1, 350th regiment 88th division us army.
I heard Russian soldiers when they found camps went even more pissed off than American ones.
My parents have a German friend who insisted it never happened. He died of COVID recently. Can't say I was that sad.
It could be noted that, in Mozart's time, Austrian was considered a type of German. Had the 19th century struggle for dominance gone differently, we might today consider Germany and Prussia two separate countries, instead of Germany and Austria.
@@MWSin1 The Nazi annexation of Austria was more like a high school homecoming weekend than a military takeover. It was known as the Anschluss (union).
The Airborne song "Blood On The Risers" once was pretty common among us troopers. I went to Airborne School in 1971 and one of the Black Hats (instructors) knew the words and in formation he'd sing it and we'd all do the chorus of "Gory, Gory." It's about a troop who gets entangled in his chute, augers in and there's blood on his risers (connects him to his 'chute), brains upon his chute, intestines were dangling from his paratroopers suit (jumpsuit). Another time one of our guys was killed in a jump accident; a dozen or so of us escorted his body home, served as pallbearers and firing party, etc. At his house later in a sort of wake, his mother wanted to hear it and a Platoon Sergeant could remember all the words, so we sang it for her and the family - surreal but she thanked us for it. You get the idea, and it's probably on CZcams somewhere.
I went in 04 and we had a blackhat that knew it as well..... It lives on!
The average soldier knew nothing about the camps until after they started finding them. But Roosevelt, Churchill, Stalin, and their respective higher officers were well aware of their existence and what was happening. People had escaped and told allied intelligence about them. There was also a fair amount of photos and film footage discovered early on. During Operation Barbarossa, the German push into Russia, many soldiers carried cameras to document the great victory they knew they'd be part of. Official military film crews sometimes travelled with the liquidation squads and openly filmed mass executions to be shown to selective audiences back in Germany.
There's a difference in hearing reports and reading reports about that, in the fog of war, vs actually finding them yourself. The Big 3 probably heard, but didn't understand. The Soviets had gulags, the Americans Japanese internment camps, so they probably just pictured something like that. When they found them, the smell and the visual would have shattered those similes.
Jews in the U.S. who still had families in Europe heard about the camps from their relatives. Roosevelt, Churchill, etc. had reports, but the U.S. also had Japanese-American camps (look up Manzanar for example). So while Roosevelt knew that the Germans had camps, he had no way of knowing that they were anything worse than what the U.S. was doing. There was some intelligence that the German camps were much worse, but there was a lot of question about whether the information was good or if it was exaggerated wartime propaganda. No one really knew the true scale of the Holocaust until the camps were liberated and U.S. commanders could finally get a full view of the vast scale of the camps and the Holocaust as a whole.
Germans shipped the sick and dying to camps like this. Working them until they died.
@@michaelgolisch1081 Do not equate Japanese American internment camps to gulags
@@Ailurophile1984 They aren't equal, but they are the closest similes to the concentration camps that each country had. Stalin killed far more people than hitler in those gulags, something conveniently forgotten today.
The hardest, yet most essential, episode to watch. You both did a great job on getting through and reacting to "Why We Fight".
One more to go with "Points". Speaking of one more, if you feel inclined, then I hope you'll do a reaction video for "We Stand Alone Together". It's the companion documentary to this award-winning miniseries.
Not as hard as the facts in David Irving's books.
The 101st was guarding the flank of the Free French army. One of the units opposing them was the Charlemagne Division of the SS, made up almost entirely of French volunteers. Needless to say that when the Free French got a hold of them they didn't take them prisoner...
The French soldier who summarily executed the Germans as Easy rode by was played by Tom Hanks.
@@daddynitro199 True! There’s a a few neat cameos spread across this series
@@daddynitro199 Nope Thats not Hanks his Cameo is in Episode 5 as one of the Red devils in the back of the room when they are celebrating.
@@jburgs100 both were cameos done by him I believe
@@daddynitro199 You're missing my point. It wasn't "German" soldiers they were executing. In the book Ambrose talks about a time in Germany when they stopped and actually witnessed Free French soldiers executing members of the Charlemagne Division. They were French, not German.
I may have spoken of this on your channel before but this episode always reminds me of something, a life lesson, my grandfather made sure to pass onto me before he died. He was 8th Army (the Desert Rats) and they saw Belsen. What he told me was that if I ever hated someone that it should only be because of something that they had personally done to me. Not because of where they were from, what colour they were or what religion they had. I remembered the lesson but never really understood it's root until I was older and discovered this hideous part of history.
EDIT: And he kept a Lee Enfield under his bed until his last day. The more mature me realises that, at least in part, this was because he had seen what happens to a people who cannot defend themselves.
Can always count on you guys to embrace the moment and emotion these scenes bring up. Of all the reaction channels out there, many (if not most) seem to overreact for the sake of it being a reaction channel. But, you both always remain genuine in the moment - which is much appreciated during as tough an event as those portrayed. Thank you for being sincere ❤
I was dreading this episode, it’s a rough one for sure. The Missus handled it very well. I myself was bawling like a teenage girl. Again.
Looks like she has seen the camps.
What always gets me with this episode is the man one kissing one of airbourne guys on cheeks and hugging him while crying like a child wanting comfort, that poor man realizing that these guys were there to help them and that the nightmare was over.
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In reality, there were only a handful of survivors found alive when the camp shown in Band of Brothers, *Kaufering IV (Hurlach),* was found and liberated by the 12th Armored Division on April 27, 1945.
Nix had a bad week. Then saw dachu. Your worst week would be the best day. What one person does to another. Im 56 man i cant stop crying when i see this. My grandfather served and told me stories so i would not forget.
The soldiers who executed the Germans on the road were French. Also, the one that shot them was played by Tom Hanks.
The best documentary about WWII is "The World at War". It's 26 episodes and interviews survivors from all the warring nations including Hitler's secretary.
Also all the rumors about Spears are true. He did kill a bunch of POW’s. And he did shoot his own drunk men. When Winters was writing his book the legal team was nervous about putting that in. So he called Spears and he said ya I did it and yes put it in the book. You can find an interview with Winters about this.
Great series! My grandfather was a paratrooper and jumped on D day and fought all the battles shown in this show.
Two excellent miniseries about World War 2 are “The Winds of War,” and “War And Remembrance.” Both are based on the novels of the same name by Herman Wouk. They follow a naval family through the war: the first 1938 to Pearl Harbor and the other Pearl Harbor to late 1945. Nothing like it has ever been made since.
Just finished watching these and I agree they are great I loved how they brought the fictional family into the war setting they made a really good job of it
A reaction to those would be great.
The song is "Blood on the Risers." I graduated jump school in 2010, and we were still singing it ironically during graduation then. "Gory, Gory, what a hell of a way to die!"
The camp they found in this episode is called Kaufering IV, one of a series of 11 subcamps within the Dachau Concentration Camp system. You mentioned having been to Dachau and I feel knowing this will strike home all the more. This episode gives us a glimpse into the cruelty of the Nazi Regime that for many of us is a grim reminder of how easy it is to inspire hatred. It rings ever clearer given the events going on in Europe now, I just hope it never escalates to this level again.
Read Revelation. It will happen. One last time. It will be worse, but it too will end.
@@Pecos1 When?
@@jd190d that has been the question of the ages.l
@@Pecos1 So it's just crazy speculation with no valid support.
@@jd190d that's a negative there, shipwreck.
13:44 i can`t imagine how it must be for the replacement guy. he saw nothing so far, and then this... true horror.
Man but I was dreading this one for you guys. This is a rough one. Thanks for (as usual) treating it with the respect it deserves.
The title of the episode 'Why We Fight' is also the title of a Frank Capra - directed series shown to all US Army, Navy, & Marine recruits during basic training. Was designed to provide a common/standard background for why US was in the war. All the Easy co. soldiers would have seen it.
Such an important episode. I strongly believe that this was/is the most powerful episode of television ever put to film.
The beginning of the episode shows us various of the soldiers having a "hard time" Nix especially. Perconte in the scene where he berates O'Keefe too.
Very quickly those not-insignificant struggles pale into complete insignificance next to the weight of human suffering.
It's a deliberately sudden shift, the levity that is shown during the scene where Luz jokes about Bastogne is a good example. Then the mystery as Perconte sprints back to base.
All of these elements bring to life what must have been the real experience of the men that discovered the camps. Most reactors to this episode have echoed what you said sir, somehow it seems unexpected to realise that nobody in the wider world had any idea of the true depths of the suffering imposed by national socialism. And that these men really opened Pandora's box.
What a hell of an episode.
The camp shown in Band of Brothers is Kaufering IV (Hurlach) which was actually found and liberated by the 12th Armored Division on April 27, 1945.
I've seen photos my grandfather took of camps he liberated. The depiction was very accurate to the photos I saw. It was a bit smaller in the show and there were bodies stacked like wood in the center of the street as fast as you could see.
He also told me stories of how shocked German POWs were of the amount of machines and vehicles the US had .
I had done some research on the experiences of WWII POWs, and the German POWs in the US were also stunned by how many Americans owned automobiles. One said he began to realize he was lied to when they arrived in NY, because the "Fuhrer" told them the Luftwaffe had reduced NYC to a "rubble". They were loaded onto Pullman cars and took the train west. They were surprised that they had comfortable seats - they thought they'd be herded into cars like cattle. Sort of how the Jews were loaded into trains heading to concentration camps. 😞
Good points...and wow (for your grandfather). Those photos must be difficult to look at. I always encourage people to visit the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington D.C. I grew up in Virginia Beach and spent plenty of field trips in D.C. I loved visiting the Smithsonian museums. However, the Holocaust Memorial was the first that ever haunted me for weeks after my visit. The video footage of Eisenhower at one of the camps (you see this on screens shortly upon entering the museum) and his subsequent remarks set a tone for the horrors that you see during your visit.
BTW, not long ago, I watched an interview with a guy who was a German intelligence officer during WW2. He survived the war and went on to live in the United States. He mentioned that he had participated in analyses of potential American intervention in the war. The Germans obviously didn't want the U.S. in the war (and the U.S. stayed out for a couple of years -- until Pearl Harbor in December 1941). However, during that time period, the Germans used reconnaissance and foreign intelligence to determine how much equipment, arms and vehicles that the United States military had on standby. Consequently, the Germans believed that they had a chance against the U.S. joining the allies after Pearl Harbor.
According to that intelligence officer, the Germans could not believe that the U.S. could mass-manufacture weapons, planes, tanks and ships as rapidly as they did (and with good quality AND innovative improvements). When the U.S. joined the European campaign, they were absolutely shocked. He said that the U.S. troops were very well trained; however, the deciding factor was that the Axis powers could not compete with the wartime industrial efforts of the Americans. Plus, surrendering German troops were shocked to find that they had better food and living conditions in POW camps than what they had while serving in the German war effort.
As many times as this series has been watched/reacted to, the impact will never lessen. I would hate to think of these camps not being found out about until after the war was completely over. There would likely have been no survivors at all. And if they were found sooner, more American soldiers would possibly have also died trying to free the prisoners.
I am hoping that you two already know of the Documentary, We Stand Alone Together, and will be watching/reacting to that as well. Take care
Remember history is written by the victors and to them the spoils of war.
@@SedriqMiers 😴
@@SedriqMiers trite and untrue. German history books tend to confront the stain on their national soul more starkly and honestly than any victorious nations does. The losers know what depths they fell to, and have chosen never to forget or allow the repetition of the holocaust.
Even in general there are plenty of historical cases of the losers writing their own narrative of history, only the woefully uninformed believe the old saying.
The powers at be knew, it was discussed in the house's of Parliament and we released a statement saying these crimes will be punished after the war.
Contrary to what is shown in Band of Brothers, only a handful of prisoners were actually found alive when the camp shown in Band of Brothers, *Kaufering IV (Hurlach),* was found and liberated by the 12th Armored Division on April 27, 1945 (Easy Company didn't actually arrive until April 28). All the other prisoners had either been killed or marched off in the direction of Dachau. Colonel Edward Seiller of the 12th Armored Division took control of the camp on April 27 and he is the one who ordered civilians from the Landsberg am Lech area to bury the dead.
From the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum:
_As US armed forces approached the Kaufering complex in late April 1945, the SS began evacuating the camps, sending the prisoners on death marches in the direction of Dachau. Those inmates who could not keep up were often shot or beaten to death by the guards. At Kaufering IV, the SS set fire to the barracks killing hundreds of prisoners who were too ill or weak to move._
_When the 12th Armored Division and 101st Airborne Division arrived at Kaufering IV on April 27 and 28, respectively, the soldiers discovered some 500 dead inmates. In the days that followed, the US Army units_
After I watched Band of Brothers in the 10th grade I asked my teacher to show this episode to the whole class because it is that important for everyone to see what happened.
I live near the KZ Buchenwald, we had a school trip visiting the place, we all were around 15-16, teenager are always edgy and have something to say. I still remember the silence on that hill, no one said anything. From my house I can see the memorial tower that was build in the 50s on the other side of the hill. This stuff can never be forgotten.
When I was 11 in 1983, living in Germany, spent a day walking around Dachau. It has had a profound impact on me since.
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart's father was German, and his mother Austrian. One of my favorite composers. You should check out the 1984 film, "Amadeus." :) 👍
A good movie but not exactly historically accurate
@@mattnar3865 I agree Matt. As with most films, liberties were taken, but still, all in all an entertaining movie.
@@mattnar3865 Neither is Band of Brothers, I don't think historical accuracy is exactly a huge criterion here
This is the most emotional episode. For info. The actors didn't see the concentration camp before they shot the scene of them discovering it. The directors wanted to get the actors true reaction. Furthermore the actors in the camp were people who had cancer that's why they look so skinny. This scene still gives me chills even after having watched the show like 30 times.
"A Tree Grows in Brooklyn" is a coming-of-age story (set in Brooklyn Natch.) It was one of the books selected for the Armed Service Editions (really basic paperbacks distributed to the troops) and was easily top 5 in popularity (the author received tons of fan male during the war) . It's kinda unrealistic that he gets the whole book. Often it would have been torn into two or three chunks so more than one guy could be reading it.
The frustrated speech is telling for where it is. They are on the Autobaun (using both lanes), the Germans are marching in the median. All that money for that fancy road, and the Germans were mostly using horse-drawn transport the whole war (meanwhile, the Army dug up enough spare trucks to make the 101st a "motorised" division.
It's really insane just how much of the german war effort was horse drawn this became a huge problem on the eastern front fighting the russians given the enourmous distance the germans had to cover and that caused severe supply problems for them.
Ironically many of those supply problems the Russian army struggle with today in Ukraine because like the germans they advanced far too quickly only to run out of fuel.
No lessons learned from history whatsoever
My great-grandfather was in Dahau between 1939-1941. He managed to escape.
I am impressed that the both of you held up without any tears. .I have seen this series multiple times and have not been able to get through it with out crying my eyes out.. I have relatives that luved in Germany during WW2 that were able to escape nazi occupation.
I have seen this episode more times than I can count...and it gets me EVERY TIME!!!
No matter how many times I've seen this episode or have seen others react to it, it always so heartbreaking and sobering to see the things that humans have done to each other, especially at this time in history.
I have been to Dachau as well. Only other place I have visited that had that same eerie, silent vibe was visiting the USS Arizona Memorial at Pearl Harbor.
I have never been to Europe, but I can vouch for that eerie feeling at the Arizona Memorial.
My Dad was 17 year old kid when he enlisted. His widowed mother had to accompany him to the enlistment office. He got his high school diploma while in the Navy. He enrolled in submarine school because it was double pay, which he sent home to his mom.
As we where in School (I am German) we visited the ruins of the Dachau Camp and watched Schindler‘s List. I learned my Lesson. But poor to see that some people don’t have still.
Thanks for you Guys watching and commenting this episode.
My grandfather fought in WWII, and the only part he would talk about was liberating one of the camps, and how utterly horrific it was. He was a medic
12:10 Man carrying older man is speaking Serbian, he is saying: "People help, please help, he is still alive, you can still save him"
I was in elementery school when I first watched the series, to hear those words, to understand them, while everything else was subtitled, oh man the filing of dread.
This episode always hits hard. I did a European tour to France for a summer during college, and some of the folks I met decided to take an international jaunt over through Germany, and Czech, and w e ended up visiting the Dachau memorial site. Haunting is the right word. Just straight up eerie.
Glad you showed your emotions on this one.
I saw the battlefields on Okinawa and you could feel the deaths there 😔 as you just said it was straight up eerie
I visit that beautiful country every year and it always baffles me how such horrendous things could happen there
The raw emotion on your faces was quite telling. I appreciate how you remained silent through most of the scenes involving the camp, especially because the looks on your faces, to me, showed pain, anger, disbelief, and most telling, the unexpectedness of the scene. The near total silence throughout this video, even no comments at the end, again to me, was very honorable. Thank you.
If you look closely, you can see that one of those French soldiers killing those Germans on their knees was Tom Hanks incognito.
Heart wrenching episode, thanks for your reaction!
Every time the camp comes in to view, my stomach tightens...
The allies would later liberate Buchenwald Concentration camp, the Camps commander's wife would make lamps, purses, and other odd items from prisoners skin😖🤢 I can't imagine the psychological damage the allies soldiers had finding these camps.
Love y'all's reactions 👍👍
It's important to remember that the concentration camps were not a secret, they were advertised in newspapers and even magazines like Time. News reels were released showing the opening and populating of these camps in the 1930's. The first large group sent were political dissidents, especially Communists. However, they were held for only a limited time before being released (in most cases). People got used to them. Even the term "concentration camp" wasn't stigmatized back then. It just meant to gather a population into a centralized location, usually so guerilla forces could be seperated from the general population. The US (in Cuba and amongst Japanese-American immigrants), the UK (South Africa), and Belgium (Congo) used them in colonial populations and pretty much everyone used them with domestic populations who had foreign ties. France did it to Frenchg civilians with German ties, Italy did it to Italians with ties to France. Belgium with their Germans, Austrians with their slavs, Ottomans with their Armenians.
While conditions could get terrible inside and disease and starvation were not unheard of, by and large the early German camps were modern, clean and relatively comfortable. That changed when the camps were revised between 1936-38 when all of the original camps were closed down and either rebuilt or brand new camps built in their place, much more brutal designs. Even then, these weren't specifically murder factories (although deaths throu abuse were common). It wasn't until December 1941 that the concentration camps were formally transitioned to Death Camps. By that point most of the camps were well removed from large population areas and the population at large had been conditioned not to ask questions.
Did the German population know? It depends, about the camps and the large populations the answer is absolutely. Again the camps were in the news all the time, and forced labor from the camps was widely used not just in factories but in public infrastructure work like roads and housing and once the war turned against the Germans, these work gangs were widely used to clean up bombing damage and help with reconstruction. Did they know about the death camps? Harder to say, the Nazis didn't advertise that, but even if the general population didn't know, they certainly knew that people going to the camps after 1938 were not coming back out.
Did the Allies know about it? The leaders and intelligence agencies certainly knew about the camps. Prominent Jewish cultural leaders (like Einstein) even advocated bombing the camps to stop their operation, even if it meant writing off all of the prisoners inside. But this was kept from the general population, and the soldiers in particular, mainly for fear of what it might do to morale. There was also a concern that if the US was seen as "fighting for the Jews" it might cause problems with certain populations. The New York Times in particular made every effort to NOT report on rumors of genocide because of a fear of being too friendly to the Jews.
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"Is Mozart French?"
Looks like it's time for a screening of 'Amadeus', you philistines.. 😉
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A tough episode indeed. Thanks for posting guys and do take care.
The very first camp- designed specifically is Mauthausen in (of course) Mauthausen, Austria. We have friends who live like 30km away from there. The Mrs and I went there. Haunting is a mild term for such a place. Hard to wrap the mind around really.
18. There were just 18 days between the deaths of FDR and Hitler. How crazy is that? Stalin wouldn't die for another eight years. Yet, Winston Churchill didn't die until almost 20 years later. Winston Churchill was the oldest of all of the allied leaders during WW2; yet, he outlasted all of them by quite a few years.
I get emotional every time I watch this episode. I have friends from childhood whose dad was part of the liberation force of one of these camps.
There was a Memorial/Veterans day television special some time ago. The actor Charles Durning who had served with the 506th Airborne in WWII, read an excerpt from the journal he had kept from when they had liberated this camp (one of the Dachau satellite camps). Even all those decades later he was moved to tears.
I went to the United States Holocaust museum in Washington DC in January 1995 on a school trip. It was 3 or 4 floors of stuff from the camps. There were the ovens and piles of shoes and so much more to learn about. It was a very informative place to learn a lot from WW2. Very depressing though but a good learning experience. Something I'll never forget.
Last Patrol was in France. My first ever holiday abroad was to Hitlers Eagles Nest and Zell Am See. Felt amazing to be in a place so important to the 101st.
Gets me everytime...and to think its still going on today kills me!
And the denial is still going on. Doesn't take much to understand people ignoring atrocities happening. People are willfully blind or think it's deserved. The world has not moved on much at all. We are still subject to cruel leadership and sycophantic defense of their horrendous decisions.
Yes, Auschwitz is in south of Poland and Auschwitz camp 2 "Birkenau" was the largest camp (171 hectares, 423 acres) and had 4 gas chambers/crematoriums that were working everyday for several years. Most named camps had many local sub camps.
This is such a hard episode but important one. I like how they show the men tired and wondering why they are here. Then they find out.
Saw this episode pop up and immediately sharply inhaled, because oooooh boy is this one a doozy. One of the best hours of television in history, and simultaneously one of the most difficult to watch.
this show came out just as I went to Ex-Jugoslavia, as a Peace Keeper soldier from Denmark.
first time seeing the mrs cry without sipping or holding it in!
The one who said "sitting on your bayonet??" When Nixon was telling the company news from home. That was Michael Fassbender, you might recognize him as Magneto from the newer X-men films.
I've been waiting for you two to watch this! Love you guys!
this entire series is an emotional ride, this episode is the hardest to watch without any doubt (wont spoil next one just looking forward to finishing the series with you both). Can see the feelings are just about break out from you both as you say goodbye this time. Take some together time and we'll join you for last part.
This is by far the most memorable and important episode, in my opinion. The title, "Why We Fight" is essential to understanding this episode. As it begins, all the soldiers are tired of war, they just want to go home, but can't because it is dragging on. You see it in Perconte losing it on O'Keefe, the looting of personal items, Nixon's incredibly bad time this episode, and it culminates with the killing of those prisoners, to which O'Keefe reacts in horror but the others shrug it off an smile, as well as Webster screaming at the surrendering Germans.
The point is that they all lost focus and forgot why they even got into the war (to help save the world from tyranny and retribution for Pearl Harbor). It took the shock of the camp to bring them back on target. The last 15-20 minutes of the episode, no one complained or seemed off-course anymore...except maybe Webster's final comment.
My favorite part that I just recently realized that connects back to episode 2. In that, Winters is already discouraged about the war after losing Hall during the assault on Brecourt, but Nixon tries to steady him and make him feel better by mentioning the good the map Winters found would do. In this episode, it turns on its head. Nixon is complete disillusioned and Winters tries to bring him back by reminding him that those young men he lost on the plane sacrificed everything to try and help others they didn't even know, thus dying as heroes. It shows the depth of their friendship. Unfortunately, Nixon's worries were not just confined to that plane going down, as we found out, but even he was brought back on target when he saw the horrors of the camp.
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This was the hardest episode to watch. Man's inhumanity to man. Can't imagine how difficult it was for the troops to discover those horrors. They didn't even know they were there. The director never told the actors what to expect. Their reactions were real...
If this don't bring a tear to the eye. Then you don't have a soul.
Not a comment about Band of Brothers but you two, I’m in hospital after car accident and have enjoyed the reactions, thank you thank you
A Tree GRows in Brroklyn is my wife's favorite all time book. About a little girl with an alcoholic father.
Had an old history teacher, his father liberated the camps... he had nightmares about it all his life.
This episode always tore me to pieces.
I’ve been to Auschwitz and it was a humbling experience. Lest we forget, so we we do not repeat the atrocities of mankind.
This episode in particular is always a tear jerker; an episode that displays the effects of deplorable human behavior at its worst. What is particularly disheartening is that Vladimir Putin and many of his troops are participating in actions in the Ukraine not too far off what what we witnessed in this episode. Putin is now even purging his inner circle for possible "disloyalty," much like Uncle Joe did decades before him. Whoever came up with this expression "history repeats itself" should win an award.
There's a great documentary Five Who Came Back about five movie directors who filmed WWII. One was George Stevens who filmed the liberation of the death camps. After the war he never filmed a war movie. But he filmed others that reflected the war. One of my all time favorites is Shane, a western about a gunslinger who has seen too much in life and tries to help a community of farmers fight oppression.
mozart = austrian
executing soldiers = french
not stealing. "liberating".
"what did they see?" you do not want to know.
having been malnourished at one point in my life, i can assure theres no off switch when food is suddenly introduced. and remember liebgott is jewish. think what it cost him personally to have to deliver that message.
i always thought the crying elderly german man particularly poignant. without words he managed to convey; "look what they did to my germany. look at the beasts they turned us into."
its amazing all these years later how much emotional impact this episode still holds for me.
Most people cry when they watch this episode, it’s a human response .
History - it was a Japanese-American self-propelled artillery unit that liberated the work camp. Winters did not show up until the second day.
I knew... as soon as it got quiet and they all looked shocked
What i never thought of was there was a time when the troops didnt know about the camps as well. Must have been insane to discover with no prior knowledge.
A haunting quote from ‘WW2 in HD’ by Amy Smart voicing June Wandrey. About 15:40 into the last episode. “God?….Are you there?….God?…..Where are you?” After she was witnessing and caring for the poor souls at a…experimentation/extermination camp.😢 I weep for the suffering that everyone went through and those that was too much for.
What a horrible blemish on humanity as a whole.
ooooh here we go, This episode crushes everyone
Just as a point of reference. Not all.soldiers were nazis. That were soldiers soldaten.. nazis were a political faction.
Mozart was Austrian, born in Salzburg about 20 years after my ancestors were kicked out.
10:37 you see Mr Movies head tilt, I think he realized right then what was going on, even made a slight distraction to keep her off the scent so she'd come in a bit blind.
My Father was born 1945, but my grandparents won't talk about WW2 or what they where doing during that time. I'm from Denmark.
"Vat 68, dammit" that made me laugh
Also , alot of the actors portraying the victims in the camps were on hospice and dying with cancer ect. Some were descendants of Holocaust survivors themselves. They also didn't tell the actors anything or showed them the set. They got a basic script and them seeing the camp in real life for the first time was when they filmed this episode.
Was waiting for this one. I brought tissues in case 😭💜🙏
The next episode is a good ending with only a few tears. There is also more footage which was shot for the opening talking heads, I think it's called"we stand together, alone."
Nixon's "That's Beethoven" line always seemed forced -- and that's because it is. It's an Easter-egg callback to a scene in Schindler's List in which an SS officer is playing the piano, and two German soldiers are discussing it saying "Is that Bach? No, that's Mozart." As Spielberg worked on both productions, and episode 9 was the Holocaust episode, the reference/callback to Schindler List is likely intentional.
Read Timothy Snyder's book " The Bloodlands". It makes the very important distinction between the concentration camps and the extermination camps. ALL of the dedicated extermination camps were located in the east and were discovered by the Soviets. Auschwitz had 2 camps, an "arbeitslager" (work camp) and the dedicated extermination camp. Treblinka was solely dedicated to extermination (as were the other camps located in Poland). As bad as Dachau was, it was far, far worse in the east. Dachau was the first actual concentration camp and was established in the mid1930's to hold political prisoners as "enemies of the State". People definitely were executed there, but not as a systemic, planned activity. Dachau served primarily as a work camp once the war began in 1939.
On a side note, Stalin starved 3.5 million Ukrainians from 1933-35 in the Holodomor. The Soviets collectivized all the farms in Ukraine, seized the agricultural production, and shipped all of it back to Russia. The Soviets then sold the agricultural products on the open market to fund their massive industrialization programs in the early-mid 1930's. The film Mr. Jones covers this extremely well, and you guys should watch it. On top of the Holodomor, Stalin's "Great Terror" in 1937-38 also accounted for roughly 750,000 murders, and a great number of those were folks of Polish extraction who were living in Russia at the time. Poland and Japan had somewhat deep diplomatic ties at that time, and Stalin feared being boxed in by Japan to the south (Japan was already occupying Mongolia and there had been military incidents between the Soviets and Japan along the border) and Poland to the east.
O WAS WAITING FOR THIS EPISODE FOR THE LAST WEEK AND A HALF!!!!!
The guards from the concentration camps were usually from Himmler`s units, (not sure if I can quote their designation in comments ?). The Jewish prisoner told them they had pulled out, moving South likely to try & reach the Eagle`s Nest. At this point in the war, some of these guards changed into prisoner outfits or ordinary clothes, to escape capture.
If they were suspected/ identified & rounded up, many were caught due to their Himmler Unit tattoo, this ensured their entering the justice system.
Many of the Allied Soldiers were well aware of the Nazis’ persecutions, especially towards the Jews, but they just never knew the true horror of what was really going on. They may have heard rumors or found escaped survivors, but nothing was truly confirmed. Until the camps started to be discovered…
The discovery had a drastic change for the Allied soldiers on the Western Front. Fewer SS prisoners were being taken alive, and the soldiers became less sympathetic towards the German civilians.
On a positive note, it did provide some sobering revelations to many of the battle fatigued allied troops, it gave them a sense of accomplishment and that their struggles and the loss of comrades wasn’t all in vain. It even gave some the motivation to keep fighting until the war was truly over. In fact, many in Easy Co. would walk away with a sense of pride that they took part in truly putting a stop to a great evil they never knew existed.
A Polisb soldier tried to tell the Allies about the camps. His name was Witold Pilecki. Look him up and see what this man did. They should make a movie about him.
The Medics being squeamish is probably a result of constantly having to witness some of the goriest situations. My Great GrandFather Was a medic in the Pacific and after that he couldn't stand the sight of blood. No matter if it was in a movie or a person having a bad nosebleed.
The smell of death here would have been a lot different to them then in battle.
@@JL-bn6kf Not in the Pacific. On some of those islands, like Okinawa, the stench was unimaginable because it was too muddy to bury bodies, so they rotted in the jungle heat.
My great-uncle was a medic in the PTO as well and went through the battles at Gloucestershire, Peleliu and Okinawa, as well as helping tend the wounded on Pavuvu.
Bottle of wine [check] Box of tissues [check]
This is a tough one.
The opening scene in which Nixon identifies the music as Beethoven, not Mozart, one must wonder if there's a parallel here. Mozart was Austrian, like Hitler. Beethoven was German. It's interesting how that scene corrects it, if you see what I mean... Also, there's an interesting parallel use of the color red surrounding the wife of the deceased SS officer. She's wearing red when Nix encounters her in the house he's looting for whiskey, a very desaturated scene, color-wise, and again when he encounters here clearing bodies at the camp. Similar to the scene in Schindler's List when the little girl is first seen in the chaos of the ghetto being cleared (in black and white), then later on the back of wagon-load of bodies.