The discovery of the Higgs Boson? Garrett Lisi explains | Singularity University
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- Following the CERN announcement, Theoretical physicist Garrett Lisi explains the discovery of the Higgs Boson particle by CERN scientists. Previously, LHC results have strongly signaled the existence of a Higgs with a mass of 125 gigaelectronvolts (GeV), or roughly 125 times more massive than the proton.
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Question: does the Higgs-Boson fit into the E8 like you did postulate in your ToE (TED-Talk) and what about the other missing particles that are still missing in the E8? Would love to hear that you are still right with your theory and the "startup company" can continue successful work.
i couldn't understand it quite well i am a beginner in physics can anyone lead me to a simpler video\explanation ?
Garrett - I want to find out what the discovery of the Higg's boson means for your G8 theory, since you were trying to look for a Higg's 'field' rather than a single particle. As a theoretical physicist, are you back at square one or does the discovery of the Higg's boson fit the G8 theory?
best explanation i've seen so far!!
Ok, I'm calling it:
July 4th will now be known as Higgs Day.
I didnt know that video... thank you for bring it to my attention ;-)
How fast are this new particle? I mean, to give mass to others he need to be there first, so... it's faster than light?
The ability to anticipate, direct, and control particles coalescing would allow us to teleport.
Great video! Once you finish working out exactly how the universe works you have to get in line with Sagan and Tyson to describe it to the rest of us!
Thank you for enlightening me. I shall refrain from having any critical thoughts about anything from here on out.
Good job on making it seem simple...
Thanks Alex, for explaining it in a way that somewhat intelligent folks can understand. As an engineering graduate, what would really interest me was more details on how they ran the experiment precisely (forces, methods of accelerating particles, and suchlike), and how they can alter their results by changing initial conditions. If you ever want to talk about it, just meet me on Pohoiki beach - I am there every day yea?
Why?
Why not measure the Higgs particles mass by the decibels created by the expanding and contracting magnetic fields of a iron core transformer?
You're really misunderstanding. He was giving an example of the internet, how it started as just a simple development to increase communication speeds. Soon, it had turned into one of the biggest developments for science in ages. He was saying that any discovery could be comparative to this, because we can never know what new things a discovery could bring to the table.
Primer Note: "Finite & Infinity":
1. Finite is an assembly (mass) of particles
within a specific (designated, defined) space.
2. "Infinity" refers to energy instead of a mass of assembled particles
within a designated space.
How did they measure it?
a. By the release of Gamma radiation. (small budget)
How else could you measure it?
b. Boson-Higgs particle. (Big budget)
Any other way?
Time & Travel.
are they looking for the graviton?
I would love to hear more about how the Higgs Boson discovery may also affect Garrett Lisi's own theory, "An Exceptionally Simple Theory of Everything". If my hopes matter at all, I really hope it fits in with it. As Lisi has constructed a really beautiful, elegant theory.
Congratulations to all the CERN researchers and particle physicists everywhere
Fascinating. How I would like to study at the Singularity University.
Being sent thru grad school, to the LHC next year to research the next big thing...the graviton. Can not wait.
Nether can I that is the next big thing and probably the biggest
kNOw such thing it's WAS emergent like your perceived sentience.
I love this kinda thing. If i don't understand it, i want to learn more about it.
the standard model was an international effort and it wasnt just cern. I agree that the standard model is incomplete but if you think a theory that explains particle physics experiments to 11 decimal places of accuracy is wrong, I would love to hear your alternative.
The biggest problem I see with the singularity happening exponentially is that society won't be able to change fast enough to catch up with the implications.
Hell, society is having problems handling the technology we have today.
In California we are working on a bill that will let driverless cars to be tested on our roads, while we have Google, Stanford and Caltech testing cars already on our roads.
Stanford's Junior has driven down Lombard Street in San Francisco.
based on the current model, what give mass the atom nucleus but not to photons and electrons is the concept that Higgs particle is to big and stumble on a energy field (the field that propagate light as a wave, perhaps at the plank level). And since the HIggs exist, perhaps the energy field can be also probed. The Alcubierre drive is the only hope for traveling faster than light, at it's based on collapsing this field in the front of the ship and expanding in the back
I spit my cereal out laughing while reading your comment. You are right though, we are screwed!
Added Primer Note:
What is Infinity?
It's an "Equilibrium System".
Point:
Infinity is an "Equilibrium System".
This is the basis for Higgs, etc.
Are you alive
THEY FINALLY DID IT!!! This calls for a beer!
Haha yea, that sounds about right. Which I don't understand how they got a particle bigger than the particles they started with, but I trust the guys at CERN to release a full report on their observations and findings here soon!
Gotta love Garrett.
They accelerated a proton to the point of having as much energy as a flying mosquito.. Keeping everything in relative perspective, that's insane 0.0
I believe that it's a mass-less particle that creates other particles that do have mass. My understanding of it is very elementary so far, but that's what I've gathered from it thus far.
can you point to one technology that isn't the result of curiosity based research? Anything? the car? the aeroplane? the microwave? the non stick pan? electricity itself? Nobody set out to solve anything in any of these cases. What happens if you find a way to manipulate the higgs field and increase and decrease the mass of a particle? what if you can do it to everyday objects? You can't foresee anything, you have to find out.
Everyone knows Tim-Berners Lee made the web, try to pay attention to what is being said in the video at 3:44. The video blatantly name drops TBL as a Cern-researcher. He was working at CERN and made the first web for CERN labs. Why is this mentioned? To associate this Higgs event with a successful application and money. It's plausible that nothing will come of this that will be as amazing. The act of discovery itself was what was notable for this time. Recognize a P.R. job when you see one.
It wasn't the media, its was a physicist who was being facetious
why don't more people know about this channel!!!!
The neocortex by mass is outweighed by the rest of the brain, but its significance is not in its size.
i didn't interpret it that way. he said the science was the most fascinating part of it. but he is also interested to know how creative minds can come up w/ways to put it to use. when someone profits, that usually means they have something worth purchasing. it creates employment opportunities. the fact of the matter is we've been conditioned to equating value w/money &we're forced to use money to survive. so it would make sense that they could use this to recoup R&D costs & make new discoveries.
It doesent matter that a readily use for it is not at sight. For example in pure math, parts of number theory were useless for centuries until computers came and cryptography is built over it. All wireless banking, internet security, depends in this math that was "useless".
"In the grim darkness of the far, far future, there is only war..."
yes.
if you say that it is not an abstract model then we should deduce that this has been observed. Well, it has not. Why, simply because direct observations of these particles is impossible (heisenberg). The only thing they CAN indirectly observe is related to the mathematical model they are using. In this case, the standard model. This model tries to isolate the particles, which is impossible since they are interconnected in nature, a feature that actually gives them their properties.its uncomplete
Do you want the layman, general type person to somewhat understand what is going on here? Or just us geeks... I think it's good for all to enjoy this discovery. There are much more technical inclined videos to watch.
Fuck, why couldn't they have just let him nickname it the "goddamn particle", like he was supposed to.
I hope that this discovery leads to a better understanding of gravity. Wouldn't it be cool if we could learn to use energy fields to create gravity? Universe, here we come!
Theoretically something that is COMPLETELY mass less could go any where instantly with very little energy...I think.
What does this have to do with religion?
Well, because we know what the "pieces" of a proton are. They are called quarks, and we know what those look like in test results. Not to mention, this particle is far more massive than a quark. (Not sure how, exactly, because I haven't read too much of what the results have shown) And just to make clear, they aren't "certain". They are 99.999% sure (not an over-dramatization, a real percentage.)
Can you say "Hoverboard"?
so true
Amen
So from the confirmation that atoms had a nucleus came out nuclear weapons... doesnt make me to eager to know what will come from the discovery of the higgs boson.
Internet was not developed by CERN, the guy who made it possible was Tim-Berners Lee and he is a computer scientist. Please understand the point the video is trying to make. He is saying that when internet was developed it was merely to improve communication amongs various physicists but as time progressed it evolved into this massive communication device for all of us. So, discovery of higgs is something like that, it is hard to predict what will happen decades down the line.
I thought they declared a standard deviation of 5, which is equivalent to 99.9999426697%, not 100%.
Unfortunately, the internet was not developed by cern, it was developed by the american military (arpa). He must know this. I wonder what he actually meant.
How many scientists have you seen say that standard model is complete? Also how many theories do you know are complete?
Standard model doesnt account for gravity, it doesnt say anything about dark matter. its incomplete but its the best explanation now. Also the fermions and bosons in the standard model have been found. Higgs boson was the last one.
i dont get it
can this higgs boson cure male pattern baldness? that would be useful for humanity
So we can finaly start finding "ELEMENT ZERO" and travel faster than light...WOW mass effect that was
Pro hominem arguments aren't necessarily considered fallacies.
What his case APPEARS to be is that by focusing on a limited amount of information is, in itself, cherry-picking. I believe he is suggesting that we default to those who use the scientific method to have a more thorough understanding than we do - only presented with limited information appropriate for the lay-man's understanding.
Even I have witnessed people like Kent Hovind seriously disregard relevant info for his arguments...
I believe it works as a field. Just like gravity creates a field, it's respective particles are known as gravitons. And we know for a fact that not information can move faster than light, not even gravity. So comparing this to that, there is a higgs field, and it's respective particles are Higgs bosons. And they can't move faster than light.
(cont'd)
It's quite possible that many of his followers take that limited info and use it in arguments with other people who don't understand evolution, but entrust the collective body of scientists to know what they are talking about.
In such a case, a follower of Hovind could apparently have argumentative ammunition that an evolutionist might not be able to defend - but the bulk of evolutionary biologist would, easily.
even when I wish you were right, this is a common but unfortunately not well-known fallacy of false dilemma.. the assumption that there are just two possibilities when there are lots of variables in the context. So no, unfortunately it doesn't disprove anything
the most unfortunate thing about Singularity University is that the logo is disturbingly similar to Scientology's. If I didn't know Garrett's work, I would have hastily clicked away from this video in the first five seconds.
Why am I not surprised of getting personal attacks, instead of a scientific argument... Since you have such a scientific rigor and knowledge, why don't we debate the issue? You know like it was done in the past.
Lol when you get down to that scale shit gets weird.
next step detect and control the energy field that Higgs Boson stumble on and interstellar space travel can be a thing of tomorrow and not just a dream ....
Thanks again for making my point crystal clear and for showing us your intellectual level or lack of it. Also thanks for insulting me after I try to have a scientific discussion. Interesting to see you have nothing better to do with your time than personally attacking me. Have a better day!
I think because it is too radical of an idea.
I have talked to a bit of people that have seen The Transcendent Man and asked them what they think about the singularity. The majority say that it isn't really going to happen.
Hell even I get lost in the implications of the singularity. My mind wants to believe in Ray Kurzweil but my brain won’t let it. I just don’t think I am living in the time of exponential possibilities. I just can’t believe I am that special.
Lisi is now added to my list of human shame and ignorance of cosmogony.
Walter Russell trumps eclipsed every scientist whom ever lived.
Thank you. Next!...
They should have named it the Elmer particle.
Except in this case we have just one jellybean and we smash it billions of times until it looks the way we want it to or just a little bit like we want it to.
The question is why did the media have to rename the Higgs Boson the God Particle?
That's just the problem. I lack the processing power in my brain to come up with an alternative. However, stating that something is flawed has nothing to do with not having a better alternative. And I always start to panic when there is so little dissenting views on the subject. Anyway, I can feel it every fiber in my body, THE UNIVERSE IS NOT ONLY MADE OF QUARKS AND LEPTONS AND MYSTICAL FORCES THAT JUST SO HAPPEN TO FIT THE MATH. (no I am not religious either...)
higgs is very heavy and decays very quickly after it has been created.
I thinks it's something 130 times more massive than a proton. Don't shoot me if i'm wrong though. lol
scientists said they found the higgs boson exactly where they thought they would. with that in mind if i would of been in charge i would of said look there first he he
You do know what this means right? Hoverboards !!
Nobel price of physics 2012: Tuesday, October 9, 11:45 a.m. You want to bet who's gona win? lol
But there's still hope for us ;)
Einstein said theres more energy in my little finger than an atomic bomb, lets harness that power theres got to be a way!
3:00-3:20 "Now that we know the existence of the Higgs Boson, this is just as significant as ATOMIC BOMB... There will be HIGGS BOMB which could be a hundred fold the power of the atomic bomb..."
Also, photons. That too. No mass.
No se le puede dar perlas a los cerdos. You can not give a necklace to a pig because most probably he will walk over it. What most probably come out from a horse a kiss or a kick? People that do not understand what this means can not appreciate the discovery.
It is an abstract mathematical model, all within the realm of theoretical physics, and has, in my humble opinion, not much to do with the 'real mechanics or dynamics' at the quantum level. The errors being, implementing two additional unproved bogus forces (strong/weak nuclear force) to make it work and furthermore resulting in the mass of the total universe that is about 96% off. And no, gravitational lensing proves nothing, except that its just gravity at work, not dark matter/energy.
What if I told you that you don't even know the question?
Awesome
Interesting thing he said about how people are going to make money of. I just hope this discovery doesn't go in to building a massive weapon or some sort. I hope it stays jn science for science and for all of us.
People are scared of what's unknown to them. Change is scary, I find it exciting and I can't wait to see what comes of this:) people who are scared should just go embrace 'god' in church if you can't handle a pure scientific discovery that's so beautiful and amazing.
because they're searching for snooki on google, maybe?
Experimentally, quite a while ago, with work still ongoing ot make it economically viable (more power out then in, and enough to affford investment in building the power plant...). No production plants yet; some say not for a very long time, bu there is what is going on in France: iter.org
I agree, it is just that the majority of comments are immature puns on the phrase "god" particle
I understand that, my comment was directed towards the users who were commenting, with comments such as "Science 1 Religion 0".
why would they need to pop a "higgs particle" into existance, if it already exists and is there all the time? something seems strange about the whole idea of looking for the higgs... who says everything has to be a damn particle... particle this particle that...i guess without a particle you can't say, oh look there it is!
Nah. I think it's the media being the media and trying to make things simple for simple folks and get attention for their articles. It's catchy basically.
they should have named it the "end of all religions" particle, just to piece people off ;-)
very much agreed! Name one average person who can name a world reknowned mathematician. yet most could name several porn stars. not sure where we're gonna end up in 10,000 years.
ENERGY SHIELDS!!!