BEST CO2 SYSTEM FOR BEGINNERS?🤔 CO2 SYSTEM BUYING GUIDE!💵
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- čas přidán 20. 06. 2024
- Buying a CO2 system can be pretty overwhelming, especially for beginners... Today we will take a look at 6 different CO2 systems ranging from very cheap to very expensive!
1: DIY CO2 System with yeast and sugar
How I make them! • HOW TO: Make a long la...
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2: CO2 System with disposable cylinders
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Could not find this in the US unfortunately
3: Sodastream CO2 system
Unboxing! • NEVER SEEN A CO2 SYSTE...
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4: Citric acid & Baking soda System
Unboxing! • DIY CO2 FROM CITRIC AC...
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5: CO2Art Pro System (My favorite)
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0:00 - Chapters cuz uncle MJ cares about your time
1:14 - DIY System (sugar & yeast)
4:49 - Disposable cylinder system
7:46 - Soda stream system
10:33 - CO2 generator (citric acid & baking soda)
13:20 - CO2Art + 2kg cylinder
14:59 - Plantedbox reg + 2kg cyl + Intaqo
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by watching your videos i decided to try co2 injection, i bought a amazon regulator, a paintball tank to start and the plant growth since adding co2 is absolutely amazing, i dont know how anyone grows plants without co2. Thank you friend, hope you return to youtube soon
I recently entered the hobby and your videos are the best for obtaining accurate information without a bunch of nonsense talk. I appreciate that you aren't going over the top trying to entertain me and you go straight to the meat of the issue. I'm here for education. If I wanted entertainment I'd watch netflix lol. But I do like our personality as well.
I’m on DIY co2 with two plastic bottles, citric acid and baking soda…lasts about three weeks. Thinking about upgrading to the DIY reactor cylinder for the solenoid feature and better container material.
So... I was enthousiastic about DIY systems and used it for months but ended up getting a 2kg cylinder with co2art regulator. The citric acid/baking soda setup had to be refilled WEEKLY on a 180L so it ends up more expensive in materials than a pressurised system. I would say the biggest downside to DIY CO2 are the fluctuations. You'll end up adjusting your needle valve daily to account for over or under reacting of your mix. It became too frustrating and plants are suffering. It shows as nutrient deficiencies (holes in leaves and general necrosis) and ofcourse staghorn...BBA and string algae. All the products marketed close to 200,- are not worth it...not even close.
Dank voor de videos Mark!
Nice, I am just thinking about doing co2, so great to have this from someone who is/has actually used everything. Thanks MJ
Good overview, I think its pretty clear that there is no substitute for pressurised systems but if you are new to the hobby or on a budget you can get fairly decent results with DIY.
Man thank you. I just resolved my problem to choose the Co2 best to me. Thank you again
Great video! Love the detail and simplicity
Good stuffs! Really helps beginner into this hobby.
I started using bio co2 after seeing your plants... Happy to report bright red ludwigia super red and somewhat good carpet.. Its a young scape though... Will definitely go for a pressurised system in the future...
There's also the disposable canisters like the Tropica CO2 System 60 where the CO2 is injected into a container in the tank and it slowly dissolves over the course of a day. Those are reasonably cheap too.
Good video as always MJ. I'm like you diy co2 in every tank.
I use the soda stream system for 30 liter aquariums and it works very well. It costs 10 dollars to refill every 2 months, of course if you have a solenoid valve it will last longer.
Wow that's a lot of information, thanks for the comparison!!!
When using a co2 reactor instead of filling it up with water use ice. It takes longer for the reaction to occur but your yield is way way higher. With 400g of each I should get over 6mo of use.
Always wanted to try DIY
Great Co2 system guide 👍🏻
Good video with clear options and easy to understand, just what I have been trying to find.
Glad it was helpful!
Very nice content as always, thanks 🙏
As usual excellent content. You put out the best info for intermediate level aquascapers looking to move to advanced level but you explain things in a way regular folks can understand. Wish I knew you were around when I was starting.
One thing, do you not have access to paintball equipment? I’ve been using paintball tank set ups and they cost about 100 euros but you can regulate them, they come with solenoids and gauges, and you can refill the paintball tanks for about 6 euros. 20oz CO2 lasts about two months on a 20 gallon long.
When you see the “feedback sent” thing pop up and panic smash the “like” button 😆 very good video.
Great vid brother 👌🏼
Nice review. Personally I when I started with CO2 I went straight to the CO2Art system. I have one Pro SE series and one Pro Elite series with 2 manifolds.
Great information!😁
This is cool. Thank you for sharing.
Very useful info! Dankjewel!❤
Very good video, thanks.
I bought the Dennerle carbo soda, without the solenoid it sucks. You have to turn on/off the pressure valve which releases some CO2 which is a waste. Also the needle valve is tricky to adjust as you turning the main pressure on and off. It’s to easy to forget at night and risk gassing any live stock. Your right about the bottle, it can’t be exchanged, but once you have the soda stream bottles it is a great system, a 60 ltr bottle lasts about 3 to 4 months depending on size of tank ( iHave used no bigger than 70ltr) and are cheap at £12 for refill. I will look in to a solenoid as I am kind of committed and then I think it would be great. Dennerle should just include the solenoid and not the bottle or at least provide one with a serial number so it can be exchanged. Hope you’re able to feed this back to them. Regulating CO2 is essential and no solenoid is hassle and can lead to disaster.
Great video:) would love to see a vid on the intaqo controller!
It's mad I was just looking into getting co2 properly and you made this vid, literally rewatched a load of your old vids on aquascaping to set up a tank mainly for aquascaping and then this drops ha, sound man ty and perfect timing.
Nice 😊
Mark you got good content big dawg, with your aquascaping skills ide love to see you scape 45 liter long tank or 12 gallon long. The tank is beautiful and i think it would fit your style and nano tank gallery.
Loved this video! I have wanted to put co2 in my tank for ages, but have never had success with diy, and proper co2 is too expensive
Hi , is recipe of CO2 is very easy to do and last longing .
It was my first attempt whit CO2 ,and is going well. I have set it to my 2 tanks , a 20l tank and a 80l for to months now.
The only problem I have found is that in one of the system's the silicone got bad and the bottle didn't get pressure . Just re silicone again.
Just have to be careful whit the tubing to not be bending .
Tip for diy: get a medical 3 way valve and at night redirect the co2 somewhere else, through the window for example
Very interesting I'm thinking of getting number 4
I run a soda stream system on my 40 liter tank, the regulator is an "oxyturbo" reuglator with 2 gauges and solenoid. Where i live i can get a 1kg soda stream botle for 35-40 euros and when i turn it in it only costs like 15 euros and it has lasted well over a year now and does not seem to be running out of co2 anytime soon :D
citric acid and baking soda way can be stopped at night. You can use a valve between two bottles and let it stop reacting.
Bought a certified co2 2kg fire extinguisher for 22 euros (in a fire extinguisher company) , refill is 22 euros, they just swap the extinguisher by a filled one.
And what regulator u use in that system
@@kumarnathani8661 or youtibe co2 fire extinguisher for aquarium
Nicrew from amazon, 50 euros, aqua neo difusor, co2 tubing and non return valve, full system for less 100 euros
Did the same thing but got mine from a place that does beer kegs which is food grade c02 and bought a regulator with solenoid. Total cost A$183 or €112
@angeloschlosz6961 you got ripped off I got mine for $12 from Amazon ggs
You can make the first one even cheaper by using a DIY diffuser, like a small container that you hang upside down underwater and insert the end of the CO2 tube into, allowing it to collect the CO2 bubbles. The size of the container can be calculated with one of the online calculators, the size of the container is based on the size of your aquarium surface.
mini kegs for beer making are meant for yeast, might be a solid start for a diy system might even take the pressure of acid/soda method.
Just picked up the Dennerle 300 quantum SE from the budget corner in Hornbach for €29,99!!
Best aquarium deal of my life :)
That's a great deal!
I love my Midrange 2.5L CO2 Generator. It lasts me 3 months for my Nano Tank. Plus it’s cheap and easy to refill. I recommended it to a couple people and they also love it 🙂
Name pls?
Fzone CO2
I am little late to the party but i want to ask you a few questions if u have time to answer : 1. Did u had any problems with dennerle Co2 systems ?! (leak etc.) 2. Do you have a Co2 sensor in the room with all the aquariums and if u do what type?! 3.Do u have permanent ventilation in the aquarium room ?! I allready ordered dennerle 400 Co2 system but i am scared i will return it before even opening the box :D ! Thank you in advance ! Love your videos watched them over and over :D
Hey! not related to the topic today, but could you recommend me whihc background film you prefer the most? ans were to get it? Thank you so much - huge fan!
I have option 4 in another brand cost $300 australian. I think it is 200 euro. I would have prefered 4 or 5 but co2 is not easy to get in the country town that I live in. As you said in the video I purchace my citric acid and baking soda in bulk. Seam to work well
The co2 citric/bicarb reactor is only like €45 direct from china though which I think makes it a very very attractive proposition for nano's
Ahh the sugar and yeast.
It should be able to put a Y connector on the tube. And on that branch off, put a solenoid that just go out to atmosphere when open.
So when we want to shut off the co2 then open the solenoid and the pressure is off from the diffuser.
And when we want start to inject co2 then pover off and close the solenoid.
Preferly do that 2h before light turns on.
Make sure that in this config put a check valve on the tube in between the Y and the diffuser.
Another tip is to have the same timer that goes to the solenoid also feeding power to a air pump and a air stone so will it help to vent out co2 during the night safer for the fish when plants also produce co2 during night.
Love the video buddy, could I ask where did you get your co2 cylinders from? I been trying to look for a good looking one like yours for sometime.
I got them from planted-box.com/
Will you do a passive vs. diffused CO2 video?
that Dennerle soda stream bottle system is super expensive considering what you get, wow and i thought ADA and Fluval prices were bad, Dennerle getting a bit big in the britches if you ask me.
i have the same regulator you have on the big shallow, the silver one only i have two needle valve/bubble counters. I have it connected to a 5lb bottle. I got the bottle for $40 USD and the regulator for $120... some days i wish i had access to the nice 60p and other rimless tanks you guys have in europe (they are SO expensive here for some reason i honestly just don't understand it) - but then i see the prices you pay for fish, co2, and basically everything else and it is so much more expensive than what we have access to in the united states
I´m planning to set up a 1,2 m aquarium after the flat´s been renovated and if my plants may need additional CO2, I think I´ll just spend some more money and get a good system. DIY looks cool, but it´s also a bit of work. But I might use it on a small shrimp tank or something.
Yeah DIY is best for small tanks
Can you make a extra video on how you set up your first Co2 system?
in Indonesia using 5kg cyl is the best option for the long term, and If you have multiple tank syndrome like me is heaven, you can use a splitter for co2
you can get the airline regulaters to use on first co2
Hey im new to aquascaping, and i am slowly planning my first aquarium. With the CO2 plastic bottle setup- do you leave it in overnight since it doesn't have a valve? i guess that would mess up the CO2 balance in the tank - what are the consequences? Thank you for the informative video!
Another really interesting video. I love the baking soda citric acid for my nano system. I get around 2 months at 1bps and it's so easy to refill, takes around 10 minutes. These can be bought quite cheaply if one shops around as can bulk baking soda and citric acid.
Obviously the more professional models "5 & 6" in the video are the ultimate but the initial cost is high and if, like me. you don't have anyone local to refill the cylinders it can be a real pain.
I don't think we can get Dennerle bottles shipped to UK and I find the soft drink bottles are just too unsightly 😎.
Thanks “Uncle MJ” 😉
😁
bonjour tres interessant merci 👍
Very good ¡¡¡
I have a question and it might be dumb, but here it goes... As a welder, I use pressure regulator on a daily basis but as a fishkeeper I need a solenoid valve for it. Now, If i get a big CO2 bottle and a pressure regulator that easily withstands 200bar, I set the flow on pressure regulator to, lets say 0.5 bar, would it be safe to attach a solenoid valve on such system? With a lot of space, i can put an industrial 150bar CO2 bottle with an industrial pressure regulator in my apartment and it could last forever. Now my question is, with about 0.5-1 bar flow set on the regulator, would it be safe to attach a solenoid valve to it? Big pressure bottle requires me to open and close it manually which is super inconvenient. Solenoid would help a lot, but would it be safe? I don't know how they work and I have never used one, so I am not sure if the pressure would build up inside making a big boom boob boom in the house. Bottle and regulator and bubble counter work amazingly and fish are happily swimming and plants are growing but since i have never used a solenoid and never seen someone using a solenoid on such system, I don't know would it work safely.
Do you have a vid on the ph controller and how to set up the expensive co2 please
Before getting a pressurized system, better check how easy it is to get a refill. Had two tanks of pressurized CO2 but had to fall back to Citric Acid + Baking soda setup because of how hard it is to get a refill.
I asked one store one day, they said they don't refill 2L CO2 tanks. They said only plants (gas plants) do that. I asked where those plants are. Just got seenzoned.
Another one, they said that they would even pick up the tank! Ok sure! Waited for 4 days and nothing. They didn't even reply to my message after asking them daily.
And yet another one, same speil, free pickup. Waited for them to pickup, they made excuses like they got a flat, next day, driver got confused etc etc. Until one day, I asked them if they still want my business, they never answered.
paintball guns work on co2 cylinders. i don't know whether there is a difference (quality) of co2 for PB guns and that for aquariums.
Also soda stream cylinders...
Don't know if you have these facilities or shops, but I reckon it could be worth a try to ask around. I used to fill at a paintball course nearby us for a fraction than that of soda stream (for my soda stream) but stopped using it in my soda stream due to taste..
Hi, what manufacturer are the aluminium cylinder from and where can they be bought? Thank you.
I would recommend the CO2 reactors over the soda stream type systems. They cost a lot less to run, and run for about the same amount of time.
Not really, the most expensive co2 generator he showed only produces 1/4 the amount of co2 a Sodastream bottle does before needing replacement. Where I am it costs $15 to replace a Sodastream canister, which is easily a cost I can put up with every two or three months.
@@bigbowlowrong4694 There are generators that produce up to 400g of CO2, but they are quite large at that point. I can refill my 100g CO2 generator for less than $2, so still less than half the cost of what you pay for soda stream bottles, but I can see some advantages to soda stream bottles if you can get them that inexpensively!
So if i were to buy a reactor system with steel tank, can I later use the regulator on a regular refillable co2 tank if I get tired of making my own? Or would I need to start over with a plain regulator?
Where do you get the large 6kg cylinders ? Would this work for a growroom?
Hi I have just started to use the co2 kit the chrome one like you are showing but mine is a 1Lt it got the bubble counter and gauge no solenoid how many bubbles do I need per second and how much water do you put in the bubble counter cheers
Dear MJ, i have a question about the yeast diy system, why does it not have the second "cleaning bottle" anymore?
Great content, where can I buy those 2kg bottles for the co2 art regulators
I got them from this website planted-box.com/
Thank you mate 👍👍
So if I am understanding the cheap version could also be another hobby ,
Buy making mead and using a co2 defuser after it's fermented you have used all the co2 and got mead out of it
Nice.. maybe another video to compare the cheap diy style soda bottle systems that can be bought online. Head to head of the Yeast versus Citric Acid / Baking Soda systems for beginners.
Why didn't you include using a co2 fire extinguisher?
Hi. I just build a DIY bottle system after have seen you make it, in a video. I do belive i made a system where i can shut of the flow to the akvarium. I put a "t cross" at the hose with a vent i can shut to the akvarium and a vent i can open so the c02 goes into a 3 bottle. I know i have to remember open and closing them in the morning and in the evening. I dont dare to shut it of completlig. but maby with stronger material it can be done. It is a low pressure system. any comment ?
Hej Buddy love your vidoe's .. so I love this one.. but I want to add something here.. cause not everyone wants to buy a CO2 system. I run my tank now for over a year with EasyCarbo from Easy Life. It is liquid CO2 and with outstanding results. I use 1ltr of this stuff for little over a 3 months on my Rio 240 aquarium. I think it is a very good low tech solution for peeps who do not want to spend the high prices on most CO2 systems.
Hi there, there is no such thing as ‘liquid co2’. MJ has a video dedicated to adding carbo liquid, have a look.
OP where do you get the co2 tank handles? those look a lot nicer than the bulky ones on amazon.
Yea would be nice to know where to get the tank handles...
Do you think that having this inside my bedroom can be dangerous? For some leaking or can explode?
I just purchased a Co2 art regulator is it normal for the solenoid to get warm during use?
hii, can you please tell me can i convert collombo DIY Co2 cylinder into pressurised co2 cylinder, like how much pressure it can handle etc, valve change etc
What is the gelatine used for?
Hey so the DIY with plastic bottles, your older setup vid has you using two bottles and in this video it's one bottle? Why? and is one ok, thought the second cleaned the co2.......
I have a question. With the first diy system you have one bottle and no second bottel with water in it as you had in your old video about diy co2. Is there a reason for that?
The second bottle with water is optional. Sometimes the yeast in the diy system can produce a lot of foam. The second bottle with water will catch the foam so it doesn't clog the CO2 diffuser
How many hours do you keep co2 on?
What about airpumps? its a really common thing too.
Hey buddy just wanted to know that using fire extinguisher co2 cylinder with industrial co2 regulator is worth using?
Yes 100% your find then online for 22 delivered or Locally on ebay or posted. Co2 is co2..
Pleas give us a link for your nice 2kg cylinders
Yeah... I like my 1L soda bottle option especially as I'm feeding daphnia yeast as well.
Cheap & pretty decent for a refill every couple days. The plants are perfectly fine without it, but it's nice to do green-ups every once in awhile. =)
I have a question and I can seem to find anyone on the web trying this out.( unbelievable right?) .
I have refillable CO2 cartridges, refilled via a valve.
I’m wondering if I can use on of those Aquarium CO2 generators and just connect a charging needle to it to refill my 12g cartridges?
A 5lb CO2 cylinder and regulator for draft beer dispensing costs about $120-130 with $15-20 for refill ~ = 4.5 500g bottles. all you need is a tubing adapter, disperser and possibly bubbler.
You are not wrong about the sodastream one, buying that one doesn't make sense at all even for people who have sodastream already. Don't know what was dennerle thinking
In long term the expensive ones are the cheapest ones.
100euro/dollar pressurized co2 tank+50euro/$ pressure regulator, 5$ co2 silicone tube, 10$ reactor and thats it
That's a lot of expensive equipment. What do you do for a living .? Hope you don't mind😅
How do I buy intaglio in USA? Ty
You mentioned that you can't shut the DIY off at night. True yes but can't you just take the tube out of the aquarium and stick it out the window over night and return it to the aquarium in the morning?? Silly question I know but am I right?
Yep of course you can!
How long does the 2kg pressurized canister last?
That really depends on the size of the aquarium and how much you are injecting. I’m currently using a 2kg cylinder on a 90cm tank. I’ve installed it in March and at the moment it’s still running but almost empty
Hi.
You forget 1system.
Bicarbonate and citrique acid...
For the first one, would it be possible to split between two tanks as a sort of “regulator”?
Absolutely. As someone who ferments for a living, all you need to do is make sure that the CO2 has a way out if the bottle if the pressure gets too high. This is a common problem and there are many solutions to that. Using an air lock (or 2) of some kind would be a good idea. Because yes, this kind of stuff absolutely can explode. Not particularly dangerous unless you're standing right above it or something.
Perhaps you can clarify what you mean by regulator to split between two tanks. The pro style regulators allow you to control the pressure of the CO2 delivered to the diffuser so that it's accurate and consistent. If you split between two tanks you'll just be taking whatever pressure there is and splitting it between the two tanks. I tried that on my cheap DIY style CO2 (Citric Acid / Baking Soda) system and the pressure was never high enough to make bubbles come out of the diffusers. I think that's because the diffusers require a minimum pressure drive the CO2 through the membrane. My DIY system has a small needle valve on it, but it's very sensitive to get just right. The other problem is the pressure inside my soda bottles isn't as consistent as the pro-systems so I'm having to adjust it regularly to keep by bubbles per second the same.
My cheap DIY style CO2 (Citric Acid / Baking Soda) system has a pressure release value in case the pressure inside the soda bottle gets too high in case that's what you meant.
The prices you mention are shocking. Here we just get the chinese alu cylinders and chinese mufan regulators which do a terrific job. And all in with solanoids and bubble counters the whole system costs a 100 us dollars !
You can even get one for 85$
Heb niet alle reacties gelezen, dus excuses mocht dit al eerder gevraagd zijn.
Je geeft aan dat de CO2 reactor (Colombo) weinig produceert, maar is dit systeem niet te gebruiken met de diy gelatine/suiker/gist variant? Heb je dan niet meer productie, maar met de voordelen van de reactor?
What about paintball canisters? Anyone try one of them?
why you don't create your own DIY pH and fert pump instead of spending 700Euros?
besides the water bottle all the other do the same thing, i mean pure liquid presure co2