1 Small Joker BREAKS The Game!!
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Intro: Fallen Destiny Pt 1 - Tekken 8
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What's really interesting is that since Frost got so many Eris levels, wee joker actually never really got above giving a functional 3x score
Came here to comment this lol. Sad but true
How do you think this is correct? Since the mult got so high, each single chip provided by wee joker was a larger score increase than trying to increase mult. It’s not even hard math. Look at this
800x1000000= 8000000
3800x1000000= 3.8b
800x3000000= only 2.4b
Small brain CZcams commenters
But that is still kinda insane a times 3 ing your score
@@kazboven9744not really, a hanging chad (which is not very good) also gives a x3 because you get another x1.5x2=x3, and at that point in the game perkeo was keeping endless possible by converting to red seal. It was a waiting game for observatory+blueprint to go nutty mode
@@wtfuntime i was waiting for observatory from the second i saw perkeo it woulda been crazy
that chatter was not on drugs. selling all jokers to duplicate hack would have made score insanely huge because you can get double trigger on every single hand instead of only the last one (w one copy of hack + a dusk).
1:01 frost when he gets turned into a pistol shrimp
stupidest joke ever, i love it
In this video, Frost Prime drops massive deuces everywhere and gets paid for it.
Like in a urinal?
Oh Andrew be BALLIN with these edits that increase the understanding of the run but also the little funny edits that make the video fun to watch
3:51 Hohohohoholy, he laughs like Brook from One Piece
For those curious, Frost's highest hand value in this run was 61 quadrillion :)
I love that at the end you can see that Frost rerolled exactly 100 times
It's not the size of the joker, but how you use it
Sounds like something a joker would say.
1:35 Wee Joker that early is god tier
Seriously, ANDREW, you continue to hit us with those god tier edits. Keep up the good work!
I love Andrew's style of editing, so funny and helpful ^^
unrelated but thank you for updating the playlists. I play them at night to help sleep and have noticed they haven't been updated lol
To many people see "Chips is number, mult make number bigger fast." When they should see Red and Blue as two numbers Multiplied Together.
You want to raise whichever is Lowest, to get the best results. That's why Wee is good in this setup.
Though blue was being increased heavily by the level of Flush 5.
It is important, and the balancing in the plasma deck shows it, but by this stage, it isn't making enough of a difference.
By the end, the base chips of flush 5 are ~1100, and Wee Joker is adding ~2700. So that's a x4 to chips.
In contrast, dropping Wee Joker for Dusk, or later dropping all the jokers to duplicate Hack, gives x243 to to mult from the extra retrigger.
1000 x 4 chips x 1billion mult = 4 trillion score. But 1000 chips x 1 billion *x243* mult = 243 trillion.
It's not close. Dropping basically anything and everything to focus on retriggering the hand is *far* more effective than the effects of any single +chips or xmult joker. Even the jokers that scale up like constellation, vampire, etc, all pale in comparison to the x243 of retriggering a hand of glass polychrome cards.
The worst 2 jokers at the dusk spot was definitely wee joker and than constellation. Flush 5 was already at 1k+ chips, so just like what one of the chatter said, wee (+~2k chips at the point) was a x3 only. If blueprint and brainstorm showed up, DNA would be great to add more steel cards in hand and maybe transform the run into a high card run. sucks that neither of them showed.
Good point
Wee was probably the most crucial joker at that point. The mult was already insane, so what Frost needed was more chips, and wee was what was giving more chips. Wee was the only chip scaling and mult was already crazy.
What you said is true only for the early part of the run. Look at the numbers, not the synergy. What he needed was more retriggers, since each retrigger would be x(1.5x2)^5 = x243. Wee doesn't matter that much here anymore.
for example: 3k x 1 million = 1k x 3 million
In this example, a new retrigger replacing wee makes 3k x 1 million into 1k x 1 million x 243.
@@lancemartin5207
And he was incorrect. A X3 to chips is not better than a x243 to mult.
1000 x ~3 chips x 1billion mult = 3 billion.
1000 chips x 1billion x 243 mult = 243billion.
It's not close. Dropping Wee Joker, and later dropping everything to duplicate Hack, were the correct decisions. I'm gonna steal the run's seed to see if I get further than Frost, and I'm pretty sure I will.
It's a classic comparison of linear growth and geometric growth. Linear growth is faster earlier proportionally, and then it slow down. Geometric growth is slower to start, but it keeps ramping up.
1.0001^x is going to out grow 1 trillion x eventually. Wee joker's +2k chip was outgrown by x1.5x2 of the glass polychrome.
the Fibonacci skip hurt my soul that might have carried a lot further
bro edited an entire 1 hour video, big props
Andrew, you're killin it in the game on this edit man - really funny stuff, thanks!
BALLATRO BE BALLIN (Whoop Whoop) :-)
Thank you for never changing your outro song.
Hits me with a bit of nostalgia at the end of every video. ❤
'Tis wee but 'tis enough
3:52 literally the brook (One Piece) laugh 🤣
This run was so fucking sick im so tight you never found observatory.
Frost didn't need to skip a round to keep Death in hand. He could have used the Death, then used the negative Fool to turn into a Death, then start cloning that Death.
that pissed me off... how he didn't saw that
I love the editing on these videos
59:50 Yes, dropping everything and Duping Hack actually *would* be better than literally everything else there. Retriggering the hand an extra time gets him x243 mult. Perkeo close to redundancy already, Wee Joker isn't doing nearly as much as people think it is and constellation is a measly x10. Dusk also adds x243, but only on the final hand.
Finding ways to duplicate your retriggers should be the main goal. Duping hack would easily be correct, figure out whatever other jokers you can get later.
Balatro be indeed ballin
Man I love Tekken music. And Balatro Ballin'
Balatro do indeed be ballin
Subgoal is fire and balatro be ballin
I love these edits just way too much.
I will say, rhe editor went crazy today! amazing job guys!!!
I am a simple man
I like to ball
So when I see balatro
I bet it all
On the man himself
Never a day behind
We know him, we love him
This damn Frost Prime
homie, so glad we've got a game that you're enjoying again that isn't STS. Still love STS, but love seeing you and the community stoked for something else. Much love from abroad!
i still dont know if dusk also makes red seal proc again, if it doesnt its a 243 multiplier, but if it does then its a 59049 mult. regardless its miles better than the relative 3x increase from wee, which barely scales. even if it scales 500 per round it still needs 16 rounds to catch up to constellation and thats assuming you arent levelling up flush five anymore, which makes the relative increase lower and constellation mult higher.
red seal doesn't get retriggered. if a card with red seal gets retriggered then in total the card is counted 3 times. base trigger, red trigger, other retrigger.
You can watch it happen when he uses a single card for DNA. Hack makes it retrigger but it doesn't retrigger red seal, the card only triggers 3 times, not 4.
All the Joker retriggers work the same, so Dusk would do the same.
BALLATRO BE BALLIN
Balatro be actually ballin
BALATRO be Ballin
Your editor is on fire! 🔥
Wouldn't that late Fibonacci have been insane? Not trying to backseat, just wanting to learn
Is Andrew lifting harder on these videos,
to cover for Frost slipping on the small stuff?
Cause if so I see no flaws in this God gamer's plays
Even from the first like 5 minutes this run is so pog it’s insane
This run was insane... genuine question, since he knew that he had enough to 1 hand most of the rounds, would it be more efficient to play some pair/3 of a kind hands to not one shot things to stack the small joker more, or to just one shot the rounds later on for more money, higher chance of finding better jokers?
BALLATRO BE BALIN'
"Translate to english" lol, Google can't comprehend what the hell we are saying
Balatro be ballin
GOOD JOB ANDREW. EDITOR OF THE STARRRRSSS!!!
Balatro be ballin'!
Wait... we did it! Whoo? Thanks for the tomorrow
That's the earliest legendary I've seen lmao
i got 2 jokers on the same shop right before the boss on ante 2
@@justarandomchannel1319 Two legendary jokers, right? Cause otherwise that's just normal
Balls n balatro
ballatro be ballin
GOATED run
Balatro be Ballin!
Didn't frost throw the last hand? Couldn't he have played more flush fives to rack up score. He just played singular cards when he had plenty of discards.
BALATRO BE BALLIN
so close to totally breaking game . rlly crazy it got so far with no negatives or duped jokers
Maybe i dont know the actual math but there is no way Wee Joker is just a X3 the chips its giving is also getting multiplied
Yeah but so are the base chips. It's taking the base number from roughly 1k to roughly 3k, which is effectively around the same as just multiplying it by 3 once
thats the actual math
Modded balatro soon??? 🧐🤔
Yo sick deck bro
Frost fuckin ballin
Isn't wee the same as x3-x4 multiplier there? You're getting a bit over 1000 chips from just base flush five and wee is adding bit under 3000.
x3.63 mult to be more precise. I feel like frost is overestimating the scaling of the other side of the equation
In the endgame, wee joker had effectively became a x3 mult joker. Pretty much useless. A hanging chad on a poly + red seal would be x9 mult easily. (It might actually even be x81 mult)
Cery cool run! Score would have been way way way way higher if you kept the polychrome diamond joker and got rid of constellation. Still fun though!
had my first trillion point game last night. I now understand why people get addicted to gambling
I thought you said Weed Joker and waited the whole time for you to get the weed joker
@Andrew 16:51 *speechless
Balatro truly be ballon
Balatro will never be ballin
crazy
You should’ve put in the 2 song from super jail
Peglin poglin
Wee joker chips was about 3x mult value the whole round btw.
That guy who said duplicate hack wasn’t totally wrong. The other cards were x30, total, any retrigger card from shop beats that, and 3 slots for x30 total is not that great considering the 2 retrigger slots you had were x59,000…
Another retrigger is x243. Of course those are super rare. Your shop was a bit gummed up by tarot, planet, and playing cards. Thats why you werent seeing many jokers.
Duplicate Hack was the right play entirely. A single extra retrigger destroys the cumulative efforts of wee Joker *and* constellation put together (a roughly x3 and x10 for ~x30, while an extra trigger is x243).
Selling all the jokers to dupe it, and then just finding other jokers, would have gotten the highest score.
have you got the seed?
Ballatro is amazing, but ht emaths hurt my brains.
43:22
5 in 14 or about 36%.
BALATRO B' BALLIN
BalatrOwO
Perkeo is soooo much better than dna because if u have the voucher where planet cards held give 1.5x mult and u held an eris, u couldve probably won thatvlast round
Plausible but he didn't get that voucher I don't think so it wouldn't happen.
DNA was the better option because it actually produced cards rather than just converting them. And when you're working with glass, that's important.
But the real drop should've been Wee Joker. Boosting chips is important early game, but with such a high leveled Flush five, Wee Joker was only increasing chips by a factor of 3-4. Dusk increased mult by *x243*.
Which is better? 4000 chips x 1billion mult, or 1000 chips x 243billion mult?
BALATRO BE BOLLIN'
B.B.B.
you knows its gonna be a broken run when the vid is an hour long
U should copy eris to get 1.5 mult for every eris in hand by observation
Nice balls frost
i is so angry when he uses negative fool and not normal fool
22?
Balatro killed my mom in 1972
2?
everyone underestimating wee joker is just showing everyone they can't do math 💀
I like wee joker _and_ I can't do math! I'm progressive!
Can you explain it to me then? Im genuinely asking if Im missing something because it goes from 1280 x 1.324e13 to 4640x1.324e13. 4640/1280 is about 3.62. So its an increase by x3.62 mult so not that impressive. Although if flush five wasnt insanely scaled it would have been alot better
@@Dr.DinkleYou're not missing anything, that's correct. Wee Joker is really good through ante 9 or 10, but once the required scores start scaling by 100x or 1000x per ante, a 4x multiplier doesn't keep up
its around a 3x multiplier, retriggering a single glass + polychrome card once does that. thats why dusk is miles better than wee.
the scaling is bad because frost is also levelling up the flush five, which makes constellation scale and the relative increase lower
@@Dr.Dinklewell by the end that’s what it was, but it carried him through the game until then.
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I got small joker to 1400 i had hack
BBB
Frost please start using the non negative tarrot that perkio creates so you can stack more negative consumables it hurt my soul every time you use the negative over the normal one. Finnally a chatter pointed out you should use tje non negative one thx random chatter
0:59 Pov: a homophobe looks at the pride flag
x2
Play the slay the spire duelist mod
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“Get rid of wee joker” fans proving they cannot do multiplication
Okay by the end of the run when flush 5 got to a crazy high level they started being maybe right but up until then
Frost is a MUCH better player at this game then me but there are some moves that I just don't understand.
I know this is backseaterry but I just need to know why.
He is saying every round I'm doing this for the money or I don't wanna break the glass jokers Why not to scale wee joker faster and make more money drop pair gold stamp 2 hands its not going to get him the win and each gold stamp is worth 2 dollars more then ending the round with additional hands it would be SOOO much more money at the end.
Ahhh Malf suggested it later in the video but kinda in a roundabout way
day 580 of asking frost to play chess
bro playing mtg
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49:32 Constellation not only had way more value than the wee joker, but it would likely keep having more value forever despite wee's scaling.
Assuming you played 1 hand of 5 red sealed 2's every round, wee got 120 chips every round.
To catch up to constellation's mult, it would need (1120*7.9)-2210=6638 more chips, which means it would take 6638/120≈56 rounds for wee to be better than constellation.
Not only would you not have gone 56 more rounds, but the amount of rounds wee would need to catch up would increase whenever you leveled up flush five, whenever you buffed constellation, and if the 2's you played didn't all have red seals.
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plus, levelling up flush five also increases chips so it makes the relative increase lower
@@Milbyte11 i did mention that
Also, absolutely *all* of that pales in comparison to retriggering the hand *once* (which is x243 mult with glass polychrome cards).
So not only was dropping Wee Joker for Dusk the right call, but later, *dropping everything you have to duplicate Hack* is the right call. Build back with whatever other jokers, a single Hack is better than Wee and Constellation combined.