How to choose a fountain pen for drawing and art
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
- This video is for beginners. The topics covered are as follows:
1. Introduction to fountain pens
2. Going through parts of a fountain pen
3. Choosing fountain pen ink
4. Maintenance
5. Recommendation on fountain pens for beginners
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MY RECOMMENDED BEGINNER'S FOUNTAIN PEN
Lamy Safari - www.parkablogs.com/node/6759
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If you don't want to spend the money on a converter you can refill fountain pen ink cartridges with a syringe and reuse them. I have cartridges I've been using since the 90's
I used to try that but eventually found it a hassle 😂
most waterproof inks are made out of shellac, which is not very advised for fountain pens(according to the fountain pen community) because when the ink dries, the fountain pen risks getting clogged up. so the shellac based inks are really meant for dip pens
My favorite is the TWSBI Eco-soooo smooth and soooo pretty
Going on your advice I bought Noodlers water-proof ink and, just like you said, it did not clog my pen and I only clean my fountain pens once a month. So thank you for your good advice.
Bought my first few of this week. I love writing and drawing with them. Love it.
+CJ Walton That's great 😬
The great thing about many Pelikan pens is you can use a TWSBI pen wrench and disassemble the piston fill mechanism in the same way that you disassemble the TWSBI pen. You can also pull the nib straight off most of the Lamy pens, and even purchase different nibs including italics easily online.
Not entirely true, that only applies to the Pelikan M800 and M1000.
Great info! I still use some of these as my daily writers. I don't remember if you mentioned it, but the nibs for the Lamy Safari are easily swapped. Another great selling point for the Lamy. Keep the vids coming.
Thank you again for a very thorough comprehensive video. I like your thoughts
Thank you so very much for your generous wealth of information!!!
Thank you I find your videos so helpful I now have a Lamy Pen and a Sailor Fude and they are nice to use. Yes I would love to see a drawing/painting video !
Thanks Teoh, , I started with a Noodlers and now have a Lamy Safari, a Sailor and am going on and on... . Thanks so much for all you share. I appreciate it ...
Thanks :-)
Lots of different pens to chose from, I have a sailor beginer type. I wish I had one of those specialty cross music emperor nibs, but thier costly. thanks for another great video.
Really cool pens. I have a couple of fountain pens now. The only ones I really use now are the Pilot Metal Falcon (SF), TWSBI Diamond 580, and the Pilot 78G (F) for details. I thought I would use all my pens when I got them but I always go back to these three for drawing.
+Ian Chio My current favourites now are the Pelikan M200 Fine and Pilot Custom Heritage 743 Falcon.
This is what I needed .Thank you.
Thank you Teoh, exactly what I needed, everything from the basics :D Cheers from Australia
+MaZEEZaM Welcome 😁
Those Fude nib pens look really interesting. Thanks for showcasing them.
very helpful review
thankyou very much !
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thanks for that great demo how to fill a fountain pen with a converter on the pen. I didn't think to do that. hopefully I haven't damaged any pens.
Thank you! Very helpfull!
Thanks a bunch for the video
What a difference a year makes! It may be time to update this video, because some recent developments might cause some to question your usually sound recommendations: I realize you're addressing beginners, and you often cite economy (or cheapness) in your recommendations, but you should talk about the option of the very inexpensive FPs that have come on the market by Chinese manufacturers like Jinhao --in some cases directly aping pens you push like the Lamy Safari. I think a beginner might prefer pens that list for $2US on Amazon to even inexpensive mainstream pens like the Safari and Prera that can cost 10x as much. My own kids got started on Jinhaos and have graduated to the better (and more expensive) pens as they learn more about their drawing and writing tools. You have other videos I know about using the Jinhao w/ a flex nib, so hence my suggestion. But you also overlook Noodler's as a pen manufacturer: the pens you recommend all have fairly stiff nibs and offer pretty consistent line weight. We both know a varied line is often preferred and a pen like Noodler's Ahab is a triple threat with 1. a nice flexible nib and 2. holds a whoppingly huge amount of ink as an eyedropper and 3. is incredibly cheap for such a good pen. Definitely some new choices for beginners looking to draw with the ink capacity of a fountain pen, so I say again: time to update!
Hi, thanks. At the time I made this video, I was aware of those cheap China made pens. However, I'm not really sure of their quality (a few of mine stopped working) so I did not really recommend them. I recommend the Lamy because it's easy to clean and dismantle even though it's a bit more expensive.
+Teoh Yi Chie
I certainly agree, see my comment on your Flex Nib video concerning my own experience with the Jinhao 450 and the Zebra G. But the Noodler's Ahab is a fine, inexpensive pen built for the artist (or writer) with an affection for flexible nib lines and I really feel you power it to yourself to try it.
Still, your followers would, I think, benefit from your experienced perspective on pens like the Jinhao, Duke and/or Baoer (and others) if only because they have so quickly become a presence on the FP scene and are having an effect on the American if not the world market. People are buying them, for better or worse, and respected voices such as yours have the weight to have done effect on the very users (new and otherwise) you're trying to reach.
+sdovas "owe," not "power." Damn spellchecker.
Thanks. I'll also ask my friends who are using these China made pens for more information.
Thanks for the information very helpful for beginners.
+Anita Gendron McMahon Welcome 😁
Ma in questo tipo di penna si può usare l'nchiostro di china? E Cosa ne pensi della Art pen della rOTRHING ,?
Thank
ty for sharing!
Most helpful. Thanks!
+Librarygurl Thanks
Thank you for an interesting and informative video.
+William Morgan Thanks :-)
Teoh am a huge fan of your video and your tips! Thanks for sharing and making it to simple and informative! Please come to india to paint some time soon!
I'll be going to India to paint next week. Will be painting at Vijayawada.
Pen Pineapple Fountain Pen
Quintus_II that is the definition of cringe
This is a really nice video, though I'm very interested in the Sailor specialty nibs. What do you think of the Naginata Togi, if you have experience with it?
+makey95 Sorry, I've no experience of the Naginata Togi but it looks like an interesting pen. From other reviews I've seen, it seems that the nib can produce slight variations of stroke. Not surprising after looking at how they design the tip of the nib. If you're interested in Sailor specialty nib, my recommendation would be to look at the Cross, Cross Music and Cross Concord (and variants with Emperor tabs on the nib). Those are nibs that can give you much distinct line variations, especially Cross Music. I've reviews of Cross and Cross Music on my blog at www.parkablogs.com/node/11565 and www.parkablogs.com/node/11635
Very helpful video! Thanks so much!
Thanks
+Teoh Yi Chie where do you buy that pen because I love drawing and a pen like this would help me
Great info video, how ever I can't decide what to get I used to have a long time a go a Lamy when I say long time probably in the 80's and lost it I was very young at the time. Way back in the days those fountain pens were not that great but I'm thinking that they have improve through out the years, so a little skeptical about it. So I have 2 questions, what about the Noodlers Fountain pen do you think is a good fountain pen to start? I know you like the ink though. The other question is, from the pens you have suggested have you had any accidents like a pen spilling ink while you travel? Thanks in advance and keep up the great videos :)
+EmeralDQueenTV For beginners I would recommend the Lamy fountain pen over the Noodlers. Lamy is smoother and don't have smell. Performs very well too. Noodlers nib is only fixed at fine while there are more options to choose from with Lamy. Ink does not really spill from pen as long as you fit the ink converter and cap well. Planes, it's best to always keep the pen upright, or don't have ink in it.
Teoh Yi Chie That Noodlers smell thing sounds really weird. Have you tried soaking your pen body in a solution of baking soda and water? Or even just sticking it in a box of dry baking soda for a day or 2? Baking soda is very useful for removing odors.
I like Penbbs. They’re solid pens and $19.99 USD, and as far as ink... I recommend you don’t worry too much about it. Just make sure it won’t gum up in your pen before you buy it.
thank you for such a thorough and thoughtful video. thank you :)
for my first pen I’m thinking about getting the Safari or TWSBI ECO, but see other cheaper ones like Pen BBS, Jinhao, and Wing Sung that are very affordable. If I had $30 and could only buy one pen , which one would you get?
Maybe the TWSBI because it looks good
Very nice
Thank you so very much for this video. Glad I found your channel. You got yourself a new subscriber.
+Andre L. Thanks 😁
I wonder if you can suggest a fountain pen that doesn't skip when you draw quickly with it? So far the only pen I've found that measures up is the Carbon Platinum desk pen, but I'd like a pen with a more normal nib size too (it's very fine). I've tried Lamy safari, several Jinhao, the Sailor fude pens etc. I just can't find a sketching pen I really like as most of them tends to fall short when I hatch or draw very quick lines.
Fountain pens most likely will skip if you draw fast. I can't think of any
@@teohyc Aside from the Carbon Platinum. It handles anything.
hey teoh, nice video! I was wondering what the Amber colored pen was in the maintenance section. thanks!
+Artseytips That's a Pelikan M200 Cognac. If you want to get it, I recommend a Fine nib. www.amazon.com/Pelikan-M200-Fountain-Cognac-Special/dp/B00JXBX8U6?tag=ttmus-20
+Teoh Yi Chie thank you!! :)
It seams to me there is no perfect ink that gives the advantage of water proof and alcohol marker proof. So I typically go for Bombay black for the darkness and waterproofing and if I’m using copic markers or another alcohol based marker I then make a photocopy on Bristol at the local copy store
Very informative video, thanks for sharing. I have purchased a large bottle of Chromacryl waterproof drawing ink to use with my dip pens and my calligraphy fountain pens. The bottle states that it will not block technical pens, but being an acrylic ink and since I do not use my fountain pens very regularly, I suspect that it may block my pens if left to dry in the feed. Will the ink remain wet if the pen is capped? Should I empty and clean my pens between uses? Do you have any experience using acrylic based ink in your pens? Any advise you can offer would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
+Fred Morris Any ink that is waterproof is very possibly using pigmented carbon so it's always best to wash the pen after a while. I would wash once every month of use. If you look at the rim around your bottom, if you find those crusty dried up bits, it's a sure sign you need to wash the pen regularly.
+Teoh Yi Chie Thanks for the advise.
Cool
Thanks bud!!
+jonnybravo007 Thanks!
Hi Teoh, I've been looking at fountain pens and many have mentioned that LAMY Safari is a good beginner's pen, but I know it has an ergo grip. I can't get used to the ergo grip because I don't hold my pen the usual way... Is there another beginner's pen?
+artgapelove The cheaper ones would be the...
Platinum Plaisir (feels cheap but good)
www.parkablogs.com/picture/review-platinum-plaisir-fountain-pen
Pilot Prera (short pen)
www.parkablogs.com/picture/review-pilot-prera-fountain-pen
Pilot Kakuno (cute)
www.parkablogs.com/picture/review-pilot-kakuno-fountain-pen
Or if you have more budget...
Twsbi 580
www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=twsbi+580&tag=ttmus-20
Pelikan M200
www.parkablogs.com/picture/review-pelikan-m200-fountain-pen
Muji fountain pen
Teoh, every time I fill my fountain pen with the waterproof ink for sketching, it always clogs and does not flow. HELP!!
What waterproof ink do you use? Perhaps get some fountain pen cleaning liquid (e.g. Rotring Cleaning Fluid) to give it a problem clean. Research and see if your fountain pen can be dismantled. Dismantle the grip, feed and nib to clean it.
when filling the kuritake 40, do you still remove the converter?
I usually remove the converter. I can wipe the converter easily but if I wipe the grip section I might damage the hair accidentally.
Have you made any videos about how to draw actual pictures with pens?
+NotOrdinaryInGames If you mean something for beginners with no knowledge of drawing, then no. My videos are mostly for people with some basic knowledge of drawing. You can see more videos at czcams.com/play/PLucoL_7WoAgDD3iul6Me6RIruU_UyhKDO.html
Teoh, I have the Sailor ink and it has been anything but waterproof. The moment water touches my black lines it runs. Is there a secret, like the paper or heat?
+Renee Griffin Which Sailor ink. Only the Sailor KiwaGuro is waterproof
Great video! I am about to buy my first pen for drawing, i think it will be a lamy. You said the silver nibs are mostly stiffer, i know that Lamy has black and silver nibs for their Safaris, do you know whats the differences between? I want a pen, which draws soft and not to scratchy! :)
+Rieekee Rey (Rieekee1) The black ones should be similar to the silver ones in terms of performance. It's just that the surface is coated with a colour. The nibs are still steel. Lamy fountain pens are quite smooth.
+Teoh Yi Chie That's what i thought, thanks for the answer! I think i get the silver nib :)
How about winsor and newton's drawing ink? Can that be used with fountain pen?
+Misshi Koh Unless the ink specifically mention that it can be used in fountain pens, it's best not to use them with fountain pens.
+Teoh Yi Chie Ic, thanks for the tips: )
Which one do you think is better, noodlers or Platinum carbon ink for fountain pens? Will this work with any fountain pens or there are specific tountain pens made for waterproof inks? in other words, are there specific nib/feed to use with waterproof inks?
Platinum carbon performance is more consistent. Noodlers ink sometimes is not waterproof enough on certain paper.
@@teohyc thank you!
very good video. what Nipp do you recommend? I want a Nipp that is hipp.
+XwhiteHat What fountain pen you like is quite subjective.
I suggest you start with the Lamy Safari fountain pen first since it's more affordable. It has a stiff nib.
After you find that you like it, you can explore other types of fountain pens, such as those with fude nib, flexible nib, wide nib.
There's too many for me to list in this comments. Check out my reviews at www.parkablogs.com/tags/fountain-pen-reviews
Teoh Yi Chie I see. thanky you very much!
Helpful tutorials.. Do you buy your fountain pens on line? what is the reliable online shop do you usually buy from? Thanks.
I buy from Amazon and eBay mostly. On eBay, just make sure the seller has good reputation.
+Teoh Yi Chie Have you ever tried Jetpens.com? They have a good selection of fountain and brush pens available.
What is your favorite or best fountain pen and nib? Thank you.
For beginners I recommend Lamy Safari. My favourite currently is the Pelikan M200 with Fine nib. www.parkablogs.com/picture/review-pelikan-m200-fountain-pen
Do you have a tutorial on dip pens?
I don't have any yet
Do you have any recommendations for left-handers?
I’m not sure what type of attributes in a pen a left handed would want. Quick drying? Body design? For quick dry ink, one can get SketchINK
Thank you so much or the video, it is really helpful. I was trying ink drawing. I can use dip pen with Indian ink, but ink did not come out in my fountain pen. Now I see why.
+Nguyen Mai Indian Ink in fountain pens will clog the pens. If you want waterproof ink, try Noodlers Bulletproof Black, Platinum Carbon Ink or Sailor KiwaGuro.
Thank you for your advices. I wanna ask something else. Will those waterproof ink work well on anykind of papers? like can I use them on journey paper? I used to try many ink but it absorbed ink too much that go through the next pages. Do you have any advices for using a brand new fountain pen? I mean ink filling for the first time.
How well ink works depends more on the paper. Lousy paper will cause ink to feather. I've not used journey paper before so I would not know.
If the paper is too thin, the ink may go through.
For brand new fountain pens, just flush some water through the feed with your converter first. Then you can fill it up with ink. Nothing too complicated. Some pens have ink flow problems because they have to be washed first. But usually it's quite a rare problem.
Thank you so much
Informative video, however, it would have been great if you had included some higher end pens too for people who're already familiar with FPs :)
+WAT I'll include some in the future.
Have you tried the TWSBI mini and if you have...your thoughts? Thank you sir!
+Jason Mullins I've a Twsbi 530. Nice thing about them is their transparent body. The nib is normal like other pens.
Thanks...wow you get back to a response fast. Thanks.
+Jason Mullins lol. It's very easy to reply with the CZcams phone app.
What size of nib do you recommend when buying a Lamy safara? Medium or rather a fine one?
+Photodries That's a personal preference. I would go with the Medium as I like thicker lines.
thanks!
Hi Teoh! Any idea if Artfriend or Popular sell affordable fountain pens here in Singapore? Would love to try one for sketches. Thank you in regards!
Popular might sell. There's also this shop called Tokyu Hands that sells some fountain pens too. They have the Platinum brand, and Pilot Kakuno. Lamy Safari fountain pen is also quite common. Anyway, there's this shop at Bras Basah Complex level 1 called Fook Hing that sells lots of pens, perhaps they sell entry level pens too. Lastly, check out eBay.
Will definitely check out those shops! Thank you!
Ben Brian Fernandez go to Times! They are much more specialised in reading and writing than Popular. Lamy has stands here and there... I think there is one at the basement of Raffles City Shopping Centre.
PositivelyNice wow thank you!
Do you know what pen Mattias Adolfsson use?
Pilot Namiki with fine nib
what is the one that has no ink in called?
The one with a music nib? It is a Sailor, most likely a 1911
I do have a question about the thicknes/grip of a fountainpen I do need one who is thick like de twsbi Is de Namiki Falcon Thick kr the Pelikan M 200? Txs for all you're intteresting video's;o)
Grip size is personal preference. Most fountain pens have bodies slightly thicker than disposable pens.
@@teohyc is the size of the grip for the fingers not indicated,
or is the brand related Teoh?
@@zonnewende2022 Some brands are know to have thicker grips. If you want smaller grips, Pelikan fountain pens are good
@@teohyc No I want to have thicker grips.
why get a converter for the preppy when it's cheap as shit to turn the pen into an ink-dropper pen
I wonder what the (demonstrator) pen at czcams.com/video/dIHbu9jjiHc/video.html is. If anyone has any ideas, please let me know. Thanks.
+William Shakour That's Twsbi 530 which I think has been discontinued. The new one is Twsbi 580
www.parkablogs.com/picture/review-twsbi-diamond-530-fountain-pen
Nice one! Thanks for the quick response. I just ordered one of those :)
Is india ink also okay? I have chinese ink but it's sticking to my dip pens so I clean it off a lot. I won't use chinese ink in a fountain pen, it would ruin it probably
India ink should NOT be used inside fountain pens.
@@teohyc so cool you answered on an old video. The inks you were talking about is not available in stores in my country. There is one I do know and it's called 'Herbin' this one works with fountain pens
@@alexiadance123 Some waterproof inks you can use in fountain pens are SketchINK, De Atramentis Archive, Platinum Carbon, De Atramentis Document, Sailor KiwaGuro, Noodlers' Bulletproof
@@teohyc and the not- waterproof brands? 🙃
@@alexiadance123 Most fountain pen inks are non waterproof. If nothing is mentioned about waterproof, it's not waterproof.
Can you update this for 2019?
These pens don’t change much so my recommendations are still the same.
i would send you a picture of the jar, but dont know how in a You Tube response. I can't read Japanese and the only English words are "black ink 50ml Made in Japan." The Japanese characters look like the ones in your video.
Really cool video but one thing that bothers me is that , you said that you can't use indian ink with fountain pens and I have Been using fountain pen with a Indian ink and I don't see any fault in my pen .
Check your ink bottle. Is there crusty ink particles around the bottle opening? If so it is risky to use that ink in fountain pens. Some Indian inks are also quite thick and does not flow easily.
If you don't use the pen often, the pigments will sink and gather and that may clog the pen somewhere
I hated lamy safari. Just get a pilot kakuno rather than a safari. The smallest safari nib is even larger than pilot's medium. and it's too wet. a hell to draw hair with.
You are a man serious about his pens i just pried those on amazon 100-150 lol
And apparently seriously quick about responses :) love your art style. Tried picking up some urban sketching myself recently. Trying to get looser with my lines.
It's very easy to read comments on the phone using the CZcams Studio app. \ (•◡•) /
me try’s to use fountain pen: why is it not coming out paper rips😱
My problem iz spreading ink on paper😢
Could be the ink or could be the paper. You got to find the right ink or paper
in india good fountain pen could be bought for less than half a dollar and i remember during our school days they were much cheaper. a good handwriting is a matter of practice and has nothing to do how costly ur pen is.
m-murali Murali
Simple things of yesterday (unfortunately I must say), becomes always expensive today, because of snob morons who want to make "statement" of how superior are they.
I remember also many simple things from my youth and my grandmothers everyday life, that now cost a fortune to have.
Guardian Observer why don’t you amuse us with some examples of such simple things that became expensive just because someone else was able to afford more expensive variants ?
Its about art, about drawing not necessarily only writing. If you want to draw it really does matter which pen you use
Nice video, I particularly like that you mention that gold on its own is not suitable for a pen nib. What we call gold nib is always a gold alloy.
I think there is minor inaccuracy in your video. You describe music nib as a stub. What makes music nib are two slits instead of one.
I might afford 6.99 cents lolol
11:25 triggered
2253 guns?
Actually is pretty difficult for me to find a good fountain pen in my city.
I'll ToKe Da BlAcK eNd NIPs pleez
is it really necessary to put an introduction part about what a fountain pen is for people looking for as specific as "how to select a fountain pen for drawing"?
Use a feather. If it was good enough for Leonardo it's good enough for you. And it doesn't cost anything!
Amazon users say Platinum Carbon Ink is NOT waterproof.
+NotOrdinaryInGames It's waterproof. Maybe it depends on paper. Mine is waterproof though. See this review www.ninajohansson.se/2012/01/about-ink-and-a-thank-you/
+Teoh Yi Chie I guess those people did not know what they were talking about.
When using it, some ink will come off... still leaving the line in the page, but also mixing slightly with the watercolor. This is the same as noodlers eel black. Actually, every fountain pen ink I've tried that claims to be waterproof does this. I've settled on using deartrament document black. The only ink I've tried that was Truly 100% waterproof was a dip pen ink... not safe for fountain pens.
So much information...And so much misleading information. For instance, you keep saying things such as, "You cannot switch different brands of converters". This is not entirely true. Some manufacturers, Pilot, Platinum, Lamy for example, require the use of proprietary converters: One cannot use a Platinum converter in a Lamy pen. However, there also is such a thing as a standard international size cartridge for which one can freely substitute standard international size converters. Faber-Castell, Kaweco, Jinhao, Acme, and lots of other manufacturers offer pens that accept standard international cartridges/converters, which the user, for the most part (there are some exceptions such as minor size variations leading to a slightly loose fit on converters that should otherwise work, necessitating purchase of same-brand converters), can freely mix and match.
Someone already corrected you on the so-called 'music nib' so i won't go there. However, in the sixteen minutes of the video I forced myself to watch, you made plenty of other errors. Errors which might lead fountain pen newbies astray. I shudder to think what you might advise in your 'maintenance' section!
As with a vast number of CZcams videos, you appear to be an enthusiast without much real, helpful information to offer on the subject of your enthusiasm. I'd love to advise every such video uploader to take down their videos until such a time as they have acquired the requisite knowledge of their subject to make their videos useful and informative instead of misleading but I figure there isn't enough time in the Universe to do so.
BTW, a few commentators mocked you for your pronunciation of 'nib' and you answered them with straight answers. I can't tell whether this indicates a thick skin on your part or a thick...
Good luck!
J Kafka, it must be a wonderful felling to know everything as you do .
Stfu