Rice v. Connolly (1966) is an English legal precedent holding that there is no strict, general legal duty to assist a police officer prior to any possible arrest or caution, with even basic police enquiries nor to accompany the officer to a requested location. This was also confirmed in the case of Neale v DPP )2021)
No it's not. You haven't got to show your details to a member of the public. The only people that can ask to see them are the police, the SIA or the Council.
@@antonyrawling2933 according to SIA rules it must be on display, and i believe it's an offence not to. and anyone can ask, how else will they have any authority? if you don't identify yourself you're a member of the public, if you give directives you have to ID yourself.
Assault? Isn’t it only assault if it’s an auditor against someone else. When it’s against an auditor it’s called reasonable force. One law for them and another for us. The copper is like a slim version of Eddie Hall. Just as aggressive though. The old guy thought he was tough, with his yellow hi-vis on. Another person with a bit of authority who likes to abuse his power.
The 2 women in the police station started and instigated the whole thing with their illegal and hysterical reaction to the camera. The copper, nice as he was, should have given them a bloody good slapping and educated them as to the Law
If a police officer says “is there anything I can reasonably do or say to make you comply with my request” is a signal they are about to go hands on…. It’s a prompt for other police officers to be ready, given there is only one police officer I am not sure it applies here.
it depends on circumstance but there is no need to resist, if you do they just use it against, like today, say you object but won't resist cos if it goes to court, well, it's them that's in the wrong.
That’s a really interesting bodycam that cop has. Thats the first one I’ve seen which has a screen showing what’s being recorded for all to see. I guess that also means that the officer can also interact with the saved footage, rewind, rewatch, edit, delete, etc.. where as without a screen they have to plug it in or give it to superior etc to view the footage.. 🤔
i've seen that type more than once, usually it's the circular one with three leaves around the lens, but i have seen ones that have the screen. and i don't recall him declaring it was turned on "at the first opportunity"
"Don't touch me, get ur hands off me" - "Use the terrorism act, I'll see you in court" - "Get ur hands off me" (Awesome control of the situation by NNY) - Big up Marti for calming the interaction down at this point. "'I've got marks on me" (love it, highlighting the abusive action) Fair play to the officer, he had a craic, he was calm and (dare I say it..slightly tender) :P He gave hugs and defused the situation , we have a decent officer here, for a change. Marti is an encyclopaedia when it comes to "rights" NNY was awesome in getting the content. HUGE respect @Marti + @NNY
@@jackiesmith4153 An auditor is an authorised person that reviews and verifies the accuracy of financial records and ensures that companies comply with tax norms. Their primary objective is to protect businesses from fraud, highlight any discrepancies in accounting methods, among other things THESE IDIOTS WERE NOT AUTHORISED THEY ARE NOT AUDITORS
The pair of them were told to leave, they refused so reasonable force is allowed to remove people from a council building, which the police station is, the public don't own it, the council do.
@@billh7374 lol. and police swear an oath to uphold the law, and this officer watched as NNY is man handles, so stick your opinion. and an auditor isn't solely concerned with book-keeping, get an education.
Slowly working my way through the older videos on this channel, a few videos a day, and I've just realised that this cop is actually heavyweight boxer *Alen "The Savage" Babic* just putting on an accent.
You need to get a pen camera, to protect you from the seizure of your main camera. You also need to make a subject access request for the PC's body camera video
The copper seemed quite good but what's going on with the beard and arms covered in tattoos, I think it fair to say that in the days of proper policing this copper wouldn't have a job.
Must admit that when I first saw that officer approaching thought he was going to eat you alive ! Never go by appearances!!….First class officer who handled the situation superbly.
@@chrispollard6568 Because the instructions were unlawful! The Cop and the useless tub of lard didn't know the law on public photography, implied right of access, the cop didn't prevent lard butt from assaulting the cameraman.
@@chrispollard6568 Crap! They don't film in areas where they are not allowed to, if the correct sign is not placed they can enter. Learn the law which doesn't care about your feelings! The cop violated s26 PACE as well, go look u what that says.
@@chrispollard6568 Jerk! The US Constitution doesn't need re writing, it just needs for morons like you to learn about your rights. Bet you think most of the people cops have killed deserved.
Security cannot eject you from a public place for filming. And that cop does not only looks like a gangmember, he also behaves like one, and he was wrong assaulting you. And get this security guard fired, HAS to display his badge at all times.
Its absolutely heinous the offences these Police and security Officers commit against innocent auditors who are after all only flexing or upholding their God given rights to be awkward. I bet there will be censure or severe fine for Wayne for committing this act of gross misconduct whilst in office. Terrible acts on these totally innocent members of the public.
Top marks to the police constable. He remained calm throughout the encounter and diffused the situation in a professional manner. Police of this quality are few ard far between. Clearly a credit to the force.
I disagree, his attitude was calm and he was respectful but he didn’t know the law, that instantly takes away loses him the credibility of being an asset to the police force.
Grounds for use of force unlawful by police. Unlawful eviction, thankfully limited physical injury in police assault, but mental damage costs.To be Abused thrice. Police staff, security, and evicting officer.
it's a public building how can you be forcefully removed from a public building by abusing the terrorism act & breach of the peace this is outragous. Security job is observe & report I thought how can they have power to go hands on
100% they have the power. He did not comply with the terms and conditions of the building. If you go to some nightclubs wearing trainers they wont let you in...they can physically stop you. They can also physically eject anyone from the premises using reasonable force.
I don't recognise anyone wearing a pirate badge, that shit stain with the thin blue skid mark through it has to be removed, then we discuss your presumed authority! Officers take note!
Fair play to PC Brice, example to other officers how to deal with the public and deescalate a situation. Security and police staff behind the counter a totally different story. Good vid.
"FAIR play"??? pushing into you is assault. And then to thank him for his courtesy and calm voice!!! This auditor should have marched straight back into the building. Disappointing. NNY better improve, or give up.
Therefore, the general public does not have a legal right to receive the name or SIA number of a security staff. The purpose of displaying the SIA licence is not as an identifier, but as proof that the wearer has the right and the training to do that job.
That cop has no idea what breach of the peace is. Breach of the peace is not an offence. Breach of the peace is "“an act done or threatened to be done which either actually harms a person, or in his presence, his property, or is likely to cause such harm being done.” You can be arrested for breach of the peace but must be de-arrested once the breach has passed.
"You ve ruined me " PMSL. Brilliant 5 ☆ policeman / human. The waiting at automatic doors...with Marti laughing in reflection....was equal to monty python sketch...
The copper dealt with the situation really well. Ten out of 10 for a disciplined, calm, respectful way of dealing with a very testing situation. Came across extremely well and a brilliant example of the sort of copper anyone would have respect for.
I've seen others when hanging out filming in public buildings where the security or police trespass people when they refuse to leave.. All confusing around trespass laws.
What would have helped the police officer would be if the security guard said , here is my SIA, but instead he escalated it despite the very reasonable Viking police officer.
Technically the security was right in that tou don't give your details to a member rof the public. The only people that can ask to view it are the Council, the SIA and the police. That'll be why the Bald security guard gave his deets to the copper. Because he HAD too😂
The auditor has balls made of steel and the knowledge and expertise you need to do his job well. Respect to these guys!
Rice v. Connolly (1966) is an English legal precedent holding that there is no strict, general legal duty to assist a police officer prior to any possible arrest or caution, with even basic police enquiries nor to accompany the officer to a requested location.
This was also confirmed in the case of Neale v DPP )2021)
The police station is in the middle of DWP for good reason, they need protection from all the people they keep snatching money off!
Security guy is a Muppet and refusing to give you his details at your request is breaking the rules and he should be reported.
No it's not. You haven't got to show your details to a member of the public. The only people that can ask to see them are the police, the SIA or the Council.
@@antonyrawling2933 according to SIA rules it must be on display, and i believe it's an offence not to. and anyone can ask, how else will they have any authority? if you don't identify yourself you're a member of the public, if you give directives you have to ID yourself.
Assault? Isn’t it only assault if it’s an auditor against someone else. When it’s against an auditor it’s called reasonable force. One law for them and another for us. The copper is like a slim version of Eddie Hall. Just as aggressive though. The old guy thought he was tough, with his yellow hi-vis on. Another person with a bit of authority who likes to abuse his power.
The 2 women in the police station started and instigated the whole thing with their illegal and hysterical reaction to the camera. The copper, nice as he was, should have given them a bloody good slapping and educated them as to the Law
I have never in my life see anyone consume liquid doughnuts!
How can a private security operative eject a member of the public from a police station enquiry desk? The world has gone mad.
If a police officer says “is there anything I can reasonably do or say to make you comply with my request” is a signal they are about to go hands on…. It’s a prompt for other police officers to be ready, given there is only one police officer I am not sure it applies here.
it depends on circumstance but there is no need to resist, if you do they just use it against, like today, say you object but won't resist cos if it goes to court, well, it's them that's in the wrong.
That copper was quality. Calm, reassuring and fair, exactly what’s needed when shit is hitting the fan. Top job officer🤘
Unlike mr Couzins...
Hi. He wasn't at all. he misused the breach of the peace laws horribly.
@@ysgol3 he was great.
@@NH-bz9jv We'll agree to differ then, something that copper didn't allow.
@@ysgol3 yep, we will.
That’s a really interesting bodycam that cop has. Thats the first one I’ve seen which has a screen showing what’s being recorded for all to see. I guess that also means that the officer can also interact with the saved footage, rewind, rewatch, edit, delete, etc.. where as without a screen they have to plug it in or give it to superior etc to view the footage.. 🤔
Policing standards, kapoot!
i've seen that type more than once, usually it's the circular one with three leaves around the lens, but i have seen ones that have the screen. and i don't recall him declaring it was turned on "at the first opportunity"
another example of a corporate policy enforcement officer helping another corporate entity.
Security guard should be stopped, removed & possibly arrested. Yeti had it all wrong. Smfh
Breach of the peace requires actual harm or the threat of harm..
How patronising could that police officer get 😭
He better be a biker with a beard like that
The agent working for the council refused to identify
"Don't touch me, get ur hands off me" - "Use the terrorism act, I'll see you in court" - "Get ur hands off me" (Awesome control of the situation by NNY) - Big up Marti for calming the interaction down at this point. "'I've got marks on me" (love it, highlighting the abusive action) Fair play to the officer, he had a craic, he was calm and (dare I say it..slightly tender) :P He gave hugs and defused the situation , we have a decent officer here, for a change. Marti is an encyclopaedia when it comes to "rights" NNY was awesome in getting the content. HUGE respect @Marti + @NNY
Respect to both great auditors, nice one for standing your ground - well done 👍👍👍
@@jackiesmith4153 An auditor is an authorised person that reviews and verifies the accuracy of financial records and ensures that companies comply with tax norms. Their primary objective is to protect businesses from fraud, highlight any discrepancies in accounting methods, among other things THESE IDIOTS WERE NOT AUTHORISED THEY ARE NOT AUDITORS
@@billh7374 authorised by who, other human beings? They could authorise themselves, it means nothing.
The pair of them were told to leave, they refused so reasonable force is allowed to remove people from a council building, which the police station is, the public don't own it, the council do.
@@billh7374 lol. and police swear an oath to uphold the law, and this officer watched as NNY is man handles, so stick your opinion. and an auditor isn't solely concerned with book-keeping, get an education.
Slowly working my way through the older videos on this channel, a few videos a day, and I've just realised that this cop is actually heavyweight boxer *Alen "The Savage" Babic* just putting on an accent.
You need to get a pen camera, to protect you from the seizure of your main camera. You also need to make a subject access request for the PC's body camera video
he ought to have declared he was recording a lot earlier too. i wonder, can body worn be used in evidence if he neglects to declare it's on?
@@HarryNicNicholas It is policy not law.
The bearded cop is the nicest cop I've seen
Boothliker
@@christy140 What's wrong with liking booths 🙄
Is that Brian Blessed dressed as a copper?? His voice sounds alot more quieter than usual! 😉
Contact SIA by email, send a picture of him, location, time, they must have his details.
The copper seemed quite good but what's going on with the beard and arms covered in tattoos, I think it fair to say that in the days of proper policing this copper wouldn't have a job.
Well said.
@@whitemonkey7932 years ago you needed permission to have a beard and tattoos were not allowed in areas that were visible.
And the monochrome union jack.
@@whitemonkey7932 wow. My mum's got better patter than you and she's senile. That probably sounded a lot more witty in your head...
he looks a disgrace to be fair and im tattooed[ex army[looks a fooking mess whats going on in this daft country
Must admit that when I first saw that officer approaching thought he was going to eat you alive !
Never go by appearances!!….First class officer who handled the situation superbly.
Good calm officer, didn't follow the law and hold the security guard accountable for his actions but he was level headed and civil.
Nice audit NNY 👍
@@chrispollard6568 Because the instructions were unlawful! The Cop and the useless tub of lard didn't know the law on public photography, implied right of access, the cop didn't prevent lard butt from assaulting the cameraman.
@@chrispollard6568 Crap! They don't film in areas where they are not allowed to, if the correct sign is not placed they can enter. Learn the law which doesn't care about your feelings!
The cop violated s26 PACE as well, go look u what that says.
@@chrispollard6568 Jerk! The US Constitution doesn't need re writing, it just needs for morons like you to learn about your rights. Bet you think most of the people cops have killed deserved.
@@chrispollard6568 Whataboutery and nothing to do with this topic. Try to keep focus
we need wayne couzins on this case..oh hang on hes getting imperial leather soap for the next 50 years
Liquid soap
"You've just instigated that assault on yourself."
Oof.
Shouting doesn’t cut it for breach of the peace, established case law makes it clear that there has to be potential violence involved
Theyll only learn when they get bombarded by phonecalls
That Cop was bang on great guy well done
A bang on guy?....apart from the beard, tats and the punisher lanyard!
He punished someone for being assaulted...
The Constable looks like he should have been an extra in Sons of Anarchy...
Security cannot eject you from a public place for filming. And that cop does not only looks like a gangmember, he also behaves like one, and he was wrong assaulting you. And get this security guard fired, HAS to display his badge at all times.
Its absolutely heinous the offences these Police and security Officers commit against innocent auditors who are after all only flexing or upholding their God given rights to be awkward.
I bet there will be censure or severe fine for Wayne for committing this act of gross misconduct whilst in office.
Terrible acts on these totally innocent members of the public.
Yes They can if filming is not allowed...simple as that
@@chilledmax7618 Hahahahaha, filming is always allowed in public.
He’s missing his CLINT tattoo , make sure the L and I are close together
C LI N T
Please do the same thing at the SAS HQ in Birmingham, West Midlands
there isnt anyone there they are all in the Ukraine
Best line:- "..C'mon give us a cuddle.." roflmao =D
Easy bro..... love the way you handled that💯🤣🤣🤣🤣
she fell off the ugly branch
Top marks to the police constable. He remained calm throughout the encounter and diffused the situation in a professional manner. Police of this quality are few ard far between. Clearly a credit to the force.
Only because he knew he would be on social media.
Never seen Kerry king of Slayer acting as a police officer 😳
Corruption is a crime and has to be dealt with swift and bold,. 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Total respect to that copper, love his ink, what a great asset to the police. Great interaction and class video.
I disagree, his attitude was calm and he was respectful but he didn’t know the law, that instantly takes away loses him the credibility of being an asset to the police force.
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@@TheRocknRollJ Yes, what law did he not know.?
Agree with you Jon, a good police officer
Protect yourself at all times. And the police.
When someone grabs you that breaches the peace here
The officer has had his eye brows waxed .
That cop was slow and the security guard looked like someone pretending to be 14 online.
If the court settlements came out of the individual officers pay check, maybe they would think twice before they do anything
The big cheese from resident evil 4 finally got a job outside the village
Humpty Dumpty got a job in security😆
Grounds for use of force unlawful by police. Unlawful eviction, thankfully limited physical injury in police assault, but mental damage costs.To be Abused thrice. Police staff, security, and evicting officer.
Loving how the police just blank the assault.. then assault.
You make me laugh when you get stern 😂😂
it's a public building how can you be forcefully removed from a public building by abusing the terrorism act & breach of the peace this is outragous. Security job is observe & report I thought how can they have power to go hands on
ITS NOT A PUBLIC BUILDING!!!!
100% they have the power. He did not comply with the terms and conditions of the building. If you go to some nightclubs wearing trainers they wont let you in...they can physically stop you. They can also physically eject anyone from the premises using reasonable force.
@@carolineball8586 really the DWP is not a public building I thought they were my bad
It literally says no recording otherwise you have to leave, he refused so they escorted him off the premises, perfectly legal.
Blagborough stayed quiet.. never known it 😂
If anyone tries to push you out. 2 things protect yourself . Fall over taking the person will you .
A police officer who thinks shouting is a breach of the peace ffs!
Good thing that security fellow didn't push you with his humongous belly..lol.
. Security, cop F up. Another Lawsuit ASP.
Pure genius…👍✊🎥
Pure Cobblers
It's all a big waste of time if it's not followed up and then you become the laughing stock🤔
Why is that officer wearing a blue line gang badge , bring them to account stay safe retired lifeboatmen uk
Rasputin needs to brush up on the law.
The officer was good. I liked him.
What happened RE: complaint against “Wayne” ?
The cop that had his hair on upside down should have ejected that security guard.
I don't recognise anyone wearing a pirate badge, that shit stain with the thin blue skid mark through it has to be removed, then we discuss your presumed authority! Officers take note!
This police officer handled the situation respectfully.. he gets a thumbs up from me 👍
A passive aggressive thug and as dishonest as the day is long - he really enjoyed abusing his power.
u mean the cop wearing the BLUE LINE GANG FLAG?
Really? Were you watching the same video. Give your tongue a day off from boot-licling. Clown.
Ye agree shaz
Borderline breach of using police powers improperly not sure what you are looking at ?
Awesome guys. I have learnt so much from live free and Marti
If i called the police and that embarrassment turned up i would demand for another police man to be sent, one without mental problems and tattoos.
I thought that cop was excellent. Calm and de-escalated the situation. Shame the rest aren't as good as him.
Member of the hells angels that copper
Fair play to PC Brice, example to other officers how to deal with the public and deescalate a situation. Security and police staff behind the counter a totally different story. Good vid.
"FAIR play"??? pushing into you is assault.
And then to thank him for his courtesy and calm voice!!!
This auditor should have marched straight back into the building.
Disappointing. NNY better improve, or give up.
Great audit, showing some balls. Fuck the trolls and keep on making great videos 👍 Marti was quiet for once 😲😂
When I watched the Wizard of Oz as a kid I couldn't understand how anyone could talk without a brain - then I came across these clowns
He’s made of straw asshole…
Run out of boring responses, so recycling them now?
Tyrant PLOD breaking the law and protecting this security thug mate.
That copper needs to stop letting the missus pluck his eye brows .....
This is what you could have won. A bit of bully. He sounds like Jim Bowen
They're father and son - hence piggy's attitude.
Therefore, the general public does not have a legal right to receive the name or SIA number of a security staff. The purpose of displaying the SIA licence is not as an identifier, but as proof that the wearer has the right and the training to do that job.
This policeman was calm and human. Some exceptional qualities and a credit to the police.
Well done mate, you know how to handle the situation 👏 can I I have s play 🤣🤣🤣🤣 good to see marti we you, lmao 🤣
I thought "Giant Haystacks" was dead.
that beard is a major liability if he gets into a scuffle with anyone.. yanking a handful of that would put him down very quickly.
Behave 🤦♀️
He's in the wrong Job...ZZ Top are looking for a new Guitarist...
A good copper.
That cop has no idea what breach of the peace is. Breach of the peace is not an offence. Breach of the peace is "“an act done or threatened to be done which either actually harms a person, or in his presence, his property, or is likely to cause such harm being done.” You can be arrested for breach of the peace but must be de-arrested once the breach has passed.
Great copper very professional
Another officer with tattoos all over him like a thug. With a gang badge
So what was the outcome? We never get to hear what actually happens?
Iv only just found your channel bro after seeing you on other auditor's videos You are ruthless bro Respect!
"You ve ruined me "
PMSL.
Brilliant 5 ☆ policeman / human.
The waiting at automatic doors...with Marti laughing in reflection....was equal to monty python sketch...
Olaff was a decent dude and humoured and fkd you well off, lad😂
The copper dealt with the situation really well. Ten out of 10 for a disciplined, calm, respectful way of dealing with a very testing situation. Came across extremely well and a brilliant example of the sort of copper anyone would have respect for.
WTF don't you realise how wrong that copper was
I've seen others when hanging out filming in public buildings where the security or police trespass people when they refuse to leave..
All confusing around trespass laws.
What would have helped the police officer would be if the security guard said , here is my SIA, but instead he escalated it despite the very reasonable Viking police officer.
Technically the security was right in that tou don't give your details to a member rof the public. The only people that can ask to view it are the Council, the SIA and the police. That'll be why the Bald security guard gave his deets to the copper. Because he HAD too😂
1 year later
I’m calling up to complain about Wayne 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Protect yourself at all times .
Simple assault and battery.
Beardy cop protected the wrong guy.