I QUIT TEACHING MIDDLE SCHOOL Kids cursed out teachers & lied to get them fired with no consequences
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- čas přidán 20. 06. 2024
- Middle school students have always been difficult to teach, but when there are no consequences for bad behavior, it is a nightmare for teachers! Sometimes students even start to bully the teacher! Listen to the story of a teacher@TeacherKellyTag who quit teaching middle school!
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I teach elementary school and the behaviors aren't any better. 3rd grade is the new middle school. They cuss, hit each other, say vulgar things they heard from tik tok, and talk about dating. These are 9 year olds. Its a scary world we are living in today.
It's the way the kids are raised at home. Like, why does a 9yrd need a cellphone and a relationship?!
@@annakenny2213 yep I had a student in third grade talking about wanting to date this girl and how hot she was. I told him not in my classroom we don't talk about that here.
@@RP-vy8stWow unbelievable how these kids are, especially in this generation. And I wanted to major in education for my masters degree.
Facts. My ten year old twins told me what the other kids say and it is horrific!!! We raise them Christian and we don’t allow any of that stuff in our household. Met a family where there kids get permission to cuss when they hit 5th grade. Cussed my 4th graders out on the bus. Tried to reason with the mom. It’s insane. I’m truly disgusted. The other kids at school talk about inappropriate stuff and I can’t stand it. Few good ones here and there. I don’t blame the kids. I blame the parents who are either ignorant or don’t care what there kids watch or allow it. People need to use parental controls on kids devices and monitor it. It’s bad out here guys and my kids go to a really well rated public school. It’s everywhere. Homeschooling might be the near future. God bless all you amazing parents and teachers!!! Much respect!
@@audrey6928you are doing the right thing. In today's world you need to talk to your kids about a lot of adult topics while understanding that the kids are in this crazy world and its not their fault. Staying on top of what you know to be better values and the reasons why matter as well as how you communicate this to your children. It's not just the classmates, there are awful teachers as well. I know of a parent who had a teacher recognize their 14 year old daughter was wearing baggy shirts a lot and assumed the girl might be trans and started giving her literature on it. Thankfully the girl went right home and talked to her mother about it rather than let this teachers propaganda bully her into having serious issues rather than just being a girl who is getting different attention as her body changes.
I got fired for sending a disruptive student to the Principal's office for punching another student in the face.
wow, which school district?
There has to be more to this story....
Hire an attorney
Doesn't surprise me at all. The way these kids walk around they act like they can get away with punching anybody they want. Wait until they punch me. It's not going to end well
@@marilynruggeberg That someone would get fired is ridiculous, even if they didn´t speak to the student in the best way. It should always be on the students to behave, always.
I recommend a mass walkout. You’re not there to be abused when parents don’t do their jobs.
Students are now trying use false allegations to get teachers fired. These kids are really getting evil. The parents need to be held accountable, especially those who willingly create broken homes.
From experience, I do NOT recommend teaching kids if you are male. Frequently you hear we need more male teachers, but it's too dangerous.
Adult education is much safer, either in day school, community college, even in prison. Believe me, I know. One false accusation can destroy your career.
Happened to me - but reprimanded and not fired.
Yes but always remember teachers to blindly vote blue no matter who and for the people who actually want to discipline or remove these problem children. Ya know, cause feelings over everything.
@@saucyrossy3698 well this teachers has voted for republicans and was a registered Republican in New York. Are you familiar with Eli Broad, David Coleman, ALEC Foundation or project 2025? Why would the trees 🌲 in the forest 🌳 vote for the axe- because it too is made of wood?’
Funding schools should be a conservative priority as it would keep people out of jails and off public welfare. Supposedly conservatives and Republicans and libertarians are pro business? You would think that they would also want some sort of a national healthcare so that businesses could do what they do best and that is their service or product and not have to worry about giving their employees health insurance.
My overall point is that you give me a politician from another party than the Democrats who are pro children and poor Education which means pro democracy and pro republic I will vote for them. Please list them here and if they have a record of supporting schools and children ., A.k.a. healthcare, then I will vote for them and even work for their campaign. As it is now most states even the Democrat politicians pass laws that adversely and negatively affect children and schools. The Alec foundation invited mainly Republican politicians, but there are a few Democrats to a conference where they would give talks and list the bills that they would like to see past they would wine and dine those politicians and miraculously, a few those laws were proposed by these politicians. Many of those laws were for things such as common core and supporting, toxic testing, and only two educational companies left to become proprietary and make money on curriculum that was not scientifically chosen. I could go on, but I digress..
CELLPHONES AND INTERNET ACCESS is the elephant in the room.
Being a school custodian is much better than being a school teacher!
I won’t go 100 feet within a public school.
Hell no! I've done it and that's slave labor. No no no no no. Way too physical just do warehouse if you want that type of work out
these kids are psychotic!!! a list?!?!?!?! wow, God bless our teachers. Im so sorry that these administrators have failed and betrayed you. I weep for society. We are already seeing the rapid decay.
There is a big difference between an administrator and a principal.
Seriously! This is something I could only imagine psycho criminals do, but kids (and getting away with it)!!!
TEACHERS NEED TO PRESS CHARGES WHEN ANY VIOLENCE HAPPENS! Get restraining orders and go after the district.
I was assaulted and that was the end of teaching for me.
Some contract prevent you from doing that
Absolutely!
@@SarahR2D2What!
@@BarBlue12 yes. Its crazy
Middle school kids are not the problem. It's parents and administrators not understanding , explaining away, or blatantly disregarding what comes with their age and stage of development, like being hyperbolic and lying to escape accountability. When you hold them accountable and have high expectations, we are met with resistance. We are creating a mation of unaccountabiluty with Gen Alpha. Excellent video, Ladies.
Yes, the kids ARE PARTIALLY the problem, they chose to behave like this. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
@protostar5946 We can not hold kids accountable until we hold ourselves accountable. Kids do what they are allowed to do. In the words of Dr. Phil, we teach people how to treat us. When we as a society have high expectations for everybody and hold all stakeholders to the systems in place, everything will change. It starts at the top. As a veteran teacher of almost 30 years, I don't have problems with the students. Rather, it's how adults intervene or not at all and make excuses. Kids will lie, hide, and deny--when it's allowed.
The person who cares the least has the most power in a relationship. I quit teaching because I care less than parents do about their kids behavior. I retired early and I'm qualified both in Math and Special Ed. Good luck, parents and administrators. I care less than you do.
Good for you. 👏Saved yourself a Stroke later on. 💪
So true
Yes, except it’s hard to not care when you remember these are future voters and such 🤦🏻♀️
@@Teal_Seal Unfortunately we don't have a nation anymore either. Teachers can't fix our national voting problems by caring more. Nice try for pumping up more teacher guilt/blame though. The solution is to stop caring so we can communicate on equal footing with the other people who don't care. I don't care.
Why don't school put surveillance cameras in the rooms to monitor abuse from students?
Because admin doesn't care about the teachers
I’m so ready for cameras in the classroom.
I retired from federal employment and became a sub. It is horrible. I won't do Middle School agsin. I think every parent should be REQUIRED to be a sub.The kids DO know how to play games and the system. It is shocking. God Bless All Teachers!
Suspending a student for 10d is a vacation. He should have been expelled. The parents should have wanted him expelled for ASSAULTING A STAFF MEMBER
Kids that assault teachers should be arrested and charged
I'm a substitute, and one "weapon" that I find middle schoolers have been utilizing more often is e-mailing and sending chat messages immediately, during class, to their teacher when I do something they don't like. So, if I get too loud with the class because I need to get their attention, someone will say, "I'm telling the teacher you yelled at us." Or, if I move a student who is being disruptive, that student will say, "I'm telling the teacher you're picking on me, because you moved me, but you didn't move that other student." I even had one student basically give the teacher, who was conducting testing on campus, live updates about how things were going (The teacher told me about it when I met her after class). Really, you have to be real careful. Students can quickly destroy your reputation with just an e-mail.
I had the same experience and yes it sucks…lack of support from administration when they have the law on their side.😢
And that is when you tell their asses I don't have a mother or father at this school. And then you start recording your class. So they can't lie on you. Recording works.
I observed 2 male teachers get fired, because they tried to discipline their students.
I'm a male teacher, and yes, I've been fired (or not have contract renewed) for trying to discipline bad students.
My school uses me as a lunch monitor and security guard despite being hired and certified for a teaching position. I'm 6'4 ex military and ex hospital security, so I get it, but I didn't spend 6 years and more than my house cost to be a glorified security guard. I'm a middle school librarian in a large urban district.
This is horrible
My former backstabbing middle school admin. would first tell me “You’re being too easy on the students.” Then they would tell me, “You’re being too hard on them.” I would tell them, “I have been disciplining my students the same way all year long. I have followed every single school classroom and office protocol when it comes to proper student discipline and classroom management. I am not the one in the wrong here.”
@@munimathbypeterfelton6251 they say so many contradictions
Actually, the students loose when teachers, subs don’t want to teach them and quit, even loose teacher of the year. They aren’t winning, except to learn how to be a bully
There needs to be something done about the false accusations of students on teachers. Students should get expelled if they falsely accuse teachers of things. But we know that would never happen because schools wont even suspend kids for a day!
So true
And kids love suspensions because the parents let them play video games all day long at home
@@kris78787yes!
Kids aren’t expelled anymore bc they’re a cash grab for funds of the school district
i wonder if this makes a good case for cameras in these classrooms. that’s really the only solution i can see right now. could be a good way to hold everyone accountable (students and teachers/other adults in the room).
We need cameras in classrooms, parents need to see their child’s true behavior!
Teaching is now a cesspool of madness. Get out of the madness when you can. You will be better off.
I also taught middle and high school briefly considering a change in career path and it showed me to stay far away from the classroom in this Era. If enough people refuse to teach they would have to change the system. People need to quit teaching Nationwide do anything else! Force change....
this country is too soft. accountability in the form of ACTUAL punishment is gone. we need to teach these kids respect, the internet has altered their perceptions of what acceptable behavior towards another person looks like. i don’t necessarily blame the parents, but idk what some of these parents expected when they exposed their children to the internet/electronics so early in life.
These same parents want to go after the schools or social media CEOs and not their own kids....
I blame the parents! They are their child’s first authority figures!
@autumnharvest9725 Thank you!
It’s frightening that some students at that age are compelled to get teachers fired - that’s a pretty devious thing to do, and it’s a fairly adult concept, one which they obviously don’t fully grasp the ramifications of. It’s incredibly spiteful and vengeful, it’s awful to think of why a student would be thinking that way.
It’s because growing numbers of children are being awarded freedoms online and in life that they haven’t earned and cannot grasp yet. That’s where their sense of entitlement originates and it continues to spiral out of control as long as adults (minus teachers) in their midst enable it at will. When those same children are lead to believe that they can and will get any- and everything they desire simply by snapping their fingers, then whenever they are told ‘no’ in the slightest manner, they take evasive action without hesitation. Many of these children are taught to fight for their rights. But they don’t realize that in order to protest or question authorities, true injustices have to occur. Disagreements based solely on differences of opinion, and being required to do one’s part even if it is not “fun” or easy are never ever cause for objection or drastic action.
Yes, well said
Have you ever read "Lord of the Flies"?
@@sistacoin yes, are you saying the kids are like the ones in the book?
yes, it’s horrifying to think of a child being that conniving! seems to border on a personality disorder imo
Don’t go to your administrator for advice. I made the mistake of asking for help after 2 years in a very difficult middle school and I got written up.
Ridiculous, simply ridiculous
Same, my first year I asked for help for an out of control ese student in my classroom and admin marked me down on my evaluation because I asked for help.
After you get tenure. Write that student up explicitly with names, dates times and location. Put it in the database where you enter grades and take role as a paper trail. Start sending your write ups.on paper and email.
I’ve had principals call the kids “babies”, heard “their frontal lobes aren’t developed “, I was asked by a parent when am I going to accept responsibility about what their child did, gaslighting by students and parents, and a TON of other junk. I’ve taught 2,4,6-12 and generally enjoyed each grade, BUT, it’s getting harder. If we could just get rid of PHONES I think some behaviors would change. It would also help to fail students and require PARENTS to attend mandatory meetings to learn how to help their child. My mother, sister, brother and I are all teachers and have seen some pretty awful things happen. Some teachers and I talked about how kids will be in for a rude awakening after school. Education cares, but after graduation, NO ONE CARES about them like teachers do. I’m at a small school that I really enjoy. I’m looping with my 6th graders to 7th, but I’m taking on 2 classes of 8th graders who haven’t had any discipline in class or structure for their first 2 years. I’m a little worried.
It would appear to be the school administrators whose frontal lobes have failed to develop...
Those principles are ridiculous. They aren’t babies. While is true that the frontal lobe isn’t fully developed until the 20s, it doesn’t mean we can punish bad behavior of kids. Plus not fully understanding the consequences to their action ≠ can’t know wrong from right.
Book: the anxious generation
Of all the grade levels that I taught during my total 22 years of teaching, middle schoolers were the ones who went to extreme lengths to try and get me fired, not give the necessary academic effort, complain constantly about having to follow even the tiniest directions, leave the classroom at leisure without even telling me (I would catch them out of the corner of my eye walking out of the room and then demand they sit back down, only for them to retaliate horribly defiantly verbally), crying wolf and playing the victim with their parents following suit. This of course didn’t account for every middle school student or even class that I taught. But when it did occur, it was UGLY. Deep down, most middle school admin. are scared to death of middle school students, so they don’t bat an eye when middle schoolers pull such shenanigans on their peers or teachers. I remember when I would alert many of my former middle school admin. and colleagues to what some of my former students were pulling, they would often say “Remember, Peter, they’re 12-13 years old.” And I would reply, “Yeah, so? That age factor alone doesn’t excuse them from proper social, moral, academic, disciplinary etiquette.” 🙄
I totally forgot about kids leaving the classroom without permission. There were so many bad things that I couldn’t even mention them all.
Imagine how these kids act at home 🤦🏽♀️
In ancient times these kids would’ve been legal adults. Not saying we should go back, 12-13 year olds aren’t little kids. They’re older kids/teens.
I agree.
the kids have too much power
Yup.
It starts in pre k. At my school they aren't even allowed to put pre k kids in time out. The kids are used to acting like feral animals from a young age. I think a lot of parents use school as a daycare, not a learning institution.
I taught younger grades. It is no better
Exactly! Each grade level has their own challenges and to say any grade level is easier than another is just plain wrong.
@@dianna9283I didn’t mean to say one age was easier than another. Just that the younger grades work better for ME
@dianna9283 yeah I tried just about every type of teaching job and they all are terrible lol
I teach elementary and it is an absolute nightmare.
Thanks so much for having me on your channel!
Kelly, get out now while you can. And when you get a job, get me one too. ;)
@@Augfordpdoggie I’ll see how it goes working in preschool. If that doesn’t work I’ll get out for good. I do have a playlist on my channel called “Alternative Careers for Teachers”
@@TeacherKellyTagAre you teaching preschool next year (2024-2025)?
@@munimathbypeterfelton6251 I am. Even moving to a brand new school
I just want to say as a 37 year old, I cannot even fathom how awful it must be to take on such a crucial career, a career that in my opinion should be held in much higher regard in society, and be treated the way you were from all sides. It’s incredibly disheartening that we seem to be experiencing a new pandemic of people that have no concept of personal responsibility, which is disastrous for their children. The administrators are basically paid puppets, beholden to the whims of those parents and while I’m sure there were great students and parents, it doesn’t make up for the bad ones. Children are smarter than they are represented to be and are capable of behaving, but with no clear incentive to do so (or what they believe is no incentive, like the child whose parents told them their grades don’t matter 🙄) or no consequences, at that age, they’re most likely not going to do it on their own. I wasn’t a perfect student but I respected my teachers and I followed the rules, I wouldn’t dare attempt what is happening nowadays. I think you are a superhero, as are the majority of teachers and it’s a shame that that is not the global consensus. Thank you for all that you do! ❤
""HI I'm Trish, and I am really happy...because I don't teach anymore''';)
This is why I don't want to finish my degree to be a teacher any more. Instead, I'm going into graphic design. I watched my mom get laid off after 33 years of dedicated service as a wonderful music teacher. She won accolades, awards, Teacher of the Year... that is, until a new principal came into the school, and for some reason, did not like my mom, and looked for any reason to get rid of her. He got his wish, but thankfully mom was able to retire early. Just watching her go through that... I don't want to go through that, either. It seems like teachers can no longer retire in peace and in their own choosing; instead, they're laid off because the "school can no longer afford to keep you, but you can come back as a substitute teacher if you want." Yes, that is what the principal told my mom. Takes away her livelihood and has the AUDACITY to tell her to come back as a sub.
I also teach music and I have anxiety everyday thinking about this job. I'm working at a new school this year but already I'm having anxiety and it's only the middle of the summer. I have no idea what kind of kids and administration will be at this new school, and it's making me dread it already (my last school was a nightmare because of student behaviors and no support from admin).
I'm very sorry this happened to your Mother. It's so sad and unfortunate that dedicated service doesn't mean anything anymore. The new principal may have wanted your Mother out because her salary was higher after 33 years of service. He could probably hire a new music teacher fresh out of school for less than what you Mom was making. I would definitely encourage you to do graphic design over teaching. All the best to you.
@@transitionsnc From the long talks we’ve had on car rides going home from work and school, mom used to tell me the political hell that went on in that school. How the PE teacher was jealous and tried to sabotage my mom’s work (but the principal took the PE teacher’s side), how the principal started hiring pretty young women and flirting with them despite being married, how he favored the other new music teacher over my mom (because the new music teacher kissed his rear). The biggest problem was that when my mom disciplined a student for not doing what he was supposed to do. This kid started bruising his arms on purpose and told the office that “the music teacher did it” which resulted in a hellish investigation and two week’s probation. My mom butt heads with that principal often-she’s not the kind of person to let the wrong things slide, and was firm in her convictions, and had a strong, powerful voice. But that principal felt threatened by her and couldn’t wait to get rid of her and was happy to use the “can’t afford you” excuse. That’s her story, and while I worked as a sub that school, I saw firsthand how corrupt it was, and full of nasty teachers with a bad attitude, rife with terribly behaved students. I’m happy to say that my mom is doing great and is happy in her retirement, occasionally offering piano lessons.
@@kris78787 I’m so sorry. On top of that, teachers just aren’t getting paid enough.
@@Avelithe I'm really glad your Mom is doing well now. It's a shame ethical people like your Mom are being forced out. It really does seem to be a "Lord of Flies" type atmosphere in many of these schools. I wish you all the best in your future career.
I resigned from my hs physics position. Because a tenure tracked assistant professor position literally fell on my lap. No brainer, right? Lol
This is terrible. My son was in grade 4 when the teacher reported he was overly loud during lunch and acting unruly. I was mortified, I asked for how long that had been going on? Needless to say that was the end of that behavior, almost 3 years later. I had an intense discussion with my son and the social and eventual emotional effects on people who act unruly amongst others. Thank God I learned about it in time and absolutely not, I will never cuddle my child's misbehavior. When a parent does that, it is their child they are hurting. Sad.
These kids in this generation are so different, especially when these kids have behavioral issues, etc. It’s sad that these teachers are getting fired for disciplining the kids. Also, my friend got fired for disciplining two students.
The anxious generation (book)
I reiterate every start of a school year to my daughter that any bad behavior would result in taking away all privileges until the next progress reports come out. (Which is about 4-5 weeks.) I mean phones, tablets, tv, and playing with friends. I’ve never had a behavior issue with my now 9 yr old.
I think parents need to set the tone with consequences at the very beginning of the school year.
Thanks for being a good parent 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I wish every parent was like you. So many times I would try to contact the parent about their child's awful behavior in class and the parents never even respond.
@@TeacherKellyTag Yes ma’am 🙌🏼 Thank You
@@kris78787 A shame, and I never understood the lack of participation in a child’s education. You as a parent are literally modeling behavior that these kids will grow up to simulate as an adult.. As well as showing them they don’t have to care as a child and as a student. Who does that benefit. How can a child learn skills that will help them become responsible, contributing adults.. and then parents themselves.
@@AngelChristinaaa Thank you I really appreciate your wisdom. So many parents just give into their kids and don't give them real consequences. I have had many students tell me when they get in trouble at home their mom gives them an iPad and sends them to their room. I'm not joking either. I believe it because the kids are extremely entitled and disrespectful to their peers and adults while at school.
There was a 7th grade class in my school district that had 6 teachers. All of them quit and couldn't take it anymore. The TA was the one that kept them in check. They loved her and listened to her...but as soon as she was out of the room it was mayhem. That poor girl would go home crying everyday. Being a TA is suppose to be fun not something you carry home with you.
The gaslighting is insane! 8:20 They deny, deny, deny everything as if you didn't just see it.
Another great video, Trish. I taught for 32 years and in my last year I told one kid if you touch me, I am calling the cops! I don't care what admin says...never touched. We laughed it off! This kid's parent was completely on my side once I emailed about his son's behavior. Amen 🙏.
I have a kind of sensitive question, but the topic kinda got me thinking... do some districts actually perpetuate a toxic teacher environment in hopes that the veteran teachers will leave, so they can then hire newer younger teachers that they can pay less and take advantage of? Especially in the elementary and middle schools where grades don't matter, why would they pay a tenured teacher a high salary when they could bully the teacher into quitting, and replace them with a young teacher that they can pay minimum wage and get the same test results?
That’s part of it. Basically, schools just want teachers who will be nothing but yes people to admin., parents and students. Any teacher who has a mind of their own, knows what they are doing, and/or is not afraid to say ‘no’ or question administrative decision making, immediately gets targeted by the above three parties present in schools. It’s ok to be smart in education. As long as it is “artificial intelligence”, if you get my drift.
This is actually going on right now in the district where I work in Massachusetts. Two 25+ veteran teachers are being treated like absolute trash for no reason other than than questioning policies. They've even told one of them that they're not sure they'll have a desk for her. A freaking desk! The other is being made to teach ESL, which is not at all what she signed up for and is being pushed over to favor someone else who doesn't even have a license in MA. They're both very expensive employees, so I think they're trying to push them out. Even HR has been horrible to one of them saying she has issues with admin all the time. It's sickening!
😮 that’s a deep thought of a question I never thought of
Yes. That’s exactly what happens. I witnessed it and experienced it myself. It’s a vicious cycle.
Ageism is everywhere; so is employee exploitation
As a professional driver, I wouldn’t even drive a school bus for middle schoolers. Public school is trash.
Unruly kids and parents
These kids sound feral
Until you hold parents accountable, behaviors will not change. You can’t pick up your kid. That’s too bad it seems like you need to figure it out. I had to walk one time when I was a kid bc my parents couldn’t pick me up. Parents are 100% the problem and it’s crazy to me that people still blame schools.
I taught seventh grade middle school for 19 years. This is why I quit. So sorry this is happening. Not good for students or the adults. Very unhealthy and stressful.
This is from my experience in a Middle School. I got called into the office and had a serious discussion - basically got blamed for a student withdrawal. You know what happened? I asked her to sit on the chair at her desk... it completely snow balled from that. Student got all fired up, started cussing, stormed out in all dramatics, went and saw the support teacher, started swearing again and yelled about, "see this is the f* sh*t I have to put up with." Student then complained about how cold it was, I suggested she put on a jumper...oh boy! Student phoned her father and he withdrew her over the phone. And it was all my fault, apparently lol. I had TA's came up to me and thanked me because that family had a reputation for being trouble makers and have always done this with the school.
That’s awful!
@@TeacherKellyTag The only justice that has since come from this is that the Deputy who laid those accusations at me has recently been charged with sexual assault of a female staff. There is also a bullying case going to court against him, again against another female teacher. I'm willing to add my experience to that case as I want compensation for the HUGE stress he caused me.
Put on a jumper? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@shanid8925, wondered same. Is this teacher in England?😊
You are not alone. The same happened to me this past year. I'm going back to high school.
High school is a little bit better, but it can be rough also.
I'm a Generalist, 4-8, with a few other certs. I long term substituted for 3 years to get some background and experience and then moved outside the contained classroom. I worked on a conditional cert for a year because I am Veteran but I was done and now work with an aerospace company as an educator. I also work with an outdoor company in education. I'm planning on moving into the college level teaching soon. I saw what was coming back in 2015, when I did my student teaching and a 12 year old threw a chair at a teacher and broke her arm and admin and the district did nothing. The parent did not care, no remorse. In any other setting, that would be a basis to be arrested. Parents are out of control and it's trickled down to their kids and society. I had a parent try to come for me during a parent night, because her daughter cussed me out and I simply sent her to the office and they handled it. She was failing the class but somehow, I became the object of her anger.
You were smart to get out. All the best to you.
Kids are being raised with no sense of right or wrong whatsoever. They are seeing the decay of society and laughing as our culture goes down the skibidi.
Getting raised by the internet will do that 😢
I think a lot of these kids were raised by wolves
"decay of society" is key here. When you look deeper into this - it's not really the kids fault they are simply responding to the expectations and rules around them. I hope the government is in a position to financially support an entire generation as they will not be surviving in the workforce.
The world and the Kidz in it see Trumpf gets no consequences for illegal behavior! So why should they.
Sad but true, society is going down the skibidi indeed.
I am a Substitute Teacher. I actually teach in a Middle School. I love the School and the Staff. They are so supportive of me. I have a few students that actually like me and are sad to leave me for High School.
I have a few rules that I personally follow:
*Be consistent.
*And NEVER let them see you cry.
* I do have some students who treat me badly so they can leave my class. So they don't go to the office.
Also Student Needs typically doesn't call their parents. Since I am a Sub, I don't call parents and I have an understanding with Student Needs that they WILL call the parents. AND I let the Students know that their parents WILL BE CALLED.
It takes awhile each year for the 6th graders to figure out that it isn't a FREE DAY when I am there.
There are definitely some teachers that I won't sub for because their rooms have no discipline. Others that run a tight ship, I love to work for because if a student gets their name written down, the teacher takes care of it when they return.
Glad it’s working out for you. We need some teachers still teaching middle school
I used to sub for middle school, it was fun. But when I was a regular teacher, that's when I had these issues.
I had the same rules as a sub! 😊 Learned them the hard way 😉
I subbed in the 2000s and 2010s, middle school and high school, by myself and with co-teachers (who I got to observe), in two states. I expected more of students than some of the co-teachers.
It got noticeably worse over the years. Cell phones aren’t fully to blame, but did speed things up.
You’re very lucky that your admin has your back. That’s not typical and it makes a world of difference. Many kids have the attitude, “Oh yeah? What are you gonna do about it?” They knew the worst I could do was send them to the office and they weren’t afraid of that.
Just as important, they have your students’ backs bc an orderly classroom is so important. It’s nearly impossible to learn in chaos. It got so bad that became my goal: give the few students who actually care about their education an environment in which they could learn. Didn’t always succeed, but I surely tried!!😂 Your admin knows discipline is important for everyone involved 👍
I felt like I needed to wear a bodycam when I was teaching. I think things are slowly but surely getting to that point.
This was too real
Trish you are so correct about the mental manipulation. You are left feeling like you have no idea what to say to parents to admin with these behaviors
Are you describing my students ? I teach middle school and honestly feel you're ME. I am THAT teacher that tries to be there for the kids and listen to them. This year, my 7th graders struggled severely with the 7th grader teachers and I tried to help the kids since I had rapport with them (taught them back in 6th grade.) The kids are not normal because when I taught them, they all had issues with each other . The bullying and bickering would be non-stop and at the end of the year, I was so drained. So now they move on to 7th grade and all of the sudden, they're all friends ! Which should be good right ? Problem solved ? No! Now they start the drama with "us vs them" mentality. The 7th graders were so nasty and disrespectful with the 7th grade teachers. They would come to my classroom and tell me how they were going to drop out and how they hated teachers, etc... I listened to them but in the end, I sided with the teacher. In the end, I found out they lied to me and I wanted nothing with them. I closed my doors and don't let them in anymore. Now when they see me, they roll their eyes at me and give me nasty looks. Not to mention when they had problems, I was there for them but I can't continue to help someone who doesn't want help themselves. It's crazy because they're kids but they're so toxic. They create drama themselves. They were not victims. They were nasty and rude, even bullied some of the teachers. They also tried to get a teacher fired because they didn't like this teacher. They thrive on drama and if they do not have drama, they will create it themselves. I'm too old for that. They can give me their dirty looks, I'm glad I cut them off.
I'm sorry to hear that. In elementary they do the same thing, especially the 5th graders. So much bickering and fighting over the smallest things. And the constant name calling 😮. I'd be rich if I had a dime for everytime I told them to "please use kind words in my classroom "!
@@kris78787 it's honestly so ridiculous the crap we have to put up with. I understand not liking a person or two, we do not have to like everyone but if you have beef with the entire classroom,then perhaps you're the problem. I would switch their seats and at one point, had the quiet kid tell me "plz don't sit me next to so and so..." When the quiet kid complains, you know it's THEM. We were all kids. I wonder were we like this ? Not from what I remember. This is not normal.
@@truth.is.here23 you're absolutely right, it's not normal. This is the product of kids not being taught basic morals and manners at home, and also kids not being disciplined. I also think parents just don't spend enough time with their kids anymore. Everyone works 2 jobs or the parents are just too tired to spend time with them (or they don't want to). Everyone is also on their phones 24/7 so no one interacts with each other anymore. That coupled with kids coming from broken homes, no fathers present, etc. It's making these kids go feral. All these factors have created this mess. Our society needs a complete overhaul 😢
I can relate. This happen this past year with same years of experience.
Honestly… sometimes I have to go back to this channel and really think and remind myself of why I left the profession. There are some nights where I have anxiety nightmares about leaving the field and not making the same money I used to. Sometimes I feel like I’m a failure for leaving. But then I remind myself that I actually get paid year round, have good benefits, and have accomplished greater things then when I was a teacher. This profession really does mess with your mind like it did with this teacher.
I also have to remind myself that I’m not some evil admin that sold their soul to a school district just to get a big paycheck. Like, I’m sorry for sounding harsh, but we all know this is how it goes.
I worked as a sub-nurse for a local school district a couple of years ago. I subbed at various schools from elementary to high school, and by far the hardest ones I had to deal with were middle schoolers. I have so much respect for teachers, and I hate how they're often depicted as these whiners who only have to work half the year, and when competency test scores are low, all the blame is put on the teachers and none on the administration, parents or even the students themselves.
30 minor children with 1 adult teacher, teachers can’t keep themselves safe let alone other students, and when they call for help it’s hit or miss if someone from the office is going to come. Even the teachers are being bullied, yet I’m supposed to feel comfortable sending my child to that school. No thanks, we’ll keep homeschooling.
It's reached a point where every classroom is like a SPED classroom with BIP kids.
Nobody wants that as their normal. That requires special training and action plans, not plastic affirmations and stickers.
Hi from the UK. The very young ones are okay (years one to 6 here) and the 'oldest' ones (years 9 to 13) are (usually) okay (in their different ways). It's the 'inbetweeners' (years 7 and 8) that are a royal pain in the backside (and damn hard work). The older middle school kids are the absolute worst. Non-teaching support/pastoral staff are also increasingly being used as behavioural support here-senior teachers need to start doing their job and backing-up classroom teachers and not leaving it to support staff.
Yes. I remember how foolish we were in Grades 7 and 8. And this was in the A stream (high achievers). The discipline was (rightly) severe. Highschool less so, as our frontal cortices matured.
Eliminating the dynamic of aspiration and fostering the lack of accountability removes "failure" as a penalty!
A different "future" has to be imagined, or many of us will eventually "pay the hangman" in more ways than one....
I had a student tell me to go ahead and write him up cause he eats up referrals like candy
God, you're so right! No matter how kind you are to them, it's that minute you say no to something logical and basic, they turn against you! I quit teaching too because teachers were not even allowed to say the word rules in the school I taught (UK). Students didn't have rules but expectations there.
I understand expectation as something very subjective. What you may expect from me might be something I can't live up to. Students who dont have any social skills don't know that basic expectations should equal to respecting rules, so they do not abide by any 'expectation' you assign them. They will go through life thinking there are no rules or laws.
I teach adults now, but I have a 24-year-old student (Gen Z) who got fired for punching a workmate. Not to mention he could be done for assault. Hey, positive education, see the effing 'brilliant' results of rules vs expectations!
Well done, positive education (the what-so-called so!)!
I’ve heard of several teachers who went to teaching adults and love it
@@TeacherKellyTag I also prefer adults. I think teaching is a 'messy' job anyway, haha, but I get more peace of mind now.
That's because thekids are used to getting their way all the time!! They can't hear the word "no". Gentle parenting and trying to be your kids' friend all the time has done this to this generation!
They should change the name of the USA to BRATislava, because of how the people behave
Middle School is the hardest to teach, but it can also be a very rich and fulfilling experience.
The VP at the middle school I worked at was never authoritarian but expected Paras to be. He had relationships with the "bad" kids and it made it impossible to get them to listen to anyone. Unless they decided they wanted to listen. Ludicrous.
Yes, this was exactly how my Principal was. The kids did not even mind going to his office.
The way paras are treated is absolutely atrocious. Admin + teachers think they're above Paras. You'll have a kid acting out and the admin will yell at the Para, "You need to handle your student!". They provide Paras w/ no further support,advice or training on how to handle extreme cases. Then they got their nerve to be like, "I know your Jimmy's Para...but you need to be a team player. We're gonna need you to monitor the hallways during testing. We need your full support."
I’m so sorry this has happened to you guys. When I have kids if they ever did something like that to their teacher, I am not letting it fly.
It was difficult for me to spend a year similar to the one described here and having a bully as an administrator. I quit! I made it through the year and did establish good relationships with many kids. It was good to see them off to 9th grade where more accountability awaits them!
I'm a sub it happens in charter school you have kids trying to get teachers fired because it's a game to them. I had decent support but it was scary how kids would rather not do work but get people in trouble.
Not in charter schools too?!
It’s the bullying mindset that many people (admin., parents, students, even some teachers) in schools have! It’s all about attaining, maintaining, and heightening one’s own power and nothing else. Schools enable bullying in all forms in many different ways. When students see that they are always on the winning end because many admin. and parents don’t know what the heck they are doing and would rather make teachers suffer just to make their work lives more interesting, then it’s over.
@@TeacherKellyTag Yes! It's insane how fucked up some kids are.
@@munimathbypeterfelton6251 Damn this hits hard with me. Wow....
All of the behaviors these teachers describe have now bled into higher education. It's sad. We're supposed to have higher standards. You can go to a clinic today and be treated by a medical professional who graduated from college mainly based on cheating, complaining, bullying, ganging up, having parents complain, and lying. I'm talking about adults. They have clearly agreed that anyone who expects intellectual effort from them is the enemy, and they feel entitled to whatever grades they demand.
I used to teach college. Interview me next.
Awesome! You can email me at TeacherTherapyTrish@gmail.com 🤗
Isn't it better?!
Can't wait for this interview when you edit and post it.
The BEST and better qualified teachers are Animal Trainers! Facts. If they can teach 2 ton killer whales, dolphins to flip & jump through hoops, dogs to prance on hind legs while balancing a ball; surely they can condition, train, reward, and possibly teach the two legged animal! Problem/crisis solved!!
The sad thing is the animals listen better than the kids do 😢😅
I experienced many of the things you mentioned. Especially as a sub, kids many want to make you cry and get you fired. I’ve been accuse of calling a student a racial slur. I didn’t say it and the student eventually admitted he lied and then we made friends. Still, the school cancelled the rest of my long-term gig. Abuse every day and no union.
MINIMUM constant audio recording (since 2015) every grade, any type of class. Better 2 hidden cameras with audio.
This is sad to hear. I hope I am able to teach my child not to join in on being rude to teachers. He is 5. If he is, I will pull him out myself. I am sorry our teachers do not feel supported. Students should not have the power they do. It is backwards.
When I taught middle school, things only changed once I started meditating and learning breathing techniques because that was one thing I could control. Before that, my energy was chaotic and anxious. The kids always felt it and took advantage.
Things continued to get better once I learned to stay calm, breathe and stop caring about how much work or homework was accomplished (because the kids were passing no matter what and my admin always asked me to change results on the system to make this happen).
To me, one (of many) of the biggest obstacles is that so many kids in middle school cannot read proficiently. This makes them feel stupid and they would never want their friends to see this, so what's easier? Disrupting the class so no teaching or learning is done, of course.
I hope the teachers out there are taking care of themselves first - don't be gaslit into thinking this is more than just a job. Yes, it's not just a job, but at the same time, it IS just a job and YOU are more important than the job. 💖Sending love and light to all struggling teachers.
The kids today are so troubled--many are. In my city we have had large groups (last night it was 100) of HS and MS kids gathering in a park and causing havoc w unapproved fireworks and destroying property. The police are busy every night. It still.is adult offenders doing crime but THERE IS INCREASING NUMBER.S of YOUNG MS age kids carjacking and robbing people at gunpoint. Last night a 14 yr old stabbed a 73 tr old man for a wallet. We have a bad AG and things are really breaking down. Just like any other public space, schools should be able to expel kids---and let the parents deal with the aftermath. We have obligation to TEACH and give kids an education ....and if someone is repeatedly or seriously disruptive: out they go. No obligation to a kid like that imho.
They can have late busses for sports but not for after school detention. ??
How awful it’s become. My sister retired from teaching in 2020 for this very reason. She taught college students in cosmetology, and they were horrible, she liked teaching and is a professional cosmetologist, but teaching was a different story.
Students would play the teachers against each other and lie, always trying to get one or the other in trouble, causing conflict amongst the staff. She was part time and shared the class with another teacher, at the end of the school year she advised she would not be returning and she never looked back. It’s not worth the stress it causes.
1984 to a T.
I am a parent and was never an employed teacher but did homeschool one child who was struggling for 3 years. I started watching your videos because I found the teacher perspective ver interesting. Both of my kids were on the spectrum so as you can imagine I had sooo many (too many) meetings and was surprised by how “salty” a lot of the teachers were before I even spoke with them. I think now I can see why. They were just burned out and overwhelmed by the supposed “normal” kids and had nothing left for mine. I remember one teacher attacking me in a meeting but I was able to grab her after and explain I was not against her. I wanted the admins to give the support so that she could teach! After that we worked together and she was great. I often suspected that Sped admin would poison teachers before you even met them. The proof is in the pudding as I am friends with many of my kids (now graduated) old teachers but not a single admin!
Direct Result of Feminism...
How so?
@@draculena a lot of broken homes and kids with no fathers
Parents of these kids need to wake up and realize that the kids they are not holding accountable now will "fail to launch" when they are in their 20s and 30s.
Parents need to do right by their kids and find alternatives
To public school . Large groups
Of kids was never a good idea . Parents need to take control
Of their own kids
Why do you think they needed teachers after Christmas?
This is why teachers need the protection of unions. I even get union protection as a sub teacher. Public schools will probably be phased out within the next decade it’s just getting too volatile.
The problem is parents don't want to parent anymore. They want to be friends with their children.
Yup.
It's the iPad generation
Bad parenting is the cause. My two kids were never like this. They were respectful because we taught them to be
I’m a sub for 10 years. Have my m/s credential & MAs in teaching & English. I stay away from 6th & up.
Thanks Trish for another great video! 😊
Mid school is the peak of bad behavior. You have to have great classroom management skills. I would never recommend that for new teacher.
One of the main ways to have classroom control is for the students to know that you care. If they know you care they will stick up for you when others cause problems and act out.
Do fantastic projects that the students look forward to. Lots of hands on involvement for the students. Come up with really interesting things.
Do competitions. Students very competitive. Take advantage of that.
With younger students don't let them have any free time that you don't have controlled.
Do projects that young people these days would enjoy. I have done claymation video classes. I've done CZcams video and movie making projects. We've done classes on solar, wind, and other energy systems. We have even done electric powered Go-Karts.
If you get involved and into what you're doing it will usually draw them into it.
It's definitely not easy to do as much as I do. Its much more than a full time job. But it's the most important job in the world. And in these current times probably the hardest time in the history of teaching.
Good luck to all of you teachers out there. Remember that you have the most important job in the world!
Great segment. Thank you.
I'm curious. Can we do a quick poll? How many of you were teaching in a straight public school (100% state funded) vs public charter, vs private?
I'm with public charter right now but started in straight public.
I teach at a title one public school
I taught in public, private and charter! 🥺🕊
@@TeacherTherapy what was the worst behavior wise?
@kris78787 Oddly enough, the private school kids were the absolute worst! 😳 They were the 7th & 8th graders who lied about me & spread false rumors, secretly petitioned to get me fired, made memes about me on the internet, and constantly stirred up their parents against me by twisting my words. This was all out psychological warfare. 😭 Public school kids were annoying and had occasional outbursts, but these private school kids were borderline evil, in my opinion!
@@TeacherTherapy oh no. I'm sorry!! That's awful. I'm sorry you went through that!! What was wrong with those kids??
You want respect, don’t become a teacher… don’t want to be a punching bag for everyone… don’t be a teacher
I will always blame the parents! Whether it's 'gentle parenting' (this is ruining children!), negligence of discipline and care or abuse. It all starts from home. Children come to school to bully teachers for attention. With the increase in poor parenting, and morality decline in children, teaching will become more and more undesirable to pursue. I predict that face to face teaching will be a dying career path in 10-15 years. More and more teachers will fall unto depression and quit. Less high school graduates will go to college to study teaching. More students will learn through recorded classes, online. There will be little to no human contact between teachers and students. Society will decline in morality even faster. Teacher Trish and Kelly, always remember how valuable you are as teachers! Society has been extremely unfair to you'll but never doubt your value and amazing work ❤❤❤
Hey Mrs. Trish. How is life treating you. Well your friday at least.
Hi Sharina!! Life is good!! 🤗 I hope you are doing well!!
@@TeacherTherapy hey. It's ok. Just seen your response. Walked a few miles this morning. It was refreshing.
maybe have video cameras in class
I record every class and send the videos to their parents through email when the students lie. I have e to keep buying storage but it’s worth it.
LAUSD is talking about banning cellphones. The teachers are going to have a harder time because the students won't give up the phones.
I think every staff member who is assaulted, the news need to be notified. If the press keeps showing the problem, it might actually make people to take care about these. Drown the media with these stories and let them air them.
Who is raising these kids??? Thats the real question
The internet
Social media is raising most of these kids
Everyone is taking about the problem! But no solution!! What up wit that.
Not all parents have any sense!!!!! We can't rely uneducated parents!!!! We need to get kids working on what they want to do in life. Ask them that every day!!!